Barack Obama, our next President

[Realtime]

killtaker wrote:

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You ever been to Roscoe's in Hollywood?

Yeah, like I travel 3000 miles for breakfast. I do like chicken and waffles though.

[DBWriter]

RealDave wrote:

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Bush had budgets.
We went from a balanced one to doubling the debt & creating the worse recession in 80 years.
Wow, those budgets really helped.

History class again. This time, don't sleep through it.

First, some civics.
The president cannot invent spending programs. Congress has total control of all spending, revenue and borrowing.

And now, some history.
dot-com bust
Arab jihad murders 3000 Americans and declares a global war on the United States
Wars have a cost.
January, 2007, Democrats take control of all the purse strings of government. Deficit is 0.16 (that's zero point one six) trillion dollars.
What's the deficit today? Did you say 10 times what the deficit was the Democrats started with?
Total debt in 2001 was 5 trillion dollars before the Arab jihad declared war on the United States.
In January, 2007, the Democrats took control of all the purse strings of government with a total debt of 8 trillin dollars, 3 trillion dollars of debt being added due to the dot-com bust and the war the Arab jihad started.
What is the debt today? Did you say twice what the Democrats started with?

The recession was caused by the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing mortgage underwriting program. No escaping that fact.

You may bring this new information to your next indoctrination session. I know it's not included in the material you're programmed to regurgitate.

[DBWriter]

Will Vote for Tax Cut wrote:

So, House Reps went home this evening so that they can come back in 2013, after taxes go up 10%, and then pass a 5% tax break...just so they can say "WHO ME? I didn't vote for no stinkin' tax hike! I only voted to CUT taxes!!"
What a bunch of TOOLS Reps & Tea Baggers are...making the US government the laughing stock of the world. Way to go, ya friggin' BOZOS!!

Revenue is not the problem. Spending is the problem.
Cut spending. After you cut spending, we'll start discussing revenue. First topic, half the population is paying all the income tax for the entire population. What is your proposal to increase the number of people paying taxes?

[DBWriter]

RealDave wrote:

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Valerie Plame's job as to verify the intel that the CIA was getting. She did not verify the intel your lying buddy Bush used to kill 4000 soldiers.

That was her specific job, dufus. And, you're right. She didn't verify anything. If she did, then Clinton wouldn't have bombed Iraq every other goddam day.
Valerie Plame was the managing director for the CIA's intelligence operation on Saddam Hussein's WMD programs.
Vallerie Plame reported to Bill Clinton that Saddam Hussein had viable WMD programs. Valerie Plame reported to Bush43 that Saddam Hussein had viable WMD programs.
Valerie Plame was responsible for the WMD part of the 18 UN resolutions being ignored justification to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq.
That was her assigned job. She headed the operation. She generated all analysis given to Clinton, who used it to bomb Iraq every other day, and to Bush 43, who used it to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

[Will Vote for Tax Cut]

DBWriter wrote:

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Revenue is not the problem. Spending is the problem.
Cut spending. After you cut spending, we'll start discussing revenue. First topic, half the population is paying all the income tax for the entire population. What is your proposal to increase the number of people paying taxes?

Since WHEN do House Reps consider actual issues such as this? You know full well exactly what they will do on 1/2/2013 - vote for a fake tax cut thereby approving a tax hike. Do you think there is any other ending to this game?

[OzRitz]

Will Vote for Tax Cut wrote:

So, House Reps went home this evening so that they can come back in 2013, after taxes go up 10%, and then pass a 5% tax break...just so they can say "WHO ME? I didn't vote for no stinkin' tax hike! I only voted to CUT taxes!!"
What a bunch of TOOLS Reps & Tea Baggers are...making the US government the laughing stock of the world. Way to go, ya friggin' BOZOS!!

This is was the prediction after Obama got re-elected. Rather than accepting the peoples voice, they want to hear their own even thou the world consensus view is tea baggers are idiots. Not only deliberately bring the US economy down, it will make another big hit on the world economy compounding the problem. All over not wanting to pay tax. It is so f...d up its like you are dealing with stone age thinking.
Who would set out to deliberately destroy their own country over greed. These ppl do & do it over n over again. It is exactly the same as burning your house down in protest over land tax increase. No other word for it, America's Taliban are alive and well.

[TheIndependentMa jority]

DBWriter wrote:

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Name any place in the entire United States where anyone was not afforded health care.
You can't. That place doesn't exist.
The biggest health care problem for children was irresponsible parents.

Gonna have to call ya on reality of a different sort here..back in time some before Hillary's day...try working 40(+ even)@ little more minimum wage...just enough to be over the too poor but not ppor enough line--even just on basic bare bones to live- bills.
There was NO affording "free market health insurance". Trust me on that one.

(that seedy side of politics always stinks!!)

[OzRitz]

DBWriter wrote:

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Revenue is not the problem. Spending is the problem.
Cut spending. After you cut spending, we'll start discussing revenue. First topic, half the population is paying all the income tax for the entire population. What is your proposal to increase the number of people paying taxes?

Bull$hit! CUT WHAT!! Every state has taken big hits on lost money from the feds and it is obvious even your own ppl posting here about counties having to reduce police and fire depts due to no money.
Yet you say MORE can be cut. How about killing off anyone over 60, that would help fix the budget. Kill off anyone whose IQ is lower than 80 , that would help as well. Then all that would be left is a smart younger generation to start over without all the BS.

[TheIndependentMa jority]

DBWriter wrote:

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"Budget"
That makes me laugh. We haven't had a budget in 4 years, and there's not even a budget to be discussed.
I guess the so-called "progressives" will have to change the definition of the word "budget", along with all the other words they had to change the definition for that identify their fraudulent ideologies.

And that is just mind boggling....wth kind of world do these poli-"kids" live in anyway...lalaland?

The last time the Senate passed a budget was on April 29, 2009.
Since that date, the federal government has spent $9.4 trillion, adding $4.1 trillion in debt.
As of January 20, the outstanding public debt stands at $15,240,174,635,409.
Interest payments on the debt are now more than $200 billion per year.
President Obama proposed a FY2012 budget last year, and the Senate voted it down 97–0.(And that budget was no prize—according to the Congressional Budget Office, that proposal never had an annual deficit of less than $748 billion, would double the national debt in 10 years and would see annual interest payments approach $1 trillion per year.)
The Senate rejected House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s (R–WI) budget by 57–40 in May 2011, with no Democrats voting for it.
In FY2011, Washington spent $3.6 trillion. Compare that to the last time the budget was balanced in 2001, when Washington spent $1.8 trillion ($2.1 trillion when you adjust for inflation).
Entitlement spending will more than double by 2050. That includes spending on Medicare, Medicaid and the Obamacare subsidy program, and Social Security. Total spending on federal health care programs will triple.
By 2050, the national debt is set to hit 344 percent of Gross Domestic Product.
****** Taxes paid per household have risen dramatically, hitting $18,400 in 2010 (compared with $11,295 in 1965). If the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire and more middle-class Americans are required to pay the alternative minimum tax (AMT), taxes will reach unprecedented levels.
Federal spending per household is skyrocketing. Since 1965, spending per household has grown by nearly 162 percent, from $11,431 in 1965 to $29,401 in 2010. From 2010 to 2021, it is projected to rise to $35,773, a 22 percent increase.

[killtaker]

RealDave wrote:

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If they go with the NRA plan, you'll make the list of those too stupid to own guns.
I never said ban all guns, Dumbass.
Obama never said it.
So, who s saying it??? I mean besides you right whiners.
I have good health insurance & I pay into SS. My having those things don't kill people.

"WASHINGTON — Two days after the shooting deaths of 26 people at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school, Sen. Dianne Feinstein pledged Sunday that she would introduce new gun-control legislation at the beginning of next year’s congressional session.

“It [the bill] will ban the sale, the transfer, the transportation and the possession,” the California senator said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”“Not retroactively, but prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-fe...

"White House spokesman Jay Carney said Obama would support U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein's effort to craft legislation to reinstate an assault weapons ban..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/18/us-...

You are relying on Social Security and you call me stupid...

[Death of Tenzing]

DBWriter wrote:

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I have no idea what planet you live on. Here on Earth, what is considered fair is the same percentage paid. If a person makes x, they pay n percent of x. If a person makes y, they pay n percent of y.
If a person took advantage of the opportunities offered to every single person in the country, and chose to study something useful to the economy, and studied instead of hanging out with the bros all night, and got a job, and showed up for work every day ON TIME, and did what they were paid to do, and became a student of their profession, then that person would have a very good living standard, and that person would pay more taxes than a person who wasted every opportunity of their life and was a leech on the system.
If everyone had to pay their fair share of what the government they voted for costs, then I guarantee you they wouldn't be voting for a bunch of thieves and frauds flying a Marxist flag. And, we wouldn't have 16 trillion dollars of debt. And, we would have a goddam plan for government instead of the insanity we have now. If they had to pay for what they vote for, they'd vote for people that wouldn't cost them everything they have.
If you make only 10 thousand dollars a year, you owe a certain percentage of that in taxes. Period. End of statement.
No exceptions. No excuses.
Everybody pays their fair share of what the government costs.

Who did you vote for this year?

[Death of Tenzing]

DBWriter wrote:

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Very obviously, I didn't vote for the Marxist communists. I am a capitalist. And, I believe having a very, very credible ability to project force is directly proportional to the health of our economy. And, I believe the Constitution prevents the president from issuing edicts directly to the people.
I voted for the capitalist who believes in maintaining a strong military capability.
Other issues were secondary.
So, just who did I vote for?

Well, obviously you voted for Gary Johnson.

Good for you!

[Death of Tenzing]

DBWriter wrote:

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Revenue is not the problem. Spending is the problem.
Cut spending. After you cut spending, we'll start discussing revenue. First topic, half the population is paying all the income tax for the entire population. What is your proposal to increase the number of people paying taxes?

Neither of your parties will cut spending leaving revenue as the only answer.

[killtaker]

What you can see from space...

The Eagle Ford Shale Boom...

"The shale was first tapped in 2008 and now has around 20 active fields good producing over 900 million cubic feet per day of natural gas. For perspective, the United States produced over 2 trillion cubic feet of gas in September 2012."

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-i...

[OzRitz]

DBWriter wrote:

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If you make only 10 thousand dollars a year, you owe a certain percentage of that in taxes. Period. End of statement.
No exceptions. No excuses.
Everybody pays their fair share of what the government costs.

I agree, but that's NOT what your elected Republicans are doing, In simple terms they are quite happy for the 2-3%'rs to pay 12%-14% of their income on average of tax collectwhile those in the middle are paying 30% or more. That's DOUBLE, yet that is what Obama wants to restore, get that balance back to where it should be.

You can rant on about the freeloaders day in day out, it doesn't change a f...g thing. If you want services then you need to get more ppl earning a better income that is spread out over a greater percentage of the population, not a small percentage that keeps shrinking every 5 yrs. That is Capitalism at is worst and destined for a complete failure, because that is WHY you have high tax rates on high incomes. To keep a balance between having an economy that thrives or self implodes. Every country practicing this policy is in the top 10 of growth rates RIGHT NOW, including those pesky Canadians to the north.

[killtaker]

Liberals in Washington...

"In a town that has more people per square mile talking about income inequality than probably any other -- you also find really striking examples of, well, income inequality."

Yippee!

"Reuters notes: "Today there are 320,000 federal jobs in the Washington area. Within the District of Columbia, 55% pay $100,000 or more."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2012/12...

[killtaker]

Liberals...

"If you believe in evolution, but hold that all cultures are equal - you might be a liberal

If you're an "advocate" for the poor who uses "trailer trash" as an insult - you might be a Liberal

If you reject absolute moral concepts like "right" and "wrong", but believe George W. Bush is "evil" - you might be a liberal.

If you believe it should be illegal to smoke in your vehicle, but support legalized marijuana - you might be a liberal."

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/secondarypage...

[killtaker]

OzRitz wrote:

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I agree, but that's NOT what your elected Republicans are doing, In simple terms they are quite happy for the 2-3%'rs to pay 12%-14% of their income on average of tax collectwhile those in the middle are paying 30% or more. That's DOUBLE, yet that is what Obama wants to restore, get that balance back to where it should be.
You can rant on about the freeloaders day in day out, it doesn't change a f...g thing. If you want services then you need to get more ppl earning a better income that is spread out over a greater percentage of the population, not a small percentage that keeps shrinking every 5 yrs. That is Capitalism at is worst and destined for a complete failure, because that is WHY you have high tax rates on high incomes. To keep a balance between having an economy that thrives or self implodes. Every country practicing this policy is in the top 10 of growth rates RIGHT NOW, including those pesky Canadians to the north.

What are you smoking...

"CBO calculations found that the vast majority of Americans paid less than 15% of their incomes in federal taxes."

BRACKET-Average effective tax rate (federal and payroll)

Lowest quintile-1.0%
Second quintile-6.80%
middle quintile-11.10%
fourth quintile-15.10%
highest quintile-23.20%

Source-CBO

http://money.msn.com/tax-planning/whats-your-...

[Waxturd]

killtaker wrote:

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What are you smoking...
"CBO calculations found that the vast majority of Americans paid less than 15% of their incomes in federal taxes."
BRACKET-Average effective tax rate (federal and payroll)
Lowest quintile-1.0%
Second quintile-6.80%
middle quintile-11.10%
fourth quintile-15.10%
highest quintile-23.20%
Source-CBO
http://money.msn.com/tax-planning/whats-your-...

Cut and paste, cut and paste, cut and paste, all to make insignificant negative points. On November 6 America told the Republican party to shut up and quit whining. So SFU and get out of the way while Democrats continue to clean up your mess.

[shinningelectr0n]

THE DEBIL wrote:

YOU KNOW WHAT THE COOL THING IS ABOUT WORKIN' IN TOPIX? ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS SUGGEST AN' OUTCOME AN' THE PEOPLE MAKE IT HAPPEN. THIS THREAD IS ALL SPIT AN' COME NOW, AN' DEBIL JUS' LOVE IT. ONLY ONE STEP FURTHER TO GET TO PURE VICIOUS HATRED.

If your head were to be turned inside-out, you'd look like a Sh*t Lollipop.