Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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over time?
1964. might as well flipped a switch.
Once the Southern Democrat bloc was defeated in 1964 and after a significant number of blacks moved north and west and the KKK began to disappear, the South began to change dramatically.

There was a boom in the service economy, manufacturing, technology industries and the financial sector.

Numerous automobile production plants opened in Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee.

Major banking corporations opened headquarters in North Carolina, Alabama and Georgia.

The Coca-Cola Company and Home Depot as well as cable television networks - CNN, TBS, TNT, Turner South - also helped create economic expansion. The South reported some of the lowest unemployment rates in the United States.

In other words, the landscape changed after 1964.

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Think Black Expo ... aka Summer "Celebration"
What a damned joke.
I Agree.

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Once the Southern Democrat bloc was defeated in 1964 and after a significant number of blacks moved north and west and the KKK began to disappear, the South began to change dramatically.
There was a boom in the service economy, manufacturing, technology industries and the financial sector.
Numerous automobile production plants opened in Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee.
Major banking corporations opened headquarters in North Carolina, Alabama and Georgia.
The Coca-Cola Company and Home Depot as well as cable television networks - CNN, TBS, TNT, Turner South - also helped create economic expansion. The South reported some of the lowest unemployment rates in the United States.
In other words, the landscape changed after 1964.
That's True.
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Carol,
A rather ugly side to the way your side "debates" is to dance away from the facts you can't answer.
I refer to the arrangement the Bush Administration made with pharmaceutical companies, where reprsentatives of the latter were allowed to participate in DEA evaluations of new drugs produced by the same companies!
This is a clear case of conflict of interest.
But even worse, it shows the extent to which Republicans not only fail in their obligation to be a watchdog over the private sector, but actually allows corporations to co-opt the watchdog function and bring in line with their goals.
We saw this again with MME, which allowed oil companies to actually fill out the government inspection reports of their safety standards. The BP diaster followed.
This underlies the true nature of the Republican Party which is to betray the public trust to corporate profit.
20 lobbyists were staffed in the Obama administration in 2010.

Not a conflict of interest?

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Guess you have to look at the number in both parties who voted against it - 96 Democrats in the House and 21 in the Senate versus 34 Republicans in the House and 6 Republicans in the Senate.
According to Congressional Quarterly, the Civil Rights Act of 1964
passed the House 290-130, and Republican support for the bill was much stronger than Democratic: 61% of the Democrats supported the legislation while 80% of the Republicans backed it. These numbers were similar in the Senate - 69% of Democrats backed the bill along with 82% of Republicans.
Doesn't mean 61% of Democrats in the House and 69% in the Senate still didn't vote for the passage of the CVA of 1964. That's a lot of Democrats.
But the bill passed because a larger percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats - 80% in the House and 82% in the Senate.
That was my original point.
Exactly
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Last post of the evening - from an article on the NBC website no less.

"The increased pace of hiring is still well below levels normally seen more than three years into an economic recovery.

"The widespread lingering caution from consumers and employers alike more than three years after the Great Recession officially ended is now one of the biggest hurdles to a more robust recovery.

"Employers can’t hire until consumers – who account for more than two-thirds of the U.S. economy – begin to feel better about spending. But that won’t happen until employers pick up the pace of hiring to create millions of new paychecks and pay higher wages for those who already have one."

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economywatch/...

Seems like a leadership problem not addressing the problem to me.
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Goodnight, Anonymous of Indy.
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carol wrote:
Goodnight, Anonymous of Indy.
Tomorrow, let's drop ancient history and move on to the current economic disaster of the Obama administration, particularly its devastating effects on poor blacks.

“It's all about the struggle”

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That's a nice shit-eatin' grin ya got there.
I see snake eyes.

“It's all about the struggle”

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carol wrote:
As far as the vote to ban gay marriage in California:
ABC News - "Whites voted very narrowly against the ban, 51-49 percent. Asian-Americans voted the same. Hispanics voted for it by 53-47 percent. Blacks voted for it, overwhelmingly, 70-30. Blacks can be said to have put it over the top. Hypothetically, had no blacks voted, we compute a vote of 50-50," according to an analysis by ABC News Polling Director.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/...
This is the irony on the part of Democrats. They continually blame Republicans for not supporting gay marriage when it's mostly blacks and Hispanics - who are mostly Democrats.
That is funny.
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President Lyndon B John (D) had the bill passed into law with the help of northern Republicans.
Racist Southern Democrats then became Republicans.
Why would racist democrats leave the demokratic party which opposed the the Civil Rights Act and join the Republican party who passed the Civil Rights Act you racist demokrats were against?

In the age of instant information...Your ignorance and running on empty is still a morons best choice Patrick.
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The demokratic party is inbred with FDR Jim Crow hate and racism..
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SO I stand with my initial statement on what I'd read personally about the incident myself-
A mistake of MISinformation, based on squawk and parrot MISinformation.
Kind of like My Lai.
And Benghazi.
From your post, there is this key passage:

"Though information obtained well after the fact indicates that there was actually no North Vietnamese attack that night, U.S. authorities were convinced at the time that one had taken place, and reacted by sending planes from the carriers Ticonderoga and Constellation to hit North Vietnamese torpedo boat bases and fuel facilites."

Common sense suggests it is extremely unlikely that some natural occurence was mistaken for torpedoes and machinegun fire.

So someone is lying here.

To this can be added that the "mistake" aspect was not revealed to the public for years. Yet, it is something those in command would have realized within a few days. In fact, given an event of this magnitude, the ship's commander should have been questioned very early in the game.

Which raises the question, did those in authority sit on that knowledge knowing a war would break out by not telling the whole truth?

As for My Lai, no mistake there. The village was surrounded by U.S. troops, the occupants herded out into the forest, and then small groups marched off out of view and machinegunned.

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youtube.com/watch... …………
Obama are next impeachment
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"...LBJ was tossed out ... for his complicity regarding Vietnam."
Did you say "complicity"?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yes, I did.

Although I should have stated the possibility that Johnson was misled by CIA black ops of the type Prouty mentions.

In a best case scenario for you, Johnson is complicit with the CIA. But this doesn't help you seize the moral high ground.

Because in such a scenario, we simply have a rightwing Democrat working in unison with a rightwing government bureaucracy and in defiance of mainstream Democrat beliefs. Sorry, but this makes LBJ more in political alignment with the Ronald Reagans and GW Bushs of your side.

The key thing is that CIA conservatives were the prime movers of the Vietnam War. They were the first personnel to enter the country. They had operational control of all U.S. units in Vietnam for ten years until the big war opened up. And they were running black operations against the North to provoke a conflict.

CIA conservatives. Live with it.
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<quoted text>Why would racist democrats leave the demokratic party which opposed the the Civil Rights Act and join the Republican party who passed the Civil Rights Act you racist demokrats were against?
In the age of instant information...Your ignorance and running on empty is still a morons best choice Patrick.
He expressed the facts poorly, but has a point.

What was left out was Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign speech against civil rights. Then on election night, something happened which had not been seen since before the Civil War. Five Southern states bolted from traditional Democrat ranks and ended up in the GOP electoral column.

The reason is obvious. Those states hated the Civil Rights Act and saw in Goldwater and the Republican Party a possible saviour. It was not an acccurate view, but it was their perception just the same.

The entire South did not swing into the Republican camp overnight. But by 1988, it was voting as a solid Republican block.

Now to be fair, the GOP did take on the Dixiecrats during the Civil Rights battles in Congress. But like it or not, the same Dixiecrats gradually became an integral part of the new GOP, injecting it with their attitudes.

The GOP of the 1980s and onward was not the same party of Eisenhower.
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<quoted text>That is funny.
The loudest voices against gay marriage are conservative Repubicans. Probably most of it coming from the Southern Bible Belt.

Carol is like a starving rat willing to gnaw on any piece of stale cheese she can sink her teeth into. Who really cares about gay marriage with so many other major issues out there?
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Aren't you getting tired of playing this game of having these showdowns every two or three months? The Republicans met Obama halfway in January and he wants to raise taxes again.
Tell me one thing Obama has proposed to cut in the budget.
Sure stupid here they are.
www.thestreet.com/.../here-are-the-budget-cut... ...
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He expressed the facts poorly, but has a point.
What was left out was Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign speech against civil rights. Then on election night, something happened which had not been seen since before the Civil War. Five Southern states bolted from traditional Democrat ranks and ended up in the GOP electoral column.
The reason is obvious. Those states hated the Civil Rights Act and saw in Goldwater and the Republican Party a possible saviour. It was not an acccurate view, but it was their perception just the same.
The entire South did not swing into the Republican camp overnight. But by 1988, it was voting as a solid Republican block.
Now to be fair, the GOP did take on the Dixiecrats during the Civil Rights battles in Congress. But like it or not, the same Dixiecrats gradually became an integral part of the new GOP, injecting it with their attitudes.
The GOP of the 1980s and onward was not the same party of Eisenhower.
The ignorant maintain the Dixiecrats became Republicans shortly after passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, cway's moronic lie.

Dixiecrats Richard Russell, Mendell Rivers, Clinton's mentor William Fulbright, Robert Byrd, Fritz Hollings and Al Gore Sr. and many more, remained Democrats till their dying day you idiot.

Democrats created the Dixiecrats, when the civil rights movement succeeded by the Republicans, Dixiecrats returned to their racist Democratic fold. It was not till much later, with a new, younger breed of Southerner and the thousands of Northerners moving into the South, that Republicans made gains in the south.

In the age of information...Your ignorance and running on dumbass is still cway's best choice.
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You should watch calling others liar, when it is you disseminating misinformation.
As a result of a Judicial Watch filing under the Freedom of
Information Act, the USAF releaseddocuments detailing House Speaker use
of United States Air Force aircraft between March 2009 and June 2010.
Here are the main highlights revealed by the USAF. Keep in mind that
all the data below relate to United States Air Force aircraft used by
one woman over a
sixteen month period.Several of these flights included Ms. Pelosi’s
guests, such as grown children, grandchildren, various in-laws, friends
and hangers-on.
Over 95% of the trips were between the west coast and Washington DC ,
for what you might call a commute between home and the office. READ it
and WEEP!!
Total trips: 85 over a 68 week period, or 1.25 average trips per week.
Total mileage: 206,264 miles, or 2,427 average miles per trip.
Total flying time: 428.6 hours, or an average of 5 hours per trip.
Cost to the taxpayers:$2,100,744, or $27,715 per trip, or $1,285,162 per year!
Cost of in flight food and alcohol:$101,429; $1,193 per trip; $62,051 per year.
Since taking over as speaker of the House John Boehner has flown commercial flights not USAF jets.
Pelosi Travel Abuse? Case Not Proved
By JONATHAN KARL (@jonkarl) AND LUIS MARTINEZ (@LMartinezABC)
March 11, 2009
The treasure trove of documents obtained by Judicial Watch from the Department of Defense regarding Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's use of military aircraft doesn't seem to prove the organization's allegation that Pelosi has made "unprecedented demands" for the flights.
In fact, it appears that Pelosi uses military aircraft less often than her predecessor, former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert.
The documents cover the period from January 2007 to November 2008 and show that Pelosi made the equivalent of 20 round-trips between Washington (Andrews Air Force Base) and San Francisco. That's an average of less than one round-trip per month. In contrast, former Speaker Hastert traveled home to his Illinois district virtually every weekend and, his former aides tell ABC News, he would almost always travel on military aircraft. Like Hastert, Pelosi also occasionally leads Congressional delegations on foreign trips (the documents show six foreign trips: one to Asia, three to the Middle East and two to Europe).
The documents obtained by Judicial Watch also disprove another frequently repeated rumor about Pelosi's travel: that she regularly flies home to San Francisco in an Air Force C-40, the military equivalent of a Boeing 737. According to the documents, Pelosi did not make any domestic trips on a C-40 during the 23-month period from January 2007 to November 2008. Her trips to San Francisco have all been on smaller executive aircraft, usually an Air Force C-20 (the equivalent of a Gulfstream G-3) or a more plush C-37 (a Gulfstream G-5).
The government is reimbursed for any family members that take the flights and your figures about the liquor are without any evidence.

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