Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887048 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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First, Leadville Lou is simplifying to the point of distortion as Repugnants are want to do. Yes, Wilson and FDR got us into two world wars, but after we were attacked. You left out that little detail, didn't you, Lou?
Little details sometimes make all the difference.
As for EasyEed, you would have us believe Kennedy committed 17,000 troops without any prior commitments.
This simply isn't the case. It was Eisenhower who sent in the first 600 military personnel and signed a pledge to come to South Vietnam's support if attacked. With those conditions in place, Kennedy inherited a situation with potential to escalate.
If you read either "The Pentagon Papers" or Fletcher Prouty's "The Secret Team", both sources refer to CIA black ops in which unmarked U.S. aircraft and ships made unprovoked attacks on North Vietnam as part of "OPLAN 34". When the North fired back, it was reported as having come first. This was the background for the Gulf of Tonkin.
Prouty, who was a USAF focal point officer for CIA black ops further states that all military units in Vietnam were under Agency operational control until 1964.
In the final analysis, the CIA was the real architect of the Vietnam War.
Viet Nam had nothing to do with the northern communists trying to enslave the south? Because that's what happened when we left.

Why is it virtually no one ever wants to emigrate to the people's paradise's like Cuba, China, Viet Nam, N. Korea, etc.?

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The Incorrigible Axe

Los Angeles, CA

#887053 Apr 11, 2013
Not to get off topic, as if this ridiculously prolific thread has a topic, still...

I mean, Obama, for all his half-human heritage is essentially -- by his policies, weakness, arrogance, showmanship and douchebaggery -- just a nighur.

If people could just settle on that point, we could focus on how to save the nation from this sort of genetic ignorance.

(Cue the chimpouts...)
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887055 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Another distortion by oversimplification.
Perhaps a few extremists have made such statements, but it hardly reflects the view of mainstream liberals. So please don't put words in our mouths based on the comments of the outer fringe.
Or are you going to make the case that none of the millions of liberals in this country are married?
:)
The loud mouthed liberals get all the press, ordinary types get none.

It's all too ironic that for years conservatives who espoused couples getting married to have their children were called all kinds of nasty names and now those same critics are shreiking for gays[no biological kids possible] to be allowed to marry.

likely the irony escaped you.

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Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887057 Apr 11, 2013
DEATH wrote:
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In case you haven't noticed, Louis, you're next. You drew the short straw, apparently. Oh, and, I simply don't care about your footware. Those who know me know that unless you can kick over your head, and I know you can't, you're dead already. Check it out, people here know what I can do... except you. I fight for fun, not profit.
F off, ya little twerp.
Cway

United States

#887058 Apr 11, 2013
SapphireInBlue wrote:
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I remember when everyone thought the same thing about the Democratic Party.
Republicans were king of the hill for 12 years straight. Clinton won without a majority vote because Ross Perot took the lion's share from Bush Sr.
It's been going downhill ever since.
The Democrats are presently doing a pretty good job of destroying themselves from within and need no help either. If you don't think so now, wait until the reality of Obamacare sets in.
Yes, Perot's campaign hurt GHW Bush. So what? We had a similar problem with Ralph Nader in 2000.

I recall at the end of GHW Bush's term in 1993, we had a moderate recession in full swing. That marked the end of Reagan's economic "triumph". It was based on an unsustainable Cold War military build-up.

As for Clinton, he also left office with a moderate recession, but with a balanced budget and the least government spending in the years from 1981 to 2009.

The massive spending which has led us to the current crisis began with Reagan, was perpetuated by GHW, slowed down by Clinton, then ruinously revived by W.

Case closed.
Leadville Lou

Denver, CO

#887060 Apr 11, 2013
DEATH wrote:
Here's the thing, sweetie, maybe you can get a member of SEAL team 9 to don a fake mustache and sunglasses to testify in your favor. Otherwise, you're going to have to kiss me, and the Kiss of DEATH is invariably... fatal. Register. I dare you.
Professor Fartsack I presume
stepping out of the nut house gloom...
Fenris GOP Cliff Zombie

United States

#887061 Apr 11, 2013
Fenris the Big Bad Wolf wrote:
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You will just nod out again Pops, like always...
What do you mean "like always". There's never been. You want to keep it that way if you like staying healthy, cudgel boy.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#887062 Apr 11, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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That is exactly what the queers want, marriage is just a cover, an excuse. They want to force the rest of us with authority from the government to accept their deviant lifestyle with codification.
For 40 years libs have been telling us marriage is un necessary, outmoded, crap, irrelevant.
Homosexual, idiot, criminal, felon, deviant, pervert, pedophile, rapist, low IQ democrats, ignorant bigot and racist like RealDave. To RealDave they're his family members and friends all born with a deranged behavior according to RealDave...Homosexuals, criminals and deviants all with their deranged behavior and mental illness he wants to call normal..

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Fenris GOP Cliff Zombie

United States

#887064 Apr 11, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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The loud mouthed liberals get all the press, ordinary types get none.
It's all too ironic that for years conservatives who espoused couples getting married to have their children were called all kinds of nasty names and now those same critics are shreiking for gays[no biological kids possible] to be allowed to marry.
likely the irony escaped you.
Try not to stereotype the entire Democrat Party as a collection of radicals.

As for the press, it blows in both directions. Note how Bush and Cheney were given a free pass in the preceding months they hawked their BS War in Iraq to the public. Note how the administation used their assets in the press like Novak and Miller to take out Valerie Plame.

The press also praised the dictatorship of South Vietnam as a "democracy" during much of the Vietnam era. Hardly a liberal point of view.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#887067 Apr 11, 2013
The Slayer wrote:
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Oh Luke, this schtick is older and saggier than your empty ballsac ...
LOL.. YOU F*cking redneck mental phaggot hillbilly... A Millport Alabama idiot...

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Cway

United States

#887068 Apr 11, 2013
Fenris the Big Bad Wolf wrote:
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Dont get your panties in a wad, just yanking an old worm's chain. I prefer Thor; the Swedes were/are wimps....
Yeah, it figures you'd bow to a pagan god of war. Pagan gods are the favorites of uncouth savages. That's what your boy, Adolf, tried to replace Christianity with.

Think what you like about the Swedes, but that isn't the point.

The point is, Gustav II Adolf was a far more glorious ruler and far braver in combat than your idol, Adolf.

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DEATH

Chicago, IL

#887069 Apr 11, 2013
The Slayer wrote:
Jesus, not the obligatory "lmao" again? If you're at that stage, how far can "ROTFLMAO" be? And after that, after losing your ass, how far can DEATH be? Whistling in the dark, indeed ...
DEATH is not far. It is upstairs from me as I write this and it is horrible indeed. I just visited with it. To see the ones you love brought low by no more than time. Often the watchers remark, "Gee, you're up late." And I am... DEATH is. DEATH is not quick nor is he clean. He is a horrid ogre with accompanying sounds from another world. My last kiss is sweet in a way, but it's very final. Carol, I am engaged in death as we speak. I'm an expert in it. Tonight I'll take one soul, perhaps, hundreds, thousands. But to the people concerned it is the only death that matters. Memento Mori, my dear. I deal DEATH like a house of cards, which is to say, as if he were Mexican.

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No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#887070 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Yeah, it figures you'd bow to a pagan god of war. Pagan gods are the favorites of uncouth savages. That's what your boy, Adolf, tried to replace Christianity with.
Think what you like about the Swedes, but that isn't the point.
The point is, Gustav II Adolf was a far more glorious ruler and far braver in combat than your idol, Adolf.
These liberals oppose your belief and right to bear arms: Hitler, Castro, Stalin, Amin, Lenin, Mao, Chavez, Obama. Who do you trust dummy?

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DEATH

Chicago, IL

#887071 Apr 11, 2013
How amusing for DEATH to be chronicling death. A dozen feet away an old woman with many sins lays dying, gasping for air like a fish, gutted, eaten even, but without the perspective to realize she's dead. Judge not... there are pieces of wisdom in bibles, and there are droves of them, but nothing prepares you for DEATH does it, carol? There's no prayer, no blessing, no sermon that prepares you for the flying vomit and shit and suffering which accompanies leaving the world. Love you guys. God bless.

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SapphireInBlue

Orlando, FL

#887072 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Yes, Perot's campaign hurt GHW Bush. So what? We had a similar problem with Ralph Nader in 2000.
I recall at the end of GHW Bush's term in 1993, we had a moderate recession in full swing. That marked the end of Reagan's economic "triumph". It was based on an unsustainable Cold War military build-up.
As for Clinton, he also left office with a moderate recession, but with a balanced budget and the least government spending in the years from 1981 to 2009.
The massive spending which has led us to the current crisis began with Reagan, was perpetuated by GHW, slowed down by Clinton, then ruinously revived by W.
Case closed.
Clinton had a Republican-controlled Congress for 6 of his 8 year term.

That was the difference in his eventually moving to the center and signing legislation like the Welfare Reform Act.

Remember Clinton's State of the Union Address when he told the American public the era of big government was over?

He was more Republican than Democrat when compared to the radical liberal sitting in the White House now which, by the way, defies all logic in this parallel universe we now seem to be living.

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SapphireInBlue

Orlando, FL

#887073 Apr 11, 2013
Cal Tech, we are getting a front row seat to a chapter in history that could change everything we think we know in a heartbeat. Domestic and global turmoil is brewing and things are starting to heat up. It's not about whether I expect the worst to happen or not. It's about the economic and geopolitical climate in which we live and the uncertainty of not knowing which shoe will drop first.

The majority of Americans, 61%, believe we are going in the wrong direction. That many of us can't be wrong.

The unrest on the global front is concerning but it's like a pot boiling on the back burner. Right here at home, we are facing the very real possibility of reaching a point of no return if the dollar continues to lose its value or we can't stop the bleeding of job losses and out of control spending.

When some liberals pretend like none of this happening or scoffs at anyone who points out what should be the obvious, I feel compelled to remind them of the lessons of history and why we would be wise to learn from them.

The hunger for power can happen anywhere. History, if anything, teaches us that attempts to silence the opposition by using demoralizing and demonizing tactics and hate speech for the sole purpose of total control coupled with complacency by the majority will not have a good outcome.

We are at that same crossroads. So, yes, the worst can happen even here unless more Americans begin to wise up.

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Nat Turner

Angeles City, Philippines

#887076 Apr 11, 2013
Get your Guns and start shootin W Folks!
DEATH

Chicago, IL

#887077 Apr 11, 2013
I will be here at 2, 3, 4 in the morning because I'll need to clean the shit out of her bed, wash her body, tend to her untendable thirst. And you? You'll be telling me about how a mere teacher has no rights to a social contract with her society. Good luck with that, I need to go and wash my hands. When I am done with you, carol, you will be ashamed of yourself. Not for just being a whore that cowtows to men as if they were in any way an authority, but because you've forgotten your own essence, you silly cow. Heart-plucker, huh? I'm a killer, carol, I'm gonna take you with me. Excuse me, my loathsome teacher mother is screaming in pain. BRB

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Cway

United States

#887078 Apr 11, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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Viet Nam had nothing to do with the northern communists trying to enslave the south? Because that's what happened when we left.
Why is it virtually no one ever wants to emigrate to the people's paradise's like Cuba, China, Viet Nam, N. Korea, etc.?
First, your remark is somewhat irrelevant.

My post was a rebuttal to the claim that Wilson and FDR "got us into world wars", which is true, but you express this in a contemptuous manner inferring that there wasn't a good reason for them doing so.

Then there was EasyEed's statement that Kennedy and LBJ got us involved in Vietnam. This ignores the previous commitments of the Eisenhower administration along with extremely aggressive covert activities of the CIA which were intent on provoking a war.

Did you know that Vietnam was a single, undivided country until 1954? The splitting of the country into northern and southern halves was an agreement reached by the French and Vietminh parties at the Paris Peace Accords of the same year.

The purpose of the division was to allow French and Vietminh forces the opportunity to disengage and pull back to their respective territory. The French agreed to pull out.

There was also a provision within the accords which called for a reunification plebiscite in 1956 in the South, so that it could decide whether or not it wished to reunite with the North.

To make a long story short, the CIA put President Ngo Diem in power through rigged elections in 1954. Then with our blessing, he cancelled the 1956 Plebiscite. But Diem went further. "The Pentagon Papers" points out how Diem's secret police rounded up communists engaged in peaceful political activity and imprisoned them.

But the CIA went further. Before the ink was dry on the 1954 Paris Accords, the CIA set up shop in Vietnam and began running sabotage operations in the North.

The North did not react right away to these provocations. But in 1959, their leadership finally gave the green light to fight back against the Diem regime.

China and North Korea are vile dictatorships. Vietnam is far more benign, although the communists retain a monopoly on political power. Socialists nations like Venezuela and Nicaragua have democratic elections and are not totalitarian.

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DEATH

Chicago, IL

#887079 Apr 11, 2013
What's the worst that can happen, carol? Korea? The budget? Democrats? Wanna know what's the worst that can happen, carol? It's when someone you love dies in your arms. Gun control? No problem. Muslim radicalism? Kill 'em. Enjoy your life, carol. In the end you will see no one but me, and be aware, when you do, I'll remember your cavalier way with other people's lives. Asl Pastor bob about that... and then tell him to run for I am inconsolable.

Do NOT make the mistake of offering me your meaningless sympathy, for, be forewarned, I will offer you or you daughter none at all.

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