Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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John Galt

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The Slayer wrote:
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I forget the Generals name....but he was saying that
for years the armed forces have had women in very important
roles such as nurses and other such very skilled roles.
His concern was that if the Armed Forces start to
become more and more of a unpleasant experience for
women, they will then have a hard time in recruiting
women into the armed forces.
That and I guess I just a little bit of the old school way
of thinking......Men fight the wars to keep the Women
and children safe....I see no reason to change that.
I think we are traveling a dangerous road when our leaders
want to push Women more and more into combat roles.
There is plenty of opportunities for Women in the Armed Forses
with out them jumping into enemy fox holes and slugging it
out with enemy soldiers.
Sometimes ya gotta learn difficult lessons the hard way, and women in combat will.
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<quoted text>"Modern Scholars of Antiquity"??? Not really an oxymoron, I guess, more like whorish virgins..."Most scholars who have worked on the historicity of Jesus are Christian, and thus have vested theological, psychological, and perhaps monetary reasons to conclude that he existed.
Short answer: The evidence shows that Jesus is just a mythical character and never existed.
For Jesus-believers, here's the long answer (with evidence), which is needed to cover all bases:
All reliable evidence points to Jesus Christ being just a myth. There is no reliable evidence that Jesus even existed, and significant evidence that he didn't. The evidence is in the Bible, the other religions of the time, the lack of writings about Jesus by historians of the 1st century, and the lack of writings about Jesus by anyone until a decade or more after his supposed life ended.
The story of Jesus can be shown to be just a myth created to fulfill prophesy, cobbled together out of stories from the Old Testament and previous gods and myths -- created in the 40's and 50's by Paul of Tarsus (who exhibited symptoms of epilepsy and had delusions of Christ talking to him), the other apostles, the unknown authors of the gospels in the 70's or later, and many other people. The reliable evidence for this is overwhelming.
Paul and the other epistle writers don't know any biographical details of Jesus' life, or even the time of his earthly existence. They don't refer to Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee, Calvary or Golgotha or any pilgrimages to what should have been holy sites of Jesus' life. They also don't mention any miracles that Jesus was supposed to have worked, his virgin birth, his trial, the empty tomb, or his moral teachings. To them Jesus was largely a sky-god, who existed in the spiritual past..."
But what the hey, dumb carol, believe 'em if ya' got 'em.
Guess those early Christians who were eaten by wild animals in 64 A.D. were pretty gullible. Let's see, that would be the equivalent of today compared to 1949.

It's like being fooled about Hitler. I mean, it WAS 64 years ago!

Then there's Constantine the Great, that Roman Emperor who first converted to Christianity. He sure must have been a chump to believe all that love and compassion stuff, granting tolerance to Christians and restoring their property seized during previous persecutions.

And what about that 1st century historian, Flavius Josephus...what a goofball he was writing about Jesus and the origins of Christianity!

Sheesh...what a bunch of morons, huh, leosnana?
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Well, to be fair, there was some of that lion-feeding thing going on, particularly at the end, but it really didn't lend itself to an arena spectacle and it hardly was limited to the christian cult. I mean the first throat he rips out pretty much is lunch and he and his mates or she and her sisters, will settle in for a meal. Onlookers complained that there were knots of prisoners relatively unscathed and milling about at these things while the lions would roll over and put their feet in the air after killing just a few of them. The Romans, ever with an eye to business had to use archers and spear-chuckers to finish the rest off. But slaughtering people all day for a month is a messy business, and, what with no real sanitation and bodies piling up in the streets, Romans came to prefer more... pedestrian pursuits. The Roman version of NASCAR or sea battles with galleys rowing around firing arrows at one another. But the main thing, carol, is that the Fall of the Roman Empire, a 300 year fall as it happened, was a direct result of too few having too much and severe environtmental degradation, plain as that. Everybody else wanted their stuff but the Romans wanted to keep it. the battle o' tiny brained one, was not between the Romans and the "christians," it was between the rich and the poor, which is what some of the poor were at that time. Rome died of civil wars not religious ones. As Galt says, you people were just in the way... much like now.
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leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>Have you tried your bigoted BS on Israel? They've been drafting everybody for ever, and I don't think they're considered over-aged cub scouts last I heard. Besides, get with the century--I think I can score more kills with my little drone than that machismo jarhead with all the upper body strength that doesn't include his head.
That's a video game, not combat. One doesn't even need to be in the military to do that. Good job for paraplegics and senior citizens.

Make up your mind about the role women should play.

By the way, once in the military, one doesn't get to choose whether to go into combat or not.
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A lot of high schoolers who can't find decent paying jobs because computers or robots do them now find themselves with no other choice but to go to school to put off the inevitable - working at McDonalds.
Sad but true.
Listen to what you just said and realize how ridiculous it is.

Burger flippers with community college credits.
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<quoted text>Only in a few zip codes Carol__quit with the COG bible school drama eh?
Let's say you had to deny something that you know for a fact happened right before you were born or you'd be fed to the lions.

No one would choose to die a horrible death if they just had to deny something they knew to be true.

I'd deny just about anything before being fed to the lions. Except my faith.

Some truths are worth dying for.
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carol wrote:
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Guess those early Christians who were eaten by wild animals in 64 A.D. were pretty gullible. Let's see, that would be the equivalent of today compared to 1949.
It's like being fooled about Hitler. I mean, it WAS 64 years ago!
Then there's Constantine the Great, that Roman Emperor who first converted to Christianity. He sure must have been a chump to believe all that love and compassion stuff, granting tolerance to Christians and restoring their property seized during previous persecutions.
And what about that 1st century historian, Flavius Josephus...what a goofball he was writing about Jesus and the origins of Christianity!
Sheesh...what a bunch of morons, huh, leosnana?
Well, not 'morons' precisely, more like... opportunists. Like the "Saints" of today in our country, they saw the need in the eyes of the people for relief and change and they just chose what seemed as the most useful means to gin up some support for some form of that. Nothing that poor people love more than having someone poorer than them to look down on. Have you ever read Flavius, my dear? In Latin? Does he seem... "mainstream" to you?

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Galt lied when he said liberals want everyone to go to college.
Liberals want kids to all have the opportunity to go to college or other forms of higher education such as trade schools.
Since the Republicans insist on killing the labor unions that used to take these kids & teach them through apprenticeship, they need to go to trade schools & hopefully find employers who will train them further.
A semi skilled worker can keep a cell of CNC machines operating that does the same job 6 skilled machinists used to do 30 years ago.
Trade schools should be at the high school age level.

Union apprenticeship programs were exclusionary programs to restrict access to the labor market to the children of union members.

No blacks need apply.
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Sometimes ya gotta learn difficult lessons the hard way, and women in combat will.
Wow! I could almost hear the bullets clicking against your false teeth as you said that... they'll do fine, sweetie. And, on the plus size, they're a lot less likely to rape and kill the women and children in this imaginary future conflict of yours.
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<quoted text>Wars in places like the Middle East put women serving in traditionally noncombat roles in harms way as we saw with Jessica Lynch and others during the Iraq debacle. Our leaders aren't pushing women to the front__the circumstances of war is and women should be rewarded through promotions and pro pay on par with males.
You're obviously confused__the infantry remains closed to females.
During the Vietnam era women served in the medical area, clerking and certain other noncombat positions and there were female civilians serving there as well. Very few women died in RVN__some nurses were killed and wounded by a 122mm rocket attack while serving at the 45th Surgical Hospital in Tay Ninh which was as close to the so called front lines as US military women got. There was also a Filipino hospital with female staff at that base.
Female USO personnel and news reporters were also exposed to combat during that conlict.
So, your plan is to give women an equal share of the promotional opportunities without an equal share of the risk.

In the case of Jessica Lynch, she f*cked up resulting in the death of other soldiers and was rewarded by being treated as a hero.
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Does anybody care about the precedent established by the confiscation of bank deposits in Cypress and our government's lack of concern about same?
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John Galt wrote:
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That's a video game, not combat. One doesn't even need to be in the military to do that. Good job for paraplegics and senior citizens.
Make up your mind about the role women should play.
By the way, once in the military, one doesn't get to choose whether to go into combat or not.
Good God, John Wayne lives! Modern combat is fought from afar, sweetie, are you forgetting you own talking points already? Americans aren''t going to go tromping around in other people's countries any more, it's too fucking expensive and as the last fifty years has clearly demonstrated, the word, "victory" has no discernible meaning. You yourself go around claiming the U.S. military has "won" conflicts we not only started, but then proceeded to lose. Badly. The stroke of genius that saved what was left of our asses in Iraq and Afghanistan was to PAY the guys who were killing our soldiers not to do it anymore. How the fuck dumb do you have to be to realize that future "adventures" will be conducted remotely and anybody could do the job required since it's a very simple job to do.
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Does anybody care about the precedent established by the confiscation of bank deposits in Cypress and our government's lack of concern about same?
Ummm. no. Nope. I mean nobody but you... Got a little cash in a foreign bank, huh? Naughty, naughty...
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So, your plan is to give women an equal share of the promotional opportunities without an equal share of the risk.
In the case of Jessica Lynch, she f*cked up resulting in the death of other soldiers and was rewarded by being treated as a hero.
Well then, she had a lot in common with the Commander in Chief at that time, didn't she?
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John Galt wrote:
Does anybody care about the precedent established by the confiscation of bank deposits in Cypress and our government's lack of concern about same?
I cant think of to many policies that are more reckless
not to mention just plain wrong.
Do they really want a run on the banks?
Tell you what...if it was a US policy, I would clear out my
bank acct, and we would most likely have a run on the banks.
And most people would trust the FDIC ins. but I place no faith
at all in the FDIC.
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The Slayer wrote:
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You mixing up combat with harms way....very different.
We don't have a need for Female SEAL teams....and that is direction
that some want to take us.
I think it is a mistake when Females fly combat missions.
There is nothing wrong with a traditional way of thinking when
it comes to defending this country.
Social engineering does not belong in our country as for it does
belong in our Military.
If it was needed in order to defend our country....well that is one
thing, but a change away from the traditional way we defend
ourselves is not needed.
No doll you are! First off, I have exactly zero problem with women flying combat missions nor do the women who fly them.

Your post that I responded to mentioned foxholes and I stated that the infantry is not open to females. Several other combat roles also remain closed to females and no one that I'm aware of is "pushing" for women to become infantrymen.

In modern warfare however females in traditionally noncombat roles are being subjected to danger__I offered Jessica Lynch as an example, she was assigned to a transportation unit which became disoriented during the first days of the Iraq invasion.

Many other females and thousands of men from National Guard units around the nation who never thought they'd see combat were sent into Iraq by a Secretary of Defense who was woefully ignorant of running a war.

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leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>"Modern Scholars of Antiquity"??? Not really an oxymoron, I guess, more like whorish virgins..."Most scholars who have worked on the historicity of Jesus are Christian, and thus have vested theological, psychological, and perhaps monetary reasons to conclude that he existed.
Short answer: The evidence shows that Jesus is just a mythical character and never existed.
For Jesus-believers, here's the long answer (with evidence), which is needed to cover all bases:
All reliable evidence points to Jesus Christ being just a myth. There is no reliable evidence that Jesus even existed, and significant evidence that he didn't. The evidence is in the Bible, the other religions of the time, the lack of writings about Jesus by historians of the 1st century, and the lack of writings about Jesus by anyone until a decade or more after his supposed life ended.
The story of Jesus can be shown to be just a myth created to fulfill prophesy, cobbled together out of stories from the Old Testament and previous gods and myths -- created in the 40's and 50's by Paul of Tarsus (who exhibited symptoms of epilepsy and had delusions of Christ talking to him), the other apostles, the unknown authors of the gospels in the 70's or later, and many other people. The reliable evidence for this is overwhelming.
Paul and the other epistle writers don't know any biographical details of Jesus' life, or even the time of his earthly existence. They don't refer to Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee, Calvary or Golgotha or any pilgrimages to what should have been holy sites of Jesus' life. They also don't mention any miracles that Jesus was supposed to have worked, his virgin birth, his trial, the empty tomb, or his moral teachings. To them Jesus was largely a sky-god, who existed in the spiritual past..."
But what the hey, dumb carol, believe 'em if ya' got 'em.
There is no evidence that leosnana actually exists. In fact, all evidence suggests "she" is one of many fictional characters created by a single individual.
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Early Christians were fed to the lions and it wasn't that long after Jesus' time on this earth.
Guess they were fooled big time, huh?
They didn't just single out the Christians. And Christians probably have the Roman emperor Constantine's conversion to Christianity on the eve of battle for it's status in the world or it may to this day just be a regional religion or died out altogether.
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Ummm. no. Nope. I mean nobody but you... Got a little cash in a foreign bank, huh? Naughty, naughty...
If it is safer in a foreign bank then why not.

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