Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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So. Bush had budgets.
So you are saying it was Bush's plan to double the debt & create the worst recession in 80 years?
You forgot to tell us how Bush paid for his government.
i keep telling him....

China.
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The Petty, Spiteful Critics of Hagel
That the selection offends and annoys people whose foreign policy recommendations have been so disastrous for the country is an additional piece of confirmation that Hagel was the better choice.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...
P.S. There isn’t any need to “punish” Republican hawks with individual Cabinet nominations. That’s silly. Their party has lost the last three of four elections, which is why they aren’t in a position to install one of their own at the Pentagon. Throwing a fit over Hagel’s nomination is one of the most obvious cases of sour grapes in recent years.
Most of the critics of Hagel come from the left. For those on the right, Hagel is as much as could be expected from an Obama determined to destroy the American military.
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The real-time video was being watched at several DoD facilities. Only an idiot would believe it wasn't being watched in the White House, too.
So, who in the White House was watching the real-time video of the Al Qaeda attack in Benghazi?
Where exactly was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security detatchment while it was being watched in the White House?
one has to wonder why your version of the events can only be found on fringe right wing sites.
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I git sad news for you pony tail mafia I am not a member. I will have you infiltrated. Obey the laws of the Old West. GF008 Safer World 2013
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sonicfilter wrote:
The Petty, Spiteful Critics of Hagel
That the selection offends and annoys people whose foreign policy recommendations have been so disastrous for the country is an additional piece of confirmation that Hagel was the better choice.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...
P.S. There isn’t any need to “punish” Republican hawks with individual Cabinet nominations. That’s silly. Their party has lost the last three of four elections, which is why they aren’t in a position to install one of their own at the Pentagon. Throwing a fit over Hagel’s nomination is one of the most obvious cases of sour grapes in recent years.
Senate Republicans should boycott the vote on Hagel, take no position, and see if the Democrats have enough votes for confirmation.

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<quoted text> You forget that every person who joins the military swears to uphold the constitution not the word of the president.
Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
"I, XXXXXXXXXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Note the "I will obey the orders of the President of the United States "
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Opponents Play The Hitler Card On Gun Control, Supporters Say It’s Not Gonna Work This Time
.....gun control activists say their opponents have missed the mark with the Hitler stuff, and they’re going to find that post-Newtown, the public has no stomach for it.
“I don’t think pro-gun activists get it. I think that when they’re throwing around Hitler and Stalin, people are thinking about the children who were massacred in that classroom and wondering,‘what the hell are you talking about?’” said Ladd Everitt, spokesperson for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.“I don’t think mentally stable individuals think like these folks. I think they are focused on six and seven year-old kids who were massacred by a lunatic who should never have gotten anywhere near those guns and wondering what in the world are they talking about.”
There’s evidence Everitt is onto something. So far, the general public has not reacted well to bluster — Hitler-focused or otherwise — from the gun rights community following Newtown. Everitt cited reactions to the viral video of radio host Alex Jones, who’s often criticized by mainstream conservatives and is a big pusher of the gun-control-equals-Hitler theory. Jones appeared on with CNN’s Piers Morgan and made the same claim he’s made times before. Everitt said it was proof the public isn’t warming to conspiracy theories related to gun control.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/ob...
"Lunatic" is the key word and should be the focus of response.

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sonicfilter wrote:
Opponents Play The Hitler Card On Gun Control, Supporters Say It’s Not Gonna Work This Time
.....gun control activists say their opponents have missed the mark with the Hitler stuff, and they’re going to find that post-Newtown, the public has no stomach for it.
“I don’t think pro-gun activists get it. I think that when they’re throwing around Hitler and Stalin, people are thinking about the children who were massacred in that classroom and wondering,‘what the hell are you talking about?’” said Ladd Everitt, spokesperson for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.“I don’t think mentally stable individuals think like these folks. I think they are focused on six and seven year-old kids who were massacred by a lunatic who should never have gotten anywhere near those guns and wondering what in the world are they talking about.”
There’s evidence Everitt is onto something. So far, the general public has not reacted well to bluster — Hitler-focused or otherwise — from the gun rights community following Newtown. Everitt cited reactions to the viral video of radio host Alex Jones, who’s often criticized by mainstream conservatives and is a big pusher of the gun-control-equals-Hitler theory. Jones appeared on with CNN’s Piers Morgan and made the same claim he’s made times before. Everitt said it was proof the public isn’t warming to conspiracy theories related to gun control.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/ob...
you do realize that the Federal Assault Weapons Ban was enacted & in place and it didnt stop Eric David Harris & Dylan Bennett Klebold from massacring their fellow students at Columbine High School plus remember gun laws only restrict law abiding citizens.
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Most of the critics of Hagel come from the left. For those on the right, Hagel is as much as could be expected from an Obama determined to destroy the American military.
The Campaign Against Hagel Isn’t Just About Policy

The Post story on the politics of Hagel’s confirmation makes a point I’ve touched on before:

There have been fights in the past over presidents’ nominees, but longtime observers say the attacks on Hagel’s policy positions are unprecedented.

“I have never seen anything like this,” said Lawrence J. Korb, an assistant secretary of defense during the Reagan administration. He and others recalled the clash over former senator John Tower’s nomination to be defense secretary in 1989. But the objections in the Texas Republican’s case turned on questions of morality and character, not policy.

That’s true, but it’s worth adding that the smear campaign against Hagel isn’t just focused on policy differences. Instead, this campaign is aimed at using policy differences to tar Hagel’s reputation either by grossly distorting his views into something they’re not or drawing wild, fantastical conclusions about what his views must imply. Hagel’s loudest critics have sought to vilify him in the most scurrilous way possible by imputing prejudices to him that he doesn’t have and by trying to cast his legitimate policy disagreements as moral failures. All of these things are baseless attacks on Hagel’s character.

The attacks on Hagel’s views are unprecedented in a Cabinet nomination process, but they’re only too familiar from the foreign policy debate of the last twenty years. The purpose of the attacks is to limit the range of foreign policy views that can be held, cow would-be dissenters (especially those inside the GOP) into keeping quiet, and reinforce the exceedingly narrow boundaries of what views are considered acceptable. Fortunately, these tactics have been so overused in the last ten years that their effectiveness has diminished considerably.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...

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that was a pretty good excuse.
try this one....Nixon. Fema. E.O. 11490.
Here it is:

http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/11490....

I don't see anything in it that is a directive to the population. The closest thing I see to that is:

"Local law enforcement. Upon request, consult with and assist the Department of Defense to plan, develop, and distribute materials...." (no edicts issued here)

"Assist the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare in planning a national program and developing technical guidance for States...." (no edicts issued here)

"Develop programs and encourage the exploration, development, and mining of strategic and critical minerals...." (no edicts issued here)

I can't find a single edict directly issued to the population in that executive order.

Can you specifically identify it? Since that was your reference, it is assumed that you are familliar with it.
Please provide text from that executive order that is an edict issued to the population, and not an instruction given to a functional part of the Executive Branch.

... nice try, idiot.

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Hitler, Stalin and Mao would never have been able to commit their mass murders against an armed population.
How's that?
Please tell us one DEMOCRATIC country where the government was elected that has overrun it's people with force ?

Let's just say one of you hot heads formed an overthrow of Obama and took the whitehouse. What do you think would happen ? Would the Military take orders from them, or would it split into another Nth vs Sth civil war. It doesn't matter wtf senerio you guys come up with it still makes a mum n pop with a gun of any sort totally useless against any of that force. So you are kicking a dead horse that belongs back in muzzle loader time.
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Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
"I, XXXXXXXXXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Note the "I will obey the orders of the President of the United States "
The UCMJ provisions are all qualified by reference to "lawful" orders.

Of course, dumbass Dave would shoot the supermarket clerk if ordered to do so by Obama. Stupid lemming.

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Stephen Waxman wrote:
Hey, Roy, I wonder what the Chamber is going to say when they discover how you spend your days? Probably they'll rally behind you, son, Yankees are well known for their tolerance towards ignorant greedy racists. Naomi's likely to be disappointed in you but heck that's been on a downhill slide for years now. Good God, I killed a man near you long ago... Bob somebody.... oh well, suffice it to say he was just trying to run a business and get ahead. Looks to me like the old place is falling apart, Roy? Maybe Muddy can help you fix it up, you figure?
You may have killed a half-rack of Tombstone but a man?? That'd require a face to back confrontation, something you're a little squeamish about and ill equipped to do, killing a man is harder than you imagine. And like I said before, I'm retired, no more construction, but that doesn't preclude destruction, come on by, I'll show you what I mean.

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The man gave you a slam dunk answer and you still did not comprehend. Why, because those same filters in your brain which dismisses climate science, gun control and anything else that makes sense engages anytime some facts comes your way.
It was known for at least 20 yrs the boomers hitting retirement was going to break the back of the economy model. Yet NOTHING was done about it, Obama had to drag you lot kicking & screaming on health care to try and address some of it.
Next the taxes to pay for all this extra demand on the government to pay for that as well. Same idea, same response from your lot.
Put on top of that a World economic collapse cause by the very same people you vote for then I'd say he is more than dealing with the forces of evil. He has the dark side right here in his own backyard. Like that idiot who came on to the Piers Morgan show ranting on about gun control. Then your lot want him deported lol
This is your idea of free speech, as long as i agree with it.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/07/us/piers-mo...
Since you seem to recall that answer, can you post it here?
The answer to the first question is simply a location.
The answer to the second question is simply a source of money.
It can't get any simpler than that.

Please remind us of what the answers were.

Where exactly was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security detatchment while it was being watched real-time in the White House?

And;

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

Location?
Source of money?

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Please tell us one DEMOCRATIC country where the government was elected that has overrun it's people with force ?
Let's just say one of you hot heads formed an overthrow of Obama and took the whitehouse. What do you think would happen ? Would the Military take orders from them, or would it split into another Nth vs Sth civil war. It doesn't matter wtf senerio you guys come up with it still makes a mum n pop with a gun of any sort totally useless against any of that force. So you are kicking a dead horse that belongs back in muzzle loader time.
Germany.
Next?

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Hitler, Stalin and Mao would never have been able to commit their mass murders against an armed population.
How's that?
Exactly Right even Vladimir Lenin even knew what you could do with a country where the civilians are unarmed and how easy it is to force Social Change.

"One man with a gun can control 100 without one."

Vladimir Lenin

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/vl...
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As Secretary of Defense, even in an Obama administration, Hagel will become one of the three or four most visible and prominent Republicans in the country. Moreover, he is an exemplary representative of a political type which used to be prominent, when the party was far stronger nationally; a type which has since become nearly invisible, to the party’s great detriment. Hagel is essentially an Eisenhower Republican–a fiscal conservative, with combat experience in war, roots in the American heartland, and an awareness that it is far easier to get into wars than get out of them.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-ha...
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As for trench coat mafia I feel you were responsible for Columnine I had two I sue to wear at Mexican Le Hasiende De Lupe I unarmed in these even though other hombres thought I was packing. If I hear of you I will swear in Posse of Storm Troopers Wolfpack State. GF008 Safer World 2013

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mdbuilder wrote:
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You may have killed a half-rack of Tombstone but a man?? That'd require a face to back confrontation, something you're a little squeamish about and ill equipped to do, killing a man is harder than you imagine. And like I said before, I'm retired, no more construction, but that doesn't preclude destruction, come on by, I'll show you what I mean.
Honey, I'll come by anytime you want, but I'm so amusing you might find yourself enjoying my company and then where'd we be? I'd take issue with your bold claims but you and I both know it's all bullshit. I spent 30 years clipping imperious clowns on the back of the head, literally. I know exactly how hard it is to kill a "man" with just my hands. Probably the equivalent of how hard it is to find one. My new routine is vary simple, like me, in fact. I'm old. Nobody expects an old man to be able to kick them in the face. That fraction of a second when it registers on their faces what's happened are the most pleasurable times in my life these days. It used to be fishing and before that it was fucking but time passes, eh? So, um, you think you're "bad," huh? Maybe you are? I'm going to assume you are because it would be foolish to think I'm the only bad guy in Dodge so I don't. I'm careful. When I hunt a man I take a cane and some old shoes and a plain gray jacket. You won't even see it coming, you're right. Behinds are things I understand better than anyone. All you got to do is ask, honey, I'm your man... in a not-gay way.

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Since you seem to recall that answer, can you post it here?
The answer to the first question is simply a location.
The answer to the second question is simply a source of money.
It can't get any simpler than that.
Please remind us of what the answers were.
Where exactly was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security detatchment while it was being watched real-time in the White House?
And;
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
Location?
Source of money?
One more thing about Libya, where are the survivors, I read there was around thirty of them, why haven't they been heard from?

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