Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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“Come Home America!”

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leosnana, John Galt, Galt wrote:
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"Living in the past, when a good work ethic was assumed....

Oh, right, those times in the past as were depicted in Sister Carrie, The Jungle, An American Tragedy, and The Grapes of Wrath"? Or ,living in the present of soaring corporate profits, a strong Bull stock market, and growing inequality in wealth and wellness , higher wages and bonus benefits in the .01% of wealthiest American corporate executives and prolonged depressed, stagnant wages in the working middle class , declining national infrastructure. When a wealthy elite social class destroys its own capital base of production and growth , it's the beginning of the end . Hedrick Smith: "What's interesting is that when organized labor was strong and employee wages and salaries were rising, the U.S. had a strong and growing economy with shared prosperity that greatly benefited the middle class in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s. High wages meant strong consumer demand and strong consumer demand is what drives economic growth in any country. Since the 1970s, labor unions have grown weaker, wages have leveled off, corporate leaders have taken the lion's share of the economic gains, and the incomes of the top 1 percent have risen 600 percent since the mid-1970s."

"American corporate leaders tell us that they could not afford to raise wages because it would destroy America's competitiveness. But that does not explain how German companies raised their wages levels five times faster than U.S. companies and did better in the global marketplace than the U.S. While we were piling up $6 trillion in trade deficits form 2000 to 2010, Germany had $2 trillion in trade surpluses -- facing the same low-wage competition from China, India and the Asian tigers as we did. What's more, Germany's corporate managers sat down with their trade union leaders and figured out how to keep the best jobs in Germany instead of off-shoring them. So today, Germany still has 21 percent of its workforce in manufacturing, while the U.S. has only 9 percent. And those manufacturing jobs are the core of the economy and the best-paying jobs for working Americans, and not just assembly line workers but the engineers, designers, sales reps, parts suppliers, grocery stores, real estate agents, etc., etc. So we ought to try to learn how the Germans do it -- and it isn't by holding down wages. In fact, they did just the opposite." http://youtu.be/7UZgppmq9i0
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NJ raider 1….I agree Obama has created Joblessness!! 90 million Americans out of the Labor Force!!
You're not seriously putting this on Obama. He tried passing jobs bills. The House Republicans voted every last one of them down. It's obvious the problem isn't the top 1%, 2%, or the rich in general. Yet republicans oppose bills being proposed to jump start the bottom 2 tiers of this country. The trickle down effect only served the rich. They got richer, the cost of living rose as a result, yet minimum wage never budged. This has nothing to do with equality, & everything to do with greed. The only trickle down effect that ever worked in Americas history, was the profits that trickled down through generations due to the slave trade. Those same beneficiaries of those profits are the ones crying about equality that's never existed in the short lifespan of this country. The rich don't want equality. They want the same folks that's been running this country to continue running this country. They want to use the less fortunate as slaves/batteries to further their agenda of,"robbing the poor, & giving to the rich to stash I'm offshore bank accounts." I'm not saying those making all the money didn't earn it. I'm saying,"Oprah made enough money last year to make 365 millionaires & still be a billionaire." In the long run, it makes no sense for someone like her to continue making & stashing money. It doesn't help America at all, but if there were 365 new millionaires, that helps almost every business in America.That's the only way the trickle down effect will work. Making sure people get properly paid for their services, so in return they have money to inject into the economy. Thus machine called,"America only works when everyone is doing good, not just the 1%. People making record profits in the middle of a recession!

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John Galt, "The best outcome occurs when both sides of a transaction maximize their own benefit. " It may be the best outcome ,but impossible and never existed under real life conditions of a finite Earth. Now; you are speculating in fantasy scenarios? How does that possibly help your weak argument? It doesn't .
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leosnana, John Galt, Galt wrote:
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"Living in the past, when a good work ethic was assumed....
Oh, right, those times in the past as were depicted in Sister Carrie, The Jungle, An American Tragedy, and The Grapes of Wrath"? Or ,living in the present of soaring corporate profits, a strong Bull stock market, and growing inequality in wealth and wellness , higher wages and bonus benefits in the .01% of wealthiest American corporate executives and prolonged depressed, stagnant wages in the working middle class , declining national infrastructure. When a wealthy elite social class destroys its own capital base of production and growth , it's the beginning of the end . Hedrick Smith: "What's interesting is that when organized labor was strong and employee wages and salaries were rising, the U.S. had a strong and growing economy with shared prosperity that greatly benefited the middle class in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s. High wages meant strong consumer demand and strong consumer demand is what drives economic growth in any country. Since the 1970s, labor unions have grown weaker, wages have leveled off, corporate leaders have taken the lion's share of the economic gains, and the incomes of the top 1 percent have risen 600 percent since the mid-1970s."
"American corporate leaders tell us that they could not afford to raise wages because it would destroy America's competitiveness. But that does not explain how German companies raised their wages levels five times faster than U.S. companies and did better in the global marketplace than the U.S. While we were piling up $6 trillion in trade deficits form 2000 to 2010, Germany had $2 trillion in trade surpluses -- facing the same low-wage competition from China, India and the Asian tigers as we did. What's more, Germany's corporate managers sat down with their trade union leaders and figured out how to keep the best jobs in Germany instead of off-shoring them. So today, Germany still has 21 percent of its workforce in manufacturing, while the U.S. has only 9 percent. And those manufacturing jobs are the core of the economy and the best-paying jobs for working Americans, and not just assembly line workers but the engineers, designers, sales reps, parts suppliers, grocery stores, real estate agents, etc., etc. So we ought to try to learn how the Germans do it -- and it isn't by holding down wages. In fact, they did just the opposite." http://youtu.be/7UZgppmq9i0
The demographics of Germany are far superior to those of the US, making comparisons difficult.

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John Galt, "Financially secure people do not reach that status by overpaying for brand-name goods that they can buy cheaper at Walmart." No, they 'get that way' by believing that they are buying cheaper products from Walmart while in denial that Walmart dumps the higher costs of making 'cheaper' products on to the poorest countries in the world where the slave labor sweatshops are located . Poor countries that operate these sweatshops for Walmart and other companies that off-shore jobs pay the lion's share of the operating costs for Walmart while Walmart keeps the bulk of the profit .
"frontpageasshole"
Checked some labels on a few items of clothing I wear on a regular basis and I found;
- Levi Strauss blue jeans - made in Haiti
- Haines skivies and T shirts - made in Vietnam
- Dockers slacks - made in Vietnam
- Port Authority jacke - made in Vietnam
- Wrangler button down western shirt - made in The Philippines
- I Zod pullover - made in Jordan
- PGA Tour pullover - Taiwan
- Russel Atletics jacket - made in China
- Dockers V neck sweater - made Thailand
- Van Hueson pullover - made in Bangladesh
- Arrow button down shirt - made in Mexico
- Haggar slacks - made in Mexico
- Spalding jogging suit - made in China
- Wilson jogging pants - made in the Philippines
- Lee polished cotton slacks - made in Mexico
Guess what the countries noted above are basically all poor countries, and guess what else all those products were purchased, not at Wal-Mart but at retailers like JC Pennys, Nordstrom, Kohls, Macys, Fred Meyer.
Why do you not blame the well known American companies that use the services of the poor in these countries to produce their goods. Why do you not attack the Penny's, the Sears, the Nordstroms, the Macy's, the Fred Meyers, that get their products from these poor countries? The answer you are a phoneyfucking hypocrite.
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NJ raider 1 wrote:
<quoted text> You're not seriously putting this on Obama. He tried passing jobs bills.
Spending taxpayer dollars to hire more government employees is useless and destructive, just sucking private capital out of the economy.
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John Galt, "The best outcome occurs when both sides of a transaction maximize their own benefit. " It may be the best outcome ,but impossible and never existed under real life conditions of a finite Earth. Now; you are speculating in fantasy scenarios? How does that possibly help your weak argument? It doesn't .
What exactly do you think management-labor contract negotiations are?

Both parties trying to maximize their own benefit.
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"frontpageasshole"
Checked some labels on a few items of clothing I wear on a regular basis and I found;
- Levi Strauss blue jeans - made in Haiti
- Haines skivies and T shirts - made in Vietnam
- Dockers slacks - made in Vietnam
- Port Authority jacke - made in Vietnam
- Wrangler button down western shirt - made in The Philippines
- I Zod pullover - made in Jordan
- PGA Tour pullover - Taiwan
- Russel Atletics jacket - made in China
- Dockers V neck sweater - made Thailand
- Van Hueson pullover - made in Bangladesh
- Arrow button down shirt - made in Mexico
- Haggar slacks - made in Mexico
- Spalding jogging suit - made in China
- Wilson jogging pants - made in the Philippines
- Lee polished cotton slacks - made in Mexico
Guess what the countries noted above are basically all poor countries, and guess what else all those products were purchased, not at Wal-Mart but at retailers like JC Pennys, Nordstrom, Kohls, Macys, Fred Meyer.
Why do you not blame the well known American companies that use the services of the poor in these countries to produce their goods. Why do you not attack the Penny's, the Sears, the Nordstroms, the Macy's, the Fred Meyers, that get their products from these poor countries? The answer you are a phoneyfucking hypocrite.
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KMA
Attaboy, EasyEed.

Now, try to find a television manufactured in the US.
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Liar!
Food stamps are welfare and the number of people collecting food stamps has increased dramatically.

“Amor patriae.”

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frontporchreactionary wrote:
John Galt, "If Walmart paid significantly higher wages and benefits, the current workers would be replaced by more qualified people.
And the standard of living of the poor in the community would be reduced by dramatically higher prices. " Henry Ford would emphatically disagree with your wrongheaded meanness and disregard for your community. Henry Ford wrote,...' paying high wages was also smart business. When wages are low, uncertainty dogs the marketplace and growth is weak. But when pay is high and steady, Ford asserted, business is more secure because workers earn enough to become good customers.'
Who are the typical Wal-Mart employees? Unless you're into corporate upward mobility (you can find that at Wal-Mart, as well), Wal-Mart is all about employing lower to middle-class people. Why would you want them "replaced", to do what, get a job that YOU deem appropriate?
You know-it-all liberal a**holes are so wrapped up in your presumptuousness, you can't imagine someone working a job they enjoy, at a wage they seem happy with. If they want a more ostentatious lifestyle, they can try and find a better job.

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Might be your menstrual cycle coming to an end.
at least you picked a perfect name to use for posting ignorant comments.

“Amor patriae.”

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The idea that all Walmart shoppers are poor is ridiculous.
Financially secure people do not reach that status by overpaying for brand-name goods that they can buy cheaper at Walmart.
Damn right. That's a lesson one learns through experience and good sense. Most Walmart detractors have neither.
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Truth was spoken when Rev. wRight described obama as just another politician who will say anything just to get elected.

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"frontpageasshole"
Checked some labels on a few items of clothing I wear on a regular basis and I found;
- Levi Strauss blue jeans - made in Haiti
- Haines skivies and T shirts - made in Vietnam
- Dockers slacks - made in Vietnam
- Port Authority jacke - made in Vietnam
- Wrangler button down western shirt - made in The Philippines
- I Zod pullover - made in Jordan
- PGA Tour pullover - Taiwan
- Russel Atletics jacket - made in China
- Dockers V neck sweater - made Thailand
- Van Hueson pullover - made in Bangladesh
- Arrow button down shirt - made in Mexico
- Haggar slacks - made in Mexico
- Spalding jogging suit - made in China
- Wilson jogging pants - made in the Philippines
- Lee polished cotton slacks - made in Mexico
Guess what the countries noted above are basically all poor countries, and guess what else all those products were purchased, not at Wal-Mart but at retailers like JC Pennys, Nordstrom, Kohls, Macys, Fred Meyer.
Why do you not blame the well known American companies that use the services of the poor in these countries to produce their goods. Why do you not attack the Penny's, the Sears, the Nordstroms, the Macy's, the Fred Meyers, that get their products from these poor countries? The answer you are a phoneyfucking hypocrite.
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Amen, Easy
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Tracie McMillan's excellent piece on California agribusiness won a James Beard award last night! If you haven't read it yet, here's your chance:In the fields of California, wage theft is how agribusiness is done. http://prospect.org/article/common-dirt-0#.UY...
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John Galt wrote:
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The demographics of Germany are far superior to those of the US, making comparisons difficult.
80% authentic white German native born add another 10% for other white native born citizens.

Keep in mind that East Germany was isolated until the 1980's.

So, Germany is primarily a white, well educated nation of what? Eighty million who rely on unions to bolster their wages and government to keep German manufactured products competitive on the world stage.

If you poke around in German demographics you'll also find that there are far fewer men past age 65 than women and that German males diks are "on average" 1.6 inches shorter and 1/3 smaller in circumference that those of the planets other males.

So, which part of Germany are you from pal???

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John Galt, "Both parties trying to maximize their own benefit. " Never happened. The real outcome is that both parties agree to give up something (accept less than individual 'maximised benefit) so as to share the mutually agreeable optimal benefits of a social contract.

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John Galt, "Obama has exploded the welfare rolls." Another one of your FauxNews fake statistics to distract from you losing your argument with me?'Q: Do 11 states now have more people on welfare than they have employed?

A: A viral email making this claim is off base. It distorts a Forbes article that compares private-sector workers with those “dependent on the government,” including government workers and pensioners, and Medicaid recipients — not just “people on welfare.”' Check this out: http://www.factcheck.org/2013/01/death-spiral...

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Realtime , "So, Germany is primarily a white, well educated nation of what?" Q&A - Tolerance and Ethnic Diversity in German Society http://youtu.be/0FrG44s04ug
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frontporchreactionary wrote:
Realtime , "So, Germany is primarily a white, well educated nation of what?" Q&A - Tolerance and Ethnic Diversity in German Society http://youtu.be/0FrG44s04ug
Yeah__what I said earlier__c'mon we're talking about a nation that cheated at Olympic barrel jumping__the stupidest winter sport ever.

Well, maybe the second stupidest.

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