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TheIndependentMa jority

Manchester, KY

#858011 Feb 12, 2013
OldRaider wrote:
RealDave its impossible to reason with mentally ill people that don't have the ability or even desire to reason. These people try to draw others into their fantasy world merely to have someone to bounce their crazy hypotheses off. They aren't the least bit interested in testing their arguments against logic, it doesn't matter in a fantasy world. These pedantics have knowledge but no wisdom.
DBWriter (civil war & perseveration), waxturd (multiple personalities & narcissistic judge-its), Shinningshitforbrains (paranoia driven rants) are obviously mentally ill. Maybe we need to do more to direct them to get help rather than enable them.
Streets lined with weapon brandishing terrorists is not paranoia driven ranting.
The inability to see what is right on front of the faces for all the world to see, and the DENIAL of such thereafter, is another whole arena.

Dup-ed is as dup-ed does. Don't be dup-ed, dupe.

Benghazi-foreign policy failure.
Solyndra-energy policy failure.

Failure is as failure does.

Both instances were failures. Just admit it, the REAL world is full of it.
TheIndependentMa jority

Manchester, KY

#858013 Feb 12, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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I'm afraid no one can stand in that corner until you vacate it.
Well hold your breathe then-cuz it's MY corner of STUPID is as STUPID does.

SO there.
TheIndependentMa jority

Manchester, KY

#858014 Feb 12, 2013
entrenched wrote:
go figure
anduh ...FLUSH and swish.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#858015 Feb 12, 2013
Well here's a bit of good news.

For those who find Valentines Day too risque__Orlando's Liberty Council is rolling out it's 10th annual Day of Purity on Thursday for teens who wish to commit or recommit to purity.

Sounds like fun eh?

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Jane Says

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#858017 Feb 12, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>95% of Obama followers are ignorant, the other 5% keep you that way. When you blame other people for the things that go wrong in your miserable life, remember this..... Things will continue to go wrong in your miserable life.
miracles do happen and as often the case young starry eyed liberals go out in the real world and find out that holding hands and singing kumbya doesn't really solve problems. they also may come to realize that equal opportunity can be squandered due to the need for instant gratification, which leads to persistently poor decisions and generational dependency on the governmdent. here is one former lib who like a moth to a butterfly, has evolved into being not-PC, because it makes sense.

'Work: The only answer to poverty
Programs that rely on handouts have failed time and again

Today, America spends over $600 billion a year on welfare and poverty-related programs. They do not work. They create, rather than lessen, dependency.

For just $155 billion, we could establish a proven, subsidized employment program in the private sector and Works Progress Administration-type effort that would employ 11 million dependent individuals. These jobs could pay a salary of $20,000, lifting millions of families out of poverty.

Besides the fact that this would save a lot of money, work is the best solution for poverty. I know this because it has been my life’s work.

In 1965, I enlisted in the War on Poverty. A battalion of young, optimistic soldiers began to lay siege to the forces that created what we considered victims of America’s capitalistic system. We were true believers, crusaders for the eradication of need.

At the time, the U.S. poverty rate was 15.2%, with more than 20 million people living below the poverty line.

Fast forward to last year, when the poverty rate was 15.1% and more than 40 million people (including 15 million children) were living in poverty.

From the time I started out, we had spent $19 trillion to end poverty — and had failed even to reduce it.

What went wrong?

For answers, we must look at the two pet strategies for solving the problem: income redistribution and government-run poverty programs. It seems Draconian to oppose giving a financial handout to a person in need. But history has proven handouts simply do not work.

Welfare, which started out as a tiny program to help the widows of miners, became a geyser of cash that created an underclass, mostly of single mothers dependent on the government to survive.

Work was discouraged; having children out of wedlock was no longer frightening, because it meant a check in the mail every month. Dependency and illegitimacy prevailed. Not until 1996, when the welfare laws were overhauled and a time limit was placed on cash assistance, did work become a priority. The welfare rolls dropped by more than 60%.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/work-answe...

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Jane Says

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#858018 Feb 12, 2013
'Work, the only Answer...continued...

...The conventional wisdom is that those reforms shifted the paradigm once and for all. Not so. Though welfare proved the signal failure of the redistributionist vision, it was only one of the redistribution schemes.

Disability insurance also assists those otherwise without income. In the past 30 years, the number of people on disability has skyrocketed, while medical care has significantly improved. A significant body of research shows that the increase of the disability rolls is in large part due to scamming the system and an easing of eligibility requirements.

According to Nicholas Eberstadt’s “A Nation of Takers ,” in 1960, only 0.65% of the working-age population was receiving disability; that compares with 5.6% today. Additionally, the government has become much more lenient in its definition of “disabled,” making it harder to bar undeserving applicants.

And what of the poverty programs we so bitterly fought for? There is precious little to show for the trillions spent over half a century. Even programs proven to have failed, like job/skill training programs and Head Start — where the Department of Health and Human Services’ own studies show minimal gains for recipients after a year out of the program — continue to garner wide support.

We should have known all along: Work is the optimal solution. Why? Work maximizes a person’s capacity to achieve economic self-reliance. Work socializes people and instills a sense of personal responsibility. Work connects behavior with consequences and permits people to earn the admiration and respect of their spouses and children by supporting them.

None of this is accomplished by handouts or by government-run programs.

My nearly 50 years in the fight against poverty have led me to a radical proposal that could do much to lessen poverty while also saving the nation trillions of dollars: End all welfare and poverty programs — except the Earned Income Tax Credit, which incentivizes work — and use the money saved to create jobs, by the millions, for the disadvantaged.

The first attempt would be to find private-sector work through wage subsidies to employers. If this is not possible, a job in the public sector would be temporarily created. These jobs would involve public works, such as repairing infrastructure around the U.S.

Ideally, 11 million such jobs would be created, bringing workforce levels and unemployment back to normal levels.

Along these lines, President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s programs created more than 11 million jobs in 8 years. America’s population has since doubled. Through receiving a paycheck for work, millions more Americans would be paying taxes, not taking.

Poverty solved. Unnecessary dependence eliminated. Billions saved.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/work-answe...

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Since: Nov 09

Pharr, TX

#858019 Feb 12, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Streets lined with weapon brandishing terrorists is not paranoia driven ranting.
The inability to see what is right on front of the faces for all the world to see, and the DENIAL of such thereafter, is another whole arena.
Dup-ed is as dup-ed does. Don't be dup-ed, dupe.
Benghazi-foreign policy failure.
Solyndra-energy policy failure.
Failure is as failure does.
Both instances were failures. Just admit it, the REAL world is full of it.
I rest my case.

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Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#858020 Feb 12, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Former Vice President Dick Cheney voiced support for President Obama's drone program, in an interview that aired Tuesday.
"I think it's a good program," Cheney told CBS' Charlie Rose. "I don't disagree with the basic policy that the Obama administration has pursued in that regard."
Cheney said he supported the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen and Al Qaeda cleric, in Yemen. "He was clearly a part of Al Qaeda," Cheney said.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/c...
I agree

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Jane Says

New York, NY

#858021 Feb 12, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Former Vice President Dick Cheney voiced support for President Obama's drone program, in an interview that aired Tuesday.
"I think it's a good program," Cheney told CBS' Charlie Rose. "I don't disagree with the basic policy that the Obama administration has pursued in that regard."
Cheney said he supported the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen and Al Qaeda cleric, in Yemen. "He was clearly a part of Al Qaeda," Cheney said.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/c...
good for Cheney. the difference is that the left-leaning media and politicians (like Pelosi who knew about it but in early 2009 had amnesia about supporting it) wanted him & the CIA charged for war crimes for waterboarding.

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TheIndependentMa jority

Manchester, KY

#858022 Feb 12, 2013
Realtime wrote:
Well here's a bit of good news.
For those who find Valentines Day too risque__Orlando's Liberty Council is rolling out it's 10th annual Day of Purity on Thursday for teens who wish to commit or recommit to purity.
Sounds like fun eh?
Sounds sweet-much better than filth, especially for teens.

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Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#858023 Feb 12, 2013
Realtime wrote:
Well here's a bit of good news.
For those who find Valentines Day too risque__Orlando's Liberty Council is rolling out it's 10th annual Day of Purity on Thursday for teens who wish to commit or recommit to purity.
Sounds like fun eh?
Pure bullshyt! What did you think of W's paintings? Self portrait in the shower and tub!!!!

I think the next Pope will be black!!

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TheIndependentMa jority

Manchester, KY

#858024 Feb 12, 2013
OldRaider wrote:
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I rest my case.
I rest my back.

People should take better care of stuff like THAT these days. We only get one of all that stuff.
The lifelong fweeriding libuhrulTIC types want more-let THEM earn it!

:-)

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Jane Says

New York, NY

#858025 Feb 12, 2013
OldRaider wrote:
RealDave its impossible to reason with mentally ill people that don't have the ability or even desire to reason. These people try to draw others into their fantasy world merely to have someone to bounce their crazy hypotheses off. They aren't the least bit interested in testing their arguments against logic, it doesn't matter in a fantasy world. These pedantics have knowledge but no wisdom.
DBWriter (civil war & perseveration), waxturd (multiple personalities & narcissistic judge-its), Shinningshitforbrains (paranoia driven rants) are obviously mentally ill. Maybe we need to do more to direct them to get help rather than enable them.
speaking of the mentally ill--while attacking the NRA and law abiding citizens about their right to own guns, the left doesnt' mind defending Hollywierd violence and the rights of the mentally ill to roam the streets causing harm to themselves and others:

'NY’s Les Misérables
Posted: 10:30 PM, February 9, 2013

With almost no public announcement, Gov. Cuomo has put in place a policy that will send the mentally ill out on the street with no regard for public safety.

That will be the consequence of new regulations that limit the mentally ill to 25% of the population in privately run adult homes and forbid the homes from taking in new residents. Instead, these people are to be placed into “community housing.”

The regulations come despite a warning from City Hall that the state is putting the cart before the horse by not having services or funding in place to make the policy work.

As one adult-home operator told The Post, most residents of such facilities “need reminders several times a day to take their medications and see their doctors.” Indeed, many of those affected by this decision “used to be in homeless shelters and went from hospital to hospital.”

So what’s behind this move? Certainly Albany has been under PRESSURE FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. It’s also part of the state’s attempt to comply with a ruling from our good friend, federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis, who says that institutionalizing the mentally ill in adult homes violates the Americans with Disabilities Act.

The idea is essentially to empty adult homes — where residents are under constant supervision — by moving the mentally ill into “supportive” apartments to live on their own, with only minimal oversight.

Such a move shirks two responsibilities of the state: to protect the general public and to help ensure that the mentally ill get the care they need.

These are real concerns. The public has a right to be protected from those who threaten their safety. That’s especially true of those who are a danger when they refuse to take their medication.

Ask Pat Webdale, whose daughter Kendra was shoved to her death in 1999 by a schizophrenic who’d stopped taking his meds. She calls this policy “the same as putting people on the street.”

That’s precisely what happened back in the ’70s and ’80s under a policy that emptied institutions — and led directly to the massive homeless crisis.

The state’s new policy essentially moves mentally ill people who are unprepared to take care of themselves into local communities that don’t have in place the services these folks need.

We’ve been here before. And New York has come too far to risk a return to the days when the problem of the mentally ill was dumped onto the streets, making the city at once less caring and less livable.

Read more: Andrew Cuomo pushes mentally ill into streets—EDITORIAL - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editoria...

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Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#858027 Feb 12, 2013
TrueFootPrintReduction wrote:
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How to reiduce duh 'lektrik bill in duh warmer munfs.
Especially Ignert slacker libuhrulTics, sponging off of OTHER peoples tax dolluhs- pay attention-it's sooo simple even yewz kuld do it!
Open duh windows and STFU (and spare the environment yet MORE nothing but hot air and whineDUH)
Buncha whiney azz DUHMmies.
Gagagoogoolalacacabazookamooka

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“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#858028 Feb 12, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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So put in your solar panels, get off the grid, and quit bitching.
I am seriously considering doing so in addition to the water and wind Power that I already have. Maybe we can up production.

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Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#858030 Feb 12, 2013
EXECUTE Crooked Cops wrote:
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Man’s Country, one of Chicago’s “grand old bathhouses” and located at 5015 North Clark Street in Chicago’s “Boystown,” was a frequent hangout for State Senator Obama and Rahm Emanuel
Sources in Chicago’s gay community report that Obama was attracted to Man’s Country’s older white clientele because he generally enjoys being fellated by older white men. Obama would regularly be seen at Man’s Country on Wednesdays.
Obama reportedly has never engaged in reciprocal activity. The sources also confirm the allegations made during the 2008 campaign by Larry Sinclair, a Chicago visitor who revealed that in 1999 he engaged in such oral sex activity and crack cocaine use with then-State senator Obama on two occasions, once in the back of a Chicago limousine operated by Five Star Limousine Service, and the other at a Chicago area motel, the Comfort Suites in Gurnee, Illinois.
READ ABOUT GOOFY JOE BIDEN CROOKED SON BELOW :
After revealing details of the encounter at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, Sinclair was arrested by Washington Metropolitan Police on a fugitive warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, the son of Obama’s vice presidential running mate, Senator Joe Biden. Sinclair was charged with a misdemeanor count of theft of money orders, however, the state of Delaware declined prosecution. Beau Biden later declined to run for his father’s old Senate seat because of his duties to prosecute a major pedophilia case involving Lewes, Delaware pediatrician Dr. Earl Bradley. There are reports that Biden’s office helped to cover up Bradley’s activities, including failing to authorize search warants for Bradley’s office and computer.
Chicago’s “DLC”— not the Democratic Leadership Council but the “Down Low Club”— a gay matchmaking service
Ok, we have the 2 nutjobs here, one from TN the other from KY. Did ya have that kkk demo about the parks yet?

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Realtime

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#858031 Feb 12, 2013
Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:
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Pure bullshyt! What did you think of W's paintings? Self portrait in the shower and tub!!!!
I think the next Pope will be black!!
I haven't seen the, cough, art work yet__I'll go look later.

I was thinking maybe Spanish for the next Pope.

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Lily Boca Raton Fl

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Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>speaking of the mentally ill--while attacking the NRA and law abiding citizens about their right to own guns, the left doesnt' mind defending Hollywierd violence and the rights of the mentally ill to roam the streets causing harm to themselves and others:
'NY’s Les Misérables
Posted: 10:30 PM, February 9, 2013
With almost no public announcement, Gov. Cuomo has put in place a policy that will send the mentally ill out on the street with no regard for public safety.
That will be the consequence of new regulations that limit the mentally ill to 25% of the population in privately run adult homes and forbid the homes from taking in new residents. Instead, these people are to be placed into “community housing.”
The regulations come despite a warning from City Hall that the state is putting the cart before the horse by not having services or funding in place to make the policy work.
As one adult-home operator told The Post, most residents of such facilities “need reminders several times a day to take their medications and see their doctors.” Indeed, many of those affected by this decision “used to be in homeless shelters and went from hospital to hospital.”
So what’s behind this move? Certainly Albany has been under PRESSURE FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. It’s also part of the state’s attempt to comply with a ruling from our good friend, federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis, who says that institutionalizing the mentally ill in adult homes violates the Americans with Disabilities Act.
The idea is essentially to empty adult homes — where residents are under constant supervision — by moving the mentally ill into “supportive” apartments to live on their own, with only minimal oversight.
Such a move shirks two responsibilities of the state: to protect the general public and to help ensure that the mentally ill get the care they need.
These are real concerns. The public has a right to be protected from those who threaten their safety. That’s especially true of those who are a danger when they refuse to take their medication.
Ask Pat Webdale, whose daughter Kendra was shoved to her death in 1999 by a schizophrenic who’d stopped taking his meds. She calls this policy “the same as putting people on the street.”
That’s precisely what happened back in the ’70s and ’80s under a policy that emptied institutions — and led directly to the massive homeless crisis.
The state’s new policy essentially moves mentally ill people who are unprepared to take care of themselves into local communities that don’t have in place the services these folks need.
We’ve been here before. And New York has come too far to risk a return to the days when the problem of the mentally ill was dumped onto the streets, making the city at once less caring and less livable.
Read more: Andrew Cuomo pushes mentally ill into streets—EDITORIAL - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editoria...
Uh oh, janesays is getting evicted. Look out homeless people!

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Lincoln

United States

#858033 Feb 12, 2013
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>miracles do happen

and as often the case young starry eyed liberals go out in the real world and find out that holding hands and singing kumbya doesn't really solve problems. they also may come to realize that equal opportunity can be squandered due to the need for instant gratification, which leads to persistently poor decisions and generational dependency on the governmdent. here is one former lib who like a moth to a butterfly, has evolved into being not-PC, because it makes sense.
'Work: The only answer to poverty
Programs that rely on handouts have failed time and again
Today, America spends over $600 billion a year on welfare and poverty-related programs. They do not work. They create, rather than lessen, dependency.
For just $155 billion, we could establish a proven, subsidized employment program in the private sector and Works Progress Administration-type effort that would employ 11 million dependent individuals. These jobs could pay a salary of $20,000, lifting millions of families out of poverty.
Besides the fact that this would save a lot of money, work is the best solution for poverty. I know this because it has been my life’s work.
In 1965, I enlisted in the War on Poverty. A battalion of young, optimistic soldiers began to lay siege to the forces that created what we considered victims of America’s capitalistic system. We were true believers, crusaders for the eradication of need.
At the time, the U.S. poverty rate was 15.2%, with more than 20 million people living below the poverty line.
Fast forward to last year, when the poverty rate was 15.1% and more than 40 million people (including 15 million children) were living in poverty.
From the time I started out, we had spent $19 trillion to end poverty — and had failed even to reduce it.
What went wrong?
For answers, we must look at the two pet strategies for solving the problem: income redistribution and government-run poverty programs. It seems Draconian to oppose giving a financial handout to a person in need. But history has proven handouts simply do not work.
Welfare, which started out as a tiny program to help the widows of miners, became a geyser of cash that created an underclass, mostly of single mothers dependent on the government to survive.
Work was discouraged; having children out of wedlock was no longer frightening, because it meant a check in the mail every month. Dependency and illegitimacy prevailed. Not until 1996, when the welfare laws were overhauled and a time limit was placed on cash assistance, did work become a priority. The welfare rolls dropped by more than 60%.
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Read more: http://www.ny work-answer-poverty-article-1.
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President Obama 50.5 % of the popular vote

Gov. Romney 47 %

Republican House approval rating 7%

President Obama approval rating 58%

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Lily Boca Raton Fl

Boca Raton, FL

#858034 Feb 12, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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I rest my back.
People should take better care of stuff like THAT these days. We only get one of all that stuff.
The lifelong fweeriding libuhrulTIC types want more-let THEM earn it!
:-)
Yeah, you've been restin that back all your life. Janesays peop,e like you collect disability for life

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