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TheIndependentMa jority

Hazard, KY

#890794 Apr 20, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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....your point being...????
Gitmo should NOT be closed.

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#890795 Apr 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Its a yes or no question
If you ask South Koreans or Jews if the killing of innocents in the Korean War and WWII was worth it, the answer would be yes.

If you're asking me if the acceleration of the drone program by this administration has created an even deeper and stronger animosity towards the United States, the answer would be yes.
Cway

United States

#890796 Apr 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
This is also a very moving rendition of Simon and Garfunkel's "America" performed by David Bowie at the
Your stuff is sissy music.

Eric Burdon and the Animals. Early Rolling Stones. That is real rock and roll.

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#890797 Apr 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know that you have a much much better chance getting killed by a doctor or even your own illegitimate government tha. a rogue terrorist?
Only a fool gives up liberty for security and deserves neither.
Do you know how many tragic and unfortunate deaths happen every single day that aren't caused by a bomb exploding in public places and planes flying into buildings?

Do you also know al Qaeda is regrouping in Africa?

It ain't over...no matter how much Obama wants you to believe he single-handedly has saved us all by finding bin Laden which he had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with when it came to the decisions leading up to his discovery five years beforehand.
TSM

El Paso, TX

#890798 Apr 20, 2013
Liberals apologist out trying explain away the President narrative’ Al-Qaeda was on their Heels and the Threat of Terrorism was Declining’ so Liberals was this just a Crime or an Act of Terrorism?
Cway

United States

#890799 Apr 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
This is how I know. And most of the rest of the world who aren't in the throes of denial.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search...
Or if you prefer reading about it...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/new...
I have better things to do than verify your ratty sources.
TheIndependentMa jority

Hazard, KY

#890800 Apr 20, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
<quoted text>
"Political terrorism" as opposed to "what" other terrorism?
This is rather vague rhetoric ....and now you add race, creed or color???
You seem to be getting lost and tangled in your own rope, Cowboy.
Au Contraire--

terrorism, the threat or use of violence, often against the civilian population, to achieve political or social ends, to intimidate opponents, or to publicize grievances. The term dates from the Reign of Terror(1793–94) in the French Revolution but has taken on additional meaning in the 20th cent. Terrorism involves activities such as assassinations, bombings, random killings, and hijackings. Used for ***political***, not military, purposes, and most typically by groups too weak to mount open assaults, it is a modern tool of the alienated, and its psychological impact on the public has increased because of extensive coverage by the media. Political terrorism also may be part of a government campaign to eliminate the opposition, as under Hitler
Mussolini, Stalin and others, or may be part of a revolutionary effort to overthrow a regime.

Terrorist attacks also are now a common tactic in guerrilla warfare.
Governments find attacks by terrorist groups difficult to prevent; international agreements to tighten borders or return terrorists for trial may offer some deterrence.(freedictionary)

Official United States Government Definition of Terrorism

"[An] act of terrorism, means any activity that (A) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life that is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State; and (B) appears to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping."

(United States Code Congressional and Administrative News, 98th Congress, Second Session, 1984, Oct. 19, volume 2; par. 3077, 98 STAT. 2707 [West Publishing Co., 1984])

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The young man is a US citizen. No need to deport for trial anywhere else.

Guilty.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-marathon-bomb...

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#890801 Apr 20, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you understand why due process is important and without it there is NOTHING that you can do when even an.american is arbitrarely determined an enemy combatant?
War criminals receive "due process" in military tribunals. Not in the American court system where lawyers defend their rights as if they were an American citizen who jumped from the Twin Towers.

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#890802 Apr 20, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
I have better things to do than verify your ratty sources.
It was worldwide news. But you've already proven you're too hopeless to waste any more time on. Sorry.
Cgay

Pompano Beach, FL

#890803 Apr 20, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Your stuff is sissy music.
Eric Burdon and the Animals. Early Rolling Stones. That is real rock and roll.
Thee Gay thayin thitthy?
Voluntarist

United States

#890804 Apr 20, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
just like the Weekly Standard? NRO? Heritage? and on and on with most every right wing site i can name?
So where does that leave us?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#890805 Apr 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
If you ask South Koreans or Jews if the killing of innocents in the Korean War and WWII was worth it, the answer would be yes.
If you're asking me if the acceleration of the drone program by this administration has created an even deeper and stronger animosity towards the United States, the answer would be yes.
That's shamefully untrue.

Boooo!
Forum

Hobbs, NM

#890806 Apr 20, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
The terrorists uncle was just on tv, pleading with his estranged nephew to turn himself in
He was in a boat bleeding to death.
How can they shoot at a child? Yes what he
did was murder, but he is innocent until
proven guilty. Killing him is wrong.

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#890807 Apr 20, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Your stuff is sissy music.
Eric Burdon and the Animals. Early Rolling Stones. That is real rock and roll.
The Rolling Stones and The Who were also at the 9/11 fundraiser concert where David Bowie sang his heartfelt rendition of "America".

So sissy music to you is musicians honoring the dead and the heroes of 9/11?

Like I said...you're just too far beyond help.
Voluntarist

United States

#890808 Apr 20, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Pelosi's a scumbag. An apologist for torture just like you.
So you agree that the us is involved with torture.
Cway

United States

#890809 Apr 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
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The Korean War held back communism from the North supported by China from taking over the South.
North Korean leaders and military don't consider their own citizens as human beings. Entire families are imprisoned in the numerous gulags, tortured, starved and executed on a routine basis because one family member escaped to the South or inadvertently disgraced the leader who the North Korean population literally worship as a god.
I'm pretty sure South Korea is grateful for their freedom on our behalf.
If you have 45 minutes, look at the National Geographic's documentary "Inside North Korea".
You will see things differently. I guarantee it.
Carol, you are a fckn dimwit as always. Chinging your SN doesn't change that.

I never stated or implied in any way the Korean war wasn't worth fighting.

My point was that, contrary to your idiotic analogy, the reason for going to war in Korea was honest and valid compared to Bush and Cheney's lies which wrongly got us into Iraq.

You are such a dip-brained retardican, it makes hippies high on acid seem clear minded and rational.

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#890810 Apr 20, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>That's shamefully untrue.
Boooo!
What? You think Jews would have rather been exterminated and Europe would rather have been under Nazi rule? Or South Koreans would rather be subject to the whims of a madman who thinks he's a god?

Have you lost your mind completely?
TheIndependentMa jority

Hazard, KY

#890811 Apr 20, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Right You were defending Bush's declaration of Bon Laden Being irrelevant & said killing him did nothing. i.e. a waste of time.
First, this shows how dumb you are. The elimination of the Al Qaeda leadership definitely hurt that organization. Secondly, Bin Laden was a fund raiser for the organization.
Taking out the Al Qaeda leadership has been very effective.
But hey, you keep defending your pal & hero George W Bush.
Wake up Duhmazz-bin_laden was only half the leadership.
Zawahari, a living, walking shell of depravity, suffered at the hands of more depravity, was HIS mentor.

Do you always suck down the grape ape juice of cluelessness so ignorantly?
Voluntarist

United States

#890812 Apr 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
If you ask South Koreans or Jews if the killing of innocents in the Korean War and WWII was worth it, the answer would be yes.
If you're asking me if the acceleration of the drone program by this administration has created an even deeper and stronger animosity towards the United States, the answer would be yes.
I was asking your opinion on the drone strikes without congressional authority of innocent women and children, especially without a declaration of war, do you care about checks and balances?
A declaration of war?

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#890813 Apr 20, 2013
Injudgement wrote:
<quoted text>Of the 33 nations the US has bombed and/or invaded since 1946, which one exactly was to protect our "freedom".
Freedom is what we stand for. You just take yours for granted. Others now live in freedom because of how important it is to us.

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