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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#875011 Mar 17, 2013
The conservative movement is still an elaborate moneymaking venture

The story of FreedomWorks' big Glenn Beck payout encapsulates the right-wing media

The conservative media movement exists primarily as a moneymaking venture. As Rick Perlstein explained in the Baffler, some of the largest conservative media organs are essentially massive email lists of suckers rented to snake oil salesmen. The con isn’t limited to a couple of newsletters and websites: The most prominent conservative organizations in the nation are primarily dedicated to separating conservatives from their money.

FreedomWorks, which is funded primarily by very rich people, solicits donations from non-rich conservative people. More than 80,000 people donated money to FreedomWorks in 2012, and it seems likely that only a small minority of those people were hedge fund millionaires. And what are people who donate to this grass-roots conservative organization funded mostly by a few very rich people getting for their hard-earned money? In addition to paying Dick Armey $400,000 a year for 20 years to stay away, FreedomWorks also apparently spent more than a million dollars paying Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to say nice things about FreedomWorks, in order to convince listeners to send FreedomWorks money that FreedomWorks would then give to Limbaugh and Beck. It’s a pretty simple con. Beck, meanwhile, also has a subscriber-based media operation, in which people pay his company money for access to programs where Beck expresses opinions that he was paid to hold. He also spent years telling everyone to buy gold from a company that pays him and defrauds consumers.

As Armey admitted to Media Matters, FreedomWorks at this point essentially raises money for the sake of raising money. It exists to bilk “activists.” Armey at least has the courtesy to be embarrassed by this:

“If Limbaugh and Beck, if we were using those resources to recruit activists and inform activists and to encourage and enthuse activists, that’s one thing,” Armey explained.“If we are using these things to raise money; one, it’s a damned expensive way to raise money; and two, it makes raising money an end on to itself not an instrumental activity to support the foundation work that our organization does.”

Armey also said the relationship with Beck expanded to include rallies that were co-sponsored by Beck and FreedomWorks, and included appearances by FreedomWorks President and CEO Matt Kibbe.

Armey said he objected to these events, dubbed FreePACs, because they often charged admission to FreedomWorks activists.

A review of promotional information for the events found $20 was a standard donation requested at some of the locations, while a Dallas, TX., FreePAC last summer charged prices as high as $971.

But Armey is basically alone. No major right-wing media figures ever speak out against the widespread practice of constantly bilking credulous old people. Newsmax, a company whose email list is regularly given over to blatant get-rich-quick scheme hucksters, publishes basically every major and minor conservative columnist (and Lanny Davis). Newsmax pays to syndicate their columns, and their stature lends the site credibility. None of them ever complain. No one on the right criticizes the Newsmax business model. It seems to be semi-common knowledge that major conservative media figures sell their endorsements. No one says it’s deceptive. No one says Dick Morris should stop marketing his various ventures on Fox, all the time.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_conservat...

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#875012 Mar 17, 2013
This complete contempt for the audience is unique to the right-wing press — if the Huffington Post made its money selling snake oil, liberals would complain. The recent trickle of complaints about the major nonprofit money-making groups, like FreedomWorks and CrossroadsUSA, has come solely because those groups failed to win the election. If Romney, or even a couple of Senate candidates, had won, no one would mind that the two groups enriched their boards of directors on the backs of tens of thousands of small donors. Right-wing reaction to Armey’s admission to Media Matters has thus far been outrage … that Armey talked to Media Matters.

The problem this presents for the movement, beyond the threat of eventually bankrupting the people who give it power, is that the business of money-making, for consultants and media personalities and Herman Cains, is at this point getting in the way of the business of advancing conservative causes. The groups exert massive influence, and they only ever push the Republican Party to get more extreme. Apocalyptic hysteria is much more effective at getting people to open their wallets than reasonable commentary. There are a lot of people whose livelihoods depend on keeping lots of conservatives terrified and ill-informed. The groups that exist to raise funds raise more funds when they endorse the crazier candidate.

So even if you don’t particularly care that regular conservative Americans are constantly being scammed by their media apparatus, you should still worry about the influence of the scammers. The fact that there is a lot of money to be made in acting like Michele Bachmann is part of why the House seems poised to blow up the U.S. economy. The fact that conservatives have that much contempt for their own true believers neatly explains how they govern when they actually have power.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_conservat...

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PDUPONT

Greenfield, MA

#875013 Mar 17, 2013
carol wrote:
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Then there's the 1.5 million awarded to a Boston hospital to study obese lesbians - and the half million to watch a poor shrimp running on a treadmill - or the 27 million for Moroccan pottery classes - or the 10 million to train Asian call center workers...
The list is goes on and on...
But let's cut our military to the bone instead.
Okay Carol let's take these things one at a time.
The purpose of the Boston study was to try and find out why as a group lesbians are more prone to obesity than other groups. Robert Bock of the NIH stated;
"The study on obesity and sexual orientation aims to understand why specific populations are disproportionately affected by obesity and how best to inform prevention and treatment strategies aimed at these populations."
They weren't just studying lesbians for giggles and kicks nitwit.
Your shrimp on a treadmill example also shows how shallow your thought processes are. They weren't just watching shrimp on a treadmill for laughs twit, it was a study done by biologist Lou Burnett of the College of Charleston in South Carolina that studied environmental impacts on many economically important species of seafood. The treadmill study was a small part of the overall research and studied how the shrimp reacted to changes in its environment.
Pottery classes are only a small part of the Moroccan economic grant as is the call center portion of the grant in the Philippines teaching English to students primarily for health care and tourism fields.
All of these programs pale in cost to Medicare part D voted for by both John Boehner and budget genius Paul Ryan which cost taxpayers $32 billion in 2010 and is expected to rise to $150 billion by 2019. Let's not forget the costs of treating our veterans from two wars which are estimated to rise to $8.4 billion by 2020.

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Waxman

Windsor, CT

#875014 Mar 17, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
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Okay Carol let's take these things one at a time.
The purpose of the Boston study was to try and find out why as a group lesbians are more prone to obesity than other groups. Robert Bock of the NIH stated;
"The study on obesity and sexual orientation aims to understand why specific populations are disproportionately affected by obesity and how best to inform prevention and treatment strategies aimed at these populations."
They weren't just studying lesbians for giggles and kicks nitwit.
Your shrimp on a treadmill example also shows how shallow your thought processes are. They weren't just watching shrimp on a treadmill for laughs twit, it was a study done by biologist Lou Burnett of the College of Charleston in South Carolina that studied environmental impacts on many economically important species of seafood. The treadmill study was a small part of the overall research and studied how the shrimp reacted to changes in its environment.
Pottery classes are only a small part of the Moroccan economic grant as is the call center portion of the grant in the Philippines teaching English to students primarily for health care and tourism fields.
All of these programs pale in cost to Medicare part D voted for by both John Boehner and budget genius Paul Ryan which cost taxpayers $32 billion in 2010 and is expected to rise to $150 billion by 2019. Let's not forget the costs of treating our veterans from two wars which are estimated to rise to $8.4 billion by 2020.
So childish.

You need to throw in "They weren't just studying lesbians for giggles and kicks nitwit." was so liberal. Carol never said it was.

Hey! Let me give you and the idiots that dreamed up this study a hint. It's because they aren't active enough and eat too much!!!!

How dumb can the left be?

haha! Your shrimp story if too funny.

Where does it end you and the Socialist Party (aka: Democrats)?

The debt just keeps on piling up and you/they just cannot seem to display a single ounce of spending restraint. Simply irresponsible.

You must admit, Obama closes White House Tours and the promptly hands out $250 million to Egypt is insane.

Obama is so political. The nimrod doesn't care an ounce about our budgets, financial condition or the debt our kids and grandkids will have due to him. The man cannot compromise.

back off on Carol - she makes more sense blind Obamabots like you do.

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“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#875015 Mar 17, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Page not found.
Didn't you bother to check babe?
How are you liking the the star of the show Sarah Palin?
I, personally, thought she gave a very funny thought provoking speech.

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PDUPONT

Greenfield, MA

#875017 Mar 17, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
God bless O'Reilly for expressing his righteous anger after a major newspaper in Colorado smeared him rather than criticized his own governor for refusing to protect children in Colorado and not passing Jessica's Law but pushing legislation for gay marriage and legalizing marijuana instead.
Colorado is 1 of 4 states who have not passed this law to protect children from perverts.
Maybe you should express some righteous anger over children being repeatedly raped in Colorado and given 2 year prison terms.
Well Carol the Colorado District Attorneys' Council, Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault and Colorado Office of the Public Defender all agree Jessica's Law isn't necessary. Colorado law has a life sentence for sexual assault against a child and Jessica's Law only mandates a 25 year sentence.
O'Reilly is a blowhard and a bully who has a meltdown whenever someone doesn't cower before him. O'Reilly was using this issue to attack the Colorado House Speakers sexual orientation.
Why shouldn't all of Colorado's citizens have equal rights under the law?
Marijuana laws are a ridiculous waste of law enforcement resources.

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Waxman

Windsor, CT

#875020 Mar 17, 2013
carol wrote:
Oh, sorry, I'm back. I just want to clarify that my daughter lost her job in a VERY prominent University, where she was in charge of Emerging Cosmological Theories, but, sadly, as I say fell victim to jealousy.
So, now she's at 7-11, and after only a few days, her talents have been noticed, and she's on track to be AM, as I already told you. For example, it was her idea to put the pastries and cake up front, prominently, AND offer one of those BIG GULPS that the wonderful Sara Palin was seen drinking yesterday during one of her inspirational speeches -- at half price with 2 pastries or cakes of any kind. The offer went over big and is selling like hot cakes! I'm so proud.
Well, just wanted to clarify that so I wont' be attacked by these rabid dogs on here who will jump on any lapse of mine like stink on stink, but will let their own kind get away with murder. Just like Obama and the media, come to think of it.
Meh.

Just you again lily?

Looks like nobody is here.

later.

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Lorac

Burlingame, CA

#875023 Mar 17, 2013
Yup, looks like the only ones here are me and my sockpuppet friend "Waxturds" and the "Waxman Topix Warriors"!!

Defending, embracing and displaying GOP insanity daily. Count on it!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#875024 Mar 17, 2013
carol wrote:
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Thanks Sol. It's so adorable the way you have my back. I just had to come back on to say that, even though I'm in the middle of a batch of chocolate coconut macaroons. Yummmmmm. Wish you could be here, I'd make them Kosher for you! LOL!
kosher cookies?

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“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

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#875025 Mar 17, 2013
Lorac wrote:
Yup, looks like the only ones here are me and my sockpuppet friend "Waxturds" and the "Waxman Topix Warriors"!!
Defending, embracing and displaying GOP insanity daily. Count on it!
NO!, Defending, embracing and displaying GOP REALITY daily. Count on it!
OUR PRESIDENT HAS is and will be failing us and you can count on that.
He was elected by ignorants with ignorance. Lots of it.

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carol

Orlando, FL

#875026 Mar 17, 2013
GOPIdiots wrote:
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Let's go with your reasoning here.
If what you say holds true, then much of the current economic woes have little to do with Obama, but rather the GOP controlled house.
Why? Because they wouldn't toe the line and do his bidding when he didn't meet with them for two years? Because he was in front of cameras marginalizing them when senate democrats hadn't come up with a budget in four years? Because the proposed budgets and reforms by the GOP weren't considered a starting point for compromise or even taken up for a vote in the Senate?

The Democrats have control of the presidency and the Senate. The House can only do so much if the other two refuse to reach across the aisle. It's up to the party in power to do that. Not the other way around. Instead, the president and democrats have treated republicans like the red-headed stepchild.

The republicans met the president halfway in his "balanced approach" in January by raising taxes on the wealthy in return for his promise to make specific cuts in the budget which both sides could agree on. He reneged on that promise, signed the sequestration act so he could blame republicans and now wants to increase taxes yet again.

So why is any of this stalemate the GOP's fault?

Fortunately, Obama's political strategy of blaming republicans for the sequestration backfired.

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NUT surpriZed

Pompano Beach, FL

#875027 Mar 17, 2013
Not Surprized wrote:
I really am The Waxturd Trolling Carnival of Sockpuppets, and I was out in full force last night!!
I am the entire Peanut Gallery back-up squad, fighting the good fight.
I am "Not Surprized" The turd that just wont flush.
I am in love and have been rejected by WAXBALLS, clusterfvck,
Forum, UR One, Big Bubba Blackcock, Forum Old Crazy Goober, lily waxman raton fl, Forum, Proud2bewhite, NoSurprise, Jimma Carter, TheIndependentMajority, Impeach Obama, Arguingwitheidiots, loulee rat mouth fl, Barney Frank (anyone from Temecula, CA), fake Dem, Lt Dan, LOL, lily's children, LOL, Floriduh, fukutu, Ignoramus, Liberals Eat Feces, DEM idiots, Billy Carter,, Warturds, CAE, Fetch N Stepinit, Rectal Liberal, Commie DemocRATs, Wartime, Billy C, Subversive Barry, Groucho, FUBO, King George, Patrick, Democrats are Fascists, Gay Ghost, Jimmy, Bronach, Pete, King George, PTBW Forever, The Real Truth, WorthlessWhore, Louise, Cheryl
I wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's how rediculous you are.
What a rediculous thing to say. You obviously are deficient in this area.
What is it like being dead Ghost?
What is it like? Do you feel dead
He lives here just like the Ghost does.
Tell me. What is it like being
Hiya Woofie. Ya got me confused with someone else.
Oh sure You also have a Unicorn in the back yard,right? Toodles, ape man.
Do you ride your Unicorn often, liberal?
577856 Democrats are Fascists wrote: Have a nice day Richard Cranium. What a perfect description of the typical liberal. Good job, Richard Cranium.
#395210 Jul 17, 2011 <quoted text> Look Richard Cranium. I already told you, NOT INTERESTED in you. It's obvious to me you were born from the anal canal (spelling police - what a moron - like I'm going to spell check posting to a loser).
395208 Jul 17, 2011 No. Liberals who cannot adapt to society like you are homo-schooled Richard Cranium. Let me guess about you... You are an Obama voter?
..and we thought you couldn't see past your bulbous nose. I guess that's not a problem when your eyes are on the side of your head. Oh, what a long tounge you have!
|#441048 Bored. You say a lot, but it means nothing. One can only deal with a moron like you in limited doses. I'm sure you've encoutered this before, like when you approach people at a party. Did you ever wonder why they scatter? Zzzzz.
#395266 Jul 17, 2011 I'm sure you're used to it. After all, when you walk up to people at a party, don't they go the other way too?#93787 Mar 7, 2011 When you walk up to a group at a party, does everyone walk away from you? July 17, 2011
#395266 I'm sure you're used to it. After all, when you walk up to people at a party, don't they go the other way too? Is it sad liberal moron?
<quoted text> By the way, do like it Greek? I'll be gentle with you. I know you Democrats like to avoid talking about Greece! Can I call you my little Greeker?
<quoted text>If you've got any balls, then spit them out because they're definitely not yours
<quoted text>How's it going, Spork? Still have a mouthful of Barry?
Time for some chocolate cake and ice cream!
<quoted text>
You can stand in line with the rest of the libtards and await your ass-pounding from the mods.
[nwaxman]I like big sweaty co ock in my azz whole!
I also wrote:
<quoted text>butt-crack
Not Surprized! ROTFLMAO!
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#875028 Mar 17, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> I, personally, thought she gave a very funny thought provoking speech.
Yeah about as thought provoking as this troll ridden thread has become.

She did manage to cover every right wing non-issue in sound byte form however and she only got lost twice that I noticed. She's got a terrific speech writer__she had the half wits foaming at the mouth.

Rand Paul won the straw poll and he identifies himself as a libertarian. The Republican party is in deep sht with the next national election less than 20 months away.
carol

Orlando, FL

#875030 Mar 17, 2013
carol wrote:
Oh, sorry, I'm back. I just want to clarify that my daughter lost her job in a VERY prominent University, where she was in charge of Emerging Cosmological Theories, but, sadly, as I say fell victim to jealousy.
So, now she's at 7-11, and after only a few days, her talents have been noticed, and she's on track to be AM, as I already told you. For example, it was her idea to put the pastries and cake up front, prominently, AND offer one of those BIG GULPS that the wonderful Sara Palin was seen drinking yesterday during one of her inspirational speeches -- at half price with 2 pastries or cakes of any kind. The offer went over big and is selling like hot cakes! I'm so proud.
Well, just wanted to clarify that so I wont' be attacked by these rabid dogs on here who will jump on any lapse of mine like stink on stink, but will let their own kind get away with murder. Just like Obama and the media, come to think of it.
Insecure men - and women - who have no leg to stand on and who cannot defend their political point of view steal without stealing others' identities and locations who intimidate in an effort to silence them are an enemy to free speech.
Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#875031 Mar 17, 2013
Stoneman wrote:
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Amazing, isn't it?
I was standing behind a mama and her offspring at a 7-11 in Colorado Springs (not the cheapest place to buy groceries by a long-shot) when mama bought her middle-school aged kid a muffin and juice to go with her coffee and pastry, she paid for it with food stamps.
The kid was wearing a sport jacket, leather, that I could identify as $100+ because I had purchased a similar jacket a few months prior.
A guy at my office has a sweet Harley-Davidson (one that I could never afford) and a hand-held computer with all the bells and whistles. And his kids are among the 25% receiving free/reduced lunches in public schools.
Did you know that according to the Wall Street Journal, 2 years ago over 60% of the "poor" (those qualified for public assistance) in the US had CABLE TV?
Don't back down. Liberals are worthless parasites. They protect their own because they are too damn pathetic and lazy to pay their own way.
Why can't you say you were standing behind a mother? How do you know that the jacket may have been a gift from his grandparents? How do you know your coworkers children receive free lunch? There is an income requirement that a family must fall under, why do you focus on the poor and dissect everything they have and do? You think poor people shouldn't have tv? Or cars or computers?
You are a sick,covetous loser with too much time on your hands if you are stalking peop,e in 7-11. Get a life.
Have you ever thought that the private jets that Exxon Mobil executives fly are possible because they pay no taxes?
Keep looking at the poor kids jacket or donut you idiot. It's the schtick that they've handed to dummies like you, to keep you busy being hateful to the poor while they are raping this country and laughing at fools like you and Carol and the rest of the merry band of Morans
carol

Orlando, FL

#875032 Mar 17, 2013
The republicans met the president halfway in his "balanced approach" in January by raising taxes on the wealthy in return for his promise to make specific cuts in the budget which both sides could agree on. He reneged on that promise, signed the sequestration act so he could blame republicans in anticipation of a political advantage and now wants to increase taxes again.

So who is missing what here?
lily waxman raton fl

Pompano Beach, FL

#875033 Mar 17, 2013
Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Why can't you say you were standing behind a mother? How do you know that the jacket may have been a gift from his grandparents? How do you know your coworkers children receive free lunch? There is an income requirement that a family must fall under, why do you focus on the poor and dissect everything they have and do? You think poor people shouldn't have tv? Or cars or computers?
You are a sick,covetous loser with too much time on your hands if you are stalking peop,e in 7-11. Get a life.
Have you ever thought that the private jets that Exxon Mobil executives fly are possible because they pay no taxes?
Keep looking at the poor kids jacket or donut you idiot. It's the schtick that they've handed to dummies like you, to keep you busy being hateful to the poor while they are raping this country and laughing at fools like you and Carol and the rest of the merry band of Morans
lily she be drinkin verrrrrrrry early this moanin
carol

Orlando, FL

#875035 Mar 17, 2013
carol wrote:
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Please don't tell me you've never heard of that! Anything can be declared Kosher as long as somebody appointed by a Rabbi oversees all aspects of production. With meat, it's making sure that the maximum cruelty is used, and that it is done by hand -- kind of like the muslims do. After all, animals, unlike us, have no feelings or emotions -- don't feel fear, panic, real pain, and all that depressing stuff. So it's okay whatever we do to them. Even the Holy Bible tells us that -- that they're here to do anything humans want with them. Same with the Earth.
I hope I've clarified a few things for you today.
I also want to say, as long as I'm on here -- just to show that I'm fair and even-handed, that I thoroughly disapprove of something that's come to my attention on these forums: That is, my "brothers in arms" seem to be using them as an opportunity for something other than what they were intended, which is the free exchange of political ideas and commentary. Specifically, I think they might be using these halls of learning as a vehicle for "stimulation," that could result in their (and it pains me to say this), "punching the munchkin," "roughing up the suspect," "spending some quality time with a redneck friend," -- if you're getting my drift?
I just want to say, KNOCK IT OFF, BOYS! Because you're really not helping our cause one bit.
Well, I got that off my chest. Don't be upset with me. It's for your own good, after all, as I always told my daughter when I tied her to the bed when she was going through that awful hormonal stuff and sneaking out the window with local boy (or letting them in). God, I'm glad those days are over.
Later again. I'm a little full, guess I overindulged again. If I'm not careful I'm going to tip the scales over those 15 pounds or so that thrown me back into diabetes and weekly labs. Oh dear, as if I don't have enough to worry about ...
Those who have no leg to stand on and who cannot defend their political point of view steal others' identities in an effort to silence free speech which is a tactic of communism...comrade.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#875036 Mar 17, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Please don't tell me you've never heard of that! Anything can be declared Kosher as long as somebody appointed by a Rabbi oversees all aspects of production. With meat, it's making sure that the maximum cruelty is used, and that it is done by hand -- kind of like the muslims do. After all, animals, unlike us, have no feelings or emotions -- don't feel fear, panic, real pain, and all that depressing stuff. So it's okay whatever we do to them. Even the Holy Bible tells us that -- that they're here to do anything humans want with them. Same with the Earth.
I hope I've clarified a few things for you today.
I also want to say, as long as I'm on here -- just to show that I'm fair and even-handed, that I thoroughly disapprove of something that's come to my attention on these forums: That is, my "brothers in arms" seem to be using them as an opportunity for something other than what they were intended, which is the free exchange of political ideas and commentary. Specifically, I think they might be using these halls of learning as a vehicle for "stimulation," that could result in their (and it pains me to say this), "punching the munchkin," "roughing up the suspect," "spending some quality time with a redneck friend," -- if you're getting my drift?
I just want to say, KNOCK IT OFF, BOYS! Because you're really not helping our cause one bit.
Well, I got that off my chest. Don't be upset with me. It's for your own good, after all, as I always told my daughter when I tied her to the bed when she was going through that awful hormonal stuff and sneaking out the window with local boy (or letting them in). God, I'm glad those days are over.
Later again. I'm a little full, guess I overindulged again. If I'm not careful I'm going to tip the scales over those 15 pounds or so that thrown me back into diabetes and weekly labs. Oh dear, as if I don't have enough to worry about ...
so where can i find some kosher chocolate?

and i keep berating the self stimulation crowd to no avail, but you know how such behavior can become addictive when they've been sitting in grandma's basement for the last 5 years tapping away on their 10 year old HP whilst spending half of their time trying, but failing, to pick up pussy on Purrsonals.
Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#875037 Mar 17, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah about as thought provoking as this troll ridden thread has become.
She did manage to cover every right wing non-issue in sound byte form however and she only got lost twice that I noticed. She's got a terrific speech writer__she had the half wits foaming at the mouth.
Rand Paul won the straw poll and he identifies himself as a libertarian. The Republican party is in deep sht with the next national election less than 20 months away.
I just couldn't bring myself to listen to that screech owl and whiner, already know what they're going to say. Same old hateful crap to keep the red blood boiling of Morans like we have on here. Thought provoking!!
Thoughts of what?

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