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Since: Dec 12

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#838438 Jan 13, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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The term "fascism" is a twentieth century term. However, the concept of fascism is as old as dictatorship. Fascism occurs when a dictator uses the concept of nationalism to command allegiance to himself, as opposed to using the concept of authority to command that allegiance.
When such people as Napoleon commanded that everyone who loved France must love him was instituting a fascist principle.
I'd like to read that executive order.
If the law stated money will be spent on stem cell research, then the president cannot issue an executive order that violates existing law.
If a law does not state specifically that money will be used for stem cell research, but within the agency that disburses the funds they fund stem cell research, then it is within the Constitutional authority of an executive order to restrict the general distribution of money.
That would have been very easy to rectify. An executive order cannot violate any law. So, all Congress needed to do was write a specific law funding stem cell research, and no executive order would have the authority to stop it.
That's the way it works in the government of the United States.
So, please reference the law that specifically funded stem cell research, and reference the executive order that violated that law.
Text from each would be helpful.
Look it up yourself ya lazy, stupid fck. While you're at it look up "fascism", then we can talk. You don't even know what it is, you're just certain the Democrats are intent on implementing it.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Conroe, TX

#838439 Jan 13, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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You're like the four year old at the checkout stand, you keep asking the already answered question hoping that with persistence you'll get an answer that you like.
Nothing can be done about you, I can only hope people like you don't reproduce.
You never answered these questions. Nobody on Earth has ever answered these questions.
To answer the first question, a location is required.
To answer the seconed question, a source of money is required.

Perhaps you can write a short post for us with the location and source of money that answers these questions. I'll help you. Here are the questions again:

Where was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down security detatchment in Benghazi while the real-time video was being watched in the White House?

And;

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

Location?... perhaps just one word in your post.
Source or money?... perhaps just a short sentence.

Please take just a short amount of time and write a location and source of money in your post.
Thank you.

Since: Dec 12

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#838440 Jan 13, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
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I agree, but as long as people continue to piss on a stump idiots like DB will be the by-product of that action.
Welcome back.
PDUPONT

Chicopee, MA

#838441 Jan 13, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
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You can not blame Bush for the housing crisis that is why you need to lie!!!
Sonicfilter actually provided documented facts imbecile. Come up with something that proves him wrong or STFU.
While you're at it learn to write a coherent sentence.
BLOOMING IDIOTS

Nashville, NC

#838442 Jan 13, 2013
DEA Boss: Mexican Drug Cartels Are So Deeply Embedded in Chicago, We Have to Operate Like We’re ‘On the Border’
Sep. 27, 2012
Special Agent in Charge for Chicago DEA Jack Riley (Photo credit: Chicago Sun-Times)
The city may be nearly 2,000 miles from Mexico, but the country’s drug cartels are so deeply embedded in Chicago that local and federal law enforcement are forced to operate as if they are “on the border,” according to Jack Riley, special agent in charge for the Chicago Field Division of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).
Because of Chicago’s location in the heart of the United States, its large Mexican population and its abundance of street gang activity, drug cartels have designated the city as one of its main hubs of operation in America, Riley told TheBlaze in an exclusive interview. Inevitably, the increasing presence of cartels has also contributed to the Windy City’s skyrocketing violent crime rates, the DEA boss revealed.
“My opinion is, right now, a number of the Mexican cartels are probably the most organized, well-funded, vicious criminal organizations that we’ve ever seen,” said Riley.
Right now, at least three major Mexican cartels are fighting for control of billions of dollars worth of marijuana, cocaine and heroin in Chicago. That includes the ruthless Zetas and the powerful Sinaloa cartel, run by Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, arguably the most wanted man in North America, and perhaps the entire world.
However, the influence of drug cartels is seemingly overlooked repeatedly by the media when it reports on Chicago’s crime rate and rampant drug-related violence.
The city of Chicago, which Riley says has the “strongest police department” in the country, has been dealing with organized crime groups since the early 1930s, most notably the Italian mafia. But as ruthless as Al Capone and the mobs once were, Mexican drug trafficking organizations like the Sinaloa Cartel put them to shame, Riley said.

WERE IN THE HELL IS JOE AND OBAMA?THATS RIGHT HE WAS SUPPORTING THE DRUG CARTELS?

A Jan. 8, 2010 briefing paper from the ATF Phoenix Field Division Group VII says:“This investigation has currently identified more than 20 individual connected straw purchasers…. To date (September 2009-present) this group has purchased in excess of 650 firearms (mainly AK-47 variants) for which they have paid cash totaling more than $350,000.”
This is an important fact because the U.S. Justice Department hasn’t made it clear to tell congressional investigators when the Fast and Furious operation began and who authorized it; as a result, this ATF briefing paper’s mention of September 2009 is thus far the earliest we can trace the operation.
The next important event we know of occurred in October 2009 when the ATF’s Phoenix Field Division established a gun-trafficking group called “Group VII.” Group VII began using the strategy of allowing suspects to walk away with illegally purchased guns, according to a report from the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the staff of Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee. The report says,“The purpose was to wait and watch, in hope that law enforcement could identify other members of a trafficking network and build a large, complex conspiracy case…. Group VII initially began using the new gunwalking tactics in one of its investigations to further the Department’s strategy. The case was soon renamed ‘Operation Fast and Furious.’”
This report and later official explanations from the ATF say the Fast and Furious program was created to deal with the problem that arresting low-level suspects doesn’t necessarily help ATF agents get to the heads of Mexican cartels.
On Oct. 26, 2009, a month or so after Fast and Furious seems to have been initiated, a document shows that a teleconference was held between 13 officials.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#838443 Jan 13, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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search "CRA redlining" and read.
Now, when the propaganda says "race", change that to match reality and insert in its place "places where the history is poor investment and the bank loses money".
The link to race was, it was a coincidence the zones where banks lost money also were predominantly black. Banks don't care what you're race is. They only care that you pay your goddam note and the interest that allows them to not collapse.
Banks were faced with the threat of law suits if they did not make loans to these zones that historically caused them to lose money. The New York Times published an article in 1999 describing Cill Clinton applying the power of the White House to that threat. And, that article also predicted what we saw later in 2008.
And, lo and behold, Bill Clinton applying the weight of the White House to force banks to make loans in areas that historically caused the banks to lose money almost collapsed the entire banking system of the United States.
You are lying once again.

Banks lost their case. They were found denying loans to certain people based solely on race. Blacks with identical finances as others who received mortgages were denied based on race.

I guess to you, racism is an OK thing. You & Rand Paul.

The CRA said banks had to invest a portion of their profits into a program where home buyers in their community that could not quite afford loans at the current rates were offered a reduced rate.

The borrowers still had to prove they could meet these lower rates.

That is the CRA. Not a pack of lies you right whiners continue to push.

The housing market started to collapse in 2006.

How it went from a mortgage problem to a near total system collapse is best explained by Graham, Bailey, and Leach and other Republican fueled deregulation.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Conroe, TX

#838444 Jan 13, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Look it up yourself ya lazy, stupid fck. While you're at it look up "fascism", then we can talk. You don't even know what it is, you're just certain the Democrats are intent on implementing it.
It appears you are running away from the discussion you started. Perhaps your indoctrination only included opening arguments. When the real-world facts came into the discussion, you seem to be out of material.

Let's review. Here's where the discussion left off.

The term "fascism" is a twentieth century term. However, the concept of fascism is as old as dictatorship. Fascism occurs when a dictator uses the concept of nationalism to command allegiance to himself, as opposed to using the concept of authority to command that allegiance.
When such people as Napoleon commanded that everyone who loved France must love him was instituting a fascist principle.
I'd like to read that executive order.
If the law stated money will be spent on stem cell research, then the president cannot issue an executive order that violates existing law.
If a law does not state specifically that money will be used for stem cell research, but within the agency that disburses the funds they fund stem cell research, then it is within the Constitutional authority of an executive order to restrict the general distribution of money.
That would have been very easy to rectify. An executive order cannot violate any law. So, all Congress needed to do was write a specific law funding stem cell research, and no executive order would have the authority to stop it.
That's the way it works in the government of the United States.
So, please reference the law that specifically funded stem cell research, and reference the executive order that violated that law.
Text from each would be helpful.

Since: Dec 12

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#838445 Jan 13, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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You never answered these questions. Nobody on Earth has ever answered these questions.
To answer the first question, a location is required.
To answer the seconed question, a source of money is required.
Perhaps you can write a short post for us with the location and source of money that answers these questions. I'll help you. Here are the questions again:
Where was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down security detatchment in Benghazi while the real-time video was being watched in the White House?
And;
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
Location?... perhaps just one word in your post.
Source or money?... perhaps just a short sentence.
Please take just a short amount of time and write a location and source of money in your post.
Thank you.
Don't know, don't care; it wasn't my day to watch him.

The Treasury.

See? Not so hard.

Since: Dec 12

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#838446 Jan 13, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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It appears you are running away from the discussion you started. Perhaps your indoctrination only included opening arguments. When the real-world facts came into the discussion, you seem to be out of material.
Let's review. Here's where the discussion left off.
The term "fascism" is a twentieth century term. However, the concept of fascism is as old as dictatorship. Fascism occurs when a dictator uses the concept of nationalism to command allegiance to himself, as opposed to using the concept of authority to command that allegiance.
When such people as Napoleon commanded that everyone who loved France must love him was instituting a fascist principle.
I'd like to read that executive order.
If the law stated money will be spent on stem cell research, then the president cannot issue an executive order that violates existing law.
If a law does not state specifically that money will be used for stem cell research, but within the agency that disburses the funds they fund stem cell research, then it is within the Constitutional authority of an executive order to restrict the general distribution of money.
That would have been very easy to rectify. An executive order cannot violate any law. So, all Congress needed to do was write a specific law funding stem cell research, and no executive order would have the authority to stop it.
That's the way it works in the government of the United States.
So, please reference the law that specifically funded stem cell research, and reference the executive order that violated that law.
Text from each would be helpful.
You started it, I just pointed out that you didn't know what "fascism" was.

Again, find it yourself. It'll do you some good to go learn something on your own. Maybe it'll become a habit.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#838447 Jan 13, 2013
The seizure of more than 700 guns and the indictments of 34 people announced on Tuesday are further confirmation that Arizona has become an iron highway for weapons into Mexico, according to federal authorities.

Many legal purchases by straw buyers at Arizona gun stores are being financed and orchestrated by Mexico's Sinaloa cartel, federal officials said.

The cases announced Tuesday involved the purchases of many AK-47s,.50-caliber rifles and other semiautomatic weapons in single-day transactions at gun stores by straw buyers paid by the cartel, U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke said.

"This is a huge problem in this state. It is a strange phenomenon," Burke said at a news conference at the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives. "Drug cartels go shopping for their war weapons here in Arizona."

At least 17 people were arrested Tuesday in five cases involving a joint crackdown by the ATF, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, the Internal Revenue Service and the Phoenix Police Department.

Burke said the five cases have gutted an entire firearms organization in Arizona from top to bottom, from straw buyers to organizers to financers.

Charges include making false statements on federal firearms-purchase forms, conspiracy and possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug-trafficking offense, according to the indictment.

"Straw buyers have as much blood on their hands ... as the ones who pull the trigger," said Bill Newell, special agent in charge of the Phoenix ATF.

All of those indicted are U.S. citizens or legal residents.

The indictments reveal the relative ease with which citizens who have not been convicted of a felony can amass an arsenal of weapons.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/0...

red state. go figure.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#838448 Jan 13, 2013
Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis

Fresh off the false and politicized attack on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, today we’re hearing the know-nothings blame the subprime crisis on the Community Reinvestment Act — a 30-year-old law that was actually weakened by the Bush administration just as the worst lending wave began. This is even more ridiculous than blaming Freddie and Fannie.

The Community Reinvestment Act, passed in 1977, requires banks to lend in the low-income neighborhoods where they take deposits. Just the idea that a lending crisis created from 2004 to 2007 was caused by a 1977 law is silly. But it’s even more ridiculous when you consider that most subprime loans were made by firms that aren’t subject to the CRA. University of Michigan law professor Michael Barr testified back in February before the House Committee on Financial Services that 50% of subprime loans were made by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision and another 30% were made by affiliates of banks or thrifts which are not subject to routine supervision or examinations. As former Fed Governor Ned Gramlich said in an August, 2007, speech shortly before he passed away:“In the subprime market where we badly need supervision, a majority of loans are made with very little supervision. It is like a city with a murder law, but no cops on the beat.”

Not surprisingly given the higher degree of supervision, loans made under the CRA program were made in a more responsible way than other subprime loans. CRA loans carried lower rates than other subprime loans and were less likely to end up securitized into the mortgage-backed securities that have caused so many losses, according to a recent study by the law firm Traiger & Hinckley (PDF file here).

Finally, keep in mind that the Bush administration has been weakening CRA enforcement and the law’s reach since the day it took office. The CRA was at its strongest in the 1990s, under the Clinton administration, a period when subprime loans performed quite well. It was only after the Bush administration cut back on CRA enforcement that problems arose, a timing issue which should stop those blaming the law dead in their tracks. The Federal Reserve, too, did nothing but encourage the wild west of lending in recent years. It wasn’t until the middle of 2007 that the Fed decided it was time to crack down on abusive pratices in the subprime lending market. Oops.

http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insight...
GhostofRaygun

Russellville, KY

#838449 Jan 13, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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The term "fascism" is a twentieth century term. However, the concept of fascism is as old as dictatorship. Fascism occurs when a dictator uses the concept of nationalism to command allegiance to himself, as opposed to using the concept of authority to command that allegiance.
When such people as Napoleon commanded that everyone who loved France must love him was instituting a fascist principle.
I'd like to read that executive order.
If the law stated money will be spent on stem cell research, then the president cannot issue an executive order that violates existing law.
If a law does not state specifically that money will be used for stem cell research, but within the agency that disburses the funds they fund stem cell research, then it is within the Constitutional authority of an executive order to restrict the general distribution of money.
That would have been very easy to rectify. An executive order cannot violate any law. So, all Congress needed to do was write a specific law funding stem cell research, and no executive order would have the authority to stop it.
That's the way it works in the government of the United States.
So, please reference the law that specifically funded stem cell research, and reference the executive order that violated that law.
Text from each would be helpful.
You are a hypocrite. Bush signed 291 EOs. Most were after 9/11 and most were about spying on the American public without court orders. Were you outraged back then??????????

Since: Nov 09

Pharr, TX

#838450 Jan 13, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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The term "fascism" is a twentieth century term. However, the concept of fascism is as old as dictatorship. Fascism occurs when a dictator uses the concept of nationalism to command allegiance to himself, as opposed to using the concept of authority to command that allegiance.
When such people as Napoleon commanded that everyone who loved France must love him was instituting a fascist principle.
I'd like to read that executive order.
If the law stated money will be spent on stem cell research, then the president cannot issue an executive order that violates existing law.
If a law does not state specifically that money will be used for stem cell research, but within the agency that disburses the funds they fund stem cell research, then it is within the Constitutional authority of an executive order to restrict the general distribution of money.
That would have been very easy to rectify. An executive order cannot violate any law. So, all Congress needed to do was write a specific law funding stem cell research, and no executive order would have the authority to stop it.
That's the way it works in the government of the United States.
So, please reference the law that specifically funded stem cell research, and reference the executive order that violated that law.
Text from each would be helpful.
In 2006 the House and Senate passed a bill to fund embryonic stem cell research but not with the two-thirds majorities required to override a veto. Bush used his "fascist" power to impose HIS will. You look up the details.
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#838451 Jan 13, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Welcome back.
Thanks, just for a couple more weeks and then I move on. Those cowards die daily and I can only imagine their pain after having their asses handed them "AGAIN".
Atmore Al

Pompano Beach, FL

#838452 Jan 13, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
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Thanks, just for a couple more weeks and then I move on. Those cowards die daily and I can only imagine their pain after having their asses handed them "AGAIN".
Drunken lily says to "gfy". LOL
BLOOMING IDIOTS

Nashville, NC

#838453 Jan 13, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
The seizure of more than 700 guns and the indictments of 34 people announced on Tuesday are further confirmation that Arizona has become an iron highway for weapons into Mexico, according to federal authorities.
Many legal purchases by straw buyers at Arizona gun stores are being financed and orchestrated by Mexico's Sinaloa cartel, federal officials said.
The cases announced Tuesday involved the purchases of many AK-47s,.50-caliber rifles and other semiautomatic weapons in single-day transactions at gun stores by straw buyers paid by the cartel, U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke said.
"This is a huge problem in this state. It is a strange phenomenon," Burke said at a news conference at the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives. "Drug cartels go shopping for their war weapons here in Arizona."
At least 17 people were arrested Tuesday in five cases involving a joint crackdown by the ATF, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, the Internal Revenue Service and the Phoenix Police Department.
Burke said the five cases have gutted an entire firearms organization in Arizona from top to bottom, from straw buyers to organizers to financers.
Charges include making false statements on federal firearms-purchase forms, conspiracy and possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug-trafficking offense, according to the indictment.
"Straw buyers have as much blood on their hands ... as the ones who pull the trigger," said Bill Newell, special agent in charge of the Phoenix ATF.
All of those indicted are U.S. citizens or legal residents.
The indictments reveal the relative ease with which citizens who have not been convicted of a felony can amass an arsenal of weapons.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/0...
red state. go figure.
Fast and Furious scandal: House panel recommends contempt vote on Eric Holder
By Sari Horwitz and Ed O’Keefe,June 20, 2012
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted 23 to 17 to recommend…A congressional committee voted Wednesday to recommend that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. be held in contempt after the Obama administration, citing executive privilege for the first time, refused to turn over documents pertaining to a botched gun-trafficking operation.

The party-line vote at a marathon session of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee intensified a feud between the Obama administration and Republican lawmakers and dealt an embarrassing blow to the nation’s highest-ranking law enforcement official.

House leaders said they will schedule a vote of the entire chamber on the matter next week unless the attorney general turns over certain documents on Operation Fast and Furious. If the full House votes to find Holder in contempt, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — who is employed by the Justice Department — will have to decide whether to criminally prosecute him.

HOW COME COME Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. WAS NOT ARRESTED?THATS RIGHT HE AND OBAMA ARE ABOVE THE LAW!!!YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
carol

Orlando, FL

#838455 Jan 13, 2013
MONTANA wrote:
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Well, it's more of a hiss than a sigh, but whatcha gonna do; it's my nature ... so, how about these intractably stupid hillbillies; you reckon they're gonna kick up much dust when the rubber meets the road, or just do what they always do: beat the old comebucket for burning the tuna casserole again, then stomp out and shoot a couple of stray dogs?
Well, to my eye the whole scenario is kinda like DB in here. He's hanging onto the Constitution for all it's worth, blissfully unaware that it ain't worth the sheep it's printed on. For Christ's sake God didn't write it. Anyways, if I know anything I know this: when southerners fight it's generally a short process. They get angry, do whatever it is they think will alleviate it (beat the wife, whatever) and then it's pretty much of a bum's rush to get back to whatever "game" they were watchin'. They are not people known for their attention span. Nor are they people who look far into the future, witness Iraq.

Probably the simplest way to handle them in a crisis is to leave crates of beer and paper money scattered around the country and then give them hints every so often as to where they might be. Keep the hints pretty general - "it's over there" - or you risk them getting bored, but pretty much all you've got to do is print boxes of money all day and they'll never make the connection. After a while they'll each have a house or trailer full of money and will kill other family members who they suspect of trying to take it. Within a month or two half of them will be dead. These are NOT strategic thinkers. "Hiss" huh? I like that.

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Pharr, TX

#838456 Jan 13, 2013
Atmore Al wrote:
<quoted text> Drunken lily says to "gfy". LOL
Looks like waxturd/goober and the kids are done watching Sunday morning cartoons. We'll have to wait until they take a nap to continue the adult conversation.

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Russellville, KY

#838457 Jan 13, 2013
BLOOMING IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>Fast and Furious scandal: House panel recommends contempt vote on Eric Holder
By Sari Horwitz and Ed O’Keefe,June 20, 2012
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted 23 to 17 to recommend…A congressional committee voted Wednesday to recommend that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. be held in contempt after the Obama administration, citing executive privilege for the first time, refused to turn over documents pertaining to a botched gun-trafficking operation.
The party-line vote at a marathon session of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee intensified a feud between the Obama administration and Republican lawmakers and dealt an embarrassing blow to the nation’s highest-ranking law enforcement official.
House leaders said they will schedule a vote of the entire chamber on the matter next week unless the attorney general turns over certain documents on Operation Fast and Furious. If the full House votes to find Holder in contempt, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — who is employed by the Justice Department — will have to decide whether to criminally prosecute him.
HOW COME COME Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. WAS NOT ARRESTED?THATS RIGHT HE AND OBAMA ARE ABOVE THE LAW!!!YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
Waiting to arrest those behind the first gun walking gone bad named Operation Wide Receiver. You remember,, ATF, they lost guns in Mexico. You Repubs are the most hypocritical bastards on earth.

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finding

Brookland, AR

#838458 Jan 13, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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he should have loaded it with minorities?
Susan Rice? Van Jones? Shirley Sherrod?
who all got a 'fair' shake from conservatives.
so where is Obama's choice? seems conservatives only want white folks in government. otherwise they throw a fit.
he's got to try and get out of this mess he is in.

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