Barack Obama, our next President

There are 20 comments on the Nov 5, 2008, Hampton Roads Daily Press story titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872354 Mar 12, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>We're well into the recovery stooge at least according to all but a couple economic indicators which are related.
Housing and unemployment?
Housing is way off due to the overbuilding and over financing made
possible by the lack of oversight during the Bush era that allowed folks such as Angelo Mozilo to run wild. And___unemployment in the construction and related arena's still hovers at over 16% nationally and much higher in the explosive growth areas, FL, NV etc.
Further, during the Bush era the construction industry was even further propelled by weather calamities such as a half dozen hurricanes in Florida which caused massive damage, and of course the big one Katrina.
Obviously a POTUS has no control over ugly weather but weather does impact the economy both ways.
I hope we are in a recovery....not so sure about that just yet.
Economic indicators can distorted for political gain.
The subprime problem was caused by FED government regulation.

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Cway

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#872355 Mar 12, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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The original disagreement was whether FDR ordered the internment and NOT whether Executive Order 9066 contained the label Japanese Americans.
The only evidence you have is 9066 and it doesn't support you.

General DeWitt's order of May 3, 1942 fully supports my contention that the military came up with the idea of placing Japanese-Americans in camps.

9066 made clear the military had the right to create security zones around certain bases and exclude anyone they wished from those zones.

What the military did went far beyond this. They turned the entire West Coast into a military zone.

If you fail to comprehend this as a grotesque ursurpation of power, then you're hopeless. The military clearly bent the rules with a vengeance because it was they who wanted Japanese-Americans behind barbed wire.

I will further add that the internment process began with DeWitt's order and not before.

You are totally busted.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872356 Mar 12, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Calling a black man "boy" is a racial slur.
defending it just paints you with the same brush.
Thanks for demonstrating your simple minded thought process. Not surprising since the victim mentality is the bread and butter of the liberals in this country.

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The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872358 Mar 12, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Satire, or sarcasm?
No just my opinion.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872359 Mar 12, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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No in our society calling a black man"boy' is racist. You are just so inbred with your racism, you think its natural.
You & your racist F*ck buddies here can pretend & make up all the excuses you want. It doesn't change that you are posting racial slurs. And you know it.
Pull your skirt down little girl, your liberalism is showing.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872360 Mar 12, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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How many jobs were lost on February of 2009, dumbass.
To state how many jobs were lost in a given month does not imply that the same number was lost per month for a yer.
Just how GD dumb are you?
Total employment is not down under Obama.
Your report is from 2010. It took all of 2009 to take the Bush job losses from 750,000 to zero.
Not surprising if your not crying racist for some obscure reason your blaming Bush for all your "BOYS'" failures.

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PDUPONT

Amherst, MA

#872361 Mar 12, 2013
carol wrote:
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Everyone on the left keeps pointing frantically at the numbers slowly creeping up completely forgetting about the impending Obamacare disaster that's right around the corner that will hit us like a freight train. Didn't things seem to start looking up right before the Great Depression?
How can anyone see half the country on some kind of welfare, millions still out of work, and no hope on the horizon of employers hiring anytime soon as a good sign?
Do they really think Obamacare is going to make this economy better?
I just don't get it. The depth of denial I mean.
Your ignorant obsession with "Obamacare" is really getting tiresome Carol. Yes Carol it's a total disaster when a cancer patient on chemotherapy doesn't have to worry about their treatment being terminated because they've reached an arbitrary lifetime cap. It's a disaster when the parents of a child born with a birth defect will be able to get medical insurance and not go bankrupt because of medical bills. It's a disaster that when my son turns 21 at the end of the month we won't be hit with the expense of another policy. It's a disaster that big insurance will have to pay out 80% of the revenue they receive on actual healthcare instead of padding executive salaries. It's a real disaster that preventative care like annual checkups are included that can spot a medical condition before it gets worse and more expensive to treat.
The conditions that caused the Great Depression are very different today than they were in 1929. Stocks can no longer be bought on margin and bank deposits are insured preventing depositors from losing all of their life savings in the event of bank failures.
Your assertion that half the people in this country are on some kind of welfare is just a bald faced lie. Retirees on social security paid into the system. I've been paying into it for over 40 years since I got my first job back in high school. Do you consider disabled veterans who put their lives on the line so that you can be free to spew your stupidity on some kind of welfare? No they earned it it the most extreme way possible.
You just don't get anything Carol, you've had your head stuck in the right wing echo chamber far too long.

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Cway

United States

#872362 Mar 12, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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So...a predatory loan is something that a bank sells to an unworthy debtor so that they can have the debtor default and cause said bank to lose money. Sounds like Stupid having fun. Like you!
Duh!
Hey! The Story Man! Howya dooin?
Hey, I'm doing fine, dufus.

Let's see...

The bank keeps the down payments and gets possession of a home at a time when homes are going up in value.

Get it now, dufus?

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872363 Mar 12, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
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Your ignorant obsession with "Obamacare" is really getting tiresome Carol. Yes Carol it's a total disaster when a cancer patient on chemotherapy doesn't have to worry about their treatment being terminated because they've reached an arbitrary lifetime cap. It's a disaster when the parents of a child born with a birth defect will be able to get medical insurance and not go bankrupt because of medical bills. It's a disaster that when my son turns 21 at the end of the month we won't be hit with the expense of another policy. It's a disaster that big insurance will have to pay out 80% of the revenue they receive on actual healthcare instead of padding executive salaries. It's a real disaster that preventative care like annual checkups are included that can spot a medical condition before it gets worse and more expensive to treat.
The conditions that caused the Great Depression are very different today than they were in 1929. Stocks can no longer be bought on margin and bank deposits are insured preventing depositors from losing all of their life savings in the event of bank failures.
Your assertion that half the people in this country are on some kind of welfare is just a bald faced lie. Retirees on social security paid into the system. I've been paying into it for over 40 years since I got my first job back in high school. Do you consider disabled veterans who put their lives on the line so that you can be free to spew your stupidity on some kind of welfare? No they earned it it the most extreme way possible.
You just don't get anything Carol, you've had your head stuck in the right wing echo chamber far too long.
Why is it that the liberals any time the mention of the 47% or anything similar comes around, decide that the entire group is made up of the elderly and veterans? Why is it that they never address the obvious dead weight living off of these programs?

Is is because most are participants in these programs? One has to wonder, even in the face of their protests that they are not.

Just as an FYI ... if your trying to assert that because you worked for 40 years that you , or others, somehow deserve welfare, food stamps and the like, you only reinforce the image of the liberal loser.

The taker mentality at it's height. I'm sure your parents must be proud. Are they on welfare too?

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The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872364 Mar 12, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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If you don't pay federal income taxes, then you don't have any skin in the game and have no right to determine how our money is spent.
Just take your welfare money, be thankful for it, and STFU.
I agree with you about Fed. income taxes.
Way too many people have a zero tax liability on this tax, infact
many fall into the Earned income tax credit bracket
(welfare in the tax code).....We have the Republicans to thank
for that nonsense.

Its one of the reasons I like Michele Bachmann so much, she
was one the few that made it clear that are tax code was a problem
in that regards.
That I like how she said the min. wage was way too high.

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The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872365 Mar 12, 2013
Jimmy wrote:
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Leosn "an" a thrives on hate & venom. A perfect leftist Waffen SS Disciple.
Well Rush has always said that libs are angry and unhappy people.
Perhaps there is some truth to that.

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Cway

United States

#872366 Mar 12, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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Not surprising if your not crying racist for some obscure reason your blaming Bush for all your "BOYS'" failures.
Was Bush's failure to heed DCI George Tenet's warning of an impending terror attack given six weeks our failure?

Was outing a covert CIA agent our failure?

Was doubling the national debt from 5.7 to 11.4 trillion our failure?

Was launching a war-by-lies in Iraq our failure?

Was the recession which according to the GAO began in December, 2007, was that our failure?

And which blossomed into 500,000 lost jobs per month by the time Bush left, was that our failure as well?

Was the failure of the GOP congressional majority from 2003-2007 and the White House to rein in bad lending practices our fault?

NO to all of the above. Face it, elephants. You fcked up and the voters know it.

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Cway

United States

#872367 Mar 12, 2013
Given six weeks in advance.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872368 Mar 12, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Was Bush's failure to heed DCI George Tenet's warning of an impending terror attack given six weeks our failure?
Was outing a covert CIA agent our failure?
Was doubling the national debt from 5.7 to 11.4 trillion our failure?
Was launching a war-by-lies in Iraq our failure?
Was the recession which according to the GAO began in December, 2007, was that our failure?
And which blossomed into 500,000 lost jobs per month by the time Bush left, was that our failure as well?
Was the failure of the GOP congressional majority from 2003-2007 and the White House to rein in bad lending practices our fault?
NO to all of the above. Face it, elephants. You fcked up and the voters know it.
Is it Bush’s fault that the Democrat controlled Senate has not passed a budget since 2009?

Is it Bush’s fault that the Democrats partisan passed Obamacare and stated that you have to pass it to see what’s in it?

Was it Bush’s fault that our current administration ignored the pleas of our representatives in Lybia for security and ultimately became complicit in their deaths?

What is Bush’s fault that Welfare roll have doubled during the current administration?

Was it Bush’s fault that the current administration continually lies to the American public in direct opposition to their claims to be the most transparent administration?

Was it Bush’s fault that Obama has added 6 trillion to the debt since taking office?

No to all of the above, Face it “A$$es” You fck up and the real Americans know it

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The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872369 Mar 12, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Stop being such a dummy:
Right now, a sustainable deficit would be around $460 billion. The actual deficit is bigger than that. But according to new estimates by the budget office, half of our current deficit reflects the effects of a still-depressed economy. The “cyclically adjusted” deficit — what the deficit would be if we were near full employment — is only about $423 billion, which puts it in the sustainable range; next year the budget office expects that number to fall to just $172 billion. And that’s why budget office projections show the nation’s debt position more or less stable over the next decade.
So we do not, repeat do not, face any kind of deficit crisis either now or for years to come
Put it this way: Smart fiscal policy involves having the government spend when the private sector won’t, supporting the economy when it is weak and reducing debt only when it is strong. Yet the cyclically adjusted deficit as a share of G.D.P. is currently about what it was in 2006, at the height of the housing boom — and it is headed down.
Yes, we’ll want to reduce deficits once the economy recovers, and there are gratifying signs that a solid recovery is finally under way. But unemployment, especially long-term unemployment, is still unacceptably high.“The boom, not the slump, is the time for austerity,” John Maynard Keynes declared many years ago. He was right — all you have to do is look at Europe to see the disastrous effects of austerity on weak economies. And this is still nothing like a boom.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/opinion/kru...
well I place no faith in the budget office or most so called
budget experts.
The budget office is once again wrong.
A thriving economy would go along way in brining the budget in line.
But increased taxes and increased FED spending and increased
FED regs is the wrong way to get the economy moving again.

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Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#872370 Mar 12, 2013
Cway wrote:
Given six weeks in advance.
Hopefully that would be your advance notice to exit the welfare rolls.

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The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872371 Mar 12, 2013
Cway wrote:
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Was Bush's failure to heed DCI George Tenet's warning of an impending terror attack given six weeks our failure?
Was outing a covert CIA agent our failure?
Was doubling the national debt from 5.7 to 11.4 trillion our failure?
Was launching a war-by-lies in Iraq our failure?
Was the recession which according to the GAO began in December, 2007, was that our failure?
And which blossomed into 500,000 lost jobs per month by the time Bush left, was that our failure as well?
Was the failure of the GOP congressional majority from 2003-2007 and the White House to rein in bad lending practices our fault?
NO to all of the above. Face it, elephants. You fcked up and the voters know it.
1.well what would you suggest that Bush should have done with the warning?
2.People went prison for outing the agent.
3.Obama sure took a page out of the Bush play book in regards
to national debt....but that ok..RIGHT?
4.Iraq was not in compliance with its surrender agreement.
5.Yes it was our fault....because we let these leader govern
with a liberal progressive agenda.
6. job loses was not our fault...just result of a crashed economy,
brought on by poor liberal policy.
7. Think you may want to take a look at the time line when
these lending practices were started.

Face it liberal progressive policies have screwed everything up, and voters will start to understand that.

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NJ raider 1

Baltimore, MD

#872372 Mar 12, 2013
The Slayer wrote:
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I agree with you about Fed. income taxes.
Way too many people have a zero tax liability on this tax, infact
many fall into the Earned income tax credit bracket
(welfare in the tax code).....We have the Republicans to thank
for that nonsense.
Its one of the reasons I like Michele Bachmann so much, she
was one the few that made it clear that are tax code was a problem
in that regards.
That I like how she said the min. wage was way too high.
If the min wage is to high for folks that perform labors your old ass probably couldn't then there's something totally wrong with not only Americas workforce, but the minds of Americans! That is one if not the stupidest claims ever asserted. A company that makes millions in profits deserves to not only invest in his/her company, but the battery of the company, the people that make it work! The price of living rises every year, so should peoples wages. Otherwise we'll be stuck in the same cycle, the rich get rich & the poor stay poor without a chance of moving up. Meanwhile you assholes applaud wall st & there million dollar bonuses for basically rolling the dice with peoples hard earned money. The downfall of every empire was not socialism, it was greed STUPID!

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NJ raider 1

Baltimore, MD

#872373 Mar 12, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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Is it Bush’s fault that the Democrat controlled Senate has not passed a budget since 2009?
Is it Bush’s fault that the Democrats partisan passed Obamacare and stated that you have to pass it to see what’s in it?
Was it Bush’s fault that our current administration ignored the pleas of our representatives in Lybia for security and ultimately became complicit in their deaths?
What is Bush’s fault that Welfare roll have doubled during the current administration?
Was it Bush’s fault that the current administration continually lies to the American public in direct opposition to their claims to be the most transparent administration?
Was it Bush’s fault that Obama has added 6 trillion to the debt since taking office?
No to all of the above, Face it “A$$es” You fck up and the real Americans know it
How can I put it so the retarded can understand? YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY!!! IF BUSH HADN'T F CKED EVERYTHING UP SO BAD, OBAMA WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY TO STOP THE BLEEDING! If you recall bush used or inserted the first stimulus right before he was pushed out the door & it failed miserably. All the while Obama was screaming through media outlets," it's not enough." Proved to be right too! See it's only common sense the president had to throw money at the problem to make it stop whether bush/Obama, the problem was competence. Obama knew what it took to stop the decline, bush wasted more of Americas tax dollars, but that's nothing new right?

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The Slayer

Findlay, OH

#872374 Mar 12, 2013
NJ raider 1 wrote:
<quoted text> If the min wage is to high for folks that perform labors your old ass probably couldn't then there's something totally wrong with not only Americas workforce, but the minds of Americans! That is one if not the stupidest claims ever asserted. A company that makes millions in profits deserves to not only invest in his/her company, but the battery of the company, the people that make it work! The price of living rises every year, so should peoples wages. Otherwise we'll be stuck in the same cycle, the rich get rich & the poor stay poor without a chance of moving up. Meanwhile you assholes applaud wall st & there million dollar bonuses for basically rolling the dice with peoples hard earned money. The downfall of every empire was not socialism, it was greed STUPID!
Well I don't agree with any of your post.
You don't seem to understand basic free market capitalism.
The min. wage changes nothing in the form of living standard
for those who receive it.
A low skill entry level job will always pay a low standard of
living wage, no matter what min. wage is.
The State could make the min. wage 25.00 dollars an hour,
and still changes nothing for those who earn min. wage.
Well....I take that back...it screws things up.
Negative things happen as a result of high min. wage.
Fewer low skill entry level jobs and higher prices
for the rest of us.
My opinion.... a news paper delivery boy wage should not
be the same as a highly skilled nurse....but that is for
the market decide.
Get rid of the min. wage and let the market decide wages and prices.

But libs don't seem to want trust the market....for some odd
reason you seem to think we will all be in poverty if we trust
the market.
Fact is a Hospital needs a surgeon, and they cant find one that
will work for less then fair market value, then that
Hospital will have to pay more.
See its really quite simple to understand, if you drop
the class envy nonsense.

Get rid of the min. wage...we don't need it.
And we would all be better off.

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