#838210 Jan 12, 2013
Wyoming Bill Would Nullify Obama Gun Control, Jail Feds
Jan 12, 2013
As the Obama administration plots various assaults on gun rights by “executive order” and legislation, proposals described as “very extreme” even by some Democrats, state lawmakers in Wyoming have another idea. Republican legislators are rallying behind nullification legislation that would void unconstitutional infringements on the right to keep and bear arms, even providing prison time for any federal agents who may try to enforce Washington, D.C., gun control in the state. Lawmakers expect it to pass.
The new bill, H.B. 0104 or the “Firearms Protection Act,” would nullify any new federal infringements on the constitutionally protected gun rights of state residents — who enjoy some of the lowest crime rates while being among the most heavily armed people in America. Unconstitutional federal gun registration schemes, as well as restrictions on semi-automatic guns or standard-capacity magazines, would also be nullified under the legislation.
There are teeth in the proposed law too: Any federal official attempting to enforce unconstitutional statutes or decrees infringing on gun rights passed after January 1 of this year would be charged with a felony. If convicted, criminal officials would be punished by up to five years in state prison and a $5,000 fine. The legislation also authorizes the state attorney general to defend citizens of Wyoming if federal authorities seek prosecutions under unconstitutional gun control rules.
At least eight state representatives and two state senators have already sponsored the legislation. And nationwide, support for similar measures is exploding.“We want to get things ahead of the game,” Republican state Rep. Kendell Kroeker, the primary sponsor of the bill, told the Huffington Post.“We take the Second Amendment seriously in Wyoming…. If the federal government is going to pass laws taking back our rights, it is our right as a state to defend those rights.”
#838211 Jan 12, 2013
Citing his oath to support and defend the U.S. and state constitutions, state Rep. Kroeker has been a leader in standing against lawless usurpations of power by the federal government. In a previous session, he introduced legislation to increase the use of gold as currency in the state, for example.“I take an oath to uphold, support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Wyoming,” Kroeker continued, telling reporters that his constituents and activists nationwide were thrilled by the move.“I believe it is my duty to take that oath seriously.”
In a separate interview with the Associated Press, the liberty-minded lawmaker noted that there are “a lot of people” who would seek to take all of Americans’ guns — at least if they could. The only thing restraining them, Kroeker said, is public opposition as well as other lawmakers who take their oaths seriously and are concerned about protecting the people’s unalienable rights.
“We’re a sovereign state with our own constitutional form of government,” he told the AP.“We’ve got a right to make our laws, and if the federal government is going to try to enforce unconstitutional laws on our people and take away the rights of Wyoming citizens, then we as a state are going to step up and make that a crime.”
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
In the state Senate, another co-sponsor of the legislation, Wyoming State Senator Larry Hicks, cited the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which reserves all powers not specifically granted to the federal government to the states or the people. The nullification bill, he added in an interview with the Washington Examiner, will send a message to federal politicians considering further infringements on the rights of his constituents.
“It says that your one size fits all solution doesn’t comport to what a vast majority of the state believes,” Sen. Hicks told the paper about the message federal politicians should be taking from the legislation, telling other reporters that state lawmakers were receiving e-mails in support of the bill from all across America and that citizens were urging their own states to take similar action.“I don’t think this is controversial in Wyoming at all…. I fully expect this bill to pass.”
According to the liberty-minded state senator, even if Congress refuses to budge, the administration is determined to restrict gun ownership by presidential decree.“I think that’s the biggest threat we’re facing,” he told the AP. Sen. Hicks also said that his constituents were “absolutely terrified” about threats from Washington to assault gun rights — especially Vice President Joe Biden’s pledge this week to implement the lawless attack by executive order.
#838212 Jan 12, 2013
"Oh, Joseph, I'm so sorry... I never meant to hurt you, it's just that he was... magnetic, almost, and I've been so lonely out in the barn..."
There is the sound of hard slaps being delivered to a woman's face....
"OKAY, Okay... I'll tell everybody it was an angel and I'm still a virgin, is THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR?
“Seriously Misguided Democrat”
Since: Oct 12
#838213 Jan 12, 2013
Gee, yet another "smart" Democrat, blabbing the same old line.
It's all Bushes fault!
Bush made all those bad loans!
Democrats has no part!
Does a Democrat ever admit fault? Nope.
#838215 Jan 12, 2013
So is wasn't the lending laws that Bush changed in 2003 that within 5 years went bad. According to you it was laws changed 40 years ago that caused it.
#838216 Jan 12, 2013
They are very, very upset that we’re going to see some level of federal takeover of our weapons and abuse of our rights given to us by the Second Amendment,” the state senator was quoted as saying, referring to his constituents.“Also, that the federal government will bypass our legislative officials and confiscate our weapons through executive order. This gives citizens of the Western United States a great deal of concern.”
The AP, in an uncharacteristically honest assessment, pointed out that Wyoming has one of the highest rates of per-capita gun ownership in America, and that it also has among the lowest levels of gun violence.“Part of it’s our culture,” Hicks explained.“Our kids grow up around firearms, and they also grow up hunting, and they know what the consequences are of taking a life. And they know at an early age, whether you hunt or fish, that there’s consequences from pulling that trigger. We’re not insulated from the real world in Wyoming.”
At least one Democrat, Rep. James Byrd, has already expressed his opposition to the plan.“If you want to pick a fight with the feds, let’s pick a fight with the feds that’s about something that means something,” he was quoted as saying by the AP while claiming to be a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment. It was not immediately clear why Byrd thought the unalienable right to keep and bear arms — enshrined in both the Wyoming and U.S. constitutions — was not meaningful.
Predictably, Obama apparatchiks funded by billionaire statist George Soros are already crying foul, too. The far-left “Think Progress” blog, for example, claimed that nullification would be unconstitutional.“The constitution actually stipulates that federal law ‘shall be the supreme law of the land,’” Annie-Rose Strasser alleged falsely, without pointing out the constitutional stipulation that federal laws must be “made in pursuance” with the Constitution. It was not clear whether the writer was simply ignorant of American history and the U.S. Constitution, or whether the false statements were deliberate lies in an effort to confuse readers.
Some analysts quoted in the establishment press, also presumably unfamiliar with history or the U.S. Constitution, have claimed that states may not nullify unconstitutional federal usurpations as well. Of course, American history is replete with examples of nullification — Wisconsin nullified a federal statute purporting to require the return of escaped slaves to their masters, for example. Even Founding Fathers like Thomas Jefferson helped states void unconstitutional legislation in the early years of the Republic.
More recently, states all across America have been putting their foot down. Even causes traditionally associated with liberals, such as marijuana legalization, have succeeded through nullification — Colorado and Washington state both legalized the controversial plant in November, and many other states have approved it for medical use in spite of unconstitutional federal statutes. Conservatives and libertarians have also been relying on nullification, especially in recent years.
As the increasingly out-of-control federal government tries to restrict more and more of Americans’ unalienable rights — with the Second Amendment just the latest target — state lawmakers all across the country are taking action.
Since: Jul 07
#838217 Jan 12, 2013
Calm down before they accuse you of starting a war on women.
#838218 Jan 12, 2013
A bill just introduced in Indiana known as the Firearm Freedom Act, for instance, would also protect the rights of gun owners to be free from federal regulations if the gun was produced and purchased in the state. Similar legislation has already been adopted in other states.
Meanwhile, law-enforcement officials, such as sheriffs and police chiefs, are also developing legal strategies to protect gun rights in their jurisdictions, with some lobbying for nullification measures as well. As The New American reported this week, while the Obama administration seeks to severely infringe on the Second Amendment, talk of mass resistance nationwide is growing in tandem. The president may believe he can violate the Constitution by decree, but it appears that many states have had just about enough of the lawlessness. If Congress refuses to rein in the out-of-control administration, state governments may have to do it instead.
IT IS TIME FOR WE THE PEOPLE TO STAND UP TO THIS DICTATOR OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!
Since: Dec 10
#838219 Jan 12, 2013
We're sorry your side lost the Cold War, that being the side with your heroes being the 3 worst mass murderers in the history of civilization. And, we're sorry the side you hated won the Cold War, that being the United States, the country that used capitalism to lift the world out of the relative stone age it existed in prior to the United States becoming the most significant influence in the world to the relatively luxurous middle class existence evident around the world today.
And, we're sorry we're going to have to fight another war to defeat fascism, which the Democrats will attempt to institute by having Obama write his own laws.
This will certainly begin a civil war to save the constitution, or end the constitutional republic and install a fascist government by the Democrats.
When the smoke clears, the winners will certainly hang the losers.
Don't whine if you're the one having a rope put around your neck. You asked for this. Take it like a man.
See you then.
#838220 Jan 12, 2013
Obama Opposed Gun Ban Exception to Defend One’s Home
by Keith Koffler on January 11, 2013, 9:58 am
As a state senator in Illinois, President Obama opposed legislation providing an exception to handgun restrictions if the weapon was used in the defense of one’s home.
Obama’s vote would have maintained the status quo, which made it a violation of municipal gun ban law to use a firearm to save your own life in your own home. But the bill was passed anyway without his support.
The vote is a sign of how committed Obama may be to strict gun control measures.
The Illinois vote is hardly ancient history, having occurred in 2004 as Obama was running for election to the U.S. Senate. In opposing the measure, Obama lined up well to the left of the mainstream, as the Illinois Senate included 32 Democrats to 26 Republicans but approved the bill by an overwhelming margin and subsequently overrode a veto by then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
Obama did not participate in the veto override, which occurred in November 2004, likely after Obama had resigned his state Senate seat in order to prepare for his new role in the U.S. Senate.
The Illinois legislation was passed after a man who shot a burglar in his home was fined $750 by his town for disobeying its handgun ban. The absurdity and injustice of the situation doesn’t seem to have made much of an impression on Obama.
Just eight years earlier, in 1996, Obama answered “Yes” to a survey question asking whether he would support state legislation to “ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.” The Obama 2008 presidential campaign claimed the form had been filled out by an aide who mischaracterized Obama’s position, even though Obama’s handwriting was found on survey.
#838221 Jan 12, 2013
Were you this upset when Bush43 wrote 291 executive orders? Were you upset about those you hypocrite?
Since: Jul 11
#838222 Jan 12, 2013
There is a big difference to seeing once in a hundred year storm to weather events that suddenly turn up annually. Very soon insurance for homes will be so high it will be unaffordable. They rate risk on the basis of how many times these events occur then set the rates. If radical weather change brings on heatwaves resulting in firestorms, and floods along with hurricanes every 2nd year then its always going to be lose lose situation. You may as well build an Ark!
#838223 Jan 12, 2013
18 Facts That Prove That Piers Morgan Is Flat Out Lying About Gun Control
January 12, 2013
Piers Morgan is getting on television every night and flat out lying to the American people about gun control. Nearly every statistic that he quotes is inaccurate and he fails to acknowledge a whole host of statistics that would instantly invalidate the arguments that he is trying to make. Yes, the UK has a lower gun murder rate than the United States does, but what Piers Morgan fails to tell you is that the overall rate of violent crime in the UK is about 4 times higher than it is in the United States. A woman in the UK is not allowed pull out a gun to protect herself against a gang of potential rapists. So perhaps that explains why the UK has about 125 percent more rape victims per 100,000 people than the United States does. While UK newspapers are declaring that the UK has become the “violent crime capital of Europe”, crime rates in the United States have actually fallen dramatically over the past 20 years. This was also a time period during which gun laws became much less restrictive in the United States. Today, murder rates in the U.S. are generally far higher in cities that have very strict gun control laws (such as Chicago) than they are for the general population. The cold, hard numbers make it clear that when there are more guns there is less crime, but hardcore leftists such as Piers Morgan are absolutely obsessed with gun control and Morgan continues to relentlessly attack the 2nd Amendment night after night. We need to start pointing out that he is not telling the truth.
The following are 18 facts that prove that Piers Morgan is flat out lying about gun control…
#1 The UK has approximately 125 percent more rape victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does.
#2 The UK has approximately 133 percent more assault victims per 100,000 people each year than the United States does.
#3 Piers Morgan continues to insist that there are more than 11,000 gun murders in the United States every year. But that is flat out wrong. According to the FBI, there were 8,583 gun murders in the United States during 2011. And as Ben Swann recently pointed out, 400 of those were justifiable homicides by law enforcement and 260 of those were justifiable homicides by private citizens.
#4 The United States is #1 in the world in gun ownership, and yet it is only 28thin the world in gun murders per 100,000 people.
“Seriously Misguided Democrat”
Since: Oct 12
#838224 Jan 12, 2013
Hey follow old geezer. What's goin' on in Bumpass, hillbilly? A poop festival for old codgers? hahahahaha!
#838226 Jan 12, 2013
Tammy and the Bachelor was a good movie Hollywood GF008 Safer World 2013 Hollywood Ca, needs protection U,S, Gov. I saw AlQaeda firing with machine gun at mirage of Hollywood sign. GF008 Safer World 2013
#838228 Jan 12, 2013
5 The violent crime rate in the United States actually fell from 757.7 per 100,000 in 1992 to 386.3 per 100,000 in 2011. During that same time period, the murder rate fell from 9.3 per 100,000 to 4.7 per 100,000. This was during an era when gun laws in the United States generally became much less restrictive.
#6 The city of Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the United States. So has this reduced crime? Of course not. As I wrote about the other day, the murder rate in Chicago was about 17 percent higher in 2012 than it was in 2011, and Chicago is now considered to be “the deadliest global city“. If you can believe it, there were about as many murders in Chicago during 2012 as there was in the entire nation of Japan.
#7 After the city of Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring every home to have a gun, the crime rate dropped by more than 50 percent over the course of the next 23 years.
#8 Approximately 200,000 women in the United States use guns to protect themselves against sexual crime every single year.
#9 Overall, guns in the United States are used 80 times more often to prevent crime than they are to take lives.
#10 Only about 3.5 percent of the gun murders in the United States are caused by rifles.
#11 According to Gallup, an all-time record 74 percent of all Americans are against a total handgun ban in the United States.
#12 Down in Australia, gun murders increased by about 19 percent and armed robberies increased by about 69 percent after a gun ban was instituted.
#13 When Piers Morgan claims that there are only 35 gun murders in the UK per year, he isn’t exactly being accurate. According to official statistics, there were59 gun murders in the UK in 2011. It is also important to keep in mind that gun crime was already super low even before the gun ban in the UK was instituted, and that a 2009 article in The Telegraph declared that gun crime had doubledover the past decade even though it is widely acknowledged that crime statistics in the UK are massively underreported.
#14 The UK has the fourth highest burglary rate in the EU.
#15 The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
#16 A 2009 article in The Telegraph had this stunning headline:“UK is violent crime capital of Europe“.
#17 Despite the very strict ban on guns in the UK, the truth is that the UK is a far more violent society than the United States is. In one recent year, there were2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people in the UK. In the United States, there were only 466 violent crimes per 100,000 people during that same year. Do we really want to be more like the UK?
#18 According to Gun Owners of America, the governments of the world slaughtered more than 170 million of their own people during the 20th century. The vast majority of those people had been disarmed by their own governments prior to being slaughtered.
But you won’t hear many of these statistics on the mainstream news, will you?
In fact, right now there seems to be some sort of a nationwide backlash against gun advocates. A few high profile gun advocates have even ended up dead in recent days.
For example, self-described “gun nut” Keith Ratliff, the owner of the ninth most popular channel on YouTube, was found dead at his business on January 3rd…
Keith Ratliff, 32, was a channel producer for FPSRussia firearms channel, an account with more than 3 million subscribers that features videos of a man testing a variety of guns.
Ratliff was found shot in the head at his business on Jan. 3, and while police don’t have a motive, they have classified his death as a homicide, FoxNews.com reported Wednesday.
Not only that, one of the most prominent rifle manufacturers in America was killed in a “mysterious car crash” on January 4th. The following is from a recent articleby Mike Adams…
#838229 Jan 12, 2013
John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created.(I own one of his rifles, and it’s a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.) Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.
According to the Outdoor Wire, his car “traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected.”
But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked,“What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?”
That was the last post he ever made.
So are these two incidents just coincidences, or is some sort of a pattern emerging?
Meanwhile, radical leftists are introducing gun grabbing legislation in legislaturesall over the United States.
On the federal level, Barack Obama is developing plans to bypass Congress and use executive orders to implement his gun control agenda.
There seems to be an all-out attempt to bring strict gun control to the United States. It is going to be very important to get the facts out and show people that reducing the number of guns is not going to make us all safer.
Please share this article with as many people as you can. Hopefully this list of facts will help to change some minds.
#838230 Jan 12, 2013
Save that one to post again later after the shyt filters through this thread.
Some may actually recall all the special news reports of flippers buying properties and parcels with zero down based solely on their high beacon scores. Oh and those refinancing their modest homes into oblivion based solely on their beacon scores. No Cash? No problem eh? All the fk you need is a high beacon and a steady paycheck and we can do business right now today. The equity express will put you in the millionaire club.
#838231 Jan 12, 2013
Oh, calm down yourself. The last thing women need is another man telling them what to do.
“Seriously Misguided Democrat”
Since: Oct 12
#838232 Jan 12, 2013
What's this crazy idea about Democrats trying to come up with new coins? If the Fluker in charge of Democrat debt limit ideas now? Crazy Nancy Pelosi involved?
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