Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#866918 Mar 2, 2013
John Boehner Doesn't Care About the Deficit

The GOP only cares about tax reduction

...House Speaker John Boehner won't support the president's offer because it includes a tax increase. Which part of the tax increase does he object to?

It can't be the deduction limit, because, according to The New York Times, Boehner as recently as December 17 was willing to support that.

It can't be the $100 billion raised by switching to a chained CPI, because, according to CNN, Boehner supported that in December, too.

By process of elimination, it must be getting rid of tax loopholes.

But wait. Didn't Boehner give a speech this week saying tax reform was one of his highest priorities? He's reserved the designation "HR 1" for an income-tax-reform bill. The animating idea of tax reform is to swap lower tax rates for getting rid of loopholes. If Obama wants to eliminate loopholes now, shouldn't Boehner be in favor of that?

Actually, no, because Boehner wants to eliminate loopholes and lower rates. Never mind that doing so would likely eliminate any deficit-reduction benefit from eliminating the loopholes, and that reducing the deficit is the only thing any serious-minded person is supposed to care about these days.

It would be absurd to think the "reform" part of tax reform consists in lowering marginal rates. You might have a case if rates were unusually high, but in fact they're quite low by historic standards. As a percentage of GDP, tax revenue hasn’t been this low since 1950!(The fiscal cliff deal bumped the top rates up, but only a little, and only on very high incomes.)

Boehner could try arguing that taxes are too progressive, and that what's needed is a tax system that's nicer to rich people and meaner to poor people. But Mitt Romney didn't have much luck with that gambit in 2012.

Inescapable conclusion: The GOP is not interested at all in tax reform, and it's only mildly interested in deficit reduction. It is mainly interested in tax reduction. All you need to do is look at the history of the past thirty-two years. The GOP has intermittently been interested in lowering the deficit whenever a Democrat was in the White House, but it has always been interested in lowering taxes. It has never not wanted to lower taxes. That's how they got so low!

The sequester can't be stopped because John Boehner thinks taxes are too high. But as we have seen, America's real problem is that taxes are too low. Historically low tax receipts go a long way toward explaining why the federal government is so broke right now. The Republicans' refusal to acknowledge this is pretty much the whole problem.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112567/joh... #

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Florida

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#866919 Mar 2, 2013
carol wrote:
While Obama is still blaming Republicans for everything that has ever gone wrong in his administration - somehow forgetting Democrats had control of Congress the last two years of the Bush administration, the first two years of the Obama administration, and who resisted any effort to rein in Fannie and Freddie for years leading up to the crisis - the Republicans washed their hands of the mess insisting the bills they passed in the last Congress to avert the cuts were passed with little to no Democratic support and were never taken up by the Senate.
So let's get this straight:
It was Republicans who tried to reign in Fannie and Freddie and Democrats who fought it every step of the way...It was Democrats who controlled Congress two years leading up to the crisis and two years after the crisis...And it was Republicans who passed bills in the House to avert the cuts with no support by the Democrats or never even taken up by the Senate.
How is anyone not getting this?
You are a very special kind of stupid aren't you?

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carol

Orlando, FL

#866920 Mar 2, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
so here's some more right wing propaganda.
Has Obama finally broken the GOP’s will?
Did Obama’s re-election break what was left of Republican will?
Consider some recent events. Republicans raised taxes in the fiscal cliff deal, and now, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell has pushed through a tax increase to pay for a new transportation bill.
Virginia GOP Rep. Scott Rigell will travel with Obama to Newport News Shipbuilding, where the president will warn of job losses associated with sequester cuts.
Republican Governors like Rick Scott and (reportedly) Chris Christie are accepting ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion.
Meanwhile, Chuck Hagel is on the verge of being the Secretary of Defense, prominent Republicans are signing up to support gay marriage, and Obama is set to meet with Sens. McCain and Graham about immigration reform.
They were once so defiant.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/26/has-obama-f...
oops. sorry. not propaganda.
The Democrats really have made a mess of things, haven't they?

First, they resisted reining in Fannie and Freddie in the face of numerous warnings in the years leading up to the crisis.

They controlled Congress prior to and after the crisis.

They never passed a budget or proposed any solutions the past four years rejecting Obama's budget proposals twice.

They didn't take up any bills passed by the House to avoid the recent embarrassment.

And they still don't want to cut spending.

So explain to me again how Democrats aren't held responsibile for any of this mess and everything - I mean everything - is simply all the Republicans' fault?

It makes things nice and tidy for the Democrats to point fingers and come out smelling like a rose, but is it really as nice and tidy as they would have you believe?

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Florida

Miami, FL

#866921 Mar 2, 2013
Kentucky hoover wrote:
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You can't be that stupid, can you?
LOL.. I'd love to have a 'battle of wits' with you...but you do appear unarmed?

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carol

Orlando, FL

#866922 Mar 2, 2013
Florida wrote:
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You are a very special kind of stupid aren't you?
You would probably look a lot less so if you could address the facts in my post as not being factual.

But you won't because you can't.

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Realtime

Cape Canaveral, FL

#866923 Mar 2, 2013
carol wrote:
While Obama is still blaming Republicans for everything that has ever gone wrong in his administration - somehow forgetting Democrats had control of Congress the last two years of the Bush administration, the first two years of the Obama administration, and who resisted any effort to rein in Fannie and Freddie for years leading up to the crisis - the Republicans washed their hands of the mess insisting the bills they passed in the last Congress to avert the cuts were passed with little to no Democratic support and were never taken up by the Senate.
So let's get this straight:
It was Republicans who tried to reign in Fannie and Freddie and Democrats who fought it every step of the way...It was Democrats who controlled Congress two years leading up to the crisis and two years after the crisis...And it was Republicans who passed bills in the House to avert the cuts with no support by the Democrats or never even taken up by the Senate.
How is anyone not getting this?
Because it's not true and simply more idiocy that you're trying to recycle for your own amusement.

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carol

Orlando, FL

#866924 Mar 2, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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not getting it?
telling the truth would help.
Let's do a who's not getting it test.

1. Did or did not the Democrats control Congress the last two years of the Bush administration and the first two years of the Obama administration before and after the crisis?

A. Did.
B. Did not.

2. Did or did not the Democrats resist any effort to rein in Fannie and Freddie in the years leading up to the crisis?

A. Did.
B. Did not.

3. Did or did not the Democrats pass a budget in the past four years?

A. Did.
B. Did not.

4. Did or did not the Senate refuse to bring up or vote on any bills passed by the House to avert the automatic spending cuts?

A. Did.
B. Did not.

The only way you could fail the "who's not getting it" test is if you weren't honest.

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Florida

Miami, FL

#866925 Mar 2, 2013
carol wrote:
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The Democrats really have made a mess of things, haven't they?
First, they resisted reining in Fannie and Freddie in the face of numerous warnings in the years leading up to the crisis.
They controlled Congress prior to and after the crisis.
They never passed a budget or proposed any solutions the past four years rejecting Obama's budget proposals twice.
They didn't take up any bills passed by the House to avoid the recent embarrassment.
And they still don't want to cut spending.
So explain to me again how Democrats aren't held responsibile for any of this mess and everything - I mean everything - is simply all the Republicans' fault?
It makes things nice and tidy for the Democrats to point fingers and come out smelling like a rose, but is it really as nice and tidy as they would have you believe?
A deranged rumor goes in your ear Polly Parrot, straight out of your mouth..

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#866926 Mar 2, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
The Democrats really have made a mess of things, haven't they?
First, they resisted reining in Fannie and Freddie in the face of numerous warnings in the years leading up to the crisis.
They controlled Congress prior to and after the crisis.
They never passed a budget or proposed any solutions the past four years rejecting Obama's budget proposals twice.
They didn't take up any bills passed by the House to avoid the recent embarrassment.
And they still don't want to cut spending.
So explain to me again how Democrats aren't held responsibile for any of this mess and everything - I mean everything - is simply all the Republicans' fault?
It makes things nice and tidy for the Democrats to point fingers and come out smelling like a rose, but is it really as nice and tidy as they would have you believe?
you're like a FOXbot robot.

The White House’s Fannie and Freddie “one-finger-salute”

A former Republican lawmaker says the White House and Greenspan sabotaged legislation aimed at fixing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

http://www.salon.com/2008/09/10/greenspan_bus...

co-sponser...Barney Frank. 2005.

i'd just say you're totally clueless, but that's not the first time i've posted that take down of another right wing myth.

so why is it you ignore facts?

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TSM

United States

#866927 Mar 2, 2013
Obama is the prodigy of Liberal Parents!! This president wouldn’t know the Truth if it Slap Him in the Face!!

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carol

Orlando, FL

#866928 Mar 2, 2013
Overseer58 wrote:
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No, Obama is not a dictator, but he sure as hell wants to be and he sure as hell acts like it when he pisses on the United States Constitution at every opportunity.
He was probably thinking "I'm not a dictator...because those stupid Republicans keep getting in my way."

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carol

Orlando, FL

#866929 Mar 2, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Because it's not true and simply more idiocy that you're trying to recycle for your own amusement.
What part isn't true? It's easy to say something isn't true if you can't explain why it isn't.

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Florida

Miami, FL

#866930 Mar 2, 2013
carol wrote:
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You would probably look a lot less so if you could address the facts in my post as not being factual.
But you won't because you can't.
A deranged rumor goes in your ear Polly Parrot, straight out of your mouth..

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Milw TaXpayer

Racine, WI

#866933 Mar 2, 2013
Jay Carney Admits Sequester Was The President's Idea ...
www.realclearpolitics.com/.../02/12/jay_carne ... Carney Admits Sequester Was The President's Idea. JAY CARNEY:...

SOTU: President Says Sequester ‘A Really Bad Idea’ Hours After ...
patdollard.com/...sequester-a...after-carney -...» Politics » SOTU: President Says Sequester ‘A Really Bad Idea’

Hours After Carney Admits It Was Obama’s Idea
Obama says sequester a ‘really bad idea’ hours after Carney ...
www.conservativenewscentral.com/2013/02/obama ... says sequester a ‘really bad idea’ hours after Carney admits it was Obama’s plan. February 13, 2013.... Tags Barack Obama, Jay Carney, Sequester.

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gauley bridge wv

#866934 Mar 2, 2013
SpacePortAmerica

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#866935 Mar 2, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's do a who's not getting it test.
1. Did or did not the Democrats control Congress the last two years of the Bush administration and the first two years of the Obama administration before and after the crisis?
A. Did.
B. Did not.
2. Did or did not the Democrats resist any effort to rein in Fannie and Freddie in the years leading up to the crisis?
A. Did.
B. Did not.
3. Did or did not the Democrats pass a budget in the past four years?
A. Did.
B. Did not.
4. Did or did not the Senate refuse to bring up or vote on any bills passed by the House to avert the automatic spending cuts?
A. Did.
B. Did not.
The only way you could fail the "who's not getting it" test is if you weren't honest.
1. Crisis started in 2001.

2. Did not.

3. Obama submitted budgets. Republicans and Democrats decided not to pass them. Reasons?.....
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

4. Spending bills are supposed to originate in the House no matter the theater act put on by 'no one can blame me if I try to blame everyone else' Boehner.

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dem

United States

#866936 Mar 2, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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True, until Christie kissed Obama. So what? The collapse of the Episcopal Church as a result of leftwing theology is a reality.
A mediocre ex-governor would have made a mediocre president, don't blame christie for the budget deficits romney had as ex-governor of massachussetts, america was just not ready for another recession cutting taxes to the wealthy and multiplying the national deficit, we spoke , and is for the best.

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carol

Orlando, FL

#866941 Mar 2, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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The Jerk-In-Chief treats the country the same way he treats the deficit: "Hell, it ain't *MY* money!!"
Funny you should say that. I was reminded last night of the movie "Trading Places" when Eddie Murphy conned everyone until he was given Dan Akroyd's home and all his valuable things.

When he invited his friends over for a party, he became very obsessive about them stealing his things and trashing his home.

That's how I see this president. He doesn't see this country as his home. It's more of an experiment to test his personal vision. If everything is destroyed in the process, oh well. He has no personal connection or vestment in it anyway.

In fact, I think he even resents the "home" he was given charge over. That's my honest opinion.

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Since: May 11

Waynesboro, PA

#866942 Mar 2, 2013
WILL OBAMA LIE AGAIN wrote:
In an effort to remove the hot-potato issue of excessive government spending from the 2012 presidential campaign, and calling the bluff of congressional Republicans who always seem to favor domestic spending cuts but increased military spending, President Obama suggested the concept of "sequester" in late 2011.
His idea was to reduce the rate of increased spending by 2 percent across the board—on domestic and military spending. To his surprise, the Republicans went along with this. They did so either because they lacked the political fortitude and the political will to designate specifically the unconstitutional and pork barrel federal spending projects to be cut, or because they thought that with the debt of the federal government then approaching $15 trillion (it is now $16.6 trillion and growing), any reductions in spending money the government doesn't have are preferred to no reductions. So, instead of enacting a budget, and instead of recognizing that much of its spending is simply not authorized by the Constitution, Congress enacted the so-called sequester legislation, and the president signed it into law.
The reductions the sequesters require are reductions in the rate of increased spending from those originally planned by Obama and authorized by Congress. Since the federal government has not had a budget in four years, even though federal law requires it to have one every year, these are planned expenditures, not budgetary items, on which the president wants to spend more money. Congress does not feel bound to obey the laws it has written; hence it has disregarded the legal requirement of a budget. Without a budget, the president has great leeway as to how to allocate funds within each department of the executive branch of the federal government.
Nevertheless, even if these sequesters do kick in, the feds will spend more in 2013 than they spent in 2012. That's because the sequesters are not cuts to spending; rather, they are reductions in planned increases in spending. The reductions amount to about two cents for every planned dollar of increased spending for every federal department.
The question remains: What part of each federal department (Justice, Defense, Homeland Security, Agriculture, etc.) will suffer these reduced increases? Here is where this sequester experiment gets dicey.
The president—who once championed the idea of sequesters and even threatened to veto any congressional effort to dismantle them—now has decided he can't live without that additional 2 percent to spend. So, he has gone about the country trying to scare the daylights out of people: Prisoners will be released from federal prisons, soldiers won't have enough bullets in their weapons, we will need to endure five-hour waiting lines at the airports, Social Security checks will be late, and similar nonsense.
The purpose of the sequester was to force Congress to act. To act to make spending cuts in a way not to harm the economy.

Part of that was to form a committee to decide where these cuts would take place. They failed.

Then Congress failed.

What Obama promised to Veto was any plan that avoided the sequester by dodging making any cuts at all. Congress could have just repealed the sequester.

You right whiners should think about quit lying abut these things & look at your own dysfunctional party.

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#866945 Mar 2, 2013
Tax Reform Now GOP Excuse Not to Negotiate

Obama has turned this rhetoric back on the Republicans. You hate all these special interest breaks, you say? Okay, why don’t we close some of them, in return for the entitlement cuts you say are so vital. And in fact Republicans don’t actually want to cut any loopholes out of the tax code at all. This has left them stuck.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/03/...

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