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sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#844381 Jan 22, 2013
More than 50 percent of Americans believe abortion should legal in all or most cases while 70 percent want the landmark Supreme Court ruling of Roe v. Wade to be upheld, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Monday night.

Fifty-four percent said abortion should be legal either always or most of the time, marking the first time since the question was included in the NBC/WSJ poll in 2003 that a majority believes it should be legal. Thirty-one percent indicated that abortion should always be legal, while 23 percent said it should be legal most of the time.

The 70 percent who said that Roe should be protected included 57 percent who feel strongly about upholding the decision. Only 24 percent said the decision should be overturned.

Monday's poll was released on the eve of the 40th anniversary of Roe. A survey released last week from Pew showed that a comparably large majority of 63 percent does not want the historic 1973 ruling reversed.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/n...

so are conservatives on the wrong side of guns yet?

at least they have that....today.

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sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#844382 Jan 22, 2013
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But instead they waste all of their time relentlessly trying to find any and everthing that will reflect bad on the Democrats. Seemingly totally unaware of their many short comings, like equal rights for women, discrimination with Blacks and other ethnic groups, and all the while boasting of their religious and moral superiority and self righteous indignations. Their total love affair with the very rich and corporate America. Which was more than proven with selecting a smug tight azzed Richie Rich as their candidate for president.
pointing out other people's so called mistakes is not a political strategy that will win elections.

a 30 year old agenda also won't get it done.

they move center right or they move out.

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Jane Says

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#844383 Jan 22, 2013
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I like how they dragged the president into their argument by pointing out he and his family have armed guards.
Obama gets almost 10,000 threats against his life a year.
Thousands more than any other president.
threats made by his wife and mother-in-law don't count

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Grey Ghost

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#844384 Jan 22, 2013
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history shows those were conservative democrats.
somehow 'conservative' always gets left out of that discussion.
Jimmy is A-typical of those conservatives that are determined to bend, twist and distort while purposely never seeing the big picture. While they are in the process of ignoring the actual facts they are being racist in implying that Blacks in America aren't smart enough to know which party is best for them and America.

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Jane Says

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#844385 Jan 22, 2013
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I love it how the rabid right searches for a negative statistics & then harps on it.
For example, in this poor job market, more kids are going to college & getting education. This would lower your precious stat. A stat that has been decreasing since 2001.
they better stay in college. Obama will have really killed the economy by 2016. loved the inaugural speech on social justice and gay rights, etc. the only mention about jobs were for illegal aliens.

how's that working for ya, Middle Class?

LOL

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Grey Ghost

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#844386 Jan 22, 2013
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>threats made by his wife and mother-in-law don't count
Spare us your family traits.

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lily boca raton fl

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#844387 Jan 22, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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history shows those were conservative democrats.
somehow 'conservative' always gets left out of that discussion.
Incredible how they all read from the same playbook. Who are they trying to convince? Just like attempting to claim MLK as one of their own! HA!

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foodstamps_make_ us_rich

Oklahoma City, OK

#844388 Jan 22, 2013
What does a thirsty and cash strapped 47%'er do.....

Buy 18 twelvers of soda and then sell the cans!!!!!

http://m.itemlive.com/articles/2012/01/24/new...
carol

Orlando, FL

#844389 Jan 22, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Everybody knows that history, everybody also knows those southern bigots abandoned the Democratic Party after passage of the Civil Rights Act. Everybody also knows which Party welcomed them into the fold and that that is what shapes that Party today. See "Solid South" and the "Southern Strategy".
Today is what matters.
Well, that Nixon doesn't align very well with this Nixon.

In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. After the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education was handed down, Eisenhower ordered desegregation of the Washington DC public schools. In 1957 and 1959, Eisenhower proposed strong civil rights bills to enforce the long-neglected 15th Amendment and give Southern blacks the right to vote. Senate Southern Democrats filibustered the bills. When the Southerners demanded that violators of the new civil rights bill have the right to jury trials (before all-white Southern juries), Democratic senator John F. Kennedy voted with the South, while Republican vice president Richard Nixon broke a tie in the Senate to kill the Southern amendment.

The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats whose support of integration was alienating some Southern whites. By September 1970, less than ten percent of black children were attending segregated schools. By 1971, however, tensions over desegregation surfaced with protests over the busing of children to schools outside their neighborhood to achieve racial balance. Nixon opposed busing personally but enforced court orders requiring its use.

In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan in 1970 — the first significant federal affirmative action program. He also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification. Nixon also appointed more women to administration positions than Lyndon Johnson had.

What you accuse Nixon and, by mere association, all Republicans of doing in the South doesn't add up.

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#844390 Jan 22, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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history shows those were conservative democrats.
somehow 'conservative' always gets left out of that discussion.
... and they think that if they ignore the fact that all those southern "conservatives" are why those states are red now that none of us will notice.

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Spring, TX

#844391 Jan 22, 2013
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Dweeb is running his bullshit on another thread 'what the 2012 election taught us'.
Same exact stupid questions, same exact insane accusations!!
If we ignore him, he will likely leave here and stay on his new haunt, where people haven't grown tired of his insanity....YET.
that's what happened to him on the birfer thread.
Dweeb was too crazy for the birfers, they ran him off!!
These are very simple questions, and do not require a complex answer. A simple location is required to answer the first question, and a simple source of money is required to answer the second question.
To date, nobody on Earth has been able to answer these questions:

Where was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security detatchment in Benghazi while the real-time video was being watched in the White House?

And;

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

Simple questions. Simple answers. A simple location is required to answer the first question, and a simple source of money is required to answer the second question.

Got an answer for us, dupe?

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lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#844392 Jan 22, 2013
12 Ways Obama Smacked Down the Tea Party and the Right in Inauguration Speech

Reclaiming the language of patriotism, Obama then threw it back in the faces of right-wing Republicans to advance a liberal agenda.

1. Reminding the nation who won the Civil War.

2. Reminding the nation of the history of the civil rights movement.

3. Reclaiming the founding documents for liberalism.

4. Throwing right-wing rhetoric right back at them.

The commitments we make to each other – through Medicare, and Medicaid, and Social Security – these things do not sap our initiative; they strengthen us. They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.

And Ayn Rand wept.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/12-...

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sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#844393 Jan 22, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
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Jimmy is A-typical of those conservatives that are determined to bend, twist and distort while purposely never seeing the big picture. While they are in the process of ignoring the actual facts they are being racist in implying that Blacks in America aren't smart enough to know which party is best for them and America.
the black folks know how it went down.

they'd vote Republican if Democrats were the conservatives.
carol

Orlando, FL

#844394 Jan 22, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Everybody knows that history, everybody also knows those southern bigots abandoned the Democratic Party after passage of the Civil Rights Act. Everybody also knows which Party welcomed them into the fold and that that is what shapes that Party today. See "Solid South" and the "Southern Strategy".
Today is what matters.
(In case this didn't post the first time...)

Well, that Nixon doesn't align very well with this Nixon.

In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. After the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education was handed down, Eisenhower ordered desegregation of the Washington DC public schools. In 1957 and 1959, Eisenhower proposed strong civil rights bills to enforce the long-neglected 15th Amendment and give Southern blacks the right to vote. Senate Southern Democrats filibustered the bills. When the Southerners demanded that violators of the new civil rights bill have the right to jury trials (before all-white Southern juries), Democratic senator John F. Kennedy voted with the South, while Republican vice president Richard Nixon broke a tie in the Senate to kill the Southern amendment.

The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats whose support of integration was alienating some Southern whites. By September 1970, less than ten percent of black children were attending segregated schools. By 1971, however, tensions over desegregation surfaced with protests over the busing of children to schools outside their neighborhood to achieve racial balance. Nixon opposed busing personally but enforced court orders requiring its use.

In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan in 1970 — the first significant federal affirmative action program. He also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification. Nixon also appointed more women to administration positions than Lyndon Johnson had.

What you accuse Nixon and, by mere association, all Republicans of doing in the South doesn't add up to the overall picture.

Some sources referred to the "Southern Strategy" as Republicans using "wedge issues" such as "family values and protection of gun ownership rights" to gain the Southern vote.

Wow...family values is a "wedge issue"?

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sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#844396 Jan 22, 2013
carol wrote:
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Well, that Nixon doesn't align very well with this Nixon.
In 1952 and 1956, a majority of blacks backed the Republican Party. After the landmark 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education was handed down, Eisenhower ordered desegregation of the Washington DC public schools. In 1957 and 1959, Eisenhower proposed strong civil rights bills to enforce the long-neglected 15th Amendment and give Southern blacks the right to vote. Senate Southern Democrats filibustered the bills. When the Southerners demanded that violators of the new civil rights bill have the right to jury trials (before all-white Southern juries), Democratic senator John F. Kennedy voted with the South, while Republican vice president Richard Nixon broke a tie in the Senate to kill the Southern amendment.
The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats whose support of integration was alienating some Southern whites. By September 1970, less than ten percent of black children were attending segregated schools. By 1971, however, tensions over desegregation surfaced with protests over the busing of children to schools outside their neighborhood to achieve racial balance. Nixon opposed busing personally but enforced court orders requiring its use.
In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan in 1970 — the first significant federal affirmative action program. He also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification. Nixon also appointed more women to administration positions than Lyndon Johnson had.
What you accuse Nixon and, by mere association, all Republicans of doing in the South doesn't add up.
Civil Rights Movement Turned on Collaboration Between LBJ and MLK

In a critical phone call on King’s birthday in 1965, Johnson advised King to hammer on examples of outrageous discrimination in his speeches, such as requirements that blacks be able to recite passages of the U.S. Constitution before being allowed to register, a feat Johnson doubted any white voters would believe they could perform. King suggested to Johnson that the South could retain its Democratic Party affiliation, recently shaken by the 1964 election in which the Deep South states went for Barry Goldwater, the Republican candidate, if a coalition of blacks and moderate whites could be united over the racial integration agenda.

“In effect they are conspiring together,” Kotz said after the tape was played.“There is so much enthusiasm. After this conversation, King is building pressure in Selma, Alabama, to create very specific situations that will create change” in the segregated South.

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2005_sp...

and we all know what MLK had to say about Goldwater.

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#844397 Jan 22, 2013
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pointing out other people's so called mistakes is not a political strategy that will win elections.
a 30 year old agenda also won't get it done.
they move center right or they move out.
... been telling them for years, "not democrat" is not a platform.

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carol

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#844398 Jan 22, 2013
Some sources referred to the "Southern Strategy" as Republicans having used "wedge issues" to gain the Southern vote - such as "family values" and "gun ownership rights".

Really? Family values a "wedge issue"? Enforcing the second amendment a "wedge issue"?

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Realtime

Deltona, FL

#844399 Jan 22, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
More than 50 percent of Americans believe abortion should legal in all or most cases while 70 percent want the landmark Supreme Court ruling of Roe v. Wade to be upheld, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Monday night.
Fifty-four percent said abortion should be legal either always or most of the time, marking the first time since the question was included in the NBC/WSJ poll in 2003 that a majority believes it should be legal. Thirty-one percent indicated that abortion should always be legal, while 23 percent said it should be legal most of the time.
The 70 percent who said that Roe should be protected included 57 percent who feel strongly about upholding the decision. Only 24 percent said the decision should be overturned.
Monday's poll was released on the eve of the 40th anniversary of Roe. A survey released last week from Pew showed that a comparably large majority of 63 percent does not want the historic 1973 ruling reversed.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/n...
so are conservatives on the wrong side of guns yet?
at least they have that....today.
What happened to prayer in school? That was a big deal when Ralph Reed was invited under the GOP tent.

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lily boca raton fl

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#844400 Jan 22, 2013
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You do know that Lincoln invited Carl Marks to the US. But Marks could not leave England at that time so he sent a representative in his place. Lincoln studied Carl Marks philosophes.
It's Karl, btw, and have you studied him? Do you have any inkling of what you are talking about?

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carol

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#844401 Jan 22, 2013
My computer has been acting awful funky the past few days. Might not be posting much today until I get to the bottom of the problem.

Might just need a "computer enema" or something to clean out the crap.

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