Barack Obama, our next President

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Albuquerque Slim

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<quoted text> Did you even read my post or are you just blurting out unconscious thoughts like someone who suffers from Tourette syndrome?
Friendly fire between lovers?
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Shut up, clown. You know nothing you southern scum.
South Florida is New York, not "the South"
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The percentage of conservative professors pales in comparison to the percentage of liberal professors on college campuses.
One of the reasons for this is professors have to "publish or perish" and most educational journals lean left. The liberal professors are published. Conservative professors are virtually left out. Students then read these publications and the cycle continues.
All one has to do is look at the Colorado professor who was in the news a few years ago who lost his tenure after much controversy surrounding his radical teaching methods and his comments about 9/11.
He was not the exception but the norm.
i just read his essay. very thought provoking.....

"Patriotism," a wise man once observed, "is the last refuge of scoundrels."

And the braided, he might of added.

Braided Scoundrel-in-Chief, George Junior, lacking even the sense to be careful what he wished for, has teamed up with a gaggle of fundamentalist Christian clerics like Billy Graham to proclaim a "New Crusade" called "Infinite Justice" aimed at "ridding the world of evil."

One could easily make light of such rhetoric, remarking upon how unseemly it is for a son to threaten his father in such fashion or a president to so publicly contemplate the murder/suicide of himself and his cabinet but the matter is deadly serious.

They are preparing once again to sally forth for the purpose of roasting brown-skinned children by the scores of thousands. Already, the B-1 bombers and the aircraft carriers and the missile frigates are en route, the airborne divisions are gearing up to go.

To where? Afghanistan?

The Sudan?

Iraq, again (or still)?

How about Grenada (that was fun)?

Any of them or all. It doesn't matter.

The desire to pummel the helpless runs rabid as ever.

Only, this time it's different.

This time the helpless aren't, or at least are not so helpless as they were.

This time, somewhere, perhaps in an Afghani mountain cave, possibly in a Brooklyn basement, maybe another local altogether but somewhere, all the same there's a grim-visaged (wo)man wearing a Clint Eastwood smile.

"Go ahead, punks," s/he's saying, "Make my day."

And when they do, when they launch these airstrikes abroad or may a little later; it will be at a time conforming to the "terrorists"' own schedule, and at a place of their choosing the next more intensive dose of medicine administered here "at home."

Of what will it consist this time? Anthrax? Mustard gas? Sarin? A tactical nuclear device?

That, too, is their choice to make.

Looking back, it will seem to future generations inexplicable why Americans were unable on their own, and in time to save themselves, to accept a rule of nature so basic that it could be mouthed by an actor, Lawrence Fishburn, in a movie, The Cotton Club.

"You've got to learn, " the line went, "that when you push people around, some people push back."

As they should.

As they must.

And as they undoubtedly will.

There is justice in such symmetry.

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The problem with Fox News is that its commentary is too often factually inaccurate and intellectually dishonest. There are notable exceptions: Just as there are a few people doing great work on MSNBC, Fox News has Erick Erickson's frequently smart commentary to make up for its months of inane Sarah Palin blathering, and Kirsten Powers to inject a semblance of fact-based sanity into Bill O'Reilly's cavalcade of gruff rants.
There are some other folks doing good work too, but they're overshadowed by inanity that overflows from the archives of The Daily Show, which has won multiple Emmys showing a generation that Fox News is rife with bullshit and that trying to defend it by saying it's no worse than CNN and MSNBC is like defending Parliaments by saying they're no more unhealthy than Marlboros.
"What Ailes and his backer Rupert Murdoch did was to find an underserved niche of the news market," Tobin concludes. "Only in this case that niche is made up of approximately half of the American people." Sounds like Fox News math to me. As I figure it, the United States has about 313 million people, and Fox News averages about 3 million viewers in prime time, so evidently the niche is somewhat smaller than half of the American people.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...
The Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism in its State of the News Media: An Annual Report on American Journalism, Pew details, among other interesting tidbits, the percentages of news reporting and opinion on the three biggest cable news channels. According to the study, the breakdown of MSNBC shows that a whopping 85 percent of its airtime is taken up with opinion, compared to 55 percent of the time on Fox and 45 percent of CNN's air.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...

All cable channels can be criticized for injecting some degree of bias depending on the issues. Fox is the only one singled out when, in fact, Fox and CNN aren't that far apart when it comes to opinion versus reporting.
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The old adage says "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear", meaning that you cannot make a good quality product using bad quality materials.
A southerner would know about that, wouldn't he? It's really embarrassing that you people are part of the country at all. Maybe we should kill you? Want that? Clowns. I've always contended that Gen'l Sherman didn't finish the job... You need your guns, honey. The fact is that sooner or later we're going to have to kill you. You're too stupid to leave alive.
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ADDENDUM

The preceding was a "first take" reading, more a stream-of-consciousness interpretive reaction to the September 11 counterattack than a finished piece on the topic. Hence, I'll readily admit that I've been far less than thorough, and quite likely wrong about a number of things.

For instance, it may not have been (only) the ghosts of Iraqi children who made their appearance that day. It could as easily have been some or all of their butchered Palestinian cousins.

Or maybe it was some or all of the at least 3.2 million Indochinese who perished as a result of America's sustained and genocidal assault on Southeast Asia (1959-1975), not to mention the millions more who've died because of the sanctions imposed thereafter.

Perhaps there were a few of the Korean civilians massacred by US troops at places like No Gun Ri during the early 50s, or the hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians ruthlessly incinerated in the ghastly fire raids of World War II (only at Dresden did America bomb Germany in a similar manner).

And, of course, it could have been those vaporized in the militarily pointless nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

There are others, as well, a vast and silent queue of faceless victims, stretching from the million-odd Filipinos slaughtered during America's "Indian War" in their islands at the beginning of the twentieth century, through the real Indians, America's own, massacred wholesale at places like Horseshoe Bend and the Bad Axe, Sand Creek and Wounded Knee, the Washita, Bear River, and the Marias.

Was it those who expired along the Cherokee Trial of Tears of the Long Walk of the Navajo?

Those murdered by smallpox at Fort Clark in 1836?

Starved to death in the concentration camp at Bosque Redondo during the 1860s?

Maybe those native people claimed for scalp bounty in all 48 of the continental US states? Or the Raritans whose severed heads were kicked for sport along the streets of what was then called New Amsterdam, at the very site where the WTC once stood?

One hears, too, the whispers of those lost on the Middle Passage, and of those whose very flesh was sold in the slave market outside the human kennel from whence Wall Street takes its name. And of coolie laborers, imported by the gross-dozen to lay the tracks of empire across scorching desert sands, none of them allotted "a Chinaman's chance" of surviving.

The list is too long, too awful to go on.

No matter what its eventual fate, America will have gotten off very, very cheap.

The full measure of its guilt can never be fully balanced or atoned for.

http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churc...
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You know what? Killing a southerner isn't really a problem, it's just past due. I like to kill their kids. I like to hear them scream. AAAAAAAAAAAaaa---....... it's sooo enjoyable... c'mon, honeys... play with me....
Albuquerque Slim

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ADDENDUM
The preceding was a "first take" reading, more a stream-of-consciousness interpretive reaction to the September 11 counterattack than a finished piece on the topic. Hence, I'll readily admit that I've been far less than thorough, and quite likely wrong about a number of things.
For instance, it may not have been (only) the ghosts of Iraqi children who made their appearance that day. It could as easily have been some or all of their butchered Palestinian cousins.
Or maybe it was some or all of the at least 3.2 million Indochinese who perished as a result of America's sustained and genocidal assault on Southeast Asia (1959-1975), not to mention the millions more who've died because of the sanctions imposed thereafter.
Perhaps there were a few of the Korean civilians massacred by US troops at places like No Gun Ri during the early 50s, or the hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians ruthlessly incinerated in the ghastly fire raids of World War II (only at Dresden did America bomb Germany in a similar manner).
And, of course, it could have been those vaporized in the militarily pointless nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
There are others, as well, a vast and silent queue of faceless victims, stretching from the million-odd Filipinos slaughtered during America's "Indian War" in their islands at the beginning of the twentieth century, through the real Indians, America's own, massacred wholesale at places like Horseshoe Bend and the Bad Axe, Sand Creek and Wounded Knee, the Washita, Bear River, and the Marias.
Was it those who expired along the Cherokee Trial of Tears of the Long Walk of the Navajo?
Those murdered by smallpox at Fort Clark in 1836?
Starved to death in the concentration camp at Bosque Redondo during the 1860s?
Maybe those native people claimed for scalp bounty in all 48 of the continental US states? Or the Raritans whose severed heads were kicked for sport along the streets of what was then called New Amsterdam, at the very site where the WTC once stood?
One hears, too, the whispers of those lost on the Middle Passage, and of those whose very flesh was sold in the slave market outside the human kennel from whence Wall Street takes its name. And of coolie laborers, imported by the gross-dozen to lay the tracks of empire across scorching desert sands, none of them allotted "a Chinaman's chance" of surviving.
The list is too long, too awful to go on.
No matter what its eventual fate, America will have gotten off very, very cheap.
The full measure of its guilt can never be fully balanced or atoned for.
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churc...
Sounds like the Democrat party platform.
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I give up. No one will ever believe me....
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carol wrote:
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The Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism in its State of the News Media: An Annual Report on American Journalism, Pew details, among other interesting tidbits, the percentages of news reporting and opinion on the three biggest cable news channels. According to the study, the breakdown of MSNBC shows that a whopping 85 percent of its airtime is taken up with opinion, compared to 55 percent of the time on Fox and 45 percent of CNN's air.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...
All cable channels can be criticized for injecting some degree of bias depending on the issues. Fox is the only one singled out when, in fact, Fox and CNN aren't that far apart when it comes to opinion versus reporting.
NBC will call an opinion an opinion.

FOX will say an opinion is fact. those same opinions that you call reporting.

your shtick impresses me not one iota. you yourself show up here touting opinion as fact even after it's been debunked on countless occasions. if you want to try to impress with your 'knowledge' of the 'facts', i suggest you find some new facts to work with.
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Hi, honey. I believe you... trust me.
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carol, sweetie, I'm going to sit alongside you forever. Bank on it. dear..
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i just read his essay. very thought provoking.....
"Patriotism," a wise man once observed, "is the last refuge of scoundrels."
And the braided, he might of added.
Braided Scoundrel-in-Chief, George Junior, lacking even the sense to be careful what he wished for, has teamed up with a gaggle of fundamentalist Christian clerics like Billy Graham to proclaim a "New Crusade" called "Infinite Justice" aimed at "ridding the world of evil."
One could easily make light of such rhetoric, remarking upon how unseemly it is for a son to threaten his father in such fashion or a president to so publicly contemplate the murder/suicide of himself and his cabinet but the matter is deadly serious.
They are preparing once again to sally forth for the purpose of roasting brown-skinned children by the scores of thousands. Already, the B-1 bombers and the aircraft carriers and the missile frigates are en route, the airborne divisions are gearing up to go.
To where? Afghanistan?
The Sudan?
Iraq, again (or still)?
How about Grenada (that was fun)?
Any of them or all. It doesn't matter.
The desire to pummel the helpless runs rabid as ever.
Only, this time it's different.
This time the helpless aren't, or at least are not so helpless as they were.
This time, somewhere, perhaps in an Afghani mountain cave, possibly in a Brooklyn basement, maybe another local altogether but somewhere, all the same there's a grim-visaged (wo)man wearing a Clint Eastwood smile.
"Go ahead, punks," s/he's saying, "Make my day."
And when they do, when they launch these airstrikes abroad or may a little later; it will be at a time conforming to the "terrorists"' own schedule, and at a place of their choosing the next more intensive dose of medicine administered here "at home."
Of what will it consist this time? Anthrax? Mustard gas? Sarin? A tactical nuclear device?
That, too, is their choice to make.
Looking back, it will seem to future generations inexplicable why Americans were unable on their own, and in time to save themselves, to accept a rule of nature so basic that it could be mouthed by an actor, Lawrence Fishburn, in a movie, The Cotton Club.
"You've got to learn, " the line went, "that when you push people around, some people push back."
As they should.
As they must.
And as they undoubtedly will.
There is justice in such symmetry.
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churc...
Thought provoking if you think America has done more evil in the world than good.

You must not have read the whole thing.

There are things we've done under the wrong leadership which disturbs me greatly since our beginnings.

But we have done far more good.

The Afghanis loved us when we helped them run off the Russians.

The Kuwaitis loved us when we ran off Saddam and his thugs.

What happened in Iraq with the severe sanctions under Clinton and Albright which reportedly caused thousands of children to starve is good reason for them to seek revenge.

But Saddam committing mass genocide and mass graves discovered all over Iraq or killing over 5000 Kurds, mostely women and dchildren, with chemical weapons goes completely unnoticed.

It also proves sanctions against evil tyrants only hurt the innocents under their iron fist. These regimes have all kinds of money and no qualms about their own people starving.

Where in Ward's essay does he condemn the evil which led to those sanctions in the first place?

It all goes back to the real source of evil which Ward convienently in his liberal haze refuses to acknowledge.

How ironic the Trail of Tears was ordered by Andrew Jackson, a Democrat.

And how ironic the atomic bombs dropped on Japan and the fire bombings in Germany were ordered by Harry Truman, a Democrat.

And how ironic the Vietnam War was accelerated by Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat.

Maybe Ward should have written another essay without his liberal blinders on.
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carol, you're weak. you're weak because you're stupid. It's not brain surgery.
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sonicfilter wrote:
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NBC will call an opinion an opinion.
FOX will say an opinion is fact. those same opinions that you call reporting.
your shtick impresses me not one iota. you yourself show up here touting opinion as fact even after it's been debunked on countless occasions. if you want to try to impress with your 'knowledge' of the 'facts', i suggest you find some new facts to work with.
NBC is a News channel, not news commentary. Fox is both, half and half.
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Well, anyway, I'm tired now.
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carol wrote:
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NBC is a News channel, not news commentary. Fox is both, half and half.
You're weak, carol. What's the point?
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Yes, I understand. You're tired. But, um, do you understand, honey? In a few days it'll just be you and me. Us, if you will. In a few days you'll be the enemy. How will you deal with us then? i'll eat you, carol. It's what I do. Were you in some question, whore?

you're "tired
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carol wrote:
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Thought provoking if you think America has done more evil in the world than good.
You must not have read the whole thing.
i read the whole thing. evidently you didn't.

When queried by reporters concerning his views on the assassination of John F. Kennedy in November 1963, Malcolm X famously and quite charitably, all things considered replied that it was merely a case of "chickens coming home to roost."

On the morning of September 11, 2001, a few more chickens along with some half-million dead Iraqi children came home to roost in a very big way at the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center. Well, actually, a few of them seem to have nestled in at the Pentagon as well.

The Iraqi youngsters, all of them under 12, died as a predictable in fact, widely predicted result of the 1991 US "surgical" bombing of their country's water purification and sewage facilities, as well as other "infrastructural" targets upon which Iraq's civilian population depends for its very survival.

If the nature of the bombing were not already bad enough and it should be noted that this sort of "aerial warfare" constitutes a Class I Crime Against humanity, entailing myriad gross violations of international law, as well as every conceivable standard of "civilized" behavior the death toll has been steadily ratcheted up by US-imposed sanctions for a full decade now. Enforced all the while by a massive military presence and periodic bombing raids, the embargo has greatly impaired the victims' ability to import the nutrients, medicines and other materials necessary to saving the lives of even their toddlers.

All told, Iraq has a population of about 18 million. The 500,000 kids lost to date thus represent something on the order of 25 percent of their age group. Indisputably, the rest have suffered are still suffering a combination of physical debilitation and psychological trauma severe enough to prevent their ever fully recovering. In effect, an entire generation has been obliterated.

The reason for this holocaust was/is rather simple, and stated quite straightforwardly by President George Bush, the 41st "freedom-loving" father of the freedom-lover currently filling the Oval Office, George the 43rd: "The world must learn that what we say, goes," intoned George the Elder to the enthusiastic applause of freedom-loving Americans everywhere.

http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churc...
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So, um, carol's dead. Who's next?

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