Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Read more
carol

Orlando, FL

#876040 Mar 19, 2013
Florida wrote:
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Carol is still looking for friends with the same mental disorder and fantasies as you. You are a very special kind of stupid aren't you?
Just a tool to pass the time between working at home and family.

And an outlet to vent.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#876041 Mar 19, 2013
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>by that logic, then Clinton must have been in on the invasion plan since his treating the first attack on the World Trade Center like an international shoplifting incident and his dismantling of the CIA led to 9-11.
so take a walk down your convoluted path and try to relate that to this...

.....what happened at President Bush's very first National Security Council meeting is one of O'Neill's most startling revelations.

"From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go," says O'Neill, who adds that going after Saddam was topic "A" 10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11.

"From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime," says Suskind. "Day one, these things were laid and sealed."

As treasury secretary, O'Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as "Why Saddam?" and "Why now?" were never asked.

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying 'Go find me a way to do this,'" says O'Neill. "For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap."

And that came up at this first meeting, says O'Neill, who adds that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later.

He got briefing materials under this cover sheet. "There are memos. One of them marked, secret, says,'Plan for post-Saddam Iraq,'" adds Suskind, who says that they discussed an occupation of Iraq in January and February of 2001.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-592330....

and when was the first time Cheney got a hard on for Iraq? 1972?
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#876042 Mar 19, 2013
Realtime wrote:
Fifty six Iraqi's blown to sht on the 10th anniversary of Shock and awe__scores injured.
It never ends. Pakistan arrested the murderer of Daniel Pearl, seems Pakistan is the place to hide.

UCF got lucky; that nutjob killed himself before he could commit mass murder. Close one.
Jimmy

Newington, CT

#876043 Mar 19, 2013
patterns wrote:
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One would think - But:
The Western Nations of France, Germany, Italy, Britian, Canada are all whimps.
America had to bail out The European West in two World Wars.
And you expect Warrior Spirit from them?
Any Nation that can't recognize Iran is a Global threat to Democracy and Freedom is either selectivly stupid, in denial or turning a blind eye by choice. Russia, China, N Korea all side with Iran. And those are The Countries these Western wimps fear.
Iran's been shooting off, testing their missle program.
What cave do you dwell in.
Injudgement lives in an alternate universe - it's like purgatory for retards.
carol

Orlando, FL

#876044 Mar 19, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Exactly 10 years ago the American invasion of Iraq commenced, launching one of military history's most egregious strategic non sequiturs. Not since Napoleon Bonaparte's ill-fated expedition to Egypt and Syria (1798-1801)-- from which he ultimately fled, losing an army and a fleet -- has the world seen a great power so humbled in the pursuit of illusory goals. Napoleon's dream was to use his incomparable army to spread French revolutionary and democratic ideals across a key portion of the Muslim world. But, as historian Lynn Montross once noted, "The masses were too fatalistic to be stirred by promises of a liberty they neither understood nor trusted."
The grand American goal in the Middle East, pursued some two centuries after Napoleon but with nearly the same idea in mind that had motivated him, foundered for similar reasons. The military occupation of Iraq, predictably, sparked a general uprising. But whereas Lord Nelson's great victory at Aboukir Bay forced an end to the French campaign, no such dramatic intervention drove American forces out. So they stayed, at a cost of over a trillion dollars, tens of thousands of soldiers' lives lost or shattered, and with the mounting Iraqi death toll rising well above 100,000. A debacle.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/03...
“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”— Al Gore, 2002

Just think...if Al Gore had been the president in 2002...
carol

Orlando, FL

#876045 Mar 19, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Just think: if Al Gore was the President; we would not have invaded Iraq
Think again.

“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”— Al Gore, 2002
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#876047 Mar 19, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
“We need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation.…And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War.”— John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003
Just think...if John Kerry had been the president in 2003, you'd be blaming him instead of Bush.
Kerry said "the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it not new...it has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
Apparently, he didn't need intelligence to base his vote on the Iraq War.
"And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction."

a lot of people bought the lie. just ask Colin Powell. he'll tell you all about it.
carol

Orlando, FL

#876049 Mar 19, 2013
Gee...even if Hillary Clinton had been the president in 2002...

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.”— Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

How quickly the left forgets.

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Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#876050 Mar 19, 2013
Guys name at Central Florida was Seevakumaram. What kind of name is that? Seems he didn't renew his registration was about to be removed from from the dorm. It is also apparent he had been planning this for a while. Going to check his nationality by his name. Looks middle eastern by photo.
TSM

El Paso, TX

#876051 Mar 19, 2013
The hypocrisy of Liberals…Bill Maher: Liberals Could 'Actually Lose Me' with Tax the Rich Mantra!! Liberals would you agree Bill is just being selfish!!

Since: May 11

Aspers, PA

#876052 Mar 19, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
“We need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation.…And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War.”— John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003
Just think...if John Kerry had been the president in 2003, you'd be blaming him instead of Bush.
Kerry said "the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it not new...it has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
Apparently, he didn't need intelligence to base his vote on the Iraq War.
If John Kerry had been president he would not have cherry picked the intel & lied top Congress to get 40000 soldiers killed in a ware about oil.

Kerry had seen war. Kerry had seen fellow soldiers wounded & killed.

Bush / Cheney not so much. Bush called war "romantic".
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#876053 Mar 19, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Think again.
“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”— Al Gore, 2002
Al Gore would have waited for the final report from the weapons inspectors.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#876054 Mar 19, 2013
Seven Marines killed after mortar explosion at Nevada training facility

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/19/six-mar...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#876055 Mar 19, 2013
From War to Welfare

How taxes and entitlements begin with militarism

Conservatives should be leery of jumping into wars not only because American power may become overextended—especially in a time of fiscal crisis—but because war makes government expand rapidly at home, even in areas outside of national security. Although conservatives routinely criticize Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal for ushering in the era of big government, the deeper origins of the American welfare state lie in the warfare state.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articl...

Since: May 11

Aspers, PA

#876056 Mar 19, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Think again.
“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”— Al Gore, 2002
Where was the invasion part?
Lincoln

United States

#876057 Mar 19, 2013
In 1974, as an elder statesman of the party, Goldwater successfully urged President Richard Nixon to resign when evidence of a cover-up in the Watergate scandal became overwhelming and impeachment was imminent. By the 1980s, the increasing influence of the Christian right on the Republican Party so conflicted with Goldwater's views that he became a vocal opponent of the religious right on issues such as abortion, gay rights and the role of religion in public life.
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lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#876058 Mar 19, 2013
flack wrote:
Guys name at Central Florida was Seevakumaram. What kind of name is that? Seems he didn't renew his registration was about to be removed from from the dorm. It is also apparent he had been planning this for a while. Going to check his nationality by his name. Looks middle eastern by photo.
Well, he's not white. Sounds Indian or Pakistani.
Orlando dodged a big one. He pulled a gun on his roommate who ran to the bathroom to call police.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#876060 Mar 19, 2013
carol wrote:
Gee...even if Hillary Clinton had been the president in 2002...
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.”— Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
How quickly the left forgets.
they haven't forgotten the lies they were told.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#876061 Mar 19, 2013
carol wrote:
Gee...even if Hillary Clinton had been the president in 2002...
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.”— Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
How quickly the left forgets.
Hillary would have waited for the final weapons inspectors report
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#876063 Mar 19, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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If John Kerry had been president he would not have cherry picked the intel & lied top Congress to get 40000 soldiers killed in a ware about oil.
Kerry had seen war. Kerry had seen fellow soldiers wounded & killed.
Bush / Cheney not so much. Bush called war "romantic".
Exactly. John Kerry has been on the Foreign Relations Committee for many years, has been to Iraq and Afghanistan several times; Bush had never been out of Texas.

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