Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Since: Aug 11

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#835827 Jan 9, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
http://jpetrie.myweb.uga.edu/TJ.html
This quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson. It is often seen preceded by the sentence, "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms," which is from Jefferson's draft of the Virginia Constitution.
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/stro...
one thing about the this link it confirms that Jefferson was a Socialist for sure.

One source attributes this quotation to Thomas Jefferson in The Federalist. The Federalist, however, was the work of Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison; it also does not contain the text of this quotation. This quotation is vaguely similar to Jefferson's comment in an 1825 letter to William Short: "Some are whigs, liberals, democrats, call them what you please. Others are tories, serviles, aristocrats, &c. The latter fear the people, and wish to transfer all power to the higher classes of society; the former consider the people as the safest depository of power in the last resort; they cherish them therefore, and wish to leave in them all the powers to the exercise of which they are competent." To date however, the most likely source of this quotation appears to be a series of debates on socialism published in 1914, in which John Basil Barnhill said, "Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/when...

Since: Sep 10

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#835828 Jan 9, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody gives a sh*t about your carbon footprint.
Normal people earn a living, pay their bills, don't depend on the government, and don't try to tell others how to lead their lives.
Not so for dumbass Dave.
Nobody gives a sh*t what you think.
Nobraina's still hawking coal, the least desirable carbon based fuel.

Coal is so out-of-favor, they're closing coal mines all over America!!

Energy providers are converting power plants to natural gas as fast as possible.

And you're an old, dumb coal guy.

Sitting in your tired, old Pennsylvania coal fields.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#835829 Jan 9, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson Quotes
http://jpetrie.myweb.uga.edu/TJ.html
How and when did you get like this?
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#835830 Jan 9, 2013
VeganTiger wrote:
<quoted text>
People who STILL believe a word coming from MMc's mouth are just as big bunch of fools as those who believe Obama. The difference between the two budgets are miniscule. PURE window dressing.
I said it before and say it again:
STOP VOTING FEDERALLY AND SHIFT SLL THAT ATTENTION TO LOCAL POLITICS. Only that has a chance to avoid globalists and their liberal henchmen destroying our freedoms. Don't talk to them, don't help them, let them be. Local politics is the only place where you can still know people face to face. Also, if you still love your liberal neighbor that told you on October that Obama was not taking the guns, call him out on it.
Yesterday, I started a morning greeting with "good morning you %^^&%^(& liar". Interestingly enough, he immediately figured out what I was talking about and started cozying up. When he started talking about the playoff's I just retorted "fukc you", and since then we have not spoken. I doubt I ever will again.
Think this is cruel? Nope, this is one of those people who want ME to get disarmed because of his feelings. This dude is (of course" another phony "hunter" and has both rifle and shotgun. Another liberal liar. Well, guess what, I got more neighbors that like me and see me as a true friend. Sometimes it pays off to be outspoken to the right people.
We can either start pushing back now or wait until we get disarmed and the the ones with political connections or the ones who voted Obama will REAL:LY start treating us like crpa. Just take a look at all the aggression and hostility on this site from liberals. All we want to do is to have our arms and be let alone. Do you libs have the concept of respecting other down yet?
i've had more crap thrown at me by conservatives on this thread then i've seen thrown by liberals. which btw, is nothing but humorous for me.

but i'm not a liberal. nor a conservative.

and that's how we fix the problem. dump all the antiquated ideology and start dealing with reality.

so there ya go. the new party of Political Realists. up to date, and dealing with a Constitution that was written in such a way as to allow Realists to take the original vision and move it into today's world.

an example.....

Justice Scalia:‘It Will Have to Be Decided’ Whether Gov’t Can Regulate Some Types of Guns

“My starting point and probably my ending point will probably be what limitations are within the understood limitations that the society had at the time,” he said.“They had some limitations on the nature of arms that could be borne.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/justice-scali...

Since: Aug 11

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#835831 Jan 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
Talk about a meltdown! These goobers on here probably listen to this nutjob:
I'm here to tell you," Jones yelled, pointing his finger at the talk show host, "1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms!"
The 38-year-old Texan continued, "America was born on guns and whiskey. It's true we're a violent society.... You're a foreigner. You're a redcoat. You're telling us what to do."
"You finished?" a visibly stunned Morgan asked Jones at one point.
Jones also accused Morgan of fleeing to the U.S. to evade questions about the U.K. phone hacking scandal. "You're a hatchet man of a New World Order," Jones said.
Meanwhile, Jones added, England is becoming a police state.“You have hordes of people burning down cities and beating old women’s brains out every day,” Jones stammered. "They arrest people in England if they defend themselves."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/alex-jone...
well Morgan doesnt tell everything either about the Statistics on how effective the gun ban in Great Britian is which isnt working out like they want everyone to believe and crime went up.

Handgun crime 'up' despite ban
Monday, 16 July, 2001

A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.
The research, commissioned by the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting, has concluded that existing laws are targeting legitimate users of firearms rather than criminals.

The ban on ownership of handguns was introduced in 1997 as a result of the Dunblane massacre, when Thomas Hamilton opened fire at a primary school leaving 16 children and their teacher dead.


But the report suggests that despite the restrictions on ownership the use of handguns in crime is rising.

The Centre for Defence Studies at Kings College in London, which carried out the research, said the number of crimes in which a handgun was reported increased from 2,648 in 1997/98 to 3,685 in 1999/2000.

It also said there was no link between high levels of gun crime and areas where there were still high levels of lawful gun possession.

Of the 20 police areas with the lowest number of legally held firearms, 10 had an above average level of gun crime.

And of the 20 police areas with the highest levels of legally held guns only two had armed crime levels above the average.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.st...
RUSH10ME

Emporia, VA

#835832 Jan 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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How and when did you get like this?
In 2008 when the slackers such as your self voted in a mulatto who tries to dictate from above as if he were a god , I hope he tries to collect guns .
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#835833 Jan 9, 2013
Obama Seeks to Appoint Another Bilderberg Group Member to his Administration

Wednesday, January 9, 2013

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/obama-see...

Since: Sep 10

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#835834 Jan 9, 2013
For real wrote:
<quoted text>Are you really that stupid? Ted Cruz is not what I would call a white man. Marco Rubio is also hispanic. Better hope that no more hispanics get up to speed on what you liberals are doing to our country. Wewill be the majority soon and I voted conservative to help preserve my religious rights and my precious freedoms you wackos on the left are trying to take. As more and more Hispanics learn and vote with knowledge instead of tradition, maybe, just maybe we will be able to save our country. Hispanics are family oriented, religiously inclined, God fearing people. Once the rest get up to speed, liberalism will begin to go to hell, with its ilk.
Even th etoken Repuvliclown hispanics have tried to warn their party about the anti-hispanic sentiment within.

Until your side embraces immigration reform, as Bush did, you will lose the hispanic vote by huge margins.

Bush got more hispanic votes than McCain.

MaCain got more hispanic votes than Rmoney.

Seems you're going in the wrong direction.

And all you can hope is that they suddenly embrace the nitwits who want to deport their relatives!!

Not gonna happen!!

It's right wing hatred that will be your death knell!!
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#835835 Jan 9, 2013
Chicagoan by Birth wrote:
<quoted text>Lily, It sure is a deterrent? If, they didn't think they would get the death penalty, why do they kill themselves?
Well, that is something we'll never know. They don't all kill themselves. I'd personally rather be dead than rot in a prison for life. It does not prevent a person from committing a crime; that has been proven. The moral issue with the death penalty is this:
If murder is a crime punishable by death, how can the state commit another murder? In addition to the thousands who have been exonerated from death row after the great work by the Innocence Project. What if they're innocent?

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#835836 Jan 9, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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So you are suggesting we leave it up to people & corporations to limit these voluntarily?
We need action such as tax breaks/penalties, EPA action, and a cap & trade.
Cap ad trade is a scam invented to milk idiots like you of their money.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#835837 Jan 9, 2013
RUSH10ME wrote:
<quoted text>In 2008 when the slackers such as your self voted in a mulatto who tries to dictate from above as if he were a god , I hope he tries to collect guns .
Bingo!

Since: Sep 10

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#835838 Jan 9, 2013
maddmaxx7 wrote:
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Obama, unlike idiot Gore, was savvy enough to realize an anti gun stance would cost him the presidency. Gore wasn't smart enough.
Did Bush steal the election from Gore? Hell no, the big dummy Gore gave it to him.
Actually, Gore won the election by 500,000 votes.

You like proving how ignorant you are, don't you??
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#835839 Jan 9, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>well Morgan doesnt tell everything either about the Statistics on how effective the gun ban in Great Britian is which isnt working out like they want everyone to believe and crime went up.
Handgun crime 'up' despite ban
Monday, 16 July, 2001
A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.
The research, commissioned by the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting, has concluded that existing laws are targeting legitimate users of firearms rather than criminals.
The ban on ownership of handguns was introduced in 1997 as a result of the Dunblane massacre, when Thomas Hamilton opened fire at a primary school leaving 16 children and their teacher dead.
But the report suggests that despite the restrictions on ownership the use of handguns in crime is rising.
The Centre for Defence Studies at Kings College in London, which carried out the research, said the number of crimes in which a handgun was reported increased from 2,648 in 1997/98 to 3,685 in 1999/2000.
It also said there was no link between high levels of gun crime and areas where there were still high levels of lawful gun possession.
Of the 20 police areas with the lowest number of legally held firearms, 10 had an above average level of gun crime.
And of the 20 police areas with the highest levels of legally held guns only two had armed crime levels above the average.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.st...
There were 35 gun murders last year in the UK; how many have we had? 10,000? The police don't have guns either.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#835840 Jan 9, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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the guessing game again.
so you're like the original birther? just keep asking questions that you can't answer?
well we know for a fact that there was no real time video at the moment of the attack, so any inference in that direction is a bust.
any other BS you mistakenly think you can trap me with?
Do you ever open your mouth and not lie?

We know for a fact there was real-time video from drones. We know for a fact this video was being watched in DoD facilities in the region and in the Pentagon.

Here's something from an article published November 15:

"Members of the Senate intelligence committee were shown real time video Thursday of the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the American Embassy in Benghazi.
"The video 'was a combination of video from surveillance cameras [inside the embassy] and drones,' Sen. Dan Coats told reporters as he left the hearing with acting CIA Director Michael Morrell, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and other intelligence officials.
“'It is real time,' committee chairwoman Sen. Dianne Feinstein told reporters after.'It does begin from when the incident– before the incident started, and it goes through the incident and the exodus. I don’t think I should say anymore at this time.'”

If you're going to lie, kindly tell the same lies every other Democrat is telling, like when the entire Obama administration told the same lie for two weeks after Al Qaeda killed 4 Americans in Benghazi. That every person without exception was repeating the exact same lie was impressive. That's one hell of a successful indoctrination program.

Now, back to the question:

Exactly where was Obama during the 7-hour attack between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down American security in Benghazi?
Was he watching the video real-time with everyone else in the government? Or, was he doiong the usual thing he does and just not being part of the government?

Since: Sep 10

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#835841 Jan 9, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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I read, and reread your response, and I still can't see where you identified a source of money.
Can you repost, and this time actually identify a source of money in your post.
The question remains unanswered:
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
If this question isn't answered, the government collapses and the existence of the United States is ended.
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
I'm pretty tired of your lies and ignorance.

You pretended to be an oilman, but you lied. And I caught you in those lies. Just the other day, you insisted that America would not be energy independentunless some CA drilling was done.

You're dead wrong, and here's the proof, from a right wing libertarian who HATES Obama.

http://stockgumshoe.com/reviews/porter-stansb...

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I really enjoy mocking the ignorance from the right!! And you're the most ignorant of all!!

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#835842 Jan 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Well, that is something we'll never know. They don't all kill themselves. I'd personally rather be dead than rot in a prison for life. It does not prevent a person from committing a crime; that has been proven. The moral issue with the death penalty is this:
If murder is a crime punishable by death, how can the state commit another murder? In addition to the thousands who have been exonerated from death row after the great work by the Innocence Project. What if they're innocent?
This from the woman who wants and cheers when innocent babies are aborted.

“Seriously Misguided Democrat”

Since: Oct 12

Chicago Thugtown

#835843 Jan 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Bingo!
Did you say Bingo? Quick - tell Old Raider!

Us old goober love Bingo!

Since: Aug 11

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#835844 Jan 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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How and when did you get like this?
I have alway been pro 2nd amendment & in favor of gun ownership which is everyones Right like any other right granted under the US constitution if they wish to exercise it or not and once they take that right away prepare to loose more rights under the US constitution which the 2nd amendment is what is standing in their way now since the SCOTUS ruling in Mcdonald vs Chicago which incorporated the 2nd down to the state level under the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the 14th amendment which before the 2nd Amendment did not pretain to the states because of the flaw in the 14th amendment and why some say its flawed and which is why for years politicans stated and correct to say that the 2nd amendment does not pretain to the states which was left up to the state constitutions.

Mcdonald vs Chicago decision

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._Chic...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#835845 Jan 9, 2013
Alex Jones on Gun Control

With Supporters Like Jones ...

First the NRA’s weird press conference and now this guy? Conservatives need to find better spokesmen on this and other issues.

http://www.redstate.com/mtmnd/2013/01/08/36/
carol

Orlando, FL

#835846 Jan 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Quel surpris! Everytime I see Marsha Blackburn, I think of you.
Of course she thinks this is the most important issue, it is with all you evangelical control freak misogyists.
Ensuring that taxpayer money isn't funding abortions under the law shouldn't upset you if this isn't the case.

The more you protest, the more I want an audit.

You might not mind paying for abortions, but I do, and the law is on my side.

PP performed more than 330,000 abortions last year and received over 500 million in federal funding.

If PP is not breaking the law, then you have no need to worry.

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