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#852973 Feb 3, 2013
History 101 wrote:
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You need to dig through the massive pages of this monstrosity called health care reform and find this part:
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act calls for the establishment of a Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute.
The new institutes purpose is to carry out comparative clinical effectiveness research, which is defined in the law as evaluating and comparing health outcomes and clinical effectiveness, risks and benefits of two or more medical treatments or services.
The purpose of the research is purportedly for the government to determine which treatments work best so that money is not spent on less effective treatments.
It consists of a Board of Governors including 19 members representing key players in health care appointed by the Government Accountability Office as well as the directors of the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality and the National Institutes of Health.
The PCORI is to consider the effect on national expenditures associated with a health treatment, strategy, or health condition.
I kid you not.
Who convinced you that this amounted to a "death panel"? Its a change up since the original Palinesque death panel which was the provision that physicians get paid for end of life counseling. I remember proving to you that it was a lie, guess the rest of your party got on board and had to find another definition of "death panel".

Funny stuff idn't it?

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John Galt

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#852974 Feb 3, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
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This is a big fat gray area of morals and ethics. Sure, you don't perform a Knee-Joint Replacement or Lung Transplant on a feeble 90 year old. But, then again, that same 90 year old should have access to some sort of legal advocate to help make those types of decisions for them, too. A doctor whose only seeks profit from elderly patients is a predator and one who seeks to alleviate suffering is truly a professional.
In the middle of all this sits an ambulance chasing lawyer. The older a person gets, the more the circling wolves close in around a dying campfire....
Any doctor should have the freedom to make medical judgments independent of the government or patient "legal advocates." The patient is always free (at least until Obamacare) to find another physician with a different opinion.

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John Galt

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#852975 Feb 3, 2013
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You're just bat sh!t crazy DB. First of all there was no suicide note. A torn draft resignation was found in Foster's briefcase but being a draft wouldn't have had a signature anyway.
Second, the body was not dumped at the entrance to CIA headquarters, it was found at Ft. Marcy Park three miles to the south. Physical evidence gathered and photographed by the United States Park police show that Vince Foster killed himself at the spot where the body was discovered. Blood spatter, the amount of blood at the scene and discovered in the body bag when the body arrived at the morgue eliminates any possibility that the body was dumped.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/specia...
The rest of your fantasy is just that a delusional pipe dream without any factual basis.
Dupie thinks the CIA lacks the ability to stage a suicide and rig an investigation.

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#852976 Feb 3, 2013
You're 100% correct.

She's absolutely blind with rage since the election.

The nitwits are still trying to make something out of Benghazi, while they still downplay the 241 Marines got killed in Beirut or the 1,200 dead in Iraq for some stupid failed 'surge' that accomplished nothing.

She has gotten fsr more nasty in her opinions, I was hoping we'd lost her after the multiple Carol's showed up.

But she remains, peddling her ignorance and lies.

She's buddies with DB, and he's the craziest one here. He's never told the truth. Carol slips up and tells the truth on occasion.

Good news is that it's easy to push back against her lies and hatred for her fellow citizens.
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<quoted text>Link it up ashole.
Woods and a couple of his CIA cohorts went to the consulate in hopes of rescuing the ambassador, Smith and the other SD employees who were in a different building. The located and retrieved Smith's body but not the ambassador's and later learned that the ambassador was taken to a nearby hospital by Libyans and where efforts were made to resuscitate.
There are photos of the ambassador being carried to and loaded into a vehicle.
You've become a lying pos__on the one hand defending right wing media and then plastering they're outright fabrications on this thread. You are no better that DB or any of the other trolls.

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#852977 Feb 3, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Democrats might be happy that Sarah Palin will no longer be paid $1 million a year by Fox News, but based on what happened when Glenn Beck left the conservative network, Bill Maher isn't thrilled to see her go.
After Beck left Fox, he took his "patented brand of apocalyptic race baiting" to the Internet and started charging his audience around $10 a month. Then, in 2012, he made $80 million.
If Palin takes a cue from Beck or Rush Limbaugh, she too could make a lot more money off her fans than she did at Fox. But Maher feels that's exactly what makes these pundits "con men":
"They don't care about winning elections; they care about separating rubes from their money. They discovered that there's a fortune to be made by keeping a small portion of America under the illusion that they are always under attack, from Mexicans or ACORN or Planned Parenthood or gays or takers, global warming hoaxers; it doesn't matter. They don't want a majority; they want a mailing list, a list of the kind of gullible 'Honey Boo Boos' out there who think there's a 'War on Christmas' and the Socialist policies of our Kenyan President are so disastrous that the end of the world is coming."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/02/bill...
I didn't believe you so I went and checked. Sure enough,$9.95/month to subscribe to Blaze TV.

What a buncha idiots! One thing to suffer advertisers and watch the show for virtually nothing but to shell out cash for that crap? I used to feel kinda sorry for them but they deserve whatever they get.

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John Galt

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#852979 Feb 3, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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This should be obvious but the voting public is deluded into thinking there's a recognizable difference between the two major parties.
What do you think is the "one way out"?
Unfortunately there is some truth in what you say, because the Republicans are too easily manipulated by the media.

Libertarian Party might be better if they favored spending cuts instead of massive tax increases to balance the budget. Alas, their chief spokesperson says that is not the case, that spending cannot be cut.

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#852980 Feb 3, 2013
Nobraina officially joins the Vince Foster conspiracy crowd.

That's what Obama Derangement Syndrome will do to a nitwit!!

He doesn't even know that John Hinkley was a CIA assasination attempt on Reagan, but makes shit up about Vince Foster!!

They grow 'em twisted in Centralia, PA!!
John Galt wrote:
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Dupie thinks the CIA lacks the ability to stage a suicide and rig an investigation.

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John Galt

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#852981 Feb 3, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Obama allowed the right whiners to self destruct on the Rice thing. Obama had never offered her the job.
Dumbass Dave really getting desperate.

Now, even the leftwing media (like Chuck Todd) are heavily criticizing Hagel for being totally unprepared in his testimony, to the point of being unaware of Obama policy on Iran.

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#852982 Feb 3, 2013
You're an idiot!!

The advocates are there to protect the patient from the Doctors!!

Many doctors will perform any procedure just for the money.

Advocates are necessary to prevent medical facilities (not just Drs) from taking advantage of patients who may not see things clearly, from illness, dementia, fear.

Y'know, folks like you.
John Galt wrote:
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Any doctor should have the freedom to make medical judgments independent of the government or patient "legal advocates." The patient is always free (at least until Obamacare) to find another physician with a different opinion.

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John Galt

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#852983 Feb 3, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Looks to me that coal construction is at least in better shape than nuclear:
http://www.power-eng.com/coal/coal-new-projec...
Don't see any new US coal plant construction proceeding (in this article) except for one IGCC plant, a completely different animal.

Our failure to resume construction of new nuclear power plants is a national disgrace, but completely understandable given the current Administration.

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#852984 Feb 3, 2013
mdbuilder wrote:
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By the end of this term, the working class will have realized they've been duped, if they haven't already. By then, a third party will seem the only way out. I think something like the "Second Amendment Party" might turn some heads.
Single-issue parties have never succeeded on any level. I can tell you that the 2012 Libertarian Party Presidential candidate did twice as well as the 2008 candidate but still came in with under 1% of the popular vote. This in light of both parties rushing into TARP (and giving birth to the teabaggers) in '08 and the fact that in '12 the biggest contrast between the two major candidates was that one of them had darker skin than the other. I personally agree that a multi-party system is the only way out but the two major parties have a lock on the system. Both the Tea Party and OWS were had the potential to breathe life into one of the alternate parties but instead were co-opted by the two major parties.

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#852985 Feb 3, 2013
You sound surprised!!

Hagel is a lifelong Republiclown.

You only attack him as a proxy for Obama., the list goes on.

Why do Republiclowns turn on their own?? Any who step out of line, they devour!! Christie, Rubio, Powell, Hagel.

You tribe is full of cannibals.

Our tribe is voting you off the island called North America!!

the past election is proof. the 8% TP membership is more!!

Your shallowness and ignorance is well documented, Nobraina.
John Galt wrote:
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Dumbass Dave really getting desperate.
Now, even the leftwing media (like Chuck Todd) are heavily criticizing Hagel for being totally unprepared in his testimony, to the point of being unaware of Obama policy on Iran.

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#852986 Feb 3, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> No. American football will be gone in less than ten years.
Meanwhile, Ray Lewis is being allowed to play in the Super Bowl despite admitting to using a banned substance, not to mention being a murderer.

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#852987 Feb 3, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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I got to where I hated S. Florida but it was all about the humidity. The cultural diversity and even the old folks in a way were the only plusses to outweigh the lousy weather.
Trying visiting elderly parents/in-laws/relatives at a senior citizen condo development, where exterminators are a constant presence and the "cultural diversity" is non-existent. Almost everybody is from New York.

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#852988 Feb 3, 2013
History 101 wrote:
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You lost your argument before you began.
No other news source besides Fox regularly has the opposing side's point of view while pointing out the other side's point of view with respect and civility.
The one-sided liberally biased news outlets not only avoids having any opposing point of view but what they say about the opposition in their abscence would make your blood curdle.
How would you know? Your TV only gets one channel.

Did you watch MTP this morning Carol? One Democrat/liberal (Robert Gibbs) vs. three Republicans/conservatives (Ralph Reed, Ana Navaro, and David Brooks).

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#852989 Feb 3, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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There is no reduction to doctors in the ACA.
When the pay is less, fewer of the most talented students will pursue a career in medicine.

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#852990 Feb 3, 2013
Reporting actual Republiclown positions on issues is manipulating them??

That's why you lose!! You're too stupid to realize the America you want no longer exists!!

The current America is tired of Republiclown lies, hatred, demonizing various groups from women to blacks to hispanics to gays to you name it.

Your brand of hatred for your fellow citizens is a good thing --- for Democrats.

It proves you're too stupid to evolve to anything other than the hate filled racist POS you've been all your miserable life!!

And that is a good thing for progressives!!

Keep handing elections to us with your hatred!!

I'm lovin' it!!
John Galt wrote:
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Unfortunately there is some truth in what you say, because the Republicans are too easily manipulated by the media.
Libertarian Party might be better if they favored spending cuts instead of massive tax increases to balance the budget. Alas, their chief spokesperson says that is not the case, that spending cannot be cut.

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#852991 Feb 3, 2013
Nuculur option wrote:
You're an idiot!!
The advocates are there to protect the patient from the Doctors!!
Many doctors will perform any procedure just for the money.
Advocates are necessary to prevent medical facilities (not just Drs) from taking advantage of patients who may not see things clearly, from illness, dementia, fear.
Y'know, folks like you.
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It's just more silliness from those who have no clue what insurance actuaries and caseworkers have been doing for decades.

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John Galt

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#852992 Feb 3, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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If you're still lumping me in with Nuculer then you're not taking either of our posts at face value.
True. Seems like a Jekyll/Hyde act, with you being Jekyll. Just his name would seem to link him to you. But I could be wrong.

Actually, take your posts at face value, but the Nucular sockpuppet is absurd.

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#852993 Feb 3, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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I think it was the neocons sending a message that they were still in control of the party in the face of rising republican realism.
"By Gawd we're the Stupid Party and we mean to keep it that way!"
-Lindsey Graham
[paraphrased]
The testimony by Hagel was less than reassuring as to his qualifications for the job.

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