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WOW

Bronx, NY

#903567 May 15, 2013
Brainwashing and thought control in the news but far from new Brainwashing and thought control have been in the news a great deal lately. They have been used in the context of the suicide bombers who willingly kill themselves and others for the "good of the cause."

They have also been used in the context of some extreme religious groups by the way they indoctrinate followers to accept a certain set of beliefs that may seem bizarre to the average onlooker.

I became interested in the idea of "brainwashing," and found an excellent book by William Sargant entitled "Battle for the Mind." In this book, Sargant explains clearly that we all are capable of falling victim to alterations in our thinking through specific techniques.

Ivan Pavlov, the famous Russian scientist, is the man credited with helping us understand more about our abilities to implant thoughts and behaviors in others. He did it with remarkable experiments on dogs. He is most famous for training a dog to salivate at the sound of a bell, without seeing or smelling any food. He won the Nobel Peace Prize for this work. His later work is lesser known, but perhaps much more important. He was able to show scientifically that behaviors in animals could be established or erased by creating the appropriate amount of stress for the animal. For example, with the right amount of stress, he could make a dog react aggressively to a caretaker with whom the dog was once extremely loyal. He applied stress to his animals through emotional means and through medical means. Regardless of the method, each animal had a certain level of tolerance to stress. Once that level was surpassed, the animal began to break down, and changes in the animal's behavior could be observed.

Sargant noted that the same observations that Pavlov made in dogs are also applicable to humans. During World War II, soldiers who were subjected to weeks of intense battle were observed as having similar behaviors as the animals in Pavlov's lab. The soldiers were able to tolerate a certain amount of stress, and then once that level was passed, the soldiers began to behave in manners consistent with Pavlov's experiments.

Sargant goes on to explain that emotional reactivity is crucial in thought control and behavior change. When a person becomes emotionally involved, this person enters a state of mind that is wide open for suggestibility. Sargant, a religious man himself, illustrates this with the example of charismatic ministers of all faiths who are skillful at hooking their audience with emotionally-charged messages. Sargant says ministers are more likely "to achieve success if they can first induce some degree of nervous tension or stir up sufficient feelings of anger or anxiety to secure the person's undivided attention and possibly increase his suggestibility."

Sargant is clear that brainwashing and thought control occur in many arenas. Sure it can occur in the religious world, but it also can occur in the political world. For example, a political prisoner is not allowed to sleep or eat much for a lengthy period of time. During this time, he is being intensely confronted with the "evils of democracy." Finally, as the stress grows to an intolerant level, the prisoner becomes willing to denounce democracy, and accept his captors point of view. A dramatic, but genuine thought shift occurs.

After reading Sargant's book, I understand better how a person could be convinced to become a suicide bomber. We presently live in a world full of fear, which was compounded tremendously after 9-11.

As a society, we fear a variety of things. Terrorist and weapons of mass destruction are two obvious examples. Our fear may make us vulnerable to the powers of suggestion by authorities as to how to best ease our anxiety. The difficulty is in discerning what we should be genuinely fearful of, and what fears are being used to push us toward alternative ways of thinking.

Ah, the million dollar question!
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#903568 May 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
So now the Taliban attacked us on 9-11???
The Tol-E-Bon (Obama's brothers) provided a base for the terrorists and were accomplices in the attack.

When PLCB union clerk Dave sells liquor to an obviously intoxicated customer, Dave is responsible for the drunk driving accident that follows.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#903569 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
KIM JONG-UN DEFENDS RIGHT TO OBTAIN JOURNALISTS’ PHONE RECORDS
PYONGYANG (The Borowitz Report)—As controversy swirled around the Department of Justice’s move to obtain journalists’ phone records, the White House picked up a vote of support today from an unexpected source, Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un of North Korea.
“I honestly don’t see what the fuss is all about,” Mr. Kim said in an official statement today.“Of course it’s the government’s right to know what people are doing at all times—and journalists would be right at the top of the list.”
Mr. Kim also offered a vigorous defense of the I.R.S. policy of auditing the tax returns of organizations that oppose the government:“Again, this is something I wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep over, and I know Dad felt the same way.”
In what was an otherwise laudatory statement about the activities of the U.S. government, Mr. Kim offered one small critique:“They could save themselves the work of conducting audits and obtaining phone records if they would just get rid of journalists and anti-government groups in the first place. But, you know, baby steps.”
All in all, news of the I.R.S. audits and phone-records scandals have given the mercurial dictator hope that North Korea and the United States might have warmer relations in the future:“We have a lot more in common than I thought.”
Patrick turning on Obama?

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#903570 May 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
so tell us wise one.....how many times has some GOP nutjob already yelled 'IMPEACH'?
and how has that worked out?
you baited yourself. and your presentation sucked.
Maybe if we talked about impeaching Barack Millhouse Obama, the stupid Democrat might go along??
WOW

Bronx, NY

#903571 May 15, 2013
The big questions buzzing over Boston Bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev have a single answer: It emerged in the 102 tense hours between the twin Boston Marathon bombings Monday, April 15 – which left three dead, 180 injured and a police officer killed at MIT - and Dzohkhar’s capture Friday, April 19 in Watertown.

The conclusion reached by debkafile’s counterterrorism and intelligence sources is that the brothers were double agents, hired by US and Saudi intelligence to penetrate the Wahhabi jihadist networks which, helped by Saudi financial institutions, had spread across the restive Russian Caucasian.

Instead, the two former Chechens betrayed their mission and went secretly over to the radical Islamist networks.

By this tortuous path, the brothers earned the dubious distinction of being the first terrorist operatives to import al Qaeda terror to the United States through a winding route outside the Middle East – the Caucasus.

This broad region encompasses the autonomous or semi-autonomous Muslim republics of Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, North Ossetia and Karachyevo-Cherkesiya, most of which the West has never heard of.

Moscow however keeps these republics on a tight military and intelligence leash, constantly putting down violent resistance by the Wahhabist cells, which draw support from certain Saudi sources and funds from the Riyadh government for building Wahhabist mosques and schools to disseminate the state religion of Saudi Arabia.
The Saudis feared that their convoluted involvement in the Caucasus would come embarrassingly to light when a Saudi student was questioned about his involvement in the bombng attacks while in a Boston hospital with badly burned hands.

They were concerned to enough to send Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saudi al-Faisal to Washington Wednesday, April 17, in the middle of the Boston Marathon bombing crisis, for a private conversation with President Barack Obama and his national security adviser Tom Donilon on how to handle the Saudi angle of the bombing attack.
That day too, official Saudi domestic media launched an extraordinary three-day campaign. National and religious figures stood up and maintained that authentic Saudi Wahhabism does not espouse any form of terrorism or suicide jihadism and the national Saudi religion had nothing to do with the violence in Boston.“No matter what the nationality and religious of the perpetrators, they are terrorists and deviants who represent no one but themselves.”

Prince Saud was on a mission to clear the 30,000 Saudi students in America of suspicion of engaging in terrorism for their country or religion, a taint which still lingers twelve years after 9/11. He was concerned that exposure of the Tsarnaev brothers’ connections with Wahhabist groups in the Caucasus would revive the stigma.

The Tsarnaevs' recruitment by US intelligence as penetration agents against terrorist networks in southern Russia explains some otherwise baffling features of the event:
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#903572 May 15, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Republican history suffers from general ignorance
The DNA of demokratic party is inbred with racism, hate and ignorance... FDR married his cousin...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#903573 May 15, 2013
House Speaker John A. Boehner said Wednesday that it’ll take more than firings to clear up the IRS scandal — it’ll take someone ending up serving jail time.

“My question is, who’s going to jail over this scandal?” the Ohio Republican said at a press conference with Republicans Wednesday morning.
WOW

Bronx, NY

#903574 May 15, 2013
. An elite American college in Cambridge admitted younger brother Dzhokhar and granted him a $2,500 scholarship, without subjecting him to the exceptionally stiff standard conditions of admission. This may be explained by his older brother Tamerlan demanding this privilege for his kid brother in part payment for recruitment.
2. When in 2011, a “foreign government”(Russian intelligence) asked the FBI to screen Tamerlan for suspected ties to Caucasian Wahhabist cells during a period in which they had begun pledging allegiance to al Qaeda, the agency, it was officially revealed, found nothing incriminating against him and let him go after a short interview.
He was not placed under surveillance. Neither was there any attempt to hide the fact that he paid a long visit to Russia last year and on his return began promoting radical Islam on social media.
Yet even after the Boston marathon bombings, when law enforcement agencies, heavily reinforced by federal and state personnel, desperately hunted the perpetrators, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was never mentioned as a possible suspect
3. Friday, four days after the twin explosions at the marathon finishing line, the FBI released footage of Suspect No. 1 in a black hat and Suspect No. 2 in a white hat walking briskly away from the crime scene, and appealed to the public to help the authorities identify the pair.
We now know this was a charade. The authorities knew exactly who they were. Suddenly, during the police pursuit of their getaway car from the MIT campus on Friday, they were fully identified. The brother who was killed in the chase was named Tamerlan, aged 26, and the one who escaped, only to be hunted down Saturday night hiding in a boat, was 19-year old Dzhokhar.
Our intelligence sources say that we may never know more than we do today about the Boston terrorist outrage which shook America – and most strikingly, Washington - this week. We may not have the full story of when and how the Chechen brothers were recruited by US intelligence as penetration agents – any more than we have got to the bottom of tales of other American double agents who turned coat and bit their recruiters.
Here is just a short list of some of the Chechen brothers’ two-faced predecessors:
In the 1980s, an Egyptian called Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed offered his services as a spy to the CIA residence in Cairo. He was hired, even though he was at the time the official interpreter of Ayman al-Zuwahiri, then Osama bin Laden’s senior lieutenant and currently his successor.
He accounted for this by posing as a defector. But then, he turned out to be feeding al Qaeda US military secrets. Later, he was charged with Al Qaeda’s 1998 bombings of US embassies in Nairobi and Dar es-Salaam.
On Dec. 30, 2009, the Jordanian physician Humam Khalil al-Balawi, having gained the trust of US intelligence in Afghanistan as an agent capable of penetrating al Qaeda’s top ranks, detonated a bomb at a prearranged rendezvous in Kost, killing the four top CIA agents in the country.
Then, there was the French Muslim Mohamed Merah. He was recruited by French intelligence to penetrate Islamist terror cells in at least eight countries, including the Caucasus. At the end of last year, he revealed his true spots in deadly attacks on a Jewish school in Toulouse and a group of French military commandoes.
The debate has begun over the interrogation of the captured Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarmayev when he is fit for questioning after surgery for two bullet wounds and loss of blood. The first was inflicted during the police chase in which his brother Tamerlan was killed.
An ordinary suspect would be read his rights (Miranda) and be permitted a lawyer. In his case, the “public safety exemption” option may be invoked, permitting him to be questioned without those rights, provided the interrogation is restricted to immediate public safety concerns..
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#903575 May 15, 2013
Holder Passes the Buck to his Assistant

Attorney General Eric Holder went on the defensive on Tuesday explaining why the Justice Department secretly obtained two months worth of reporters' telephone records in an 'unprecedented' search for a confidential source.

'This was a very serious leak and a very, very serious leak,' Holder said at a press conference explaining the department's actions which have been criticized for going against the constitutional right to a free press.

Holder said that he recused himself from the making the controversial decision to subpoena the phone records of Associated Press journalists, saying that it was made by Deputy Attorney General James Cole.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#903576 May 15, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
For you to be lame? Whatever
the 'FOX is vindicated' bs.

i keep hearing about it, but.....nothing.

Since: May 13

Westerville, OH

#903577 May 15, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text>Napolitano needs all that ammo to keep dopes like you from being able to reload until we get adequate background checks passed
WOW! What Liberals are willing to give up just to pretend they are correct!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#903578 May 15, 2013
CBO: We Don’t Have Time To Score Another Obamacare Repeal Bill

CBO noted in the letter that it found in July 2012 that repealing Obamacare would increase budget deficits by $109 billion over the next decade.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/c...

Since: May 13

Westerville, OH

#903579 May 15, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>Let me add to the erroneous information you were indoctrinated with:

The previous operation used 300 weapons, all fitted with GPS devices, and the federal agents were ordered to track the weapons and seize them before the weapon entered Mexico. Over 90 percent were recovered.

Eric Holder increased that number to 2000, ordered that no GPS be used to track the weapons, ordered the weapons to not be tracked and seized before entering Mexico. None were recovered. That's a ZERO success rate.

In short, Bush was conducting a +90% successful sting operation.
Eric Holder was just running guns for Mexican drug cartels.
... and some poor government worker just doing what he's told to do got scapegoated by Holder.
Actually the extremely successful Bush's program was terminated, finished, canceled, exhausted, closed, when "my Muslim faith" won!!!

Fast and Furious was NOT a continuation if Bush but a totally completely NEW one, invented, created and executed by Liberals whose ALWAYS are wrong.
Lincoln

United States

#903580 May 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
the 'FOX is vindicated' bs.
i keep hearing about it, but.....nothing.
fox mislead Romney campaign
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#903581 May 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
the 'FOX is vindicated' bs.
i keep hearing about it, but.....nothing.
You are a loser sonicfiller. You are the problem with America.. You are an idiot...

Since: May 13

Westerville, OH

#903582 May 15, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah. Right. Eric Holder runs guns for Mexican drug cartels, dufus. Like anyone is going to believe anything he says.
Is DbWriter defending racist, Fast and Furious "we must indoctrinate", Black Panther defender, "my race people" Eric Holder?
WOW

Bronx, NY

#903583 May 15, 2013
The Ground-Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) is a communications system that the military is in the process of constructing as we speak. It operates in the very-low-frequency (VLF) range, with transmissions between 150 and 175 kHz. This range was selected because its signals travel by means of waves that have a tendency to hug the ground rather than by radiating into the atmosphere. This signal drops off sharply with distance - a single GWEN stations transmits in a 360 circle to a distance of 250 to 300 miles. The entire GWEN system consists of approximately 300 such stations spread across the United States, each with a tower 300-500 feet high. The stations are from 200 to 250 miles apart, so that a signal can go from coast to coast from one station to another. When the system is completed around 1993, the entire civilian population of the United States will be exposed to the GWEN Transmissions. Read Appendix 4 and then re-read this section. APPLICATION OF MILITARY FREQUENCY WEAPONRY

According to a 1982 Air Force review of biotechnology, ELF has a number of potential military uses, including "dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control, controlling breaches of security at military installations, and antipersonnel techniques in tactical warfare." The same report states:

"Electromagnetic systems would be used to produce mild to severe physiological disruption or perceptual dis- tortion or disorientation. They are silent, and counter- measures to them may be difficult to develop."

Between 1980 and 1984 I was in England, and I got to see some illustrations of how some of this technology actually works. During this period, there were a lot of protests, sit-ins and demonstrations by Greenpeace and many other groups against the deployment of Cruise missiles, especially at Greenham Common, which was south of where I was located. In 1983 and 1984 there was a very large presence of military police at the base when the Cruise missiles arrived. Around mid-1984 this presence diminished considerably, and some of the protesters who were outside the base started claiming that they were being irradiated from the base because of physical problems they were unable to link to any other source. This was reported in Electronics Todsy magazine in 1985. The symptoms ranged from skin burns to headaches, drowsiness, menstrual bleeding at abnormal times, bouts of temporary paralysis, faulty speech coordination, and in one case circulatory failure severe enough to require hospitalization. Such a complex series of symptoms fits well with severe EM field exposure. The Ministry Of Defence (MOD) denied that any harmful electromagnetic signal was being used against the women, but did not deny that an electromagnetic signal may be in use which, if below lOmW/cm2, would not, under UK guidelines, be officially acknowledged as harmful. In other words, they lied.

Cases of Deliberate Experimentation on Individuals for Military Purposes
In one study over 100 Washington and Oregon state prisoners (recall the discussion of Phase II drug testing in Chapter 5) between 1963 and 1971 had their testicles dosed with radiation to discover what doses would sterilize them. The project was funded by the Atomic Energy Commission at a cost of $1.5 million.

From 1945 to 1947, 18 hospital patients, one of them only five years old, were injected with plutonium to measure how much the body would retain. The injections were represented as "experimental treatments" for the patients' illnesses. This appalling scheme was reviewed in the British Medical Journal in 1987, where it said that the "redeeming feature of the test was that the results were made available to other countries for their use."

Since: May 13

Westerville, OH

#903584 May 15, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text>You still have not responded to Holder being the one who ordered the flawed gun running operation stopped.
Holder stopped his own program therefore he is innocent!!!

Are you that stupid or are you a Liberal?

>> BOTH !!!
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#903585 May 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
CBO: We Don’t Have Time To Score Another Obamacare Repeal Bill
CBO noted in the letter that it found in July 2012 that repealing Obamacare would increase budget deficits by $109 billion over the next decade.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/c...
Spammer: The act of obnoxiously doing repeated cut-n-paste for attention all day long to disturb others. sonicfiller, a deranged dumbass on a forum, no job, running on complete empty, a moron posting inane crap or delusional spam of no relevance for only their deranged amusement to create inane argument 24/7..
ProvenScience

Somerset, KY

#903586 May 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
So, how many were among the hijackers?
So we should've "blamed" it all, on all of Saudi, and looked around there, where AQ headquarters was NOT?

I didn't think it was possible, but you just keep getting DUHMER...
"fkn dummazz " Duh A Vey.

Go eat a tootsie pop or something in your corner of duhm, and make it last ALL day long!

Dummy.

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