Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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sorry. no one sends me right wing chain-emails so i must rely on fact checking sites and The American Conservative.
funny how those real conservatives are getting fed up with you fake Tea Party fools.
....Conservatives, frankly, have become purveyors of outrage instead of preachers for a cause. Instead of showing how increasing government harms people, how free markets help people, and how conservative policies benefit all Americans, we scream “Benghazi” and “Fast & Furious.”
We’re off key and off message. We’ve become professional victims dialed up to 10 on the outrage meter. Who the hell wants to listen to conservatives whining and moaning all the time about the outrage du jour? Seriously? Mitt Romney ran a campaign on just how bad things are, but he was rejected by a majority of Americans who felt like he really did not care about them and really had no plans to improve their lives.
Bitching about Benghazi doesn’t do that either.
http://www.redstate.com/2013/01/20/the-loyal-...
Erick just moved to FOX. that should be interesting.
Dya think Ailes/Murdoch are pragmatic enough to change Fox’s stripes? Hard to imagine a David Brooks replacing a Bill O’Reilly idn’t it? Would go a long ways towards helping the GOP stop being the Stupid Party if Fox were more rational.
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as goes the Tea Party....

In Turnaround, Governor Wants to Spend in Florida

Up for re-election in 2014 and still deeply unpopular, Gov. Rick Scott announced the largest proposed budget in Florida history on Thursday —$74.2 billion, or $4 billion more than last year — and said he wanted to sharply increase education spending.

As his budget centerpiece, the governor proposed raising teacher salaries across the board by $2,500 a year and dedicating $1.2 billion more to public schools. The increase would give Florida schools the largest budget ever, the governor said. Mr. Scott said his other priority was to spur manufacturing jobs by eliminating a sales tax on equipment.

Underscoring his transformation from Tea Party booster to political realist, Mr. Scott, a Republican, also proposed budget increases for the environment and the state’s university system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/01/us/in-turna...

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"But other critics contend that this evidence doesn’t necessarily mean the IPCC models are wrong.“It’s important to keep in mind that there are natural short-term variations in global temperature that happen right alongside human-induced warming,” asserts Aaron Huertas, press secretary at the Union of Concerned Scientists.“For instance, it would have been impossible for the IPCC to predict if a volcanic eruption might temporarily cool the Earth, as the Mount Pinatubo eruption did in 1991.”
These were models. Not someone purposefully putting out wrong numbers.
It doesn't matter even if its purposeful, the Piltdown Man did nothing to undermine the Theory of Evolution.
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Dya think Ailes/Murdoch are pragmatic enough to change Fox’s stripes? Hard to imagine a David Brooks replacing a Bill O’Reilly idn’t it? Would go a long ways towards helping the GOP stop being the Stupid Party if Fox were more rational.
it's all about the money.

we've all seen the ratings drop for FOX. if not enough are watching the ads no one will want to advertise on FOX and Alies will not let that happen. and with the ratings as high as they've been there will be an expectation that they should stay that high, and when the don't....

someday we'll look back at this period in time and wonder what they heck they were thinking before reality fell on their heads.
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Of course, this is not true. FOX keeps the folks informed on issues the MSM will not tell them.
The fact that you dismiss any network presenting an opposing point of view and who might very well be right proves you've been brainwashed.
It would be easy to prove the half-truths and corrpution on the part of the mainstream in many instances and the crticism by more than just conservatives.
You would be hard-pressed to find one incident on FOX that was significant enough to counter the evidence mounting against the MSM.
now that's a nice bit of hypocrisy. dismissing opposing viewpoints and all that.

you ever get tired of doing that? seems you never get tired of getting caught doing it.
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Democrats might be happy that Sarah Palin will no longer be paid $1 million a year by Fox News, but based on what happened when Glenn Beck left the conservative network, Bill Maher isn't thrilled to see her go.

After Beck left Fox, he took his "patented brand of apocalyptic race baiting" to the Internet and started charging his audience around $10 a month. Then, in 2012, he made $80 million.

If Palin takes a cue from Beck or Rush Limbaugh, she too could make a lot more money off her fans than she did at Fox. But Maher feels that's exactly what makes these pundits "con men":

"They don't care about winning elections; they care about separating rubes from their money. They discovered that there's a fortune to be made by keeping a small portion of America under the illusion that they are always under attack, from Mexicans or ACORN or Planned Parenthood or gays or takers, global warming hoaxers; it doesn't matter. They don't want a majority; they want a mailing list, a list of the kind of gullible 'Honey Boo Boos' out there who think there's a 'War on Christmas' and the Socialist policies of our Kenyan President are so disastrous that the end of the world is coming."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/02/bill...

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You failed to prove the mainstream media is NOT remaining silent in an effort to keep the masses uninformed on all those issues...
...and NOT participating in the promotion of one ideology rather than holding ALL those in power accountable on behalf of the people over whom they hold power...
...and why this is NOT fundamentally dangerous.
Its just so much easier for the simple mind to assume there's some grand conspiracy with great forces working tirelessly behind the scenes and beneath the surface. You believe this and Fox confirms it therefore Fox is the only "news" outlet that's telling the truth. To the sane its obvious their methods are ham-fisted and that y'all are just easily manipulated. The GOP is coming to the realization that this is a huge liability they can no longer ignore, the rest of us are just laughing while shaking our heads.
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One day after American officials in Benghazi were murdered and their bodies dragged through the streets, President Obama saw no reason to alter his campaign schedule. He attended a fundraiser in Las Vegas where he told a crowd of 8,000 adoring fans about the “tough day that we’ve had today.” Then it was back to the class warfare rhetoric that was the hallmark of his re-election campaign.
In a “60 Minutes” interview with Steve Kroft, Obama referred to the four dead Americans including the first ambassador killed since the 1979 murder of Adolph Dubs in Afghanistan during the Carter administration, as “bumps in the road”.
The mainstream media ignored the callousness on the part of this president remaining true to form.
“This press corps serves at the pleasure of this White House and President, led by people like Ezra Klein and JournoList, where they plot the stories together,” said Pat Caddell, a Democrat strategist.
..."true to form", indeed.
No American bodies dragged through the streets, that is a fkn lie as is the rest of your sht post.
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With The Fox News Empire In A Ratings Slump, Where's Roger Ailes' Magic Touch?

As a TV pro, Roger Ailes is routinely praised in the press for his Midas touch. According to years of fawning coverage, Ailes has an uncanny ability to tap the programming pulse of the public. If that's true, now would be a good time for him to find his magic stroke because he just signed a contract reportedly worth more than $20 million annually, and two of his most important properties are flailing.

Fox's latest Nielsen numbers are bad. Really bad. Its worst in 12 years. And early indications are the slump may be part of a larger, systemic problem that could cause bigger headache as fast-climbing MSNBC continues to post gains.

President Obama's first term proved to be a ratings winner for Fox News as the channel gleefully projected the inner demons of the right wing and marketed itself as the final defender of freedom. Early 2013 indicators though, suggest that ratings cycle may be played out.

Question: Does Ailes the programming guru have a Plan B?

That's not the Fox chief's only problem. Ailes also runs Fox Business, whose cable ratings remain anemic, and whose entire audience of 25-54 viewers can often fit inside a hockey arena, despite the fact Fox Business is available in 60 million homes coast to coast.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/02/01/with-...

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This should be obvious but the voting public is deluded into thinking there's a recognizable difference between the two major parties.
What do you think is the "one way out"?
By the end of this term, the working class will have realized they've been duped, if they haven't already. By then, a third party will seem the only way out. I think something like the "Second Amendment Party" might turn some heads.

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The regressive, vacuous ideology of neocons
"My country — always right, never wrong": It's the least thoughtful and most primitive form of patriotism
http://theweek.com/article/index/239569/the-r...
how long before they figure out they're in control of nothing?
you got that right. but let's not tell them. the cluster-Chuck has been a real hoot. watching self important people who know Hagel will be the SOD no matter what they have to say about it is priceless.
I find it embarrassing. Neocons embarrass me as an American, right-wingers embarrass me as a human.
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Hillary Clinton in 2016: Be Afraid, Republicans

Hillary Clinton stands atop of the Democratic 2016 scrum, set to resume where Bill left off. A second Clinton candidacy would likely put the white vote in play and jeopardize the GOP’s dominance in the Old Confederacy. Recent polls put Hillary ahead of possible Republican challengers in vote-rich Texas and in Kentucky, home of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Tea Party favorite Rand Paul.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02...

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One day after American officials in Benghazi were murdered and their bodies dragged through the streets, President Obama saw no reason to alter his campaign schedule. He attended a fundraiser in Las Vegas where he told a crowd of 8,000 adoring fans about the “tough day that we’ve had today.” Then it was back to the class warfare rhetoric that was the hallmark of his re-election campaign.
In a “60 Minutes” interview with Steve Kroft, Obama referred to the four dead Americans including the first ambassador killed since the 1979 murder of Adolph Dubs in Afghanistan during the Carter administration, as “bumps in the road”.
The mainstream media ignored the callousness on the part of this president remaining true to form.
“This press corps serves at the pleasure of this White House and President, led by people like Ezra Klein and JournoList, where they plot the stories together,” said Pat Caddell, a Democrat strategist.
..."true to form", indeed.
Mornin' Carol.
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You'd have to point to one liberally biased news commentator source who regularly has both sides of any issue represented.
Otherwise, you're just brainwashed, sorry to say.
Pat Caddell?

there are many in the media who can see both sides. your acknowledgment that there are conservatives who can see both sides seems to be lacking. but why would you want to answer to a post from a real conservatives who isn't a tea party idiot?

just more hypocrisy. try again.

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"But other critics contend that this evidence doesn’t necessarily mean the IPCC models are wrong.“It’s important to keep in mind that there are natural short-term variations in global temperature that happen right alongside human-induced warming,” asserts Aaron Huertas, press secretary at the Union of Concerned Scientists.“For instance, it would have been impossible for the IPCC to predict if a volcanic eruption might temporarily cool the Earth, as the Mount Pinatubo eruption did in 1991.”
These were models. Not someone purposefully putting out wrong numbers.
The key words in this paragraph, "....impossible for the IPCC to predict..." pretty much sums it up.
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Can a Realist Be a Republican?

Nuance and consensus are hallmarks of Chuck Hagel’s school of thought—and antithetical to the Tea Party GOP.

....if Republican realists can’t go along, and if they can’t frame realism in the emotional language the Fox-fed GOP base demands, what can they do? Confronted by Tea Party senators and billionaire-backed pundits who insist that one cannot be both a realist and a Republican, perhaps the only sensible course is not to be a Republican.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articl...
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Revenge of the Reality-Based Community

My life on the Republican right—and how I saw it all go wrong.

Bruce Bartlett

....At least a few conservatives now recognize that Republicans suffer for epistemic closure. They were genuinely shocked at Romney’s loss because they ignored every poll not produced by a right-wing pollster such as Rasmussen or approved by right-wing pundits such as the perpetually wrong Dick Morris. Living in the Fox News cocoon, most Republicans had no clue that they were losing or that their ideas were both stupid and politically unpopular.

I am disinclined to think that Republicans are yet ready for a serious questioning of their philosophy or strategy. They comfort themselves with the fact that they held the House (due to gerrymandering) and think that just improving their get-out-the-vote system and throwing a few bones to the Latino community will fix their problem. There appears to be no recognition that their defects are far, far deeper and will require serious introspection and rethinking of how Republicans can win going forward. The alternative is permanent loss of the White House and probably the Senate as well, which means they can only temporarily block Democratic initiatives and never advance their own.

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Benghazi-hazy GOP conveniently forgets Reagan's Lebanon debacle

"The tragic deaths of a US ambassador and three others in Benghazi, Libya, have become this presidential election campaign's Quemoy Islands crisis, this year's USS Pueblo seizure, this year's Iran hostage crisis. And, as in all those other foreign-policy dust-ups, the event not only has been blown way out of proportion, it's not being compared in context to similar events of much greater proportion.

I won't get into describing the earlier incidents I've listed above. Just go Google them, and bear in mind that if you don't know anything about them, that's strong evidence that they weren't as important historically as they seemed in those presidential campaign years.

Regarding Benghazi, the most comparable incident affecting a presidential election was the 1983 terrorist truck bombing of a US Marine barracks in Lebanon. Read past the explosive gas cloud for the details:

in the 1983 attack, a terrorist truck bomb killed 241 American soldiers on a peace-keeping mission in that country's vicious civil war. Sixty other Americans were injured. The organization Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the bombing. The bombing was, according to Wikipedia:

... the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima of World War II, the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States military since the first day of the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam War, and the deadliest single attack on Americans overseas since World War II.

Reagan at first insisted the US peacekeeping force would not be chased out of Lebanon after the horrific toll on our troops. Yet in short order, the US military contingent indeed was withdrawn -- first, to the safety of offshore ships, and then, within four months, away from the region altogether, despite Reagan's earlier pledge.

Making this worse: Reagan's own defense secretary had warned in advance against placing the Marines in Lebanon, saying it represented a huge security threat. After the pull-out, the Reagan administration sent a couple of warships to shell insurgent positions in Lebanon, Syria and elsewhere from sea, but that action was judged as largely ineffective in punishing any terrorist threat, although it did further damage sections of Beirut and other areas inhabited by innocents.

That followup act arguably was Reagan's own instance of George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. As justification for the later invasion, the Bush administration trumped up what were later proved to be false tales of Iraq's supposed weapons of mass destruction ; the Reagan administration unwittingly anticipated Bush, waving around "evidence" of a stealth communist takeover of the Grenadian commonwealth. It's a wonder neither of them yelled "Remember the Maine!"

So there's the difference in American presidential politics over a span of 30 years: Republican presidents make up shit, starting wars that kill many innocents, in part to mask their incompetence -- for instance, in letting Marines die in terrorist attacks or allowing terrorist-seized airliners to crash into US skyscrapers. As for a Democratic president, on whose watch four State Department staffers died when terrorists apparently [the investigation continues] torched a lightly defended diplomatic mission? Why, that's practically cause for impeachment!."

So you didn't mind when the hero of Grenada got 241 Marines killed in Beirut??

But 4 dead in Benghazi drives you over the edge.

This is as stupid as your contention that Terri Schiavo wasn't brain dead.

But then, you suffer from the same disorder that she did..

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How is driving up prices and increases taxes on the working middle class helping the poor or the economy?
According to CNBC Financial News, the stock market has gone up by 30% since Obama was elected to office. People in Europe are now using their currency to buy cheap dollars. They then use these dollars to invest in the U.S. stock market and this drives up the value of U.S. stocks for everyone who owns them.
How is this helping the poor and the economy?
Because what you describe is a fairytale, not an ounce of truth to it. Don't which blog or chain email you dredged it from but it uses the snapshot approach favored by neocons to manipulate the outrage of the moronic right. Maybe you just posted an old article but the DJIA has more than doubled from its intraday low of 6500 in March of 2009. The Euro was trading at 1.3 Euro to the Dollar in January, 2009. Today its trading at 1.3 Euro to the Dollar, up off its 2010 low of 1.2 Euro to the Dollar.

"Cheap Dollars"???

Hi Carol, snowed here yesterday.
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Hillary Clinton just said the “protesters” dragged his body to the hospital.
It sure looks like a strange way to drag an obviously dead man to safety!
Link it up ashole.

Woods and a couple of his CIA cohorts went to the consulate in hopes of rescuing the ambassador, Smith and the other SD employees who were in a different building. The located and retrieved Smith's body but not the ambassador's and later learned that the ambassador was taken to a nearby hospital by Libyans and where efforts were made to resuscitate.

There are photos of the ambassador being carried to and loaded into a vehicle.

You've become a lying pos__on the one hand defending right wing media and then plastering they're outright fabrications on this thread. You are no better that DB or any of the other trolls.

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