Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
Whatever

Gering, NE

#907727 May 20, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Both father and son presidents Bush boycotted the tea party GOP convention last year that nominated Mr 47%, LOL
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So?

Still does not make it legal for the IRS to target them.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#907728 May 20, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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100 years of data is just a blip on the history of the Earth.
What made it "hot 4 million years ago"? Coal-fired power plants?
So there will be no measurements we can make that will convince the feeble minded right. Because they are just blips in the history of our plant. They will always find a excuse.
quite white

Murfreesboro, TN

#907729 May 20, 2013
He a pride black main.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#907730 May 20, 2013
Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:
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Oklahoma getting smashed by tornadoes
Yeah I'm watching and speechless as this storm was predicted yet many children were sent along to school.

Maybe school was the safest place for them__school buses sure as fk aren't safe places though.

Hoping for the best result though.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#907731 May 20, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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Will not get 2% of the national news coverage or financial aid windfall of Rainstorm Sandy.
Moore, OK has been hit hard.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#907732 May 20, 2013
HOLTZ-EAKIN: Sharp shoppers scuttle Obamacare

Monday, May 20, 2013

The political travails of the Affordable Care Act — aka Obamacare — continue, as witnessed by the furor surrounding Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius‘ attempts to solicit funds to pay for its implementation. Politics do garner the bulk of the media attention, and the public may think that partisan battles will determine the law’s future. A recent poll sponsored by the American Action Forum, though, shows that the nuts and bolts of consumer decision-making may be its real Achilles heel.

At the heart of Obamacare is the goal of expanded health insurance coverage, and the law as originally passed envisioned coverage for an additional 30 million or so Americans. About one-half of these would purchase their insurance in the so-called “exchanges”— state-based marketplaces where approved coverage will be for sale for individuals and small businesses to purchase. An elaborate system of government subsidies would assist insurance for those making up to $89,000. Of course, as was settled by the Supreme Court decision, those who do not purchase insurance will be subject to a penalty, or extra tax.

Younger Americans are central to this vision of broader insurance coverage. First, they are supposed to participate in insurance coverage, and the mandate and penalty are there to make sure that this comes to fruition. Second, by having the young in the insurance pool with their low health care costs, the insurance offered in the exchanges would be more attractive and affordable to older and sicker Americans. In effect, young Americans are supposed to be both key participants and the piggy bank of the expansion effort.

Unfortunately, health insurance is a product, not a social vision. What we know to be true thanks to ample survey and analytic research is that in 2014, Obamacare will cause insurance premiums to rise sharply for the healthy and young. When it comes to products, Americans aged 18 to 40 act like consumers of all ages everywhere: They have a price point, and when the price gets too high, they get busy making changes.

Evidence of these changes was gathered in late March and early April of this year, when the American Action Forum sponsored the first national poll of this demographic, specifically testing what effects various premium increases would have on consumers’ willingness to purchase coverage. Respondents were those who already purchase insurance and had very specific information regarding their monthly premiums and the penalty they would pay if they failed to continue to buy insurance. They were also provided with the dollars they would have to fork over if premiums rose 10 percent, 20 percent or 30 percent.

The results are illuminating. In this group of current insurance purchasers, only 83 percent will still purchase if premiums rise 10 percent; 65 percent, if premiums rise 20 percent; and only 55 percent, if premiums rise 30 percent. The economic lesson is simple: As premiums rise, eventually, some consumers reach a price point at which they simply stop buying health insurance.

The policy lesson is twofold. First, a law intended to expand coverage will to some extent do exactly the opposite. Second, young Americans are exceedingly rational. If premiums rise 10 percent, 7 percent of those polled would pay the penalty, but then turn around and buy insurance (as the law dictates they must be permitted to do) if they got sick. The fraction rises to 11 percent and 20 percent for the larger premium hikes, respectively.

Choosing the penalty over insurance, or conveniently buying insurance (from the ambulance) just when it is needed, has been caricatured as responses only dreamed up by opponents of Obamacare. Not so, as it turns out. While the respondents are price-conscious consumers, they are not anti-Obamacare.

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Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#907733 May 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
Know who said this, Lily?
"But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred."
Yes, that's right. It was MLK.

MLK is probably rolling over in his grave.
Aunt Bettie Lou do you know who said this?: "“the underlying struggle - between worlds of plenty and worlds of want; between the modern and the ancient; between those who embrace our teeming, colliding, irksome diversity, while still insisting on a set of values that binds us together, and those who would seek, under whatever flag or slogan or sacred text, a certainty and simplification that justifies cruelty toward those not like us...”--[ Barack Obama, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance ] Martin Luther King Jr. must be smiling somewhere above in heaven . He has found another spiritual brother to carry on his work of leading us to the 'promised land', to a country healed from racial strife and united in equality and respect for the dignity of every human being.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#907734 May 20, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Under the federal sales tax, would I charge my export cusomer's sales tax?
Export customers my ass.

But, yes, if sold in the US.

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#907735 May 20, 2013
Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>Fck off! You and your rightwing buddies do it all day long.
"Flack"
Careful, "homo" is getting a little testy.
Peace

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#907736 May 20, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>And don't forget Operation Castaway which never served Republican interests yet did far more damage than did Fast and Furious.
Gun shows are apparently off limits to scandals eh?
So, how many Border Patrol agents did Operation Castaway kill?
Did Operation Castaway give 2000 assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels?
Tell us about Operation Castaway.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#907737 May 20, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Florida the same except liquor
You and Realtime better get your story straight.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#907738 May 20, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Pictures of previous four President doing same.
NOT with a Marine in Dress Blues holding an umbrella...

There is no provision in the Marine Corps uniform regulation guidelines that allows a male Marine to carry an umbrella.

Military you ARE NOT... IDIOT YOU ARE...

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Spring, TX

#907739 May 20, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text> So there will be no measurements we can make that will convince the feeble minded right. Because they are just blips in the history of our plant. They will always find a excuse.
Hey, dummy. You still haven't ansewed a couple of questions.

Where was Obama during the 8-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the Americans in Benghazi while the White House watched it on real-time video feed and orders came from the White House to stand down all assistance to them?

And, who generated the lie that the attack was the result of a demonstration that never happened in reaction to a video that didn't even exist when Al Qaeda planned the attack?

... waiting for an answer.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#907740 May 20, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah I'm watching and speechless as this storm was predicted yet many children were sent along to school.
Maybe school was the safest place for them__school buses sure as fk aren't safe places though.
Hoping for the best result though.
Storms are predicted almost every day.

Life must go on.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#907741 May 20, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text> So there will be no measurements we can make that will convince the feeble minded right. Because they are just blips in the history of our plant. They will always find a excuse.
Ever consider that current temperatures may be way below normal considering the entire history of the Earth?

Or do you think the Earth began when the Bible says?

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#907742 May 20, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Moocher Eed won't tell us why he is so upset about a marine holding an umbrella for Obama yet not when other Presidents did it.
"real dumb"
Get on topix. Show a picture of a marine holding an umbrella for a president. Qut being such a phoney.
Peace
KMA

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#907743 May 20, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Wow, you really fall for those right whiner e-mails.
Obama was talking about expanding the Americorp & expanding the Peace Corp.
You really get dumber everyday. It is no wonder you have no grasp of calculus - not surprising for a pretend engineer,..
Do you ever open you rmouth and not lie?

"We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

That don't sound like Americorp and the Peace Corps. It sounds like he's talking about an armed civilian national security force.
... unless, Obama's plan is to transform Americacorp and the Peace Corps into an armed military assault unit like the Marine Corps.

I'm dying to know why the White House is lying about that speech and removing that quote from their transcripts.
Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#907745 May 20, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah I'm watching and speechless as this storm was predicted yet many children were sent along to school.
Maybe school was the safest place for them__school buses sure as fk aren't safe places though.
Hoping for the best result though.
Me too, this is just awful.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#907746 May 20, 2013
More info about the DOJ targeting Rosen in order to fret out a whistle blower from Politicol.

"It appears the prosecutors' statements about Rosen having potentially committed a crime were aimed at allowing them to proceed through use of a search warrant rather than a grand jury subpoena or other means. Under the Privacy Protection Act of 1980, search warrants are only available to seize journalists' work products under certain circumstances, such as when the journalist himself or herself is suspected of committing certain crimes.

If Rosen were considered simply a bystander, prosecutors might have had to use a subpoena, which would likely have involved notice to Rosen and a chance for him to fight the subpoena in court.

"The whole reason that Congress passed the Privacy Protection Act was because a guy with a gun was going to take your stuff," said University of Minnesota media law professor Jane Kirtley. "It doesnt apply to subpoenas."

The paperwork in the Rosen search warrant may also offer clues about why the Associated Press was told after the fact about their telephone records being searched by the government. The fact that prosecutors cited Rosen's "potential criminal liability" as a reason not to ask him directly for access to the information and to assert that doing so "would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation" raises the possibility that they leveled a similar argument in the AP case, which relates to a leak about a CIA-related counterterrorism operation in Yemen.

It wouldn't be shocking if some of the legal rationale behind the two cases was similar: prosecutor Jonathan Malis, the deputy chief of the National Security unit in the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, is assigned to both matters.

Normally such searches require the approval of the attorney general, pursuant to DOJ guidelines. In the AP case, Deputy Attorney General Jim Cole gave the approval. In the Rosen/Kim case, Holder presumably did."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar...

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#907747 May 20, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text>Aunt Bettie Lou do you know who said this?: "“the underlying struggle - between worlds of plenty and worlds of want; between the modern and the ancient; between those who embrace our teeming, colliding, irksome diversity, while still insisting on a set of values that binds us together, and those who would seek, under whatever flag or slogan or sacred text, a certainty and simplification that justifies cruelty toward those not like us...”--[ Barack Obama, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance ] Martin Luther King Jr. must be smiling somewhere above in heaven . He has found another spiritual brother to carry on his work of leading us to the 'promised land', to a country healed from racial strife and united in equality and respect for the dignity of every human being.
"... justifies cruelty toward those not like us...."
This seems like a description of today's muslims, being dominated by Wahhabism, hating everything else. A clearer case of what psychiatrists call "projection" I've never seen.
If you want to know what a left wingnut is guilty of, just listen to what they accuse others of.

By the way, there's no f**k*ng way Obama wrote that book. It was most likely written by William Ayers. If you read both books Obama supposedly wrote, you can't help but come to the obvious conclusion that two different people wrote them. The first was so amateurish, it's like reading a report in a highschool class. The second was written by an accomplished writer. Personally, I doubt Obama wrote either.

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