Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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Cutting taxes has the same effect as raising the minimum wage...it puts more money in people's pockets, yet these loony left wingers will fight tooth and nail to raise taxes. they're crazy.
People making minimum wages should pay no taxes
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Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>No it formed a new state called West Virginia which was not allowed by the Consitution, note the name 'West', if it were still the same state why the name change?
Homer will soon be arrested for cruelty to horses.
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Pant suits don't turn you on? lol
I guess it's better than looking at her Tree Stump ankles.

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<quoted text>There can be no new legislature as there was already an existing legislator of the state of Virginia, be it an absentia or whatever. You can only make that case if the state of Virginia no longer existed which they never did. Virginia was never considered to no longer be part of the United States. Following the very specific requirements of the Constitution West Virginia, as it was created from parts of another state without their approval, it should not have been allowed.
If the state of Virginia had been recognized as no longer being a part of the United States then the formation of the state of West Virginia would have been Constitutional.
The legislature was comprised of those representatives that didn't participate in the rebellion. Thus, there was in existence a legislature.
This legislature comprised of representatives that didn't participate in the rebellion became the legitimate representation in the federal republic. Those legislators that participated in the rebellion and became a functioning element in a different country were never acknowledged by the federal republic, thus they were not the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia.
Those legislators who remained loyal to the federal republic were the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia.
Those legislators who participated in the rebellion against the federal republic and became a functioning element of a different country were not part of the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia in the federal republic.
Thus, the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia, petitioned the federal republic to separate itself and form a new state.
Unless the rebel legislature participating as a functioning element of another country was the legitimate representative of the state of Virginia in the federal republic, which the federal republic never acknowledged existed.
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<quoted text>Okay then let's talk about minimum wage. Do you believe if American companies had free will to do anything they wanted American workers would not become like the slaves they have in China at .30 cents an hour? America was grown out of the middle class worker. Those middle class jobs pay were union or based on union pay. Look at ANY chart out there showing the decline of average wages and it follows exactly along with the decline of unions. The US laws are the ONLY thing left standing between the companies and most workers in America making only $1.00 an hour.
So, why is anybody paid more than minimum wage?

Unions have driven many jobs overseas or to non-union states, not because of the wages, but because dealing with a-hole unions makes running a business impossible. Witness the auto industry as a prime example.

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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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that's less than $15,000 a year for 40 hours. Can you live on that?
It would be interesting to have the members of Congress participate in a means test for a month, go find an apartment, buy food, gas, insurance, health insurance, daycare etc. then get back to us; and let Miss Phuckface Marsha Blackburn, get back to us with her effing whiny southern twang that sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard.
What you loony left wingers don't understand is that it is a "minimum wage", not a living wage. A 16 year old doesn't need to be making a living wage.
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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wawawawawa who the fick cares
Certainly not you or Obama

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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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People making minimum wages should pay no taxes
You are incorrect. Their taxes just went up, as did mine.

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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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People making minimum wages should pay no taxes
Sorry, misread your post..in a hurry.

I disagree, everyone should have some skin in the game.

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Dweeb, the idiot Constitutionalis...t who's never read the Constitution!!

Not a single word in your post cites where in the Constitution a State can be broken up to create new states!!

ROFLMAO

You're making a fool of yourself again, as you did with your brainless talk about geothermal systems.

Try reading Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution:

""The argument that West Virginia may not be a state rests on the troublesome language of Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution:
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
The mandate within the second clause --- that “no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State”–-- appears to flatly prohibit the creation of a new state from within the territory of a preexisting state, irrespective of whether consent is given. The case of West Virginia, carved out from Virginia, would seem to fall under this prohibition.

WVA was created in defiance of the Constitution.

It is UnConstitutional on it's face, and you're still an idot!!

Time for you to run off and hide, greasemonkey!!
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Exactly. Therefore, the state government of the half of Virginia that left the union was never recognized by the federal republic. The state government of the half of Virginia that remained in the federal republic was recognized as the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia. And, that legitimate representation of the state of Virginia petitioned the federal republic to be a separate state in accordance with the requirements written in the Constitution.
Or, the state government that left the federal republic was still recognized as the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia.
The question now is, was the rebel government of the state of Virginia the legitimate representation in the federal republic, or was the loyal government of the state of Virginia that didn't rebel against the federal republic the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia?
If the loyal government that didn't rebel against the federal republic is the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia, then all requirements of the Constitution were satisfied.
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Lincoln's illegal war cost us 500,000 lives.
Lincoln was an idiot. They say he tried to negotiate, but I doubt he tried very hard. The nmoron thought the war would be a piece of cake but being a "lawyer", he was clueless about practicle matters. The slaves ended up suffering anyways and the war didn't really end until 10 years after it technically ended.

Most people don't know this but Lincoln was a gay boy and liked to sleep with men. Too bad John Wilkes Booth waited so long.
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The legislature was comprised of those representatives that didn't participate in the rebellion. Thus, there was in existence a legislature.
This legislature comprised of representatives that didn't participate in the rebellion became the legitimate representation in the federal republic. Those legislators that participated in the rebellion and became a functioning element in a different country were never acknowledged by the federal republic, thus they were not the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia.
Those legislators who remained loyal to the federal republic were the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia.
Those legislators who participated in the rebellion against the federal republic and became a functioning element of a different country were not part of the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia in the federal republic.
Thus, the legitimate representation of the state of Virginia, petitioned the federal republic to separate itself and form a new state.
Unless the rebel legislature participating as a functioning element of another country was the legitimate representative of the state of Virginia in the federal republic, which the federal republic never acknowledged existed.
If that were the case then West Virginia would in fact be Virginia which it is not.
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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that's less than $15,000 a year for 40 hours. Can you live on that?
Minimum wage jobs are not intended for heads of households, but for teenagers and second incomes.

Want more money, improve your job skills.
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Lincoln's illegal war cost us 500,000 lives.
You could make that argument.
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Why don't we just cut taxes and leave minimum wage where it is? People wouldn't need raises if they were allowed to keep more of what they earned. It's a win win...the employee gets more money, the employer saves more money.
Well for one thing we're broke. But why you yelling at me, take it up with your duly elected representative of the great state of <insert your state here>

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Well, you may be correct about that, given that Obama is a puppet for Goldman Sachs, Warren Buffet, and George Soros.
All these war criminals will be drone subjects after the revolution, wherever they flee.
Oh, and who were Reagan and Bush junior puppets of ? The records show ole Ronnie baby did all of Wall St's bidding to give them carte blance on any financial transaction at all without the fed's sticking their nose in. After all that's what you tea bagger's want isn't it ? Look what happened as a result, the whole ponzi scheme collapased like a deck of cards and sent the world bankrupt!
We are all still waiting for the day someone from your clan might post something that sound credible but I wont hold my breath waiting!

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You are so full of shit.
Go back and reference that post, you goddam liar.
Now, post that time line you talk about so much. Remember to put in all caps when that demonstration Obama lied about for two weeks happened.
Put up or shut up.
It's been posted. We've all seen it. Dave posted it several times.

You just run away from it and demand it all over again, because you know Dave's got you tarred and feathered with your own ignorance.

Your stupid act is growing old.

You lose every discussion due to your ignorance, so you fall back on repetitios dumb questions, hoping all will forget what a fool you are.

Answer this:

Where was Bush while America was under attack on 9-11-01??
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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People making minimum wages should pay no taxes
How about this pay no Taxes get Zero benefits!!
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What you loony left wingers don't understand is that it is a "minimum wage", not a living wage. A 16 year old doesn't need to be making a living wage.
I say drop minimum wage, call it a living wage and make it 9 bucks an hour. Why do rightwingers hate 16 year olds?

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The SOTU rap act is already forgotten. Obama cast aside any chance for progress and instead decided to keep campaigning for legislation that has no chance of passage.
Yet the GOP is falling all over themselves to craft an immigration bill!! Contrast that with the anti-immigrant stance that helped lose themthe election!!

The Tea Party has been rejected!!

Obama has them on the run, expect a Reagan style amnesty, as well as the nitwits caving on gay marriage.

Obama has created a Civil War within the Republiclown Party!!

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