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forks_make_us_fa t

Oklahoma City, OK

#850243 Jan 30, 2013
AGW...

what is it?

and why my ruler is better than your yardstick...

2009

"Sea Ice Ends Year At Same Level As 1979"

"The data is being reported by the University of Illinois's Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions."

http://www.dailytech.com/Sea+Ice+Ends+Year+at...

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#850244 Jan 30, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
blah, blah, blah.
it was a mistake made by the Bush Admin. your excuse machine won't make that go away.
Well, point out the mistake. Here's the actual history for you. I know it's different than that fraudulent history you get in your indoctrination sesseions.
How about defining what in the actual history given to you below you disagree with, and tell us why you disagree with it.

Here's the post again for your convenience:

Learn why the US didn't have any foreign intelligence capabilities when Bush took office. Search "Clinton CIA human rights purge" to read about how Clinton gutted the CIA and created a situation where all foreign intelligence came from other countries like France and Russia.

Learn who in the CIA was responsible for verifying this intelligence and briefing both Clinton and Bush on the Iraq WMD programs. Search "Valerie Plame Iraq WMD" to see exactly who was writing the intelligence that Clinton used to bomb Iraq repeatedly and maintain the UN sanctions against Iraq so the UN's oil-for-food scam could continue.

Learn how the UN's oil-for-food scam was used by Saddam Hussein to rebuild his infrastructure for war and purchase weapons systems. Search "Saddam Hussein oil for food" to learn how Saddam Hussein stole the money from the UN's oil-for-food scam to rebuild his infrastructurre for war.

Learn how the Democrats supported the Iraq war in exchange for the Republicans giving them no effective oversight of the Democrats' subprime mortgage underwriting program that collapsed our economy after 2 years of oversight by Democrats Dodd in the Senate and Frank in the House. Go to

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1222905743912...

to read the lies from Frank and other Democrats in their negotiations with the Republicans in 2003.
Go to

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2005/11/sena-...

to learn how the Democrats gave their support by a 37 to 6 margin to a Republican amendment supporting the Bush administration’s policy on the Iraq war; and then voted 30-13 for a Republican amendment explicitly endorsing the use of military tribunals at Guantánamo Bay.

... and these frauds are running the country now. No wonder we're on the verge of civil war.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#850245 Jan 30, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>
They are Americas embarrassment, most are victims of mental and programmed hatred whether it be guns, global warming, minorities or just plain political ignorance.
This is what happens when you put untrained armed people in a security position.

Zimmerman never identified himself as a neighborhood watch person. Was not supposed to be armed. Was told not to get out of his truck.

NRA wants to put Zimmermans in our schools.

sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#850246 Jan 30, 2013
Treehugger wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahhhh...ok...meanwhile Duh A Veys checking his gas fired generator lol.
However-DB did give you some good links.......
the World Socialist web site? somehow i'm not surprised he's familiar with that site.

an WSJ article that clearly states: what they said?? and not what they did in relation to what they said? which they wouldn't want us to know because it would blow up the whole delusion that the republicans can do no wrong.
forks_make_us_fa t

Oklahoma City, OK

#850247 Jan 30, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
80 out of 50,000 members. I guess you call that a consensus?
Is Sen Feinstein a 'firearms' expert?

She's one (1) Senator that if she had her way we'd lose one of our rights...

So why should a couple dozen 'climatologists' at the UNs IPCC get to CASE CLOSED the climate debate? dave.....

What are you afraid of?
Treehugger

London, KY

#850248 Jan 30, 2013
forks_make_us_fat wrote:
AGW...
what is it?
and why my ruler is better than your yardstick...
2009
"Sea Ice Ends Year At Same Level As 1979"
"The data is being reported by the University of Illinois's Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions."
http://www.dailytech.com/Sea+Ice+Ends+Year+at...
Wooden or plaskit?
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#850249 Jan 30, 2013
conservative site....

VINCE FOSTER, IN THE PARK, WITH THE GUN

"Not only does the report contain crucial information never before made public, it also adds a powerful storyline to a massive body of physical and circumstantial evidence. Taken as a whole, this evidence leaves the conspiracy theories in ruins."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Protect...

sorry DB. maybe you should just go back to birther?
Treehugger

London, KY

#850250 Jan 30, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
which they wouldn't want us to know because it would blow up the whole delusion that the republicans can do no wrong.
That would be about as true a statement as "democrats do no wrong".

Pulease...

Christie for POTUS 2016!

A backbone and some PRINCIPALS, FOR the People, by the People, of the People in politics again, for a REAL change!
Jane Says

New York, NY

#850251 Jan 30, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
The first thing done in California whenever they have a budget crunch is to close state parks and beaches, as if to punish the taxpayers. They don't lay off the workers, but just close the facilities.
union rules and guaranteed pensions are crippling states run by unions. here in NY, because of powerful teacher unions, taxpayers get to fund this and this is NOT unique situation:

Education News .

For one year's work as a full-time music teacher in New York City more than a decade ago, Aryeh Eller has collected almost $1 million in salary from the city.

Eller, 46 years old, was removed from his post at Hillcrest High School in Queens in 1999 and confessed to numerous allegations that he sexually harassed female students, the New York Post reports.

But like dozens of other New York City "rubber room" cases, an independent arbitrator determined that Eller couldn't be fired because the city failed to inform the teacher of his rights. But the city's Department of Education, deeming Eller unfit for the classroom but also unable to fire him, placed him in a holding room and reassigned him to administrative duty.

Eller, a classical guitarist who also performs in the city, earns $85,426 annually, according to the New York Daily News. Since his suspension 13 years ago, Eller has received $943,000 plus benefits -- and will hit the $1 million mark this year. DOE spokesperson Connie Pankratz tells the Post that Eller, along with four other educators considered unfit for the classroom, are collecting up to $100,000 annually for "data entry, answering phones and paperwork."

School officials say their hands are tied. Under New York law, tenured teachers have the right to a hearing with an arbitrator before they can be fired, and can appeal an arbitrator's ruling in civil court. While the Department of Education can also appeal an arbitrator's decision to state courts, legal standards for overturning those rulings are very difficult to meet.

For years, the city used "rubber rooms" as paid reassignment centers for teachers waiting out disciplinary hearings. But in 2010, Mayor Michael Bloomberg denounced the centers as an "expensive abuse of tenure," putting an end to the practice of containing -- and paying -- teachers to sit and do nothing.

Still, a recent report reveals that the city is still paying accused teachers who have been removed from the classroom -- at a cost of $22 million this year alone.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/arye...
forks_make_us_fa t

Oklahoma City, OK

#850252 Jan 30, 2013
47%ers have to believe whatever 'their' expert tells them tooooooooo!

"Earth Day, Then and Now
The planet's future has never looked better. Here's why"

from 1970...

"Earth Day 1970 provoked a torrent of apocalyptic predictions. "We have about five more years at the outside to do something," ecologist Kenneth Watt declared to a Swarthmore College audience on April 19, 1970"

What did the Ivy League think in 1970?

"Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that "civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind."

Stanford brainiac says...100 million starving to death?????

"...Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich. Dubbed "ecology's angry lobbyist" by Life magazine, the gloomy Ehrlich was quoted everywhere. "Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make," he confidently declared in an interview with then-radical journalist Peter Collier in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. "The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years."

http://reason.com/archives/2000/05/01/earth-d...

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#850253 Jan 30, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, point out the mistake. Here's the actual history for you. I know it's different than that fraudulent history you get in your indoctrination sesseions.
How about defining what in the actual history given to you below you disagree with, and tell us why you disagree with it.
Here's the post again for your convenience:
Learn why the US didn't have any foreign intelligence capabilities when Bush took office. Search "Clinton CIA human rights purge" to read about how Clinton gutted the CIA and created a situation where all foreign intelligence came from other countries like France and Russia.
Learn who in the CIA was responsible for verifying this intelligence and briefing both Clinton and Bush on the Iraq WMD programs. Search "Valerie Plame Iraq WMD" to see exactly who was writing the intelligence that Clinton used to bomb Iraq repeatedly and maintain the UN sanctions against Iraq so the UN's oil-for-food scam could continue.
Learn how the UN's oil-for-food scam was used by Saddam Hussein to rebuild his infrastructure for war and purchase weapons systems. Search "Saddam Hussein oil for food" to learn how Saddam Hussein stole the money from the UN's oil-for-food scam to rebuild his infrastructurre for war.
Learn how the Democrats supported the Iraq war in exchange for the Republicans giving them no effective oversight of the Democrats' subprime mortgage underwriting program that collapsed our economy after 2 years of oversight by Democrats Dodd in the Senate and Frank in the House. Go to
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1222905743912...
to read the lies from Frank and other Democrats in their negotiations with the Republicans in 2003.
Go to
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2005/11/sena-...
to learn how the Democrats gave their support by a 37 to 6 margin to a Republican amendment supporting the Bush administration’s policy on the Iraq war; and then voted 30-13 for a Republican amendment explicitly endorsing the use of military tribunals at Guantánamo Bay.
... and these frauds are running the country now. No wonder we're on the verge of civil war.
Which chapter of your book is this fable.

Bush ignored intel presented to him by the committee that told of security risks at airports & the thread of Al Qaeda. He ignored it. Instead, he put his own committee together headed by his campaign manager & Cheney. They were scheduled to start meeting in Oct of 2001.

Bush used intel that the CIA could not & did not verify.

The oil for food under the table sales were OK'd by Both Bushes & Clinton.

That you "deal" is the dumbest f*cking thing I have ever read in my life.

Democrats were told Iraq had or would shortly have a nuclear weapon & based their decision on that.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#850254 Jan 30, 2013
not my source....

....pro-war unity is coming into increasing conflict with the deep-seated opposition to the war among the American people. Opinion polls, which generally underestimate the unpopularity of the war, now find that 65 percent oppose Bush’s handling of Iraq and 57 percent believe that the war was launched on false pretenses, with the administration misleading the American people about alleged Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and ties between Saddam Hussein and the September 11 terrorist attacks.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2005/11/sena-...

thanks DB.
Jane Says

New York, NY

#850255 Jan 30, 2013
forks_make_us_fat wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is not an Economist...
he's a Community Organizer, which is why his 2nd inaugural speech was all about green energy and gay rights and "social justice." the only mention of jobs was when he was talking about illegal aliens being allowed to stay here and work.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#850256 Jan 30, 2013
Uh Oh 4thQ GDP turns negative. -0.1% GDP
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#850257 Jan 30, 2013
Treehugger wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be about as true a statement as "democrats do no wrong".
Pulease...
Christie for POTUS 2016!
A backbone and some PRINCIPALS, FOR the People, by the People, of the People in politics again, for a REAL change!
i'm pretty sure the right wing media are doing a good job of feeding the base that that they need to hear about Obama.

think they'll ever admit the Bush years were a debacle?

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#850259 Jan 30, 2013
forks_make_us_fat wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is not an Economist...
No one considers Obama an economics expert while you present a tunneling engineer as a climatologist.
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#850260 Jan 30, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what happens when you put untrained armed people in a security position.
Zimmerman never identified himself as a neighborhood watch person. Was not supposed to be armed. Was told not to get out of his truck.
NRA wants to put Zimmermans in our schools.
The NRA has proven over and over that they will say and do anything to continue the gun maddness in America. All in the name of profit. Power and greed seems to always win out over common sense and reality. WHY??? Simple answer...The stupid righties...Easily programmed.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#850261 Jan 30, 2013
President Barack Obama's personal popularity has returned to a level unseen since the early stages of his first term in office, according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll released Wednesday.

Sixty percent of American adults said they have a favorable opinion of Obama, according to the survey, representing the highest mark for the President in ABC/WaPo's polling since November of 2009.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/a...

and how about the FOX ratings hitting a 12 year low?

i'm sure there's some correlation there somewhere.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#850262 Jan 30, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what happens when you put untrained armed people in a security position.
Zimmerman never identified himself as a neighborhood watch person. Was not supposed to be armed. Was told not to get out of his truck.
NRA wants to put Zimmermans in our schools.
... and Zimmerman almost made it back to his vehicle before Hoodieman attacked him, after he called his girlfriend and told her he was going to attack Zimmerman.
What you "forgot" to mention was the gun wasn't even involved until Hoodieman tried to kill Zimmerman. It was so uninvolved, Hoodieman didn't even know Zimmerman had a gun until he got blown to hell after he punched Zimmerman in the nose (no gun yet) and knocked him to the ground (no gun yet) and pinned him to the ground on his back (no gun yet) and began banging his head against a concrete sidewalk (and finally the gun appears and Hoodieman gets blown away).

I'd call that excellent conditional use of a firearm. Obviously well-schooled and adequately trained.

Note to drug-user drop-out gang-banger wannabes: Don't try bash a person's brains out by banging their head repeatedly against a concrete sidewalk while they are on their back on the ground. Americans have a constitutional right to be armed and will blow you to hell.
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#850263 Jan 30, 2013
flack wrote:
Uh Oh 4thQ GDP turns negative.-0.1% GDP
As a tingle runs up the un-Americans leg.

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