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John Galt

Temecula, CA

#835916 Jan 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Well, that is something we'll never know. They don't all kill themselves. I'd personally rather be dead than rot in a prison for life. It does not prevent a person from committing a crime; that has been proven. The moral issue with the death penalty is this:
If murder is a crime punishable by death, how can the state commit another murder? In addition to the thousands who have been exonerated from death row after the great work by the Innocence Project. What if they're innocent?
The CT murderer's mother was apparently trying to have her son committed to a mental institution, but was unable to do so.

Addressing that problem would be far more effective than trying to disarm honest American citizens. Particularly defenseless women.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#835917 Jan 9, 2013
On a more humorous note....

In the news today:

In the never-ending drama of the 2008 bailouts, AIG has gone from thanking America in a major ad buy to threatening to sue the federal government. As reported by Reuters via Huffington Post:

AIG confirmed on Tuesday that its board would meet Wednesday to discuss joining a lawsuit filed against the government by the insurer’s former chief executive, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg.

Greenberg, whose Starr International owned 12 percent of AIG before its near-collapse, has accused the New York Fed of using the rescue to bail out Wall Street banks at the expense of shareholders, and of being a “loan shark” by charging exorbitant interest on the initial loan.

A federal judge in Manhattan dismissed Greenberg’s suit in November; a separate suit under different legal theories in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims is still pending.

On the one hand, this is utterly ridiculous. AIG was saved by government intervention, and now within a month of paying off its loan it is suing? Additionally, what did AIG’s executives expect when the bailout happened? Did they think they were going to be treated like kings?

While I am open to being a little sympathetic to potential improprieties by the federal government – one of many reasons bailouts are bad – the fact is that AIG took a loan from the federal government. It did so knowing it would go bankrupt otherwise, and that stockholders would probably lose more value than whatever expenses they allegedly incurred due to federal mismanagement or corruption. Lastly, I have strong doubts AIG’s executives were at all surprised at the interest rate when they signed for the loan under their own free will.

The drama of 2008 is still unfolding, as is the cost of the bailout. Another reason the federal government should not bail out companies ever again.

Can you believe this? I can. It's well known that if you prevent any animal from doing what it is genetically programmed to do and feed itself by giving to it everything it needs, that animal will turn on you to do what it is genetically programmed to do: get more.
This is no different than what the people being programmed to rely upon the government plantation for everything they need will do. It is inevitable that there will be a demand for more.
It is also inevitable that, because they have never developed the means to provide for themselves either physically or economically, they will have no other choice than to steal what they have been programmed to expect to receive.
I can't see anything but a murderous disaster coming from a situation like this. People providing for themselves are not going to peacefully give up what they need to provide for people who will not provide for themselves. It's just a matter of genetically programmed human instinct.
Reading from a teleprompter won't change that.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#835918 Jan 9, 2013
Homer 2013 wrote:
The Lend-Lease Act was enacted in March 1941.
Correct, but the US was providing military assistance by other means prior to that date.
Homer 2013

Bethlehem, PA

#835919 Jan 9, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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Sorry. I meant to say Poland.
That set the stage for everything.
The amount of munitions going to Russia amounted to less than 10 percent of what Russia used in their war with Germany. So, that being the case, how could it have possibly been that the United States armed Stalin, which the most ignorant poster here stated?
Apology accepted. Show me where it's less than 10 percent, although I am not disagreeing it very may well have been. But you need to also facter in non-munitions such as rail, trucks, etc things that are not 'munitions' and look at the total picture.
Homer 2013

Bethlehem, PA

#835920 Jan 9, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
On a more humorous note....
In the news today:
In the never-ending drama of the 2008 bailouts, AIG has gone from thanking America in a major ad buy to threatening to sue the federal government. As reported by Reuters via Huffington Post:
AIG confirmed on Tuesday that its board would meet Wednesday to discuss joining a lawsuit filed against the government by the insurer’s former chief executive, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg.
Greenberg, whose Starr International owned 12 percent of AIG before its near-collapse, has accused the New York Fed of using the rescue to bail out Wall Street banks at the expense of shareholders, and of being a “loan shark” by charging exorbitant interest on the initial loan.
A federal judge in Manhattan dismissed Greenberg’s suit in November; a separate suit under different legal theories in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims is still pending.
On the one hand, this is utterly ridiculous. AIG was saved by government intervention, and now within a month of paying off its loan it is suing? Additionally, what did AIG’s executives expect when the bailout happened? Did they think they were going to be treated like kings?
While I am open to being a little sympathetic to potential improprieties by the federal government – one of many reasons bailouts are bad – the fact is that AIG took a loan from the federal government. It did so knowing it would go bankrupt otherwise, and that stockholders would probably lose more value than whatever expenses they allegedly incurred due to federal mismanagement or corruption. Lastly, I have strong doubts AIG’s executives were at all surprised at the interest rate when they signed for the loan under their own free will.
The drama of 2008 is still unfolding, as is the cost of the bailout. Another reason the federal government should not bail out companies ever again.
Can you believe this? I can. It's well known that if you prevent any animal from doing what it is genetically programmed to do and feed itself by giving to it everything it needs, that animal will turn on you to do what it is genetically programmed to do: get more.
This is no different than what the people being programmed to rely upon the government plantation for everything they need will do. It is inevitable that there will be a demand for more.
It is also inevitable that, because they have never developed the means to provide for themselves either physically or economically, they will have no other choice than to steal what they have been programmed to expect to receive.
I can't see anything but a murderous disaster coming from a situation like this. People providing for themselves are not going to peacefully give up what they need to provide for people who will not provide for themselves. It's just a matter of genetically programmed human instinct.
Reading from a teleprompter won't change that.
Bush bailed out AIG, Obama didn't become president until 2009.
Homer 2013

Bethlehem, PA

#835921 Jan 9, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, but the US was providing military assistance by other means prior to that date.
Yes, no thanks to the isolationist Republicans, they would have let the Nazi's take over the world. Homer just getting the dates corrected.
GhostofRaygun

Russellville, KY

#835922 Jan 9, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
For the "special" people in the class, to answer the question you actually have to identify a source of money.
Nobody here has yet answered the question of where the money will come from to pay for Obama's government.
The inescapable reality is, if that question isn't answered the government collapses and the existence of the United States ends.
So:
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
From taxes. Next question.
Homer 2013

Bethlehem, PA

#835923 Jan 9, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
If Obama tried to turn the military against the American people, doubt that they would obey.
But if they did, the Socialist Democrats would never win another election. Of course, there might never be another election.
Gun control, beyond minimal measures, is a losing political issue, a huge loser.
'Obama tried to turn the military against the American people' You rightwingers are getting seriously paranoid LOL!

Since: Jan 13

Windsor, Ct.

#835924 Jan 9, 2013
Chicagoan by Birth wrote:
<quoted text>You might have given one reason, they would rather be dead, than rot in prison. Where is it proven that thought of prison, doesn't prevent a crime?? The State does not commit murder. They execute murderers.
Well, that's not quite true is it? The "state" just recently executed 300,000 Iraqi civilians by mistake. This doesn't even account for the many retarded texans and other southerners it dispatched (I'm not actually opposed to executing texans it should be said.) You, the elite of the conservative movement, have developed the remarkable ability to compartmentalize almost every word in the language. When a "fetus" is "aborted" it's "murder." But when a crack baby is removed to a state institution where it will ferment over time to become a vicious killer it is merely justice and an example of the failure of liberal democracy. I believe Leo refers to this form of speech I employ as "casting pearls before swine," but that's far too generous. Pigs are as gods compared to your tortuous and self-serving "reasoning."

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#835925 Jan 9, 2013
Homer 2013 wrote:
DBWriter off by a couple years on just about everything, maybe that is why he blames the Democrats for all the country's ills.
Well, Homeo, I guess you want to get out on the sawdust and dance for us, too.
Here are the questions nobody on Earth has been able to answer:

Exactly where was Obama when the real-time video of the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security detatchment was being watched in the White House?

And;

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

To date, nobody on Earth has been able to answer those questions. Do you have an answer? Or, are you just another ignorant dupe here?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#835926 Jan 9, 2013
carol wrote:
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I agree. So maybe it's time we put the ugly truth out there and show what an abortion is really like in high schools and even middle schools.
One video is all it would take to make a difference in the mindset of young people's views about abortion.
Just showing 4D sonograms of babies in the womb as early as two months' gestation would go a long way to educate young people.
It's like when we had to watch videos of the worst kind of car wrecks in high school to make us more aware of being better drivers in driver's ed.
But schools were run by people who actually cared about us and our well-being back then.
It's been done on a limited scale Carol__to no avail. Many other ideas have failed, remember the abstinence promises where little girls were made to stand at the alter in front God and promise not to do the nasty? They got knocked up on par with little girls who didn't make the pledge.

There's an old saying, if they've got P's they eff, use your imagination.

The White House office of faith based and community initiatives failed because it never had a mission__it was a BS deal to make idiots like you feel all warm and fuzzy. People sat in that office for eight years waiting for someone to tell them what to do.

Since: Jan 13

Windsor, Ct.

#835928 Jan 9, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
On a more humorous note....
In the news today:
In the never-ending drama of the 2008d would meet Wednesday to discuss joining a lawsuit filed against the government by the insurer’s former chief executive, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg.
Greenberg, whose Starr International owned 12 percent of AIG before its near-collapse, has accused the New York Fl from doing what it is genetically programmed to do and feed itself by giving to it ev
This is no different than what the people being programmeddo. It is inevitable that there willrom a situation like this. People providin just a matter of genetically programmed human instinct.
Reading from a teleprompter won't change that.
No, what's "ridiculous" is a middle aged man walking around with a skull on the back of his denim jacket asking questions which he doesn't want to hear the answers to.

Since: Jan 13

Windsor, Ct.

#835931 Jan 9, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
On a more humorous note....
In the news today:
In the never-ending drama of the 2he bailout happened? Did they think they were going to be treated like kings?
While I am open to being a little sympa a loan from the federal government. It did so knose more value than whatever expenses they allegedly incurred due to federal mismanagement or corruption. Lastly, I havrogrammed to do and feed itself by giving to it everythysically or economically, they will have no other choice than to steal what they have been programmed to expect to receive.
I can't see anything but a murderous dis a matter of genetically programmed human instinct.
Reading from a tele won't change that.
I neglected to mention you are a spammer and that's not a substitute for eating the little wax cakes in the urinals to get along and get ahead. Or, did you mean, get a head?
Homer 2013

Bethlehem, PA

#835932 Jan 9, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Homeo, I guess you want to get out on the sawdust and dance for us, too.
Here are the questions nobody on Earth has been able to answer:
Exactly where was Obama when the real-time video of the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security detatchment was being watched in the White House?
And;
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
To date, nobody on Earth has been able to answer those questions. Do you have an answer? Or, are you just another ignorant dupe here?
Not being right at his side during that time period I dunno, check with the secret service or go with where he tells you he was. We haven't paid for the government since I think 1957, last time we had a balanced budget, we came close when Clinton became president but Bush shot that all to hell.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#835933 Jan 9, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd gladly pay for a concerted effort to bring awareness to the ugliness of abortion and the consequences of being stupid.
It'd probably be a lot cheaper too.
But as long as abortion is considered a perfectly acceptable contraceptive choice and everyone keeps avoiding the social pressure to prevent it or at least decrease the numbers, no one is going to address it. Certainly, not you.
Your liberal blinders prevent you from seeing that many democrats are also anti-abortion. It's periphery vision that blinds you. But go ahead and keep adjusting your blinders. You might get spooked otherwise.
Got bad news for you, Lorac.

You're already paying for the consequences of being stupid.

Look around your hovel. What do you see?? Used furniture.

Look in the driveway. What do you see?? A badly built used Jeep.

I rest my case.

Since: Jan 13

Windsor, Ct.

#835935 Jan 9, 2013
maddmaxx7 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd settle for deporting him to Kenya. Along with that idiot Biden.
Who cares what you'd "settle for?" You're an idiot. Why, in heaven's name, would anyone "care" about you when you "care" only about yourself, pray tell?
GhostofRaygun

Russellville, KY

#835936 Jan 9, 2013
maddmaxx7 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd settle for deporting him to Kenya. Along with that idiot Biden.
I bet you and all your American Taliban would just love that. Why should America have the freedom to choose it's leaders by free election? Let's just ask your dumbass to do it for us all.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#835937 Jan 9, 2013
Homer 2013 wrote:
<quoted text>Bush bailed out AIG, Obama didn't become president until 2009.
Well, dufus, I believe the article referenced the New York Fed and its unscrupulous tactics employed ... that being none other than Tim Geithner, the person the Democrats want to put as head of the Federal Reserve.
Thanks for playing, dufus. Next?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#835938 Jan 9, 2013
Stephen Waxman wrote:
<quoted text>
I neglected to mention you are a spammer and that's not a substitute for eating the little wax cakes in the urinals to get along and get ahead. Or, did you mean, get a head?
Spam
Nuts
Clueless
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#835939 Jan 9, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
The CT murderer's mother was apparently trying to have her son committed to a mental institution, but was unable to do so.
Addressing that problem would be far more effective than trying to disarm honest American citizens. Particularly defenseless women.
Need for the dad or brother to step up with an accurate story. Mom may have been threatening Adam with hospitalization, certainly she was frustrated and possibly even a tad tetched herself.

She brought the weapons into the home, Adam had his own car and his own walking around money, mom trusted him to a certain degree leaving him on his own etc.

That's not going to be the family to model federal law around.

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