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Truth is no SIN

Bronx, NY

#839524 Jan 15, 2013
Financial Fraud and The Bank Bailouts: The Government’s Entire Strategy Was to Cover Up the Truth
The Government Lied When It Said It Only Bailed Out Healthy Banks … 12 of the 13 Big Banks Were Going Bust
We noted in 2011 that the Geithner, Bernanke and Paulson lied about the health of the big banks in pitching bailouts to Congress and the American people:
The big banks were all insolvent during the 1980s.
And they all became insolvent again in 2008. See this and this.
The bailouts were certainly rammed down our throats under false pretenses.
But here’s the more important point. Paulson and Bernanke falsely stated that the big banks receiving Tarp money were healthy, when they were not. They were insolvent.
Tim Geithner falsely stated that the banks passed some time of an objective stress test but they did not. They were insolvent.
We explained:
[All of the big banks were] insolvent in the 1980s, but the government made aconcerted decision to cover that up.
Financial writers such as Mish and Reggie Middleton pointed out in late 2007 and early 2008 that B of A was again insolvent.
Nouriel Roubini noted in January 2009 that the entire U.S. banking system is “bankrupt” and “effectively insolvent”:
“I’ve found that credit losses could peak at a level of $3.6 trillion for U.S. institutions, half of them by banks and broker dealers,” Roubini said at a conference in Dubai today.“If that’s true, it means the U.S. banking system is effectively insolvent because it starts with a capital of $1.4 trillion.”
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“The problems of Citi, Bank of America and others suggest the system isbankrupt,” Roubini said.“In Europe, it’s the same thing.”
We noted earlier this year:
The American government’s zero interest rate policy is very much like the British Libor manipulation scandal … it’s nothing but an attempt to breathe life back into the insolvent banks, at the expense of the taxpayer. And see this.
And the “financial reform” laws passed in the wake of the crisis have, in some ways, actually weakened regulations of the financial markets, allowed the big banks to get a lot bigger, and have intentionally allowed fraudulent accounting (and see this).
Likewise, the “stress tests” in both Europe and America have been a total scam … a naked attempt to put lipstick on a pig to cover up the fact that the big banks are insolvent.
Matt Taibbi adds details to the bailout scam:
The main reason banks didn’t lend out bailout funds is actually pretty simple: Many of them needed the money just to survive. Which leads to another of the bailout’s broken promises – that taxpayer money would only be handed out to “viable” banks.
Soon after TARP passed, Paulson and other officials announced the guidelines for their unilaterally changed bailout plan. Congress had approved $700 billion to buy up toxic mortgages, but $250 billion of the money was now shifted to direct capital injections for banks.(Although Paulson claimed at the time that handing money directly to the banks was a faster way to restore market confidence than lending it to homeowners, he later confessed that he had been contemplating the direct-cash-injection plan even before the vote.) This new let’s-just-fork-over-cash portion of the bailout was called the Capital Purchase Program. Under the CPP, nine of America’s largest banks – including Citi, Wells Fargo, Goldman, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, State Street and Bank of New York Mellon – received $125 billion, or half of the funds being doled out. Since those nine firms accounted for 75 percent of all assets held in America’s banks –$11 trillion – it made sense they would get the lion’s share of the money. But in announcing the CPP, Paulson and Co. promised that they would only be stuffing cash into “healthy and viable” banks. This, at the core, was the entire justification for the bailout: That the huge infusion of taxpayer cash would not be used to rescue individual banks,

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#839525 Jan 15, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton signed a piece of legislation that was passed by an overwhelming majority in Congress specifically stating it was the policy of the United States to remove Saddam Hussein and his regime from power.
http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legisl...
That was even before 9/11.
There are ways to get a regime change besides invading.
carol

Orlando, FL

#839526 Jan 15, 2013
Nuculur option wrote:
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I know you're an idiot, but even you shouold be able to see a difference between Clinton's no fly zone and tough talk towards Iraq and a military invasion under false pretenses.
They went in for WMD's. The WMD's were non-existant.
You can make up all the stories about the alleged movement of WMD's but you can't provide any proof.
Nor could Bush, which is why he admitted there were no WMD's/ DUH
WMD's being his justification for war, that means it was a war of mistake.
And he lost it, signing a peace treaty favoring Iraq, cmmitting to a 'date certain' to withdraw US forces.
You lose, nitwit.
I know you're completely clueless but Saddam had more then enough time to remove those weapons.

One of Saddam's top generals and one of his scientists said he did just that.

As President Clinton himself said, he will use those arsenal again once the international community loses its will to stop him.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#839527 Jan 15, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton signed a piece of legislation that was passed by an overwhelming majority in Congress specifically stating it was the policy of the United States to remove Saddam Hussein and his regime from power.
http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legisl...
That was even before 9/11.
So when Mitch McConnell said he wanted to make Obama a one term President, Carol thought that Mitch was going to invade the White House & kill him??????

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#839528 Jan 15, 2013
TSM wrote:
<quoted text>
RealDave was Kerry lying in 2003?
Mar 2003 - For:“I think Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction are a threat, and that's why I voted to hold him accountable and to make certain that we disarm him. I think we need to …”(“All Things Considered”, 3/19/03)
Actually John Kerry was dumb enough to believe the Bush Administration when they f*cking lied out their ass about Sadam having wmd's.
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#839529 Jan 15, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton signed a piece of legislation that was passed by an overwhelming majority in Congress specifically stating it was the policy of the United States to remove Saddam Hussein and his regime from power.
http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legisl...
That was even before 9/11.
But he didn't carol, he didn't. All the world was aware that Saddam was a ruthless leader. But only Bush and Cheney were willing to sacrifice millions of innocent lives and trillions to accomplish that, they saw their chance and created their own version on why we had to act now. Most believe that it was far more about oil and revenge than born out of necessity, and history also shows that. You sound far more like someone desperatly trying to convince and make excuses as opposed to facing reality.
Jimmy

Newington, CT

#839530 Jan 15, 2013
Greetings to the Democrat supporting Yahoos and the others/good people here.

Are the Demcorat hypocrites acting like juvenile delinquents today as usual?

Are they doing the usual blame Bush for stuff the Democrats supported or caused?

Yes? Figured. Liberals and honesty don't mix.
brown eyes

Salem, VA

#839531 Jan 15, 2013
Minister of State Security thanks for Chinese Room give best regards to John Searle. Minds, Brains and Programs. GF008 Safer World I apologize for my past.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839532 Jan 15, 2013
carol wrote:
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You have a misconception that Christians are wimps. Early Christians were willing to be fed to the lions and present-day Christians are oppressed and killed every day.
If Jesus himself were posed the question: If pouring water up someone's nose could potentially save millions of innocent lives, would that be a forgiveable act?
I can't be sure, but he'd probably say, "Of course. Innocent lives come first."
ONLY THREE REALLY BAD GUY WERE WATERBOARDED...THREE!
Crime in Italy. Grow a spine, will you?
Problem for you is that they got no useful intelligence from those who were waterboarded.

Per the CIA, who was doing the waterboarding.

""As for getting "phenomenal results" from waterboarding alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the CIA Inspector General's report on the subject was inconclusive—with the author noting that "you could not in good conscience reach a definitive conclusion about whether any specific technique was especially effective, or [whether] the enhanced techniques in the aggregate really worked." Of course, what we know now is that when it came to tracking down Osama bin Laden's whereabouts, KSM lied despite being subjected to waterboarding, as did other detainees who were tortured. Cheney seems to think those are "phenomenal results."

Bush apologists have been trying for months to credit brutal interrogation techniques for the discovery Osama bin Laden's hideout, all evidence to the contrary. Torture in fact, harmed the America's intelligence collection efforts post-9/11, at least according to former FBI interrogator Ali Soufan. In his new memoir, he writes that the Bush administration's fixation on torture, FBI agents ceased participating in interrogations, "meaning that some of the government’s most knowledgeable experts were unable to speak with the most important terrorists." That claim is difficult to evaluate, but Cheney's claims about waterboarding are false on their face.""

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You really should let go of this. You bring it up every few months, get beat about the head over your ignorance, drop it for awhile, then bring up the same stupidity all over again.

Get a life. You're here all the time. You and Nobraina are the most frequent posters on this thread and all you do is spread lies.

Losing an election isn't even enough to make you realize how out of touch you are.

That's how brainlessly partisan you are.

The mantra amongst you wingnuts is:

'Don''t talk about Bush, he's not President anymore'.

But let's talk about Clinton, Carter and any Democrat President, no matter how far back in history it is.

You're funny like that. Not ha-ha funny, but very sick funny.
carol

Orlando, FL

#839533 Jan 15, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
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I realize i'm beating an over aged dead horse here, but your leaders hyped and lied us into a war that they wanted and it will forever be their war. Bush-Cheney knew exactly what they were doing and also their real intentions, they also knew that Iraq was of no threat to us. Most that voted for the action in Iraq were persuaded either by pressure or the mood of the nation so shortly after 911, and Bush preyed on that. Your war, you own it PERIOD.
Well, that's a coincidence! I have a recipe for "Dead Horse" my daughter sent back from the Yucatan where she's studying the lost tribes of Israel. I'll post it below.

400 lbs of Dead Horse.
50 gallons of retried beans.
12 big branches of Coca
Salt to taste
Coriander (about a pound)
Bar of Lie Soap
4 bushels of rotten tomatoes
10 lbs of sour grapes
A handful of Fox testicles
About 12 pounds of hot chilli peppers
Gunpowder about 50 tons of it.
Big sack of bullshit
150 lbs of White Tea (old bags are fine.)

Cook the dead horse and sour grapes in a big iron pot over low heat for 12 years. Then stir in the Coriander, the Lie Soap, and the Coca leaves. You can add some of the bullshit as you go along, but I like to put most of it in at the end. When the mixture has reduced down to about half the original volume, throw in the sour grapes and sprinkle the Fox testicles over the top, all the time stirring the pot whenever you see the shit sinking. Add the tea and chili peppers, and turn the heat up on high... no, higher... that's it. Now throw in the gunpowder. Serve very hot with lots of alcohol and some religious music. Enjoy!
Lincoln

United States

#839534 Jan 15, 2013
Eman wrote:
<quoted text>
" "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002"
But...but...saddam had no ties to al qaeda
2013, the war is over,
Saadam was hanged,
President Bush was kept away from the 2012 Republican convention.
Bet George W Bush will be at the next GOP convention.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#839535 Jan 15, 2013
carol wrote:
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If we keep increasing the debt and spending without any major cuts or a Plan B, Obama will own the blame.
It's already happening - if the tone of that press conference yesterday was any indication.
They will turn on him in a heartbeat if they smell blood in the water. They love building people up to turn around and tear them down. Yesterday was, most likely, only the beginning. Problem is President Obama is not the man to understand what is happening till too late. His narcissism and self importance will not let him compromise. It will be his downfall.
carol

Orlando, FL

#839536 Jan 15, 2013
Oh, nuts! I forgot the beans! Well, any old fart could figure that out.
carol

Orlando, FL

#839539 Jan 15, 2013
The rotten tomatoes aren't for cooking, incidentally, they're to throw at people you don't like while you're cooking.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839540 Jan 15, 2013
carol wrote:
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Oh great, the other one now. It's charming how the slugs come out of the woodwork once the good people start conversing intelligently. I suppose I'lll just have to tolerate this until Topix-mods decide to do something about it - which appears to be never.
You're not a Topix registered user.

You've been a visitor for 4 years.

You have no more right to the name carol than the man in the moon.

All this nonsense about the 'real carol' is just that. Nonsense.

There is no 'real carol'. Just a visitor who uses the name. I expect there are millions of carol's out there.

And you claim to be the 'real carol'??

How stupid of you.

Register, you wimpy dingbat!! It will eliminate your Drama Queen crap.

“It's always darkest 'fore dawn”

Since: Jul 08

When's dawn?

#839541 Jan 15, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
He Nuculur Option:
Fact: More soldiers had died in Iraq ans Afghanistan under Obama's leadership that under Bush's!!!
Let's see? Bush was in the military while Obama pretended to be from Kenya for free scholarship... Uhm?
Fact? What a moran you are--I mean it's simple math, not a conspiracy theory. "Fact Check: More soldiers have died under Obama than under Bush. Made popular 111 days ago in Politics
The actual facts are that more than twice as many troops have died under Bush. A previous post claiming that more troops have died under Obama was factually incorrect. The information you were using referred to the number of troops that have died in Afghanistan only. Please quit using partial facts out of context in order to get a point across."

There are a million sources to prove my claim. More than 4,000 died under Bush. Less than 2,000 under Obama. Granted that's too many either way. Oh, and how goes the civilian count for the two in Iraq and Afghanistan? How many American civilians died on 9/11 while he was taking yet another vacation cutting brush?
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#839542 Jan 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> They will turn on him in a heartbeat if they smell blood in the water. They love building people up to turn around and tear them down. Yesterday was, most likely, only the beginning. Problem is President Obama is not the man to understand what is happening till too late. His narcissism and self importance will not let him compromise. It will be his downfall.
So in that drunken state that you reside in you don't think that the president of the strongest nation on earth should feel just a little bit important? They, meaning Who? No president has tried harder to appease the opposition than has Obama, and all he got for his efforts was....NO,NO and NO from the worst congress ever assembled, thanks in large part to the now defunct Tea Party. Thank goodness they were only a fart in a hurricane..

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839543 Jan 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> They will turn on him in a heartbeat if they smell blood in the water. They love building people up to turn around and tear them down. Yesterday was, most likely, only the beginning. Problem is President Obama is not the man to understand what is happening till too late. His narcissism and self importance will not let him compromise. It will be his downfall.
I'll be darned!! It's our truck driving psychologist, here to explain human behavior!!

Figure out whether you invest in companies or mutual funds yet?? HAHAHAHAHA

But right now, Obama's on a roll.

He's beaten your side on every issue;

Obamacare, women, gays, immigrants, taxes.

Your heroes folded their tents and agreed to tax increases on the wealthy, something you swore would never happen.

I do believe he might get a third term!!
R2D2 speaks

Orlando, FL

#839545 Jan 15, 2013
(mechanical voice) "Car-ol is a ding-bat. Car-ol is a ding-bat. Car-ol is a..."

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#839546 Jan 15, 2013
Jan Brewer agrees to Obamacare Medicaid expansion in AZ.

hahahaha

(The nitwits are falling into place. Wait until Texans turn on Perry!)

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