Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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carol

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Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>What makes your credibility so questionable, Carol, is you scream at the top of your lungs about Obama increasing the deficit after Bush's recession, I'd say in terms of real dollars the amounts were similar(Obama vs. Reagan) where as the depths to which Bush sunk us were much greater than what Carter left Reagan.
And how did Reagan end the recession? Answer gov't spending. Oh and then he raised taxes.
The conversation WAS afterall about honesty and intregrity, leave it to both you and Galt to change the subject, I don't think either of you would recognize the truth.
The comparison between Reagan's deficit and Obama's in turning a recession around is like comparing a piggy bank to Wells Fargo.

You're having a hissy fit about the piggy bank even when the economy booned within two years after Carter's recession but defend Wells Fargo even if we're teetering on the verge of The Great Depression, Part II.
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Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>You could call it that too, either works.
I called it both because they're both the same...DUH or Deny Until Hopeless.

But you're right. Either works.
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Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>The Soviet Union died from within, Carter had as much to do with their demise as Reagan, Kennedy, Eisenhower, etc.
Obama spending stopped a full blown depression dead in it's tracks and saved Homer's 401K, for that I am eternally grateful.
It is government spending and liberal policies that is the cause
of full blown depressions.

When the market is in need of a correction...its best to leave
it play its self out.

A large crash like in 2008 should have quickly recovered, but
it did not, because of what Bush and later on Obama did.
Too much spending and too much in the way of Fed. regs.

Obama prevented the recovery....he only made things much worse.
And it costed the average working American a great deal money.
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The Slayer wrote:
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My GOD...LEO, Have you ever posted something that was not
filled with venom?
Hope everything is going great with your new baby and Hubby
and your dog.
Leosn "an" a thrives on hate & venom. A perfect leftist Waffen SS Disciple.
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carol wrote:
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The deficit is 7 trillion higher than in 2008.
No president in history - even with wars and natural disasters and depressions and recessions - has raised the deficit that high with so little results.
People still talk as if the deficit were exploding, as if the United States budget were on an unsustainable path; in fact, the deficit is falling more rapidly than it has for generations, it is already down to sustainable levels, and it is too small given the state of the economy.

Start with the raw numbers. America’s budget deficit soared after the 2008 financial crisis and the recession that went with it, as revenue plunged and spending on unemployment benefits and other safety-net programs rose. And this rise in the deficit was a good thing! Federal spending helped sustain the economy at a time when the private sector was in panicked retreat; arguably, the stabilizing role of a large government was the main reason the Great Recession didn’t turn into a full replay of the Great Depression.

But after peaking in 2009 at $1.4 trillion, the deficit began coming down. The Congressional Budget Office expects the deficit for fiscal 2013 (which began in October and is almost half over) to be $845 billion. That may still sound like a big number, but given the state of the economy it really isn’t.

Bear in mind that the budget doesn’t have to be balanced to put us on a fiscally sustainable path; all we need is a deficit small enough that debt grows more slowly than the economy. To take the classic example, America never did pay off the debt from World War II — in fact, our debt doubled in the 30 years that followed the war. But debt as a percentage of G.D.P. fell by three-quarters over the same period.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/10/krugman...
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Except, this is an insecure WOMAN.
DEBIL is a WOMAN. A misogynistic WOMAN.
Who is definitely insecure and feels threatened and intimidated by you.

She has no power any more. IF she ever did.

I knew you didn't write the 'fake carol post(s)"
because you've stated both your age and your birthdate.

PS Many have taken up in your defense.
But, you did a fine job on your own, holding your ground, without compromising your principles!!

[QUOTE who="carol wrote:"]<quoted text>
Insecure men steal women's identities and locations who intimidate them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE who="fake carol wrote:"]<quoted text>
Today is my 58th birthday everyone! Give or take fifteen long and tedious years or so. Could someone explain to me why long after their wives no longer even think about it a man will still wake up suddenly in the middle of the night and want, well, you know?
"Hello, hello... Pfizer Chemical? Do you by any chance have anything... an antidote of some kind for Viagra? Do you really need to know why?... What do you mean it's a secret, these men are driving us crazy!... Really?... You mean they actually disappear?..." [/QUOTE]
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leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>Look, Goober, we realize you visited Vegas once in the '30's, but Adelson's casinos are in rampant in three continents--and he's facing charges in all of them...
If you want to see a real Goober, put up your photo as your avatar. If your outward appearance is 1/2 as ugly as your mind, it will freak people out. How is your English today, dumbfk? Are you having "an" good day?

DFL.
John Galt

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leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>But you love you some Adelson??? How much time did you spend in Manhattan, Fraudy?
More time than you might imagine.
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leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>But you love you some Adelson??? How much time did you spend in Manhattan, Fraudy?
On his one trip to Manhattan, they made fun of his overalls and he never got over it.
Most hillbilly rednecks can't hack New York; nor does New York hack them.
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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People still talk as if the deficit were exploding, as if the United States budget were on an unsustainable path; in fact, the deficit is falling more rapidly than it has for generations, it is already down to sustainable levels, and it is too small given the state of the economy.
Start with the raw numbers. America’s budget deficit soared after the 2008 financial crisis and the recession that went with it, as revenue plunged and spending on unemployment benefits and other safety-net programs rose. And this rise in the deficit was a good thing! Federal spending helped sustain the economy at a time when the private sector was in panicked retreat; arguably, the stabilizing role of a large government was the main reason the Great Recession didn’t turn into a full replay of the Great Depression.
But after peaking in 2009 at $1.4 trillion, the deficit began coming down. The Congressional Budget Office expects the deficit for fiscal 2013 (which began in October and is almost half over) to be $845 billion. That may still sound like a big number, but given the state of the economy it really isn’t.
Bear in mind that the budget doesn’t have to be balanced to put us on a fiscally sustainable path; all we need is a deficit small enough that debt grows more slowly than the economy. To take the classic example, America never did pay off the debt from World War II — in fact, our debt doubled in the 30 years that followed the war. But debt as a percentage of G.D.P. fell by three-quarters over the same period.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/10/krugman...
This thinking is like buying a new car when you can't make your mortgage payments.

Krugman is an idiot.
The Slayer

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Kinda think some good conservative tickets
in 2016 would be...
MARCO RUBIO AND Rand Paul....kinda don't like
Rubio.

Or a good ticket would be....
Rick Santorum and Marry Fallin.

Kinda think both would be a winning 2016 ticket.

GOOOOOOO RAND PAUL
lily boca raton fl

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The Slayer wrote:
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It is government spending and liberal policies that is the cause
of full blown depressions.
When the market is in need of a correction...its best to leave
it play its self out.
A large crash like in 2008 should have quickly recovered, but
it did not, because of what Bush and later on Obama did.
Too much spending and too much in the way of Fed. regs.
Obama prevented the recovery....he only made things much worse.
And it costed the average working American a great deal money.
Stop being such a dummy:

Right now, a sustainable deficit would be around $460 billion. The actual deficit is bigger than that. But according to new estimates by the budget office, half of our current deficit reflects the effects of a still-depressed economy. The “cyclically adjusted” deficit — what the deficit would be if we were near full employment — is only about $423 billion, which puts it in the sustainable range; next year the budget office expects that number to fall to just $172 billion. And that’s why budget office projections show the nation’s debt position more or less stable over the next decade.

So we do not, repeat do not, face any kind of deficit crisis either now or for years to come

Put it this way: Smart fiscal policy involves having the government spend when the private sector won’t, supporting the economy when it is weak and reducing debt only when it is strong. Yet the cyclically adjusted deficit as a share of G.D.P. is currently about what it was in 2006, at the height of the housing boom — and it is headed down.

Yes, we’ll want to reduce deficits once the economy recovers, and there are gratifying signs that a solid recovery is finally under way. But unemployment, especially long-term unemployment, is still unacceptably high.“The boom, not the slump, is the time for austerity,” John Maynard Keynes declared many years ago. He was right — all you have to do is look at Europe to see the disastrous effects of austerity on weak economies. And this is still nothing like a boom.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/opinion/kru...
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The Slayer wrote:
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It is government spending and liberal policies that is the cause
of full blown depressions.
When the market is in need of a correction...its best to leave
it play its self out.
A large crash like in 2008 should have quickly recovered, but
it did not, because of what Bush and later on Obama did.
Too much spending and too much in the way of Fed. regs.
Obama prevented the recovery....he only made things much worse.
And it costed the average working American a great deal money.
We're well into the recovery stooge at least according to all but a couple economic indicators which are related.

Housing and unemployment?

Housing is way off due to the overbuilding and over financing made
possible by the lack of oversight during the Bush era that allowed folks such as Angelo Mozilo to run wild. And___unemployment in the construction and related arena's still hovers at over 16% nationally and much higher in the explosive growth areas, FL, NV etc.

Further, during the Bush era the construction industry was even further propelled by weather calamities such as a half dozen hurricanes in Florida which caused massive damage, and of course the big one Katrina.

Obviously a POTUS has no control over ugly weather but weather does impact the economy both ways.
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Donald Trump and others have offer to Pay out of their Own Pockets to keep the WH Doors open has any Liberal/Democrat offer to join Trump?
lily boca raton fl

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carol wrote:
And, no, intercourse means communication not what you dirty minded liberals are thinking. A secure man doesn't steal a woman's name and location. He simply takes them whenever he wants to in the same way that Vikings take English and Irish women whenever they feel the need for bad teeth and horrid cooking.
Oh, I thought it meant you didn't talk during sex; not surprising.
John Galt

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The Slayer wrote:
Kinda think some good conservative tickets
in 2016 would be...
MARCO RUBIO AND Rand Paul....kinda don't like
Rubio.
Or a good ticket would be....
Rick Santorum and Marry Fallin.
Kinda think both would be a winning 2016 ticket.
GOOOOOOO RAND PAUL
Santorum is a religious wacko who would be a disaster.

The others are possibilities.
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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On his one trip to Manhattan, they made fun of his overalls and he never got over it.
Most hillbilly rednecks can't hack New York; nor does New York hack them.
Don't trip over your bottle on the way down.
lily boca raton fl

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The Slayer wrote:
Kinda think some good conservative tickets
in 2016 would be...
MARCO RUBIO AND Rand Paul....kinda don't like
Rubio.
Or a good ticket would be....
Rick Santorum and Marry Fallin.
Kinda think both would be a winning 2016 ticket.
GOOOOOOO RAND PAUL
All whiners; who the hell is Marry Falllin
lily boca raton fl

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TSM wrote:
Donald Trump and others have offer to Pay out of their Own Pockets to keep the WH Doors open has any Liberal/Democrat offer to join Trump?
fk Da Donald, who hasn't earned one dollar honestly in his life.
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Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>We're well into the recovery stooge at least according to all but a couple economic indicators which are related.
Housing and unemployment?
Housing is way off due to the overbuilding and over financing made
possible by the lack of oversight during the Bush era that allowed folks such as Angelo Mozilo to run wild. And___unemployment in the construction and related arena's still hovers at over 16% nationally and much higher in the explosive growth areas, FL, NV etc.
Further, during the Bush era the construction industry was even further propelled by weather calamities such as a half dozen hurricanes in Florida which caused massive damage, and of course the big one Katrina.
Obviously a POTUS has no control over ugly weather but weather does impact the economy both ways.
So, will massive spending for Rainstorm Sandy create a boom?

Or just go to the pockets of government unions?

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