Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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If yo have nothing to discuss, go change some bedpans, jerk!!
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You are one of the biggest goons on this forum.
You make yourself look like a fool every day with your cut 'n paste propaganda
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"Nailed all my sins to the cross???" The Italians supposedly did this? Have you ever seen those people? Pasta barons, sure. Masons sometimes, but carpentry? I see the dear Lord left you one sin, huh? The sin of ignorance... oh, and greed too, I guess... sloth... war, pestilence, famine, whoredom in carol's case... So, um, which sins did the Guineas allegedly nail up there cause it looks like you've still got the whole contingent?
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carol wrote:
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Don't think the forefather envisioned Allah or Buddha in the founding documents before America became a melting pot.
Freedom and self-government was a concept thought possible only if people were governed by a higher source.
People were up until then controlled by government.
Happy Easter, RealDave.
The higher source is one and the same.

now try to find something to dispute that that isn't biased.

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"You're quite sure", based on what??

Your usual wishful thinking and adoration of the Alzheimers patient??

Or did you see part of Terri Schiavo in Reagan?? The brain dead part??
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Reagan actually had a lot of input into his speeches. But his quips and wit were from the hip, I'm quite sure.

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The system of coercive government that you promote in itself is the real problem.
Democracy is the modern version of "the divine right of kings": a scam designed to keep the elite in power, and rich, by getting the rubes to believe in the legitimacy of their own enslavement. Voting is the sleight-of-hand that provides an illusion of fairness for an inherently unfair system based on force and fraud.
The voting illusion hides an important truth: that using coercion against others is evil regardless of how many people may have voted for it.
Every lynch mob has a majority over its victim; Aryan Nazis outnumbered the Jews in Hitler's Germany ; whites in America outnumbered blacks when slavery was legal. "Majority rule" is a prescription for horror unless every person has the same clear and basic rights as every other, yet the natural tendency is for individual rights to be eroded as special interests push for ever-more encroachment on others.
America's created a republic instead of a pure democracy in order to ensure that most areas of life would be untouchable by the electorate, by the politicians, and by special interests. That was the idea, at least: create specific, limited, clearly-defined areas where government could operate, with everything else forbidden to government. The people themselves insisted on adding a Bill of Rights to strengthen this protection. Even with the government structured as a limited republic and with the Bill of Rights added, things eventually got out of hand, to a horrifying extent.
The basic principle here is that government power gets co-opted by special interests, even though the power in question is supposedly being used to protect all citizens’ liberty. Here is an obvious and example: You are a slave. There is unrest among the slaves, and to calm things down, your masters, confident that most slaves have been propagandized into fearing freedom, decide to hold a vote.
Please vote for one of the following, or abstain:
- Keep me enslaved.
- Release me from bondage.
Go ahead vote.
So how is advocating for gay marriage promoting coercive government?

You're the ones telling people they can't marry.

Which party panders to the wealthy? Republicans.

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Having a little breakdown there, Ed??

Who are you addressing in your post? You seem confused again. Forget your meds??

Give it up, oldtimer. That was a crazy screed, even for you.
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You are a sicko!!! Sorry "silly". You get your lovin' on Topix? Well at least you are happy? Satisfied? Doubtful.
Peace
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Check you facts Lamo. You may want to read the post if you can.
You're Hitler argument has been debunked over & over.
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Well, there's that thorny (pardon the easter pun) genocide issue again, isn't it. "America's "real" God was called various things by "the Founders," Great Spirit, Buffalo Woman, various foody names, and she wasn't Jewish either. The blind spot christians wrestle with, and they tried hard to deal with it during the Imperial phase by simply marking time itself in the West from the supposed creation of their silly myth, is that they were literally millions of people in all the places they "founded" thousands of years before they arrived and slaughtered them. It seems to me you're on pretty shaky ground when you bring up the supposed theological underpinnings of a few dozen white guys who helped steal the land and the truth from the actual owners.

You remember the beads for Manhattan story, right? It's in alllll the "history" books. It's there as an example of what a good deal looks like, like my new rocking chair, for instance. It's the forula for "success" in a christian nation so it's taught to 1st graders. That's all christianity is, a good deal. You can be a total asshole, killer, ignorant clown right up til the last moment and then, "poof," you're good to go, fool!

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carol wrote:
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Don't think the forefather envisioned Allah or Buddha in the founding documents before America became a melting pot.
Freedom and self-government was a concept thought possible only if people were governed by a higher source.
People were up until then controlled by government.
Happy Easter, RealDave.
They could have said "God", "our God, "our creator".

They you "your creator".
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AFF wrote:
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The system of coercive government that you promote in itself is the real problem.
Democracy is the modern version of "the divine right of kings": a scam designed to keep the elite in power, and rich, by getting the rubes to believe in the legitimacy of their own enslavement. Voting is the sleight-of-hand that provides an illusion of fairness for an inherently unfair system based on force and fraud.
The voting illusion hides an important truth: that using coercion against others is evil regardless of how many people may have voted for it.
Every lynch mob has a majority over its victim; Aryan Nazis outnumbered the Jews in Hitler's Germany ; whites in America outnumbered blacks when slavery was legal. "Majority rule" is a prescription for horror unless every person has the same clear and basic rights as every other, yet the natural tendency is for individual rights to be eroded as special interests push for ever-more encroachment on others.
America's created a republic instead of a pure democracy in order to ensure that most areas of life would be untouchable by the electorate, by the politicians, and by special interests. That was the idea, at least: create specific, limited, clearly-defined areas where government could operate, with everything else forbidden to government. The people themselves insisted on adding a Bill of Rights to strengthen this protection. Even with the government structured as a limited republic and with the Bill of Rights added, things eventually got out of hand, to a horrifying extent.
The basic principle here is that government power gets co-opted by special interests, even though the power in question is supposedly being used to protect all citizens’ liberty. Here is an obvious and example: You are a slave. There is unrest among the slaves, and to calm things down, your masters, confident that most slaves have been propagandized into fearing freedom, decide to hold a vote.
Please vote for one of the following, or abstain:
- Keep me enslaved.
- Release me from bondage.
Go ahead vote.
I agree mostly with your assertion, but I believe this democracy works until a situation like a black president arises. When one set or group of people read & are taught historically that things are made to go their way, well we see the outcome! This has nothing to do with race & more to do with politics & elitism & the need for a scapegoat. The change in Americas demographics had brought out the ugliness in alot of people once hidden by entitlement. These people hate the president because he is a symbol, reminder, & representation of that change. But his job is no different than any other president of the past. Now why do you think they hate Barack Obama's guts, but defend George Bush's hide so vigorously? This country made strides in the direction of good for decades in the name of democracy. It only turned into a republic when the symbol of change in the form of a black president was elected! What they don't realize is thus change was already happening before he was elected, that's why he was elected!
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In the same way that "America" is not a "christian" country, neither is this thread a "christian" thread. IT IS A POLITICAL THREAD, SEE THE TITLE? So let's change the tone a little, shall we? Welcome to, "Thank god the guineas killed that goddam jew, imagine what a pain in the ass he would've been if left alive." And then act accordingly.
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The higher source is one and the same.
now try to find something to dispute that that isn't biased.
When pigs fly, maybe?

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But was America founded on Christian principles? Just read the first words of the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
From the beginning, America's founders accepted the reality that basic rights were inseparable from human beings and they recognized that those inalienable rights were not given by government nor acquired by force, but that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are the gifts of the Creator.
In 1844, the Court said, "Christianity is part of our common law."
In 1892, the Supreme Court said this: "No purpose of action against religion can be imputed to any legislation, state or national because this is a religious people. This is historically true."
In 1930, the U.S. Supreme Court said this: "We are a Christian people, according to our motto."
In 1952, the U.S. Supreme Court said, "We are a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being.
The question isn't - Was America founded on Christian principles? The question is - what world view has given birth to and sustained America? The answer to that question is simple: Christianity.
http://www.aproundtable.org/issues.cfm...
Treaty of Tripoli

Article 11 reads:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

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"Hey, Jesus, here's fifteen dollars, go get us some mango muffins and double espressos would you? No, "I'm not the boss of you" but my boss is.... What? NO! I don't work for Castro, don't be silly!... No, really, I'll shoot you if you don't go get coffee..."

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<quoted text> Okay, let me be frank! There is no Christian values or Muslim values or any other values. The concept alone is racist! To say this country was formed based on one persons values atop anothers is first false & second ignorant. I'm sure you've all seen roots. The slaves on the ships were praying to Allah. But I guess because they were slaves their religious beliefs didn't matter in the shapings of this country! That's the whole purpose of democracy. So the majority doesn't dominate & undermine the minority! On topic enuff for ?
No, it isn't racist. You can't change your race and nobody is "born" a Christian or Muslim.

I'm a minority now and I won't hold my breath waiting for the new majority to show me the same compassion that my peers have shown them.
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As sheriffs across the nation signal opposition to enforcing additional federal gun regulations, the Utah Sheriffs' Association sent a letter to President Obama assuring him that its members similarly will not comply.

The letters insists that the rights of Utah citizens trump any new gun control measure that Congress might pass, and sheriffs in Utah are prepared to trade their lives in defense of their constituents' right to keep and bear arms.

The letter, signed by 28 of Utah's 29 sheriffs, sternly rejects the citation of recent tragedies as Congress's rationale for expanded gun regulations:

With the number of mass shootings America has endured, it is easy to demonize firearms; it is also foolish and prejudiced. Firearms are nothing more than instruments, valuable and potentially dangerous, but instruments nonetheless. Malevolent souls, like the criminals who commit mass murders, will always exploit valuable instruments in the pursuit of evil. As professional peace officers, if we understand nothing else we understand this: lawful violence must sometimes be employed to deter and stop criminal violence. Consequently, the citizenry must continue its ability to keep and bear arms, including arms that adequately protect from all kinds of illegality.[original emphasis]

...as the duly elected sheriffs of our respective counties, we will enforce the rights guaranteed to our citizens by the Constitution. No federal official will be permitted to descend on our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights--in particularly Amendment II--has given them. We, like you [Mr. President], swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation.

Rich County Sheriff Dale Stacey was among the 28 signatories on the letter, and on March 27 he spoke to Breitbart News:

The Sandy Hook shooting was terrible and we, in law enforcement, work to stop those kinds of things from happening. But taking guns from honest people isn't going to fix anything. The criminals will keep their guns, and regardless of what the law says criminals will always have guns.

I've owned a gun for 40 years and I've never committed a crime with it. What good can be done by taking it away from me?

We believe that if we do not uphold the oaths we have taken as Sheriffs we will gradually lose all our rights.

In recent legislative talks, a ban on so-called "assault weapons" from Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) did not make it out of committee. It is expected to receive a separate vote as an amendment to as-yet-unseen gun control legislation from Senate Democrats.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...

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So how is advocating for gay marriage promoting coercive government?
You're the ones telling people they can't marry.
Which party panders to the wealthy? Republicans.
Yeah, right. That must be the reason Obama broke the record of being the quickest POTUS ever to provide corporate welfare after his election to office. I've never seen a president so quick to break so many campaign promises.

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Do ya right whiners EVER quit blaming Obama for the effects of the Bush recession.
Whenever you freaking bozos quit doing that, I'll quit reminding you.
Davey Boie, when you start blaming Barney(My Boie Lollipop)Frank, for the S & L debacle which was the major cause of the recession, I'll quit calling you on it...

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<quoted text> Does Baal even exist in other religions? Did Baal even exist in the old testament (Torah)? You have good & bad in you. Hence my skin is my sin. I wouldn't give 2 shits what my neighbors religious preference is. I don't have to associate with them in the least bit, but if we were to go off of what you & I know about Baal, he self proclaims to be evil, opposite of the whole purpose of religion so your rebuttal is mute. As I stated," its not the object or messenger we should focus on, but the message!
The Carthaginian followers of Ba'al sacrificed their children by throwing them into fire.(2 Kings 10:27-28)

" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal" ;

But I suspect the smell of flesh burnt at an altar wouldn't bother you any more than the stench coming from an abortion clinic's incinerator.

YOUR "message" is nothing more than gibberish.
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"You're quite sure", based on what??
Your usual wishful thinking and adoration of the Alzheimers patient??
Or did you see part of Terri Schiavo in Reagan?? The brain dead part??
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Nuculur What a cheap shot!! But Reagan did produce 25 yrs. of Economic growth using only a Third of his Brain Power while Obama at Full Throttle has produce Historic Debt/Deficit!! So how many Liberals does it take to screw in a Light Bulb?

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