Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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The jackass won't be pulling the carriage but will be inside of it, lily.
Look whose the jackass; that was the posters post who asked what he said to threaten the presidents life. What a bunch of dunderheads y'all are. Kerrristt.

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The NRA’s new ad is beyond anything we’ve seen, in political propaganda terms, in the modern history of this country. The text goes as follows:
Are the president’s kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? Mr. Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he’s just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security.
Let’s start with the ad’s broken logic. A, the Obama family has Secret Service protection; B, other American families do not; C, because of this, Obama is an elitist and a hypocrite. It’s pretty ludicrous. Malia and Sasha Obama get lots of things because their father won the presidency. They also have a chauffeur; get to ride on a big fancy airplane free of charge and don’t have to endure any TSA-related indignities; live in a beautiful big house rent-free; and so on. By the ad’s logic, all of these are instances of hypocrisy.
And yet, for pretty much all of modern history until this ad was unveiled yesterday, I don’t remember anyone begrudging presidential children their right to the perquisites that come with being the president’s children. People on the right made fun of Amy Carter’s and Chelsea Clinton’s physical appearance in tasteless ways. People on the left made fun of the Bush girls’ zest for margaritas and what have you.
But this is a step, or three, beyond that. It’s designed to make people who despise the president despise him even more; and it’s designed to make them despise his children, 14 and 11 years old, because they live a cosseted life that you and your kids don’t; they are ergo elitist hypocrites just like their father.
It’s not even the logic, though, that’s most disturbing. The main thing here is what’s between the lines; the hot buttons in the pro-gun amygdala the ad is designed to push. Just mentioning the president’s daughters in an ad full of violent imagery and sounds—silhouettes of assault rifles, profiles of heavily armed soldiers, martial music—is an invitation to certain viewers to make certain mental connections. I’ll stop there. But it’s really a shocking thing.
It is true that a couple recent polls have shown majorities backing the NRA position about putting armed guards in schools, which Obama opposes. This is the point of the ad. That’s a point that could have been made in any number of ways. But the NRA decided to make it in this particular way. Imagine: A group of people tossed this idea around, kicked its tires, so to speak; someone wrote a script; someone chose the images; someone chose the music; someone in authority said yes, let’s do this, let’s drag the president’s daughters into it.
And remember—this debate is really just starting in earnest today, as the president unveils his proposals. What will the group prove itself capable of if its back is really up against the wall?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01...
next it'll be the dog whistles. or maybe it just happened.
(it's ok. i know you HAVE to call me a racist.....it's the 'rules'.)
where would you folks wander without your ideology? it's bad enough as it is......
Armed guards does not equal secret service.
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John Galt wrote:
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Looks like a little payback here.
Maybe now lily will stop being a fake Carol.
No, I forgot to put that posters name on it; the dunderhead who asked what he said to threaten the President.
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<quoted text>Still not a threat ,just someone looking forward to a joyous ocassion in their and many others opinion , still not a crime.
Yeah, sure killer
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John Galt wrote:
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The Secret Service protection is just icing on the cake. The fact is that Sidwell Friends School has a significant armed security force in addition to the Secret Service. Obama chooses to send his children to an elite school with armed security instead of to a D.C. Public School, where the Secret Service could also provide security for his children.
Elitist to the core, back to his own private school education.
see? you don't attack the issue.

because you have no good answer. you MUST resort to personal attacks.

and if you think that the majority of Americans are going to take that in the way that you nutjobs would like them too, you're sadly mistaken.

and it's cool if we research Mr. Fat Cat Lapierre and get the dirt on his family? and that whole board of directors will be fair game. i bet all of their kids go to public schools. i guess we better find out.....
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NRA....

David Keene

The current NRA president is the former chairman of the American Conservative Union. In 2003, his son was sentenced to 10 years in prison for firing at another driver during a road rage incident.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/n...

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1) The economy has improved under Obama. He took us from losing 750,000 jobs a month to positive gains in the private sector. He took us from a shrinking economy to a growing one. You have yet to show where any unfunded drastic spending increases went to anything other than addressing the problems he inherited from your hero Bush.
2 Businesses are doing fine. Record profits & record cash.
3) Obama as submitted a budget for every year as required. These budgets are a guideline for Congress to use to write & pass their budgets. Putting the President's budgets up for vote was a playing political games - the only thing your party seems to be doing.
4) Spending???? Subtract the spending on the two Bush wars, subtract the spending created by the Bush recession. Add the revenues lost by the unfunded Bush Tax cuts, Add the revenues lost in the Bush recession, subtract the costs of the unfunded part D to Medicare. I wonder, what spending is left?
5) Millions were sent top the unemployment lines by your buddy George W Bush, and you have the nerve to blame Obama.
This is what I love about right whiners like you. Too f*cking stupid to know who created this mess and instead act like a spoiled brat having a tantrum in the toy aisle in Walmart blaming some one else.
When will you people ever grow up & take responsibility for voting in people like Bush, Cheney, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, McConnell - all there when Bush doubled the debt while taking us from a balanced budget to the worst economic condition in 80 years.
My God, we had what you freakin bozos scream about - a balanced budget. WTF happened??? Who VOTED to take us off that path???
1)Unemployment under Bush was 3.9% to 6.9%. Ran between 4% to 5% during most of his 8 years. Highest he ever had was 7.4% in 12/08. Obama's went as high as 10.1% in 10/09 and remained over 9% until 2012.

2)Businesses are going bankrupt regularly and cutting back on employees, raises, etc.

3)Obama has submitted budgets but not a single Republican or Democrat has EVER voted for passing one.

4)Obama has had 4 years to make vast changes to cut spending. He has thrown billions to green companies and research. Most every company has either gone bankrupt or on the verge of doing so. All he does is spend with no plans of reducing it.

5)As indicated in #1, unemployment has become an issue under Obama.

Obama is a failure! Four more years will be devastating for all Americans.
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Larry Craig

The former Idaho senator sponsored a 2005 law protecting gun makers from liability in connection with their products being used by criminals. The NRA spent $1.8 million on lobbying Congress that year.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/n...

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Whoopeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeee! Stock market has a lot of faith in him, it's tanking. Thanks Barack! Guess they aren't too impressed.
hEY, hOW'D THAT WORK OUT?
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David Keene
The current NRA president is the former chairman of the American Conservative Union. In 2003, his son was sentenced to 10 years in prison for firing at another driver during a road rage incident.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/n...
Wow, what a find!!
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Schwarzenegger, a self-described moderate Republican, offered a few thoughts on the platform he thinks his party should maintain. "We need to be a party where people know what we are for, not just what we are against," he explained. That means remembering that "Reagan was the one who dealt with the ozone layer with the Montreal protocol" or that "Nixon almost passed universal healthcare," wrote Schwarzenegger. He also challenged the GOP to provide comprehensive immigration reform and "stay out of people's bedrooms."

When asked to name one current American politician who "best embodies what is good about politics," Schwarzenegger encouraged Redditors to research Democratic Mayor Chuck Reed of San Jose, Calif. and his work on pension reform.

"Even though Congress has an approval rating of 9%(and loses to cockroaches and colonoscopies in polling), there are still some leaders who are doing the people's work instead of the partys' work," wrote Schwarzenegger. "That's political courage to me, being willing to risk your job to choose what's good for the public instead of getting stuck in your ideology."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/arno...

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Eman you're chasing your tail on this. For months I have pointed out that in four years no one has lost a single gun right while Obama has been president, in fact, many have NEW gun rights. In light of recent abuses, Obama, like many other thinking concerned citizens, has decided that something needs to be done to address this problem. Only an ostrich, the NRA or an idiot would bury his head in the sand and hope that the killings would stop without trying something.
That's not what i'm arguing. The nra has more to do with the rights you praise than obama yet you attack them. Give credit where credit is due. Do you understand now?
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crazy-person right wing site....

New Leftist Video Game –“Bullet to the Head of the NRA”

Leftists have put together a new video game where you get to shoot your favorite NRA officials in the head. You can download it online.
Pete M. at Free Republic reported:

I saw something today that upset and deeply disturbed me. I was walking past my son’s bedroom, where he spends all his time on his computer playing those damn games of his. I stopped when I heard the sound of Wayne LaPierre’s voice as he gave his speech about the Newtown massacre. I was surprised my son, who is just 14, was getting involved in anything political, but I was glad he was exposing himself to the right people. I opened the door, intending to tell him how proud I was, when the image on the screen stopped me cold. It was not, as I suspected, a video of Wayne LaPierre’s speech, but was in fact a virtual recreation of the event, a video game. And in the game was a virtual Wayne LaPierre, standing at his podium, giving his speech… with a crosshair over his head. Before I could even utter a word to scold my child, he clicked his mouse. And the virtual Wayne LaPierre’s face disappeared in a spray of blood.

I was horrified. I must have yelled at him for hours. I demanded to know where he got this game, and he showed me the thread on a website called “facepunch”. You can see it for yourself here.

The libs think it’s funny.

Meanwhile… The liberal media is outraged that the NRA released a phone app target shooting game this week.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/new-l...

"Oh yeah this'll go far to disprove people that video games make people violent right? I mean there's no way that anyone could go "Hmm these people made a game where you murder NRA members well maybe there actually is something to people saying games make you violent" right??"
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Wow, what a find!!
Well, to be fair the car he was chasing and finally shot the back window out of was a Mercedes so there were certainly mitigating circumstances here. Besides, the other guy cut him off and gave him the finger. You have to draw the line somewhere don't you?
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That's not what i'm arguing. The nra has more to do with the rights you praise than obama yet you attack them. Give credit where credit is due. Do you understand now?
who sets the limits on those rights?

oh yeah, it's all Obama.

Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290....

there's what happens when an assault weapons ban hits the Court.
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Yes, this is due to the fact that there are so many sicko racist killers threatening their lives since even before he was elected the first time.
Take the Obama children out of Sidwell Friends and the school is still an armed fortress.

Employees and staff in all schools should have the same opportunity to defend themselves.
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That's not what i'm arguing. The nra has more to do with the rights you praise than obama yet you attack them. Give credit where credit is due. Do you understand now?
Omigawd! You're a bigger retard than I am.

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Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:
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I'm not old enough , I care about the American people, and the millions of elderly that live on it. You're an idiot
I WAS/is smart enough to retire, at 42, without needing social security...
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Look whose the jackass; that was the posters post who asked what he said to threaten the presidents life. What a bunch of dunderheads y'all are. Kerrristt.
You made the threat against our beloved leader.
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see? you don't attack the issue.
because you have no good answer. you MUST resort to personal attacks.
and if you think that the majority of Americans are going to take that in the way that you nutjobs would like them too, you're sadly mistaken.
and it's cool if we research Mr. Fat Cat Lapierre and get the dirt on his family? and that whole board of directors will be fair game. i bet all of their kids go to public schools. i guess we better find out.....
I will grant that nobody in their right mind would send their children to the public schools in Washington, D.C., but that is unrelated to security, at least from outside forces.

The problem is the objections of the left to other schools providing armed security.

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