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Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#844391 Jan 22, 2013
Nuculur option wrote:
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Dweeb is running his bullshit on another thread 'what the 2012 election taught us'.
Same exact stupid questions, same exact insane accusations!!
If we ignore him, he will likely leave here and stay on his new haunt, where people haven't grown tired of his insanity....YET.
that's what happened to him on the birfer thread.
Dweeb was too crazy for the birfers, they ran him off!!
These are very simple questions, and do not require a complex answer. A simple location is required to answer the first question, and a simple source of money is required to answer the second question.
To date, nobody on Earth has been able to answer these questions:

Where was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security detatchment in Benghazi while the real-time video was being watched in the White House?

And;

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

Simple questions. Simple answers. A simple location is required to answer the first question, and a simple source of money is required to answer the second question.

Got an answer for us, dupe?

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lily boca raton fl

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#844392 Jan 22, 2013
12 Ways Obama Smacked Down the Tea Party and the Right in Inauguration Speech

Reclaiming the language of patriotism, Obama then threw it back in the faces of right-wing Republicans to advance a liberal agenda.

1. Reminding the nation who won the Civil War.

2. Reminding the nation of the history of the civil rights movement.

3. Reclaiming the founding documents for liberalism.

4. Throwing right-wing rhetoric right back at them.

The commitments we make to each other – through Medicare, and Medicaid, and Social Security – these things do not sap our initiative; they strengthen us. They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.

And Ayn Rand wept.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/12-...

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sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#844393 Jan 22, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
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Jimmy is A-typical of those conservatives that are determined to bend, twist and distort while purposely never seeing the big picture. While they are in the process of ignoring the actual facts they are being racist in implying that Blacks in America aren't smart enough to know which party is best for them and America.
the black folks know how it went down.

they'd vote Republican if Democrats were the conservatives.
carol

Orlando, FL

#844394 Jan 22, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Everybody knows that history, everybody also knows those southern bigots abandoned the Democratic Party after passage of the Civil Rights Act. Everybody also knows which Party welcomed them into the fold and that that is what shapes that Party today. See "Solid South" and the "Southern Strategy".
Today is what matters.
(In case this didn't post the first time...)

Well, that Nixon doesn't align very well with this Nixon.

In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. After the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education was handed down, Eisenhower ordered desegregation of the Washington DC public schools. In 1957 and 1959, Eisenhower proposed strong civil rights bills to enforce the long-neglected 15th Amendment and give Southern blacks the right to vote. Senate Southern Democrats filibustered the bills. When the Southerners demanded that violators of the new civil rights bill have the right to jury trials (before all-white Southern juries), Democratic senator John F. Kennedy voted with the South, while Republican vice president Richard Nixon broke a tie in the Senate to kill the Southern amendment.

The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats whose support of integration was alienating some Southern whites. By September 1970, less than ten percent of black children were attending segregated schools. By 1971, however, tensions over desegregation surfaced with protests over the busing of children to schools outside their neighborhood to achieve racial balance. Nixon opposed busing personally but enforced court orders requiring its use.

In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan in 1970 — the first significant federal affirmative action program. He also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification. Nixon also appointed more women to administration positions than Lyndon Johnson had.

What you accuse Nixon and, by mere association, all Republicans of doing in the South doesn't add up to the overall picture.

Some sources referred to the "Southern Strategy" as Republicans using "wedge issues" such as "family values and protection of gun ownership rights" to gain the Southern vote.

Wow...family values is a "wedge issue"?

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sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#844396 Jan 22, 2013
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Well, that Nixon doesn't align very well with this Nixon.
In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. After the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education was handed down, Eisenhower ordered desegregation of the Washington DC public schools. In 1957 and 1959, Eisenhower proposed strong civil rights bills to enforce the long-neglected 15th Amendment and give Southern blacks the right to vote. Senate Southern Democrats filibustered the bills. When the Southerners demanded that violators of the new civil rights bill have the right to jury trials (before all-white Southern juries), Democratic senator John F. Kennedy voted with the South, while Republican vice president Richard Nixon broke a tie in the Senate to kill the Southern amendment.
The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats whose support of integration was alienating some Southern whites. By September 1970, less than ten percent of black children were attending segregated schools. By 1971, however, tensions over desegregation surfaced with protests over the busing of children to schools outside their neighborhood to achieve racial balance. Nixon opposed busing personally but enforced court orders requiring its use.
In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan in 1970 — the first significant federal affirmative action program. He also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification. Nixon also appointed more women to administration positions than Lyndon Johnson had.
What you accuse Nixon and, by mere association, all Republicans of doing in the South doesn't add up.
Civil Rights Movement Turned on Collaboration Between LBJ and MLK

In a critical phone call on King’s birthday in 1965, Johnson advised King to hammer on examples of outrageous discrimination in his speeches, such as requirements that blacks be able to recite passages of the U.S. Constitution before being allowed to register, a feat Johnson doubted any white voters would believe they could perform. King suggested to Johnson that the South could retain its Democratic Party affiliation, recently shaken by the 1964 election in which the Deep South states went for Barry Goldwater, the Republican candidate, if a coalition of blacks and moderate whites could be united over the racial integration agenda.

“In effect they are conspiring together,” Kotz said after the tape was played.“There is so much enthusiasm. After this conversation, King is building pressure in Selma, Alabama, to create very specific situations that will create change” in the segregated South.

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2005_sp...

and we all know what MLK had to say about Goldwater.

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#844397 Jan 22, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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pointing out other people's so called mistakes is not a political strategy that will win elections.
a 30 year old agenda also won't get it done.
they move center right or they move out.
... been telling them for years, "not democrat" is not a platform.

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carol

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#844398 Jan 22, 2013
Some sources referred to the "Southern Strategy" as Republicans having used "wedge issues" to gain the Southern vote - such as "family values" and "gun ownership rights".

Really? Family values a "wedge issue"? Enforcing the second amendment a "wedge issue"?

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Realtime

Deltona, FL

#844399 Jan 22, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
More than 50 percent of Americans believe abortion should legal in all or most cases while 70 percent want the landmark Supreme Court ruling of Roe v. Wade to be upheld, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Monday night.
Fifty-four percent said abortion should be legal either always or most of the time, marking the first time since the question was included in the NBC/WSJ poll in 2003 that a majority believes it should be legal. Thirty-one percent indicated that abortion should always be legal, while 23 percent said it should be legal most of the time.
The 70 percent who said that Roe should be protected included 57 percent who feel strongly about upholding the decision. Only 24 percent said the decision should be overturned.
Monday's poll was released on the eve of the 40th anniversary of Roe. A survey released last week from Pew showed that a comparably large majority of 63 percent does not want the historic 1973 ruling reversed.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/n...
so are conservatives on the wrong side of guns yet?
at least they have that....today.
What happened to prayer in school? That was a big deal when Ralph Reed was invited under the GOP tent.

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lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#844400 Jan 22, 2013
AFF wrote:
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You do know that Lincoln invited Carl Marks to the US. But Marks could not leave England at that time so he sent a representative in his place. Lincoln studied Carl Marks philosophes.
It's Karl, btw, and have you studied him? Do you have any inkling of what you are talking about?

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carol

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#844401 Jan 22, 2013
My computer has been acting awful funky the past few days. Might not be posting much today until I get to the bottom of the problem.

Might just need a "computer enema" or something to clean out the crap.

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“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#844402 Jan 22, 2013
Nuculur option wrote:
HAHA
Caught you in another lie, Dweeb.
That's what you get for making shit up.
the EPA had nothing to do with it.
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Banning Offshore Drilling
In 1969 a Unocal oil rig off the coast of Santa Barbara, California began leaking oil. The extent of the leak, damage to wildlife, and the shoreline caused considerable outrage. The state of California banned offshore drilling shortly after the leak. In 1980, Congress banned offshore drilling in most federally controlled waters. President George H.W. Bush reluctantly banned off shore drilling in 1990 for the western states, Alaska, and the North Atlantic.
Lifting that ban has been a top priority for oil companies in the United States. In 2006, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to lift the ban on offshore drilling for 85% of the nation’s shoreline. The Senate failed to cooperate. Just before leaving office, President George W. Bush lifted the executive order banning offshore drilling and challenged Congress to complete the process with legislation. No action was taken.
It took a Democratic President to change the decade’s long policy. On March 31, President Obama lifted the ban on offshore drilling covering 85% of the nation’s shoreline. The Gulf of Mexico coastline, location of the BP catastrophe, had not been included in the original ban.
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The truth will set you free!!
Your lies will keep you in chains!!
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The state has the right5 to regulate it's own waters.
The waters beyond the state's boundaries the federal government has the right to regulate.
There are multiple laws passed by Congress that dictate how these regulations will be applied.
One such law is the EPA guidelines.
Another such law gives the Exeucitve Branch of government the authority to issue offshore leases in waters beyond the state waters boundary.
By law passed by Congress, the Chief Executive has the authority to regulate lease sales and conditions in federal waters.
The Chief Executive also has the authority to regulate lease sales and conditions on federal lands - which is why exploration of federal lands has dropped to just about zero since Obama took office.(He's saving that oil so he can give it to China, idiot.)

Now, back to the point, dufus.

The president does not have the authority to issue edicts to the population. The president has no authority outside the Executive Branch of government. Thus, no executive order can have authority outside the Executive Branch of government.
The only valid commands to the population must come in the form of a law passed by Congress and enacted in accordance with the Constitution.
Thus, any executive order from Obama giving any command to anyone or anything outside the Executive Branch of government isn't worth the paper it is written on.

If Obama had ever read the Constitution at least once in his life, he'd know that.

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lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#844403 Jan 22, 2013
6. Tearing von Mises to pieces. Right-wing leaders -- as well as Wall Street bankers, industrial polluters, processed-food producers, and any number of one-percenters -- have their resentful followers believing that there’s no such thing as a good government regulation. Much of their reasoning is found in what is known as the Austrian school of economics, notably in the work of Ludwig von Mises and Frederick Hayek. With a single sentence, Obama dismissed that entire branch of quackonomics with the back of his hand:

Together, we discovered that a free market only thrives when there are rules to ensure competition and fair play.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/12-...

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#844404 Jan 22, 2013
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>they better stay in college. Obama will have really killed the economy by 2016. loved the inaugural speech on social justice and gay rights, etc. the only mention about jobs were for illegal aliens.
how's that working for ya, Middle Class?
LOL
Forgive me, I didn't watch the speech but here's a transcript:

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_22...

Can you show me where he mentions jobs for illegal aliens please?

Thanks in advance.

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lily boca raton fl

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#844405 Jan 22, 2013
carol wrote:
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(In case this didn't post the first time...)
Well, that Nixon doesn't align very well with this Nixon.
In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. After the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education was handed down, Eisenhower ordered desegregation of the Washington DC public schools. In 1957 and 1959, Eisenhower proposed strong civil rights bills to enforce the long-neglected 15th Amendment and give Southern blacks the right to vote. Senate Southern Democrats filibustered the bills. When the Southerners demanded that violators of the new civil rights bill have the right to jury trials (before all-white Southern juries), Democratic senator John F. Kennedy voted with the South, while Republican vice president Richard Nixon broke a tie in the Senate to kill the Southern amendment.
The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats whose support of integration was alienating some Southern whites. By September 1970, less than ten percent of black children were attending segregated schools. By 1971, however, tensions over desegregation surfaced with protests over the busing of children to schools outside their neighborhood to achieve racial balance. Nixon opposed busing personally but enforced court orders requiring its use.
In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan in 1970 — the first significant federal affirmative action program. He also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification. Nixon also appointed more women to administration positions than Lyndon Johnson had.
What you accuse Nixon and, by mere association, all Republicans of doing in the South doesn't add up to the overall picture.
Some sources referred to the "Southern Strategy" as Republicans using "wedge issues" such as "family values and protection of gun ownership rights" to gain the Southern vote.
Wow...family values is a "wedge issue"?
Our journey is not complete until our wives, our mothers, and daughters can earn a living equal to their efforts.

Our journey is not complete until no citizen is forced to wait for hours to exercise the right to vote.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/12-...

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Grey Ghost

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#844406 Jan 22, 2013
carol wrote:
My computer has been acting awful funky the past few days. Might not be posting much today until I get to the bottom of the problem.
Might just need a "computer enema" or something to clean out the crap.
God is punishing you!!

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foodstamps_make_ us_rich

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#844407 Jan 22, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
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Jimmy is A-typical of those conservatives that are determined to bend, twist and distort while purposely never seeing the big picture. While they are in the process of ignoring the actual facts they are being racist in implying that Blacks in America aren't smart enough to know which party is best for them and America.
Thank goodness for fwee schit...

Black unemployment....13.2%....

Teat suckling does not require intelligence...just instinct...

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-14...

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Jane Says

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#844408 Jan 22, 2013
foodstamps_make_us_rich wrote:
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47%'ers don't care about your silly charts...
Most can't read...
Long as my foodstamps keep a comin...
no worries. if you're collecting unemployment, you can get a new job the month before your 2 years of benefits run out. of course it will be part time and you'll be buying your own sub-par health insurance.

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#844409 Jan 22, 2013
carol wrote:
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Well, that Nixon doesn't align very well with this Nixon.
In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. After the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education was handed down, Eisenhower ordered desegregation of the Washington DC public schools. In 1957 and 1959, Eisenhower proposed strong civil rights bills to enforce the long-neglected 15th Amendment and give Southern blacks the right to vote. Senate Southern Democrats filibustered the bills. When the Southerners demanded that violators of the new civil rights bill have the right to jury trials (before all-white Southern juries), Democratic senator John F. Kennedy voted with the South, while Republican vice president Richard Nixon broke a tie in the Senate to kill the Southern amendment.
The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats whose support of integration was alienating some Southern whites. By September 1970, less than ten percent of black children were attending segregated schools. By 1971, however, tensions over desegregation surfaced with protests over the busing of children to schools outside their neighborhood to achieve racial balance. Nixon opposed busing personally but enforced court orders requiring its use.
In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan in 1970 — the first significant federal affirmative action program. He also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification. Nixon also appointed more women to administration positions than Lyndon Johnson had.
What you accuse Nixon and, by mere association, all Republicans of doing in the South doesn't add up.
How can you be in such denial? Why are all the southern states red now?

Those are rhetorical questions since this has been shown to you many many times, you just refuse to accept that your party actively sought to bring southern racists rebelling against the Democratic Party into the Republican Party and that's where they've stayed until today and that's why the southern states are red.

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Jimmy

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#844410 Jan 22, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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history shows those were conservative democrats.
somehow 'conservative' always gets left out of that discussion.
If you want to play that game, seazeball, likewise for the NAZI Party being socialist and left.

Here's the guy that tried to kill Hitler:

Count von Stauffenberg was a political conservative, a zealous German nationalist and a Roman Catholic.

"the term "Third Reich",[9] and advocated an ideology combining the nationalism of the right and the socialism of the left."

"the right-wing Volkish nationalist supporters of the Nazis moved to the new German Völkisch Freedom Party, leaving the north's left-wing Nazi members, such as Joseph Goebbels retaining support for the party.[52]"

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Lincoln

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#844411 Jan 22, 2013
Jimmy wrote:
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Then maybe you should get your history straight bonehead.
Percentage wise, more Democrats voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than Republicans.
Goldwater voted against the Civil Right Act.
Northern Republicans and Democrats voted for it.
Civil Right Act and Voting Rights Act helped elect President Obama, a Chrstian moderate.

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