Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
yop

France

#860625 Feb 18, 2013
We should not intervene in islamic countries.we must let them live as they wish.as long as they do not threaten us,we should let them in peace.we are the only guilt of current wars.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#860626 Feb 18, 2013
GOPIdiots wrote:
<quoted text>
Rightwhiners LOVE to skip that important fact. That nugget was part of Bush's State of the Union speech...his plan for "The Ownership Society"
Bush also called upon Fannie and Freddie to play a greater role, lower lending requirements, AND legislation was passed ( by the GOP) to cover the down payment for low income families.
Exactly. Bush's new law, the American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003, made these changes on home loans. Had it not been for these changes the housing market would have never collapsed nor the American economy.
1. No Down Payment required on a home loan.
2. No background checks.
3. Up to 150% home value loaned.
4. Up to 5 years of principal deferred payments.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860627 Feb 18, 2013
Equal Opportunity, Our National Myth

....The gap between aspiration and reality could hardly be wider. Today, the United States has less equality of opportunity than almost any other advanced industrial country. Study after study has exposed the myth that America is a land of opportunity. This is especially tragic: While Americans may differ on the desirability of equality of outcomes, there is near-universal consensus that inequality of opportunity is indefensible. The Pew Research Center has found that some 90 percent of Americans believe that the government should do everything it can to ensure equality of opportunity.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860628 Feb 18, 2013
"Today conservative displeasure has eclipsed conservative argument. Our energy is expended in angry bursts, not persuasive intensity. I have maintained my conservative principles through eleven presidential elections. But there are times when I feel as if there is a litmus test for conservatism that I can no longer pass. Some vocal conservatives write as if conservatism is an exclusive club that only a select few should be allowed to join."

http://www.redstate.com/mcrow44/2013/02/17/co...

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#860629 Feb 18, 2013
Injudgement wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly. Bush's new law, the American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003, made these changes on home loans. Had it not been for these changes the housing market would have never collapsed nor the American economy.
1. No Down Payment required on a home loan.
2. No background checks.
3. Up to 150% home value loaned.
4. Up to 5 years of principal deferred payments.
You are very ignorant of US history. Let me help you correct that. Here is a link where you can actually read the quotes from the Democrats when they were negotiating with the Republicans with outright lies to get no effective oversight of their Marxist CRA program that was an obvious failure in 2003:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1222905743912...

Now, this will require that you think for yourself and draw your own conclusion about what the above facts mean:

In 2003 the Democrats supported Bush and the war in Iraq.
In 2003 the Republicans supported the Democrats' Marxist subnprime loan program.

Do you think there was a connection there?

Considering the fact that it was the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing loan program that collapsed our economy, what lessons do you think we should have learned from the above facts of history?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#860630 Feb 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Equal Opportunity, Our National Myth
....The gap between aspiration and reality could hardly be wider. Today, the United States has less equality of opportunity than almost any other advanced industrial country. Study after study has exposed the myth that America is a land of opportunity. This is especially tragic: While Americans may differ on the desirability of equality of outcomes, there is near-universal consensus that inequality of opportunity is indefensible. The Pew Research Center has found that some 90 percent of Americans believe that the government should do everything it can to ensure equality of opportunity.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/...
Oh, jeeezzz.... what bullshit.

A person born a minority has more opportunity than a non-minority. All they have to do is take advantage of those opportunities.
Ever hear of "affirmative action", you goddam idiot?

If you want to actually discuss this, please tell us why minorities still aren't taking advantage of those opportunities that have been available to them for fifty goddam years.

Why do you think this is the fact?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860631 Feb 18, 2013
George Polk Awards: David Corn Wins For Romney '47 Percent' Scoop

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/geor...

he's also responsible for exposing Pandagate.

FOX win any?

lol
finding

Brookland, AR

#860632 Feb 18, 2013
No tax increase for middle class?????? How much money is taken out of your check every week? Another lie your liberal president told. What's next?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860633 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, jeeezzz.... what bullshit.
A person born a minority has more opportunity than a non-minority. All they have to do is take advantage of those opportunities.
Ever hear of "affirmative action", you goddam idiot?
If you want to actually discuss this, please tell us why minorities still aren't taking advantage of those opportunities that have been available to them for fifty goddam years.
Why do you think this is the fact?
funny you go right for race.

90% of us can't all be black. miss that part? seems the white folks feel they also have a gripe.

try a response that doesn't go all tea party.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860634 Feb 18, 2013
Scientology for Rednecks: What the GOP Has Become

As with many religions, political parties have a tendency to start as a movement, transform into a business, and finally degenerate into a racket designed to fleece the yokels. One organization which has gone out of its way to illustrate this evolution is the Republican Party. And it has done so with a national scope and fundraising apparatus that would have made Jimmy Swaggart or Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker mute with awe.

By "Republican Party" I mean both the formal party and its extended apparat: talk radio and the Fox News empire, pressure groups like the Family Research Council, allegedly "educational" 501(c)3 organizations like the Heritage Foundation, direct mail outfits descended from the original Richard Viguerie mother ship, polling firms like Rasmussen's, and the Tea Party itself (the latter nevertheless asserts its non-affiliation with the GOP despite its having sponsored the Florida Republican presidential candidates' debate in 2011).

True believers in this multi-faceted scam are usually careful to make a (false) distinction between the institutional GOP and the so-called conservative movement. The Republican Party and its grandees, according to this fable, are not "true conservatives." By 2008, the operatives of the racket were already saying this about George W. Bush, but that assessment required them to perform the mental gymnastics of forgetting that only a few years earlier, they were eager to nominate Dubbya to the next available vacancy in the Trinity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-s-lofgr...

.... The voting base itself, endlessly stoked by talk radio and Fox News, thrives on its martyr-like self-image as a persecuted remnant of Real Americans....
yop

France

#860635 Feb 18, 2013
Minorities have as many advantages as non minorities. Those who claim the contrary are liars frustrated who had ever try to evolve. It is an easy way to complain everytime and to find reasons while the only reason is that you are lazy. In america, the one who wants to succee can whether he is black,white,indian,chinese or whatever. We are the country the most evoluated about discrimination. Look at our president, he is the living proof that everyone can manage to succee in our society. It is just up to you to want it.
Homer 2016

Bethlehem, PA

#860636 Feb 18, 2013
Ok so now we are down to 49 states with West Virginia being declared Unconstitutional in the minds of sane people. Flack's unwillingness to self-deport himself out of the real state of Virginia should have INS breathing down his neck shortly.

Not to worry Flack I hear they are working on an 8 year path to citizenship.

What else going on today?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860637 Feb 18, 2013
Obama’s Minimum-Wage Gambit Puts Republicans on Defensive

The president’s surprise call for an increase to $9 an hour in the State of the Union has the GOP on the wrong end of popular opinion again.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02...

....again.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#860638 Feb 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
funny you go right for race.
90% of us can't all be black. miss that part? seems the white folks feel they also have a gripe.
try a response that doesn't go all tea party.
It wasn't me that went for race, dufus. That's the way the goddam laws were written.
Please tell us about "affirmative action", then tell us after 50 goddam years of preferrential treatment, minorities still aren't taking advantage of the opportunities that have been given specifically to them and no other race for 50 years.

Why do you think minorities aren't taking advantage of the opportunities established solely for them?
TSM

El Paso, TX

#860639 Feb 18, 2013
Obama playing Golf with Tiger is like the ‘Odd Couple,’ it’s like Success meeting Failure, Tiger the President!!
Tiger’s records, Most USGA National Championships, Most PGA Tour Wins, Most Masters Victories etc.!!
Obama’s record 1/5 Americans in Poverty, America in Debt to the Tune of16 trillion, 12 million Americans Unemployed, the list goes On!!

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#860640 Feb 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Obama’s Minimum-Wage Gambit Puts Republicans on Defensive
The president’s surprise call for an increase to $9 an hour in the State of the Union has the GOP on the wrong end of popular opinion again.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02...
....again.
Get rid of the minimum wage entirely.
If a person is still making minimum wage after any appreciable time working for a living, that's all they are worth... if that much.
Why should an employer pay more for the same useless employee?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860641 Feb 18, 2013
Republicans Try To Intimidate Nonpartisan Accounting Office For Debunking Their Economic Theory

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/17/1...

....again.
Homer 2016

Bethlehem, PA

#860642 Feb 18, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Obama’s Minimum-Wage Gambit Puts Republicans on Defensive
The president’s surprise call for an increase to $9 an hour in the State of the Union has the GOP on the wrong end of popular opinion again.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02...
....again.
They just cannot get a break. They are like the coyote chasing the roadrunner. Here comes another anvil.
Nj raider 1

United States

#860643 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, jeeezzz.... what bullshit.
A person born a minority has more opportunity than a non-minority. All they have to do is take advantage of those opportunities.
Ever hear of "affirmative action", you goddam idiot?
If you want to actually discuss this, please tell us why minorities still aren't taking advantage of those opportunities that have been available to them for fifty goddam years.
Why do you think this is the fact?
What opportunities are you harping on? Did you ever think the need for affirmative action points directly to the inequalities/biases black people face. If blacks have more opportunities, why then don't you state them & make them clear because affirmative action only made it so a certain% of black were offered the same opportunities as white people. Please do back up your claims with evidence. Teach me something I don't know!
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#860644 Feb 18, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Get rid of the minimum wage entirely.
If a person is still making minimum wage after any appreciable time working for a living, that's all they are worth... if that much.
Why should an employer pay more for the same useless employee?
i just love it when those on the wrong side of public opinion just want to get rid of the issue that they can't win.

we see that on FOX a lot.

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