Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Cway

United States

#872398 Mar 12, 2013
The Slayer wrote:
<quoted text>
1.well what would you suggest that Bush should have done with the warning?
Put federal marshalls on flights. Tenet's August 6, 2001 PDB mentioned FBI sources which described preparations for hijackings. The source was likely the agents who were tipped off about the Arab students learning to fly, but not land.
2.People went prison for outing the agent.
Libby did no jail time and Bush immediately commuted the criminal part of his sentence. Some reporter did a short stint. I think that's about it. Please don't tell me this was adequate punishment.
3.Obama sure took a page out of the Bush play book in regards to national debt....but that ok..RIGHT?
Bush inherited a healthy budget and not only wrecked it, but the economy as well. No, Obama didn't borrow any plays out your playbook. He has had to react to a bad situation.
4.Iraq was not in compliance with its surrender agreement.
Bush and Cheney pushed those accusations to the hilt, but no such violations were revealed once Iraq was occupied.
5.Yes it was our fault....because we let these leader govern
with a liberal progressive agenda.
Oh, come on. Republicans became big spenders starting with Reagan.
6. job losses was not our fault...just result of a crashed economy, brought on by poor liberal policy.
The crash was brought about by a real estate bubble and credit default swaps. The real estate bubbble was fueled by bad lending policies of the banks, which were voluntary, not forced.

The Republican Party controlled Congress and the White House during this period and did nothing to address these issues.
7. Think you may want to take a look at the time line when
these lending practices were started. Face it liberal progressive policies have screwed everything up, and voters will start to understand that.
History suggests otherwise. FDR took us out of the Great Depression. There was a second dip in unemployment from 1938 to 1941 caused by a cutback in government spending. But this eased by late 1941 and unemployment dropped down to 10%. WW II took care of the rest.

The administration of John Kennedy saw prosperous times.

Contrary to GOP beliefs, it was Paul Volcker who created the recession during the second half of Carter's tenure. In an effort to knock down inflation, Volcker raised the prime rate to something around 20%. It eventually reduced inflation, but its immediate impact was that corporations decided not to borrow and cut back their work forces. You know the rest.

There was an economic boom during the Clinton years, although he did leave office with a moderate recession.

As far as Reagan goes, much of the boom he achieved came from military spending and large annual deficits. It was not sustainable.

“Seriously Misguided Democrat”

Since: Oct 12

Chicago Thugtown

#872399 Mar 12, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>You've been seeing unlicensed ones, apparently. Does your wife know?
No, but yours does!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#872400 Mar 12, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry sonny, not seeing the correlation between Saddam being a rogue dictatator pre-emptive CATALYST in both the first Gulf War...and Obama being elected POTUS-other than democratic herd pack denial....(is that what your point is?)
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The First Persian Gulf War, also known as the Gulf War, Jan.–Feb., 1991, was an armed conflict between Iraq and a coalition of 32 nations including the United States, Britain, Egypt, France, and Saudi Arabia. It was a result of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait on Aug. 2, 1990; Iraq then annexed Kuwait, which it had long claimed. Iraqi president Saddam Hussein declared that the invasion was a response to overproduction of oil in Kuwait, which had cost Iraq an estimated billion a year when oil prices fell. Hussein also accused Kuwait of illegally pumping oil from Iraq's Rumaila oil field.
The UN Security Council called for Iraq to withdraw and subsequently embargoed most trade with Iraq. On Aug. 7, U.S. troops moved into Saudi Arabia to protect Saudi oil fields. On Nov. 29, the United Nations set Jan. 15, 1991, as the deadline for a peaceful withdrawal of Iraqi troops from Kuwait. When Saddam Hussein refused to comply, Operation Desert Storm was launched on Jan. 18, 1991, under the leadership of U.S. Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf.
The U.S.-led coalition began a massive air war to destroy Iraq's forces and military and civil infrastructure. Iraq called for terrorist attacks against the coalition and launched Scud missiles at Israel (in an unsuccessful attempt to widen the war and break up the coalition) and at Saudi Arabia. The main coalition forces invaded Kuwait and S Iraq on Feb. 24 and, over the next four days, encircled and defeated the Iraqis and liberated Kuwait. When U.S. President George H. W. Bush declared a cease-fire on Feb. 28, most of the Iraqi forces in Kuwait had either surrendered or fled.
Although the war was a decisive military victory for the coalition, Kuwait and Iraq suffered enormous property damage, and Saddam Hussein was not removed from power. In fact, Hussein was free to turn his attention to suppressing internal Shiite and Kurd revolts, which the U.S.-led coalition did not support, in part because of concerns over the possible breakup of Iraq if the revolts were successful. Coalition peace terms were agreed to by Iraq, but every effort was made by the Iraqis to frustrate implementation of the terms, particularly UN weapons inspections...
The Second Persian Gulf War, also known as the Iraq War, Mar.–Apr., 2003, was a largely U.S.-British invasion of Iraq. In many ways the final, delayed campaign of the First Persian Gulf War, it arose in part because the Iraqi government failed to cooperate fully with UN weapons inspections in the years following the first conflict.
The election of George W. Bush to the U.S. presidency returned to government many officials from his father's administration who had favored removing Saddam Hussein from power in the first war. After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, the United States moved toward a doctrine of first-strike, pre-emptive war to eliminate threats to national security.
In October, Congress approved the use of force against Iraq, and in November the Security Council passed a resolution offering Iraq a "final opportunity" to cooperate on arms inspections.
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Doez youz need the term CATALYST defined for youz? Look it up yourself.
your point eludes me.

just like it did for 69,498,516 of us.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#872401 Mar 12, 2013
Rand Paul, the junior senator from Kentucky, is drawing attention as a potential Republican candidate for president come 2016, part of a new generation of GOP leadership.

But ladies and gentlemen, Rand Paul is also a bit of a nut. The deep streak of paranoia that he displayed for almost 13 hours on the Senate floor last week would, in ordinary times, disqualify him as a party leader, let alone a potential president. But sadly, these are not ordinary times.

Let’s start by admitting that the stunt itself was a nice piece of political stagecraft. The one-man, TV-friendly filibuster gave Paul the opportunity to play Jimmy Stewart, a lone hero standing up in defense of the Constitution. It’s the type of role that Paul covets.

However, if you’re going to grandstand on the national stage like that, shouldn’t you have something sane to say?

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03...
Cway

United States

#872402 Mar 12, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush left behind a trainwreck.
You admit it and that's a start.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#872403 Mar 12, 2013
Fight Club vs. the Weenie Brigade

I can only guess that all those Republicans in the House doing P90X have been dabbling in supplements that have shrunk their testicular fortitude to fight.

We need more members of the conservative fight club in congress and less in the weenie brigade.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/12/fight-club...
Cway

United States

#872404 Mar 12, 2013
Jimmy wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama has us sinking in the Titanic and you're in steerage. As far as the budget goes, Obama's budgets were and are a joke, just like you, moron.
Gee, Jimmy.

Bite my tongue. You Retardicans are the bestest political party in the whole, wide world.

You never do anything wrong, do you?
The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872405 Mar 12, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush left behind a trainwreck.
As far as the budget goes, Republicans in Congress are being as obstructive as possible.
If Obamacare was such a disaster, you'll have to explain why Obama got re-elected.
I can't comment on the incident in Libya, but I suspect it's the usual GOP politicizing of tragedy.
Of course it's Bush's fault that more people need government assistance. That's what recessions do.
And yes, it's Bush's fault that 6 trillion more has been added to the federal debt. With the number of people out of work, the two unfinished wars Obama's had to deal with, the bank bail-outs, AIG and General Motors bail-outs, it's all added up.
If you look at Clinton's watch, the national debt went from 4.1 to 5.7 trillion. And he left Bush a balanced annual budget. Bush ran that balanced budget from zero to over a trillion in the red each year. And the national debt from 5.7 to 11.4 trillion.
This disaster has your fingerprints all over it.
Bush increased the size of government and increased government
spending.
Obama increased the size government and increased government
spending.

How IS one of them horribly wrong, and the other one is so brilliant?
They both did the same thing.

Let me guess...the changes Bush did in the tax rates
Well...I have news for you...they all make changes
in the tax rates.
Let me guess again....the wars, well we have wars before and we will have them again.

You libs need a new tune.
ITS BUSH FAULT!!
ITS BUSH FAULT!!
ITS BUSH FAULT!!
You libs sound like a bunch 6 year olds.
Blame Blame BLAME....ITS ALL YOU GOT.
Real adults and real leaders take responsibility.
NJ raider 1

Baltimore, MD

#872406 Mar 12, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
So is that why your broke. You believe that if you spend all the money in your checking account it will multiply and generate additional funds. You shouldn't insult the retarded, as they appear to be much more intellectually adept than you.
You tell me Asshole what you got more than I have! I'll answer that for you, NOTHING!!! You have a house, so do I & mind you I'm 34. You have cars, so do I. Money, got that too! Broke, far from it. I'm from the hood we don't do the broke thing. If I don't have a job my bills still get paid & it's even logic in the streets stupid, you gotta spend money to make money. In order to supply a product, one must first produce it. In order to produce it one must first buy the supplies. Supply & demand. Maybe you never heard of the concept!
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872407 Mar 12, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
You admit it and that's a start.
And you continue to deny your messiah's complicity in the mess going forward. Typical liberal ... take no responsibility and deny even in the face of facts.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#872409 Mar 12, 2013
Paul Ryan’s make-believe budget

If Rep. Paul Ryan wants people to take his budget manifestos seriously, he should be honest about his ambition: not so much to make the federal government fiscally sustainable as to make it smaller.

You will recall that the Ryan Budget was a big Republican selling point in last year’s election. Most famously, Ryan proposed turning Medicare into a voucher program. He offered the usual GOP recipe of tax cuts — to be offset by closing certain loopholes, which he would not specify — along with drastic reductions in non-defense “discretionary” spending.

If the plan Ryan offered had been enacted, the federal budget would not come into balance until 2040. For some reason, Republicans forgot to mention this detail in their stump speeches and campaign ads.

Voters were supposed to believe that Ryan was an apostle of fiscal rectitude. But his real aim wasn’t to balance the budget. It was to starve the federal government of revenue. Big government, in his worldview, is inherently bad — never mind that we live in an awfully big country.

Ryan and Mitt Romney offered their vision, President Obama offered his, and Americans made their choice. Rather emphatically.

Now Ryan, as chairman of the House Budget Committee, is coming back with an ostensibly new and improved version of the framework that voters rejected in November. Judging by the preview he offered Sunday, the new plan is even less grounded in reality than was the old one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#872410 Mar 12, 2013
House conservatives: GOP leadership killed measure to defund Obamacare
http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-conservat...

Appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” Ryan said his plan assumes that the far-reaching reforms known as Obamacare will be repealed. Host Chris Wallace reacted with open disbelief:“That’s not going to happen.”

Indeed, to take Ryan seriously is to believe that legislation repealing the landmark Affordable Care Act would be approved by the Senate, with its Democratic majority, and signed by Obama. What are the odds? That’s a clown question, bro.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene...
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#872411 Mar 12, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
your point eludes me.
just like it did for 69,498,516 of us.
Damn, you have that many personas? Try a good psychiatrist!
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872412 Mar 12, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Paul Ryan’s make-believe budget
If Rep. Paul Ryan wants people to take his budget manifestos seriously, he should be honest about his ambition: not so much to make the federal government fiscally sustainable as to make it smaller.
You will recall that the Ryan Budget was a big Republican selling point in last year’s election. Most famously, Ryan proposed turning Medicare into a voucher program. He offered the usual GOP recipe of tax cuts — to be offset by closing certain loopholes, which he would not specify — along with drastic reductions in non-defense “discretionary” spending.
If the plan Ryan offered had been enacted, the federal budget would not come into balance until 2040. For some reason, Republicans forgot to mention this detail in their stump speeches and campaign ads.
Voters were supposed to believe that Ryan was an apostle of fiscal rectitude. But his real aim wasn’t to balance the budget. It was to starve the federal government of revenue. Big government, in his worldview, is inherently bad — never mind that we live in an awfully big country.
Ryan and Mitt Romney offered their vision, President Obama offered his, and Americans made their choice. Rather emphatically.
Now Ryan, as chairman of the House Budget Committee, is coming back with an ostensibly new and improved version of the framework that voters rejected in November. Judging by the preview he offered Sunday, the new plan is even less grounded in reality than was the old one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene...
More chatter from the losers on the left with their hands out for money earned by others.

Are any of you losers able to stand on your own two feet without the government their to prop you worthless A$$ up. All hail the 47%
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#872413 Mar 12, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Rand Paul, the junior senator from Kentucky, is drawing attention as a potential Republican candidate for president come 2016, part of a new generation of GOP leadership.
But ladies and gentlemen, Rand Paul is also a bit of a nut. The deep streak of paranoia that he displayed for almost 13 hours on the Senate floor last week would, in ordinary times, disqualify him as a party leader, let alone a potential president. But sadly, these are not ordinary times.
Let’s start by admitting that the stunt itself was a nice piece of political stagecraft. The one-man, TV-friendly filibuster gave Paul the opportunity to play Jimmy Stewart, a lone hero standing up in defense of the Constitution. It’s the type of role that Paul covets.
However, if you’re going to grandstand on the national stage like that, shouldn’t you have something sane to say?
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/03...
That guy from Genoa might make a good Pope too!(see the couple in there with bioethics backgrounds, one with metaphysics too!)

Waiting fer the white smoke-I prefers it, less unatural contaminents!
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#872414 Mar 12, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>You've been seeing unlicensed ones, apparently. Does your wife know?
Massages fade, shovelhead dumb and stupid is forever..
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#872415 Mar 12, 2013
Picks head up off of desk and sighs.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#872416 Mar 12, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
More chatter from the losers on the left with their hands out for money earned by others.
Are any of you losers able to stand on your own two feet without the government their to prop you worthless A$$ up. All hail the 47%
another Reagan hater.
The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872417 Mar 12, 2013
Cway wrote:
<quoted text>
Put federal marshalls on flights. Tenet's August 6, 2001 PDB mentioned FBI sources which described preparations for hijackings. The source was likely the agents who were tipped off about the Arab students learning to fly, but not land.
<quoted text>
Libby did no jail time and Bush immediately commuted the criminal part of his sentence. Some reporter did a short stint. I think that's about it. Please don't tell me this was adequate punishment.
<quoted text>
Bush inherited a healthy budget and not only wrecked it, but the economy as well. No, Obama didn't borrow any plays out your playbook. He has had to react to a bad situation.
<quoted text>
Bush and Cheney pushed those accusations to the hilt, but no such violations were revealed once Iraq was occupied.
<quoted text>
Oh, come on. Republicans became big spenders starting with Reagan.
<quoted text>
The crash was brought about by a real estate bubble and credit default swaps. The real estate bubbble was fueled by bad lending policies of the banks, which were voluntary, not forced.
The Republican Party controlled Congress and the White House during this period and did nothing to address these issues.
<quoted text>
History suggests otherwise. FDR took us out of the Great Depression. There was a second dip in unemployment from 1938 to 1941 caused by a cutback in government spending. But this eased by late 1941 and unemployment dropped down to 10%. WW II took care of the rest.
The administration of John Kennedy saw prosperous times.
Contrary to GOP beliefs, it was Paul Volcker who created the recession during the second half of Carter's tenure. In an effort to knock down inflation, Volcker raised the prime rate to something around 20%. It eventually reduced inflation, but its immediate impact was that corporations decided not to borrow and cut back their work forces. You know the rest.
There was an economic boom during the Clinton years, although he did leave office with a moderate recession.
As far as Reagan goes, much of the boom he achieved came from military spending and large annual deficits. It was not sustainable.
Some I would agree with you on and some I would not agree with you.
But I like the fact you made your case....instead of the silly
everything was all Bush's fault.
Its has been more then four years now...and its a old tune.
Besides....you libs don't seem to understand that few conservatives
defend Bush.
Bush did leave office with something like a 35% approval rating.
Kinda tells us that Conservatives were not to happy with Bush
just like most other Americans.
Keep in mind that Bush was pretty just as much as a motivating
factor for the Tea Party as Obama was.

“God bless you, Mr. President”

Since: Jul 08

Peaceful, prosperous second

#872418 Mar 12, 2013
new yawk wrote:
I noticed right after the election, the liberals became rabid reptiles. Working off of their Reptilian Brains while the higher Brain Functions and Processes have been suppressed.
I don't know where ***she comes up with this crazy stuff, LIES.
And for what purpose. I believe there really is something ***Mentally Disordered in leo's brain.
I'm not being facetious.
Like you ( have ), I've also observed it.
***Applicable to The Others as well.
<quoted text>
Oh, you "two"! <rolls eyes, shakes head> This is where I got it. http://www.topix.com/forum/city/fort-lauderda...

You can read (perhaps an unwarranted assumption on my part) through and find Methmouth Majority posting most of Saturday with a New York ip...kinda' thought s/he was crazy Jane, but the "tribe" has a thousand clowns, so what-ev...

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