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Cway

United States

#887078 Apr 11, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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Viet Nam had nothing to do with the northern communists trying to enslave the south? Because that's what happened when we left.
Why is it virtually no one ever wants to emigrate to the people's paradise's like Cuba, China, Viet Nam, N. Korea, etc.?
First, your remark is somewhat irrelevant.

My post was a rebuttal to the claim that Wilson and FDR "got us into world wars", which is true, but you express this in a contemptuous manner inferring that there wasn't a good reason for them doing so.

Then there was EasyEed's statement that Kennedy and LBJ got us involved in Vietnam. This ignores the previous commitments of the Eisenhower administration along with extremely aggressive covert activities of the CIA which were intent on provoking a war.

Did you know that Vietnam was a single, undivided country until 1954? The splitting of the country into northern and southern halves was an agreement reached by the French and Vietminh parties at the Paris Peace Accords of the same year.

The purpose of the division was to allow French and Vietminh forces the opportunity to disengage and pull back to their respective territory. The French agreed to pull out.

There was also a provision within the accords which called for a reunification plebiscite in 1956 in the South, so that it could decide whether or not it wished to reunite with the North.

To make a long story short, the CIA put President Ngo Diem in power through rigged elections in 1954. Then with our blessing, he cancelled the 1956 Plebiscite. But Diem went further. "The Pentagon Papers" points out how Diem's secret police rounded up communists engaged in peaceful political activity and imprisoned them.

But the CIA went further. Before the ink was dry on the 1954 Paris Accords, the CIA set up shop in Vietnam and began running sabotage operations in the North.

The North did not react right away to these provocations. But in 1959, their leadership finally gave the green light to fight back against the Diem regime.

China and North Korea are vile dictatorships. Vietnam is far more benign, although the communists retain a monopoly on political power. Socialists nations like Venezuela and Nicaragua have democratic elections and are not totalitarian.

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DEATH

Chicago, IL

#887079 Apr 11, 2013
What's the worst that can happen, carol? Korea? The budget? Democrats? Wanna know what's the worst that can happen, carol? It's when someone you love dies in your arms. Gun control? No problem. Muslim radicalism? Kill 'em. Enjoy your life, carol. In the end you will see no one but me, and be aware, when you do, I'll remember your cavalier way with other people's lives. Asl Pastor bob about that... and then tell him to run for I am inconsolable.

Do NOT make the mistake of offering me your meaningless sympathy, for, be forewarned, I will offer you or you daughter none at all.

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DEATH

Chicago, IL

#887080 Apr 11, 2013
My mother is choking on her own vomit, I need to go and attend. See you guys later...

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Cway

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#887081 Apr 11, 2013
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Clinton had a Republican-controlled Congress for 6 of his 8 year term.
That was the difference in his eventually moving to the center and signing legislation like the Welfare Reform Act.
Remember Clinton's State of the Union Address when he told the American public the era of big government was over?
He was more Republican than Democrat when compared to the radical liberal sitting in the White House now which, by the way, defies all logic in this parallel universe we now seem to be living.
Yes, I'll agree the GOP Congress deserves credit for balancing the budget and keeping spending in check during Clinton's time in office.

But that raises the question... why were they so tight with Clinton while giving Reagan and both Bushes everything they wanted?

The answer is simple. Spending is what makes politicians popular. So GOP motives were based more on whittling down Clinton's chances for re-election and his legacy than anything else. Try to remember they went after him throughout the six years they held the majority, even impeaching him for lying about an extra-marital affair.

The same GOP which let GW Bush off the hook for launching a war of aggression based on lies.

Returning to the spending issue, the enormous deficits we have today started with Reagan, slowed greatly under Clinton, then went wild again under GW Bush.

The strength of a nation is greatly based on its wealth. Well, you Republicans are mostly to blame for the state we're in. You're only frugal when it hurts the political opposition.

To suggest the rot began under Clinton who added only 1.6 trillion to the natonal debt, compared to the 5.7 tallied by GW Bush is sheer nonsense, and you know better.

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DEATH

Chicago, IL

#887083 Apr 11, 2013
I AM DEATH INCARNATE RIGHT NOW SO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WRITE HERE. WHATEVER YOU IMPOSE ON ME I'LL IMPOSE ON SOME IDIOT INNOCENT TOMORROW. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM HURTING SOMEONE ELSE FOR WHAT OFFENSE YOU COMMIT ON ME. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM IN DESTROYING A NICE, FAT, AMERICAN FAMILY FOR THE SHEER HELL OF IT. I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S A KID FROM IOWA IN HIS FIRST COWBOY HAT OR SOME IDIOT ASSHOLE FROM OKLAHOMA. YOU SAY ONE WORD, AND I'LL UNLOAD ON THEM. NOW YOU CHOOSE. I'M BUSY, DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF IMAGINING I'M POWERLESS. IT'S ON YOUR HEADS.

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Cway

United States

#887084 Apr 11, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>These liberals oppose your belief and right to bear arms: Hitler, Castro, Stalin, Amin, Lenin, Mao, Chavez, Obama. Who do you trust dummy?
I fundamentally do not believe in gun control because such laws give the police unlimited opportunity to plant weapons and falsely convict. I also believe the 2nd Amendment does not allow government to disarm the people, although with some limits with regard to military ordenance.

I think the liberals are mostly interested in greater regulation of handguns, not firearms in general.

Comparing Obama and Chavez to Hitler is ridiculous. Bush, with his big lies, torture prisons, "pre-emptive war" and the Patriot Act is a much closer analogy.

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SapphireInBlue

Orlando, FL

#887086 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Yes, I'll agree the GOP Congress deserves credit for balancing the budget and keeping spending in check during Clinton's time in office.
But that raises the question... why were they so tight with Clinton while giving Reagan and both Bushes everything they wanted?
The answer is simple. Spending is what makes politicians popular. So GOP motives were based more on whittling down Clinton's chances for re-election and his legacy than anything else. Try to remember they went after him throughout the six years they held the majority, even impeaching him for lying about an extra-marital affair.
The same GOP which let GW Bush off the hook for launching a war of aggression based on lies.
Returning to the spending issue, the enormous deficits we have today started with Reagan, slowed greatly under Clinton, then went wild again under GW Bush.
The strength of a nation is greatly based on its wealth. Well, you Republicans are mostly to blame for the state we're in. You're only frugal when it hurts the political opposition.
To suggest the rot began under Clinton who added only 1.6 trillion to the natonal debt, compared to the 5.7 tallied by GW Bush is sheer nonsense, and you know better.
Reagan raised taxes to appease the Democrats who promised cuts in spending in return.

True to form, they backed down on their part of the bargain.

You can't forget 111 Democrats voted for the Iraq War. In fact, it was they who were lying to the American public when they said they were denied access to the same Intel. They, of course, were privy to the same Intel.

The economy was actually doing well under Bush's economic policies after 9/11 and before the housing bubble burst.

He can't be blamed for that when more Democrats resisted oversight of Fannie and Freddie for five years leading up to the crisis in spite of multiple warnings by both Bush and Bernancke.

It's where we are now that counts though. It's frankly not logical to blame Bush for increasing the deficit by a fraction of the present deficit increased by Obama and Congressional democrats.

But it's getting late, so goodnight.

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No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#887087 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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I fundamentally do not believe in gun control because such laws give the police unlimited opportunity to plant weapons and falsely convict. I also believe the 2nd Amendment does not allow government to disarm the people, although with some limits with regard to military ordenance.
I think the liberals are mostly interested in greater regulation of handguns, not firearms in general.
Comparing Obama and Chavez to Hitler is ridiculous. Bush, with his big lies, torture prisons, "pre-emptive war" and the Patriot Act is a much closer analogy.
Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and every single democrat voted and said Saddam was an eminent threat and Saddam had to be removed three years prior to 9/11...

Harry Reid Senate bill 1867, which passed the DemocRatic Senate with an alarming DemocRatic majority, signed by obama allows the military and Obama to arrest American citizens, keep them without trial, detain, and/or murder anti-government threats...

Obama: My administration does not torture. We kill..

The Jews gave up their guns, turned in their weapons, big and more government and Hitler took care of the Jews..

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Cway

United States

#887088 Apr 11, 2013
SapphireInBlue wrote:
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Reagan raised taxes to appease the Democrats who promised cuts in spending in return.
True to form, they backed down on their part of the bargain.
You can't forget 111 Democrats voted for the Iraq War. In fact, it was they who were lying to the American public when they said they were denied access to the same Intel. They, of course, were privy to the same Intel.
The economy was actually doing well under Bush's economic policies after 9/11 and before the housing bubble burst.
He can't be blamed for that when more Democrats resisted oversight of Fannie and Freddie for five years leading up to the crisis in spite of multiple warnings by both Bush and Bernancke.
It's where we are now that counts though. It's frankly not logical to blame Bush for increasing the deficit by a fraction of the present deficit increased by Obama and Congressional democrats.
But it's getting late, so goodnight.
Contrary to your claim above, Reagan reduced taxes.

Twice as many Republicans voted for the Iraq War than Democrats.

The Democrats were privy to the cherry-picked data coming out of the Pentagon's OSP which was created and run by Cheney.

The economy under Bush did somewhat well but was driven by an Alan Greenspan-created low-interest rate driven real estate bubble.

The real villain in the real estate bubble were the banks who made predatory loans because it was profitable, not because Dodd and Frank made them. These banks are now under indictment and some have been fined heavily.

I won't bother with the rest of your BS. In Carol La-La Land, Repubicans are perfect and never do anything wrong.

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Cway

Downey, CA

#887089 Apr 11, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text> Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and every single democrat voted and said Saddam was an eminent threat and Saddam had to be removed three years prior to 9/11...
The history of Iraq with regard to its obligation to disarm is mixed. In 1998, the UN inspectors were in doubt. In particular, Scott Ritter resigned in protest. But a year later, the tide began to turn. Ritter completely reversed his earlier verdict. By 2003, Hans Blix felt Iraq was in general compliance, with some unresolved issues he felt could be resolved within a few months.
Harry Reid Senate bill 1867, which passed the DemocRatic Senate with an alarming DemocRatic majority, signed by obama allows the military and Obama to arrest American citizens, keep them without trial, detain, and/or murder anti-government threats...
To be honest, 93 Senators signed off on the bill which means A LOT of Republicans voted for it, too. Obama has promised to veto it. There is another bill, HR 1540 (in the House) which is similar but has not been voted on.

I'm glad you brought this to my attention. It may well end my support for the Democrats. I hope you will take a similar stand with the GOP.
Obama: My administration does not torture. We kill..
The Jews gave up their guns, turned in their weapons, big and more government and Hitler took care of the Jews..
I think you're confusing the Armenians, who turned in their guns to the Turks, with the German Jews, who did not. The point you attempt to make here in rather clumsy fashion I do agree with.

As for the quote you provide, I believe it is this when stated in full:

"I was clear throughout this campaign and was clear throughout this transition that under my administration the United States does not torture," Obama said, when asked at the news conference whether he would continue the Bush administration's policy of harsh interrogation. "We will abide by the Geneva Conventions. We will uphold our highest ideals."

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Mmmmmmm

Chicago, IL

#887090 Apr 11, 2013
Isn't the quiet nice? Isn't the truth redundant? Carol.. carol... come with me... come visit DEATH with me... do it... do it now... g'head.... Even my best friends are scared of me, carol. They know, instinctively, what lies just beneath the surface. Do you, dear? Do you really...?

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Mmmmmmm

Chicago, IL

#887091 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Contrary to your claim above, Reagan redu
I told you to shut up but you seem.... dumbfounded. This is the last time I'll tell you. Get lost. Get lost, or hire someone smart. Dummy. Yeah, yeah, I know. You think you're smart. But what if I just kill you? What if I demonstrate conclusively you're an idiot? How would you feel about it all then? Oh well, You want to waste my time? Alright. I'm so bored...

You're not smart. You're not clever. You have nothing to say. Are you sure you want to engage with me? I'll destroy you. Is that what you want you want, you moron? Ok... whatever...(grumble)
Mmmmmmm

Chicago, IL

#887092 Apr 11, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Contrary to your claim above, Reagan reducea Land, Repubicans are perfect and never do anything wrong.
Zzzzzzzzz Reagan "increased" taxes. Duh. The reason we know this is because he was a moron. What else could he do? You people are stupid, WHY do you cling to imaginary scenarios? Just kill yourselves, it's better that way.

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Mmmmmmm

Chicago, IL

#887093 Apr 12, 2013
3 o'clock in the morning. I feel like George Bush junior painting his toes. I just scraped about a pound of shit out of my mother's ass and the first thing that popped into my mind was: Let's cut her Medicare benefits. Your turn, sweetie. Tell me all about how she didn't earn it. Whore. Enjoying this , carol? You've surely got a lot to say about what hubby told you, eh? You stoopid slut.

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Mmmmmmm

Chicago, IL

#887094 Apr 12, 2013
Carol? carol? You're coming with me. No one would deny me my prize at this point...

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PDUPONT

Northampton, MA

#887098 Apr 12, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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If a person has no marketable skill sets then they may have to work multiple menial jobs to make ends meet. It is not the employers responsibility to insure that their employee can make ends meet. That is the responsibility of the individual. Part of that responsibility is to attempt to make yourself marketable and take steps to keep skill sets current.
Not all jobs are worth minimum wage just as not all individuals are worth minimum wage.
Yeah, so you're an egocentric sociopath. We get it.

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PDUPONT

Northampton, MA

#887099 Apr 12, 2013
SapphireInBlue wrote:
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The French monarchy before the French Revolution never dreamt their heads would be poised under a guillotine. Until they were.
The Jews before the Holocaust never dreamt they would be stuffed into a gas chamber like sardines and gassed. Until they were.
No one ever expects the very worst to happen. Until it does.
Nowhere in your post did I read Beck saying anyting about beheadings.
Tensions are rising not only in this country but around the world. Being prepared for the worst is probably good advise.
Just my humble observation.
Change your "handle" again Carol?

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PDUPONT

Northampton, MA

#887100 Apr 12, 2013
SapphireInBlue wrote:
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Do some simple research. Start with tyrants who rose to power by taking away their citizens' guns.
This is why the Second Amendment is in our Constiution. To protect citizens from tyrants.
Imagine the Minutemen without guns. We'd still be paying taxes to Queen Elizabeth. To puts thing into a better perspective.
WRONG STUPID! The Second Amendment reads;
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Get that Carol? A well regulated militia. And who regulated the militia? The government. The idea was that citizens formed into military groups in time of peril were preferable to a standing army.
You're an idiot Carol!

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Since: May 11

Gettysburg, PA

#887101 Apr 12, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text> Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and every single democrat voted and said Saddam was an eminent threat and Saddam had to be removed three years prior to 9/11...
Harry Reid Senate bill 1867, which passed the DemocRatic Senate with an alarming DemocRatic majority, signed by obama allows the military and Obama to arrest American citizens, keep them without trial, detain, and/or murder anti-government threats...
Obama: My administration does not torture. We kill..
The Jews gave up their guns, turned in their weapons, big and more government and Hitler took care of the Jews..
Having an effort to remove Sadam is not calling for invasion & the deaths of over 4,000 soldiers. The US has caused the overthrow of numerous leaders without invading.

When will you right whiners quit defending Bush's lies to invade Iraq?

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Since: May 11

Gettysburg, PA

#887102 Apr 12, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>Homosexual, idiot, criminal, felon, deviant, pervert, pedophile, rapist, low IQ democrats, ignorant bigot and racist like RealDave. To RealDave they're his family members and friends all born with a deranged behavior according to RealDave...Homosexuals, criminals and deviants all with their deranged behavior and mental illness he wants to call normal..
I love how you right whiners include being homosexual with criminal behavior, deranged behavior & mental illness.

You just keep proving my pint about how the right coddles the racists & bigots & then you morons wonder why Hispanics, Blacks, & Gays won't vote for your candidates.

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