Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887685 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
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You should read Fletcher Prouty's "The Secret Team" which I am slowly and painfully grinding my way through.
Prouty, a former USAF focal point officer (coordinated with the CIA in black ops) had both an intimate knowledge of CIA covert operations and knew many of the top officials within the agency.
Much of the secrecy surrounding the CIA is not for the purpose of national security, but to shield it from revelation of its criminal activities.
Prouty further makes the case that the agency has its own agenda. Many of the presidential advisors in State, Defense and the Pentagon are Agency assets pretending to be independent voices of reason.
You should read "Animal farm"
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887686 Apr 13, 2013
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LOL... NO, I didn't!
WW I was the result of German militarism. They declared war on Russia and France, then invaded Belgium. European colonialism was not a major factor. The Balkan crisis was the key conflict, with Austria backed by Germany on one side, and the Serbs backed by Russia on the other. With France allied to Russia by a defensive alliance.
WW II was also the result of German militarism, although to be more fair, it was the Nazi political movement which brought it about. Very few Germans would have given Hitler their vote had they known of his plan to launch another European war.
European turf wars, we should have stayed out.
Cway

United States

#887687 Apr 13, 2013
St Black Pope wrote:
<quoted text>The economic disaster would be partially under Bush, a few months and primarily under Obama.
In a pig's eye. As stated earlier, once recessions are launched, they carry a great deal of momentum and are difficult to check.

You would have us believe the 500,000 jobs lost each month during Bush's final quarter, the banking crisis and the raising of the national debt to 11.4 trillion was merely a blip on the radar screen. Something anyone could have dealt with in a few months.

Of course, this view is the height of dishonesty. I need not say anything more.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887688 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Weak.
I'm perfectly content with the 3 judge it's I received for my efforts.

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I have it on good authority Dave and his goat's relationship would be strictly platonic, something about Dave losing his manhood in a steel mill accident."

No reason everything on here has to be so serious, it's entertainment.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887689 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
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In a pig's eye. As stated earlier, once recessions are launched, they carry a great deal of momentum and are difficult to check.
You would have us believe the 500,000 jobs lost each month during Bush's final quarter, the banking crisis and the raising of the national debt to 11.4 trillion was merely a blip on the radar screen. Something anyone could have dealt with in a few months.
Of course, this view is the height of dishonesty. I need not say anything more.
Obama begged for the job, remember? He said he would fix it, remember? He said he would half the deficit, remember?
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887690 Apr 13, 2013
Just for Cway:

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At President Clinton’s direction, no fewer than 10 federal agencies issued a chilling ultimatum to banks and mortgage lenders to ease credit for lower-income minorities or face investigations for lending discrimination and suffer the related adverse publicity. They also were threatened with denial of access to the all-important secondary mortgage market and stiff fines, along with other penalties.
The threat was codified in a 20-page “Policy Statement on Discrimination in Lending” and entered into the Federal Register on April 15, 1994, by the Interagency Task Force on Fair Lending. Clinton set up the little-known body to coordinate an unprecedented crackdown on alleged bank redlining.
The edict — completely overlooked by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission and the mainstream media — was signed by then-HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros, Attorney General Janet Reno, Comptroller of the Currency Eugene Ludwig and Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, along with the heads of six other financial regulatory agencies.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887693 Apr 13, 2013
For Bush's efforts he was called racist and that he hated the poor.
Cway

United States

#887694 Apr 13, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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I would love nothing more than for all of our troops to be brought home, neither party will do it.
Lou, of all people, TSM has shown me the light. Or perhaps, better put, shown me the final straw which broke the camel's back.

That our Congress would make themselves exempt from insider trading laws is incredible. The passage of the Patriot Act under Bush and the National Defense Authorization Act under Obama... the draconian anti-drug statutes which have begun to turn us into a police state... anti-gun laws in defiance of the 2nd Amendment... the GOP's endless support of big business crooks... the Democrat's failure to rein in Medicare... both party's failure to rein in spending... our hideous foreign policy... failure to rein in the CIA...

Lou, I've had it with the two of them. They've both betrayed us.

From here on out, I vote third party.
Cway

United States

#887695 Apr 13, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
Just for Cway:
Gunner wrote:
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At President Clinton’s direction, no fewer than 10 federal agencies issued a chilling ultimatum to banks and mortgage lenders to ease credit for lower-income minorities or face investigations for lending discrimination and suffer the related adverse publicity. They also were threatened with denial of access to the all-important secondary mortgage market and stiff fines, along with other penalties.
The threat was codified in a 20-page “Policy Statement on Discrimination in Lending” and entered into the Federal Register on April 15, 1994, by the Interagency Task Force on Fair Lending. Clinton set up the little-known body to coordinate an unprecedented crackdown on alleged bank redlining.
The edict — completely overlooked by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission and the mainstream media — was signed by then-HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros, Attorney General Janet Reno, Comptroller of the Currency Eugene Ludwig and Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, along with the heads of six other financial regulatory agencies.
Lou, I may get around to researching this. However, 1994 is not 2004. The lending standards of the banks did not decline under Clinton like they did under Bush. And Democrats were a minority in Congress at that point.

I've said this a million times... the banks volunatarily made bad loans knowing they'd keep the payments and get the property by default as well, which was good in a time of rising real estate value.

The game blew up in their faces when the supply of housing peaked and demand fell. Home prices dropped and the banks now suddenly had thousands of homes below market value.

Please... please... please... try to remember this.

But suffice to say, I give up on both Parties. A plague on both their houses.
Cway

United States

#887696 Apr 13, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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Obama begged for the job, remember? He said he would fix it, remember? He said he would half the deficit, remember?
Lou, they all promise the moon when they run for office.

Regardless, in my opinion, the Bush years were an irreversible turning point for the worse.

But suffice to say, my defense of the Democrat Party seems an increasingly usless exercise. At best, it is a defense of the lesser of two evils. They're both jerks.

For example, U.S. support of Israel. What do we taxpayers and the Israelis get out of it?

I'll tell you what. The Israelis get 3 billion in foreign aid and a blank check of unlimited military suppport.

What do we get in return? Enemies.
World Champion

Brooklyn, NY

#887697 Apr 13, 2013
Hey is Bazooka Joe protected under the 2nd ammendment? This could be a hell of a court battle as joe had his bazooka many milleniums before all this crybabies we are the world crap.

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#887698 Apr 13, 2013
They ask, "Why don't they like us? Why don't they vote with the republicans". We respond, "Because we know what you think of us and feel about us."

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DEATH

Orlando, FL

#887701 Apr 13, 2013
YOU SILLY KIDS. I'M GOING TO DESTROY YOU. I TOLD YOU BEFORE.... BUT YOU DON'T LISTEN. WELL HEAR ME NOW... THIS THREAD... IS DEAD. IF YOU MAKE THE MISTAKE OF BELIEVING OTHERWISE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL VERY, VERY BADLY IN JUST A MINUTE... IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL, MIND YOU... IT'S JUST WHAT I DO. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED HOW FEW OF YOU ARE LEFT? COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT. I LOVE MEN: THEY ARE EVER HOPEFUL OF THEIR VICTORY. TESTOSTERONE, WHAT'RE YOU GONNA DO?

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DEATH

Orlando, FL

#887703 Apr 13, 2013
CAROL, DEAR.. I KNOW ABOUT THE CANCER. I KNOW YOU'RE SUFFERING.. COME TO ME... I'LL TAKE CARE OF YOU...

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DEATH

Orlando, FL

#887705 Apr 13, 2013
COME TO ME, CAROL... I HAVE WHAT YOU NEED.. COME TO ME...

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DEATH

Orlando, FL

#887706 Apr 13, 2013
St Black Pope wrote:
<quoted text>"spell your case in more detail", that is not even grammatical and that unlike my "Bin Laden" typo, you just don't know or want to know.
WHATEVER. GET OUT OF MY WAY... I'M KILLING CAROL... SHE'S THE WEAK LINK... WHEN SHE GOES, YOU ALL GO. HAHAHAHAHA...

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Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887708 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Lou, of all people, TSM has shown me the light. Or perhaps, better put, shown me the final straw which broke the camel's back.
That our Congress would make themselves exempt from insider trading laws is incredible. The passage of the Patriot Act under Bush and the National Defense Authorization Act under Obama... the draconian anti-drug statutes which have begun to turn us into a police state... anti-gun laws in defiance of the 2nd Amendment... the GOP's endless support of big business crooks... the Democrat's failure to rein in Medicare... both party's failure to rein in spending... our hideous foreign policy... failure to rein in the CIA...
Lou, I've had it with the two of them. They've both betrayed us.
From here on out, I vote third party.
All the more reason to strive for smaller government, less taxes and term limits.

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DEATH

Orlando, FL

#887709 Apr 13, 2013
HAHAHAHAHAHA, A BLACK POPE, HUH? HAHAHAHAHAHA...

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DEATH

Orlando, FL

#887710 Apr 13, 2013
CAROL, HONEY, COME TO ME... COME EXPERIENCE WISDOM, DEAR, YOU'LL LEARN SOMETHING.. KISS MY RING... G'HEAD... DO IT!!!

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DEATH

Orlando, FL

#887711 Apr 13, 2013
St Black Pope wrote:
<quoted text>11.4 trillion? Dude, stop lying, that debt was because of Obama and his spending idiocy. This idiot, Obama wants you to think that we can spend our way out of his economic crisis. Why don't you quit your job, then go on a spending spree to get out of your debt.
WHATSA MATTER, COWARD? KITTY CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE?

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