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“It's always darkest 'fore dawn”

Since: Jul 08

When's dawn?

#887610 Apr 13, 2013
TSM wrote:
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Leo…. I’ve got this Novel idea parents teach your daughters not to spread their Legs but if they do and becomes pregnant then that’s between, parents/ daughter, and the guy not their daughter and the taxpayers prevention begins at Home!!
Does "the guy not their daughter" make sense in "Tecus"?(I do notice you don't mention the unfairness of making women pay for contraception all those years when most of those plans paid for Viagra, etc., for men. Let's include the caveat that parents teach THEIR sons that if you can't get it up, don't use it?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#887611 Apr 13, 2013
nobamaredux wrote:
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Ryan White was an innocent victim, unlike the AIDS-infected homosexual who sold the blood resulting in White's death.
It was probably a drug addict, the blood/plasma donation centers of that era were shtholes. HIV, Hepatitus, you name it__nobody gave a sht. Not discounting the role of gay men in the epidemic just trying to keep it real.

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#887613 Apr 13, 2013
baccac wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=7k9SoLcRmw 8 ……………… Get Lucky Sometimes
Obama spent this Year almost 4 Trillion?
CNBC - El-Erian: Cyprus Rescue Goes From Bad to Worse: http://tinyurl.com/cghcelj

This is our script, too.

We're stuck with the azzhole Boy Messiah.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#887614 Apr 13, 2013
nobamaredux wrote:
<quoted text>
Erectile dysfunction drugs are not covered by most policies (or by Medicare), but if they were, you should be able to opt out.
Hate men much, you lesbian slut?
Perhaps the actual pills aren't but the physicians services are as is T replacement therapy. Same way with birth control pills, someone has to do the exam and write the prescriptions.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#887616 Apr 13, 2013
leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>Does "the guy not their daughter" make sense in "Tecus"?(I do notice you don't mention the unfairness of making women pay for contraception all those years when most of those plans paid for Viagra, etc., for men. Let's include the caveat that parents teach THEIR sons that if you can't get it up, don't use it?
Your personality precludes any need for contraception.
TSM

El Paso, TX

#887618 Apr 13, 2013
leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>Does "the guy not their daughter" make sense in "Tecus"?(I do notice you don't mention the unfairness of making women pay for contraception all those years when most of those plans paid for Viagra, etc., for men. Let's include the caveat that parents teach THEIR sons that if you can't get it up, don't use it?
I agree if you wanted Play than you Must Pay that goes for Daughters/Sons!! Let’s take both out of the equation neither should be funded by Taxpayers!!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#887619 Apr 13, 2013
10 Anti-Gay Myths Debunked

Ever since born-again singer and orange juice pitchwoman Anita Bryant helped kick off the contemporary anti-gay movement more than 30 years ago, hard-line elements of the religious right have been searching for ways to demonize gay people — or, at a minimum, to find arguments that will prevent their normalization in society. For the former Florida beauty queen and her Save Our Children group, it was the alleged plans of gay men and lesbians to "recruit" in schools that provided the fodder for their crusade.

But in addition to hawking that myth, the legions of anti-gay activists who followed have added a panoply of others, ranging from the extremely doubtful claim that sexual orientation is a choice, to unalloyed lies like the claims that gay men molest children far more than heterosexuals or that hate crime laws will lead to the legalization of bestiality and necrophilia. These fairy tales are important to the anti-gay right because they form the basis of its claim that homosexuality is a social evil that must be suppressed — an opinion rejected by virtually all relevant medical and scientific authorities. They also almost certainly contribute to hate crime violence directed at the LGBT community, which is more targeted for such attacks than any other minority group in America. What follows are 10 key myths propagated by the anti-gay movement, along with the truth behind the propaganda.

MYTH # 8
Gay people are more prone to be mentally ill and to abuse drugs and alcohol.

THE ARGUMENT
Anti-gay groups want not only to depict sexual orientation as something that can be changed but also to show that heterosexuality is the most desirable "choice" — even if religious arguments are set aside. The most frequently used secular argument made by anti-gay groups in that regard is that homosexuality is inherently unhealthy, both mentally and physically. As a result, most anti-gay rights groups reject the 1973 decision by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) to remove homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses. Some of these groups, including the particularly hard-line Traditional Values Coalition, claim that "homosexual activists" managed to infiltrate the APA in order to sway its decision.

THE FACTS
All major professional mental health organizations are on record as stating that homosexuality is not a mental disorder.

It is true that LGBT people suffer higher rates of anxiety, depression, and depression-related illnesses and behaviors like alcohol and drug abuse than the general population. But studies done during the past 15 years have determined that it is the stress of being a member of a minority group in an often-hostile society — and not LGBT identity itself — that accounts for the higher levels of mental illness and drug use.

Richard J. Wolitski, an expert on minority status and public health issues at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, put it like this in 2008: "Economic disadvantage, stigma, and discrimination ... increase stress and diminish the ability of individuals [in minority groups] to cope with stress, which in turn contribute to poor physical and mental health."

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelli...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#887620 Apr 13, 2013
MYTH # 10
Gay people can choose to leave homosexuality.

THE ARGUMENT
If people are not born gay, as anti-gay activists claim, then it should be possible for individuals to abandon homosexuality. This view is buttressed among religiously motivated anti-gay activists by the idea that homosexual practice is a sin and humans have the free will needed to reject sinful urges.

A number of "ex-gay" religious ministries have sprung up in recent years with the aim of teaching gay people to become heterosexuals, and these have become prime purveyors of the claim that gays and lesbians, with the aid of mental therapy and Christian teachings, can "come out of homosexuality." Exodus International, the largest of these ministries, plainly states, "You don't have to be gay!" Another, the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, describes itself as "a professional, scientific organization that offers hope to those who struggle with unwanted homosexuality."

THE FACTS
"Reparative" or sexual reorientation therapy — the pseudo-scientific foundation of the ex-gay movement — has been rejected by all the established and reputable American medical, psychological, psychiatric, and professional counseling organizations. In 2009, for instance, the American Psychological Association adopted a resolution, accompanied by a 138-page report, that repudiated ex-gay therapy. The report concluded that compelling evidence suggested that cases of individuals going from gay to straight were "rare" and that "many individuals continued to experience same-sex sexual attractions" after reparative therapy. The APA resolution added that "there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation" and asked "mental health professionals to avoid misrepresenting the efficacy of sexual orientation change efforts by promoting or promising change in sexual orientation." The resolution also affirmed that same-sex sexual and romantic feelings are normal.

Some of the most striking, if anecdotal, evidence of the ineffectiveness of sexual reorientation therapy has been the numerous failures of some of its most ardent advocates. For example, the founder of Exodus International, Michael Bussee, left the organization in 1979 with a fellow male ex-gay counselor because the two had fallen in love. Alan Chambers, current president of Exodus, said in 2007 that with years of therapy, he's mostly conquered his attraction to men, but then admitted, "By no means would we ever say that change can be sudden or complete."

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelli...
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887621 Apr 13, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>Homosexual, idiot, criminal, felon, deviant, pervert, pedophile, rapist, low IQ democrats, ignorant bigot and racist like RealDave. To RealDave they're his family members and friends all born with a deranged behavior according to RealDave...Homosexuals, criminals and deviants all with their deranged behavior and mental illness he wants to call normal..
Real Dumb Dave desires to marry his goat.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887622 Apr 13, 2013
Fenris GOP Cliff Zombie wrote:
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Try not to stereotype the entire Democrat Party as a collection of radicals.
As for the press, it blows in both directions. Note how Bush and Cheney were given a free pass in the preceding months they hawked their BS War in Iraq to the public. Note how the administation used their assets in the press like Novak and Miller to take out Valerie Plame.
The press also praised the dictatorship of South Vietnam as a "democracy" during much of the Vietnam era. Hardly a liberal point of view.
I didn't, I clearly delineated 2 groups, loudmouths and normals.
Patriot

Boulder, CO

#887623 Apr 13, 2013
What about Romans 13?

The way we view Romans chapter 13:1-7 greatly determines the way we interact with the governments of men...

http://romans13.embassyofheaven.com/
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887624 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
First, your remark is somewhat irrelevant.
My post was a rebuttal to the claim that Wilson and FDR "got us into world wars", which is true, but you express this in a contemptuous manner inferring that there wasn't a good reason for them doing so.
Then there was EasyEed's statement that Kennedy and LBJ got us involved in Vietnam. This ignores the previous commitments of the Eisenhower administration along with extremely aggressive covert activities of the CIA which were intent on provoking a war.
Did you know that Vietnam was a single, undivided country until 1954? The splitting of the country into northern and southern halves was an agreement reached by the French and Vietminh parties at the Paris Peace Accords of the same year.
The purpose of the division was to allow French and Vietminh forces the opportunity to disengage and pull back to their respective territory. The French agreed to pull out.
There was also a provision within the accords which called for a reunification plebiscite in 1956 in the South, so that it could decide whether or not it wished to reunite with the North.
To make a long story short, the CIA put President Ngo Diem in power through rigged elections in 1954. Then with our blessing, he cancelled the 1956 Plebiscite. But Diem went further. "The Pentagon Papers" points out how Diem's secret police rounded up communists engaged in peaceful political activity and imprisoned them.
But the CIA went further. Before the ink was dry on the 1954 Paris Accords, the CIA set up shop in Vietnam and began running sabotage operations in the North.
The North did not react right away to these provocations. But in 1959, their leadership finally gave the green light to fight back against the Diem regime.
China and North Korea are vile dictatorships. Vietnam is far more benign, although the communists retain a monopoly on political power. Socialists nations like Venezuela and Nicaragua have democratic elections and are not totalitarian.
Of course I knew that, I know about everything there is to know.

Did you know that both world wars were the European imperialist colonialists fighting over their spoils they stole from the rest of the world? India didn't volunteer to be ruled by Britain for 200 years.

The overall thrust of my argument is that there are always 2 sides to any argument, 2 sides to any war we entered. I believe Iraq and Afghanistan were mistakes, along with WWI, WWII and the Civil war, especially for those who gave their lives.

President Oblamer has not ruled out war with Iran, I doubt either of us will support that.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887625 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Perot's campaign hurt GHW Bush. So what? We had a similar problem with Ralph Nader in 2000.
I recall at the end of GHW Bush's term in 1993, we had a moderate recession in full swing. That marked the end of Reagan's economic "triumph". It was based on an unsustainable Cold War military build-up.
As for Clinton, he also left office with a moderate recession, but with a balanced budget and the least government spending in the years from 1981 to 2009.
The massive spending which has led us to the current crisis began with Reagan, was perpetuated by GHW, slowed down by Clinton, then ruinously revived by W.
Case closed.
Case closed? Surely you jest and surely we want to know why you're leaving out president Oblamer and his so far $6 trillion in new debt.

Let me write it out:

$6,000,000,000,000 in new debt, so far.

PS, Clinton was indeed restrained by a republican congress, wisely he didn't fight it too much, he was practical and not the rigid ideologue Oblamer is.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887627 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
First, your remark is somewhat irrelevant.
My post was a rebuttal to the claim that Wilson and FDR "got us into world wars", which is true, but you express this in a contemptuous manner inferring that there wasn't a good reason for them doing so.
Then there was EasyEed's statement that Kennedy and LBJ got us involved in Vietnam. This ignores the previous commitments of the Eisenhower administration along with extremely aggressive covert activities of the CIA which were intent on provoking a war.
Did you know that Vietnam was a single, undivided country until 1954? The splitting of the country into northern and southern halves was an agreement reached by the French and Vietminh parties at the Paris Peace Accords of the same year.
The purpose of the division was to allow French and Vietminh forces the opportunity to disengage and pull back to their respective territory. The French agreed to pull out.
There was also a provision within the accords which called for a reunification plebiscite in 1956 in the South, so that it could decide whether or not it wished to reunite with the North.
To make a long story short, the CIA put President Ngo Diem in power through rigged elections in 1954. Then with our blessing, he cancelled the 1956 Plebiscite. But Diem went further. "The Pentagon Papers" points out how Diem's secret police rounded up communists engaged in peaceful political activity and imprisoned them.
But the CIA went further. Before the ink was dry on the 1954 Paris Accords, the CIA set up shop in Vietnam and began running sabotage operations in the North.
The North did not react right away to these provocations. But in 1959, their leadership finally gave the green light to fight back against the Diem regime.
China and North Korea are vile dictatorships. Vietnam is far more benign, although the communists retain a monopoly on political power. Socialists nations like Venezuela and Nicaragua have democratic elections and are not totalitarian.
I guess the lesson we should learn is to never help anyone, anywhere, anytime. Works well for the Swiss.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887628 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I'll agree the GOP Congress deserves credit for balancing the budget and keeping spending in check during Clinton's time in office.
But that raises the question... why were they so tight with Clinton while giving Reagan and both Bushes everything they wanted?
The answer is simple. Spending is what makes politicians popular. So GOP motives were based more on whittling down Clinton's chances for re-election and his legacy than anything else. Try to remember they went after him throughout the six years they held the majority, even impeaching him for lying about an extra-marital affair.
The same GOP which let GW Bush off the hook for launching a war of aggression based on lies.
Returning to the spending issue, the enormous deficits we have today started with Reagan, slowed greatly under Clinton, then went wild again under GW Bush.
The strength of a nation is greatly based on its wealth. Well, you Republicans are mostly to blame for the state we're in. You're only frugal when it hurts the political opposition.
To suggest the rot began under Clinton who added only 1.6 trillion to the natonal debt, compared to the 5.7 tallied by GW Bush is sheer nonsense, and you know better.
9/11 ring a bell? So often Bush's detractors act like 9/11 never happened. Is it your claim 9/11 was meaningless as faR AS OUR BUDGETS and defense spending is concerned?
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887630 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Contrary to your claim above, Reagan reduced taxes.
Twice as many Republicans voted for the Iraq War than Democrats.
The Democrats were privy to the cherry-picked data coming out of the Pentagon's OSP which was created and run by Cheney.
The economy under Bush did somewhat well but was driven by an Alan Greenspan-created low-interest rate driven real estate bubble.
The real villain in the real estate bubble were the banks who made predatory loans because it was profitable, not because Dodd and Frank made them. These banks are now under indictment and some have been fined heavily.
I won't bother with the rest of your BS. In Carol La-La Land, Repubicans are perfect and never do anything wrong.
Hardly, I criticize Bush for his "compassionate conservatism" and his unwillingness to fight the dems on their desired increases in social spending. Republicans are far from perfect, an elusive concept at best, but they are soooooooo much better than the only real viable alternative, the democrats and their creeping socialism and fascist desires to completely control out lives..
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887633 Apr 13, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Contrary to your claim above, Reagan reduced taxes.
Twice as many Republicans voted for the Iraq War than Democrats.
The Democrats were privy to the cherry-picked data coming out of the Pentagon's OSP which was created and run by Cheney.
The economy under Bush did somewhat well but was driven by an Alan Greenspan-created low-interest rate driven real estate bubble.
The real villain in the real estate bubble were the banks who made predatory loans because it was profitable, not because Dodd and Frank made them. These banks are now under indictment and some have been fined heavily.
I won't bother with the rest of your BS. In Carol La-La Land, Repubicans are perfect and never do anything wrong.
From emam or somebody:

"I get so tired of educating those who refuse to acknowledge the truth. For the last time, the Bush Tax cuts resulted in 54 straight months of economic growth. The recession occurred after Democrats gained control of Congress and began wildly borrowing and spending trillions of dollars and implementing their bone-headed and supremely irresponsible fiscal policy."

The economic numbers don't lie. Take a look for yourself:
http://forecast-chart.com/chart-gdp-rate.html

The economy grew every single quarter until Q4 of 2008. That's solid continual economic growth that directly resulted from the Bush Tax Cuts.

The economy didn't take a shit until a year and a half after Democrats took over Congress and their socialist policies were in place.

And Bush was forced to deal with the effects of 9/11, remember?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#887634 Apr 13, 2013
St Black Pope wrote:
<quoted text>All the reputable American medical, psychological, psychiatric and professional counseling organizations? Well, based on how this is constructed it could be 10 out of 1000, and only the ones who agree are deemed as respectable. Wrong.
Sorry, the WHO, the world organization disagrees with you.
Also, the APA only represents 40% of professionals in these categories in America and less than 1% worldwide.
Also, when you say the APA, who in the APA do you mean and what peer reviewed studies do you refer to. You do know that the APA was reprimanded by the US Senate for its support of pedophilia and agreement with it not being a mental disorder. You do know that the APA lost their credentials amidst these political type stances.
You do know that the APA has taken many moral, political positions and adopted non-scientific approaches, and thus they are not considered credible.
Here is something from June 2012:
Former APA President Says of APA today "Political Correctness Rules, Not Science"
Posted by F.R Newbrough on June 10, 2012 at 10:30am
View Blog
Dr. Nicholas Cummings, the man who led the movement to have homosexuality declassified as a mental illness says of the APA today that "Political Correctness Rules, Not Science" in this in depth interview discussing politics and the APA.
He goes further to say "Cherry Picking Results became the mode and the Gay Rights Movement Sort of Captured the APA.
Dr. Nicholas Cummings, former APA president, who led the fight to remove homosexuality as a mental illness, in June 201 says that he led many gays to overcome homosexuality and all the medical community needs is one.
He says that he encountered men who had been abused as children and other gay men who had been dressed as girls at age 4 and 5. He also says that failures happen in Alcohol treatment too.
He said that the APA would not allow any authority for reparative therapy on any committee in the APA which studied the results.
http://www.rpvnetwork.org/profiles/blogs/form...
rpv network org is the Republican Party of Virginia network__come along and share our conservative views.
lily waxman raton fl

Pompano Beach, FL

#887636 Apr 13, 2013
Emaam wrote:
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Anyone else notice that conservatives are the only ones that ever mention animals as potential sex partners?
lily boca is a conservative?
NJ raider 1

Elizabeth, NJ

#887637 Apr 13, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course I knew that, I know about everything there is to know.
Did you know that both world wars were the European imperialist colonialists fighting over their spoils they stole from the rest of the world? India didn't volunteer to be ruled by Britain for 200 years.
The overall thrust of my argument is that there are always 2 sides to any argument, 2 sides to any war we entered. I believe Iraq and Afghanistan were mistakes, along with WWI, WWII and the Civil war, especially for those who gave their lives.
President Oblamer has not ruled out war with Iran, I doubt either of us will support that.
You don't rule out war with Iran when that man has publicly announced he withwipe Israel poff the map if he get nuclear capability. That's the only war in need of support by the American people. 1st Israel then America. He's been in opposition of America since he's took control.

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