Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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<quoted text>"call for a good time..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Oh, and here's what Jess would do..........

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youtube.com/watch... ……Gung-Ho Obama squatter was elected Tax Raise?

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“I believe in the Second Amendment. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away… But I am not going to take your guns away. So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one because it just ain’t true. It ain’t true.”
-Barack Obama in 2008
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He's kept that promise, what's your point?

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There were four major economic systems in practice during the 20th Century: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, and Capitalism. Can anyone tell me which of these were concordant with the US Constitution and why?
its Socialism because the US Constitution allows the Federal Government to get involved in economical activity which the US Constitution grants that authority through the use of Article 1 Section 8 Clause 1 the Taxing Power which Capitalism rejects and is the very first power given to Congress by the US Constitution, the power to tax. Money is power, and in the governmental structure created by the US Constitution, Congress—not the president—controls the money.

Article 1, Section 8

Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

The very first power given to Congress by the Constitution is the power to tax. Money is power, and in the governmental structure created by the Constitution, Congress—not the president—controls the money. Congress also has the power to levy tariffs (taxes on imported goods) but it's not allowed to charge more for imports into one state than into another. The Framers of the Constitution probably put the tax power first on the list of Congress's enumerated powers because they were acutely aware that one of the biggest problems of the old Articles of Confederation was that its version of Congress did not have the power to tax, and thus didn't have the power to do much of anything at all.

http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...
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When did Obama try this?
When he spent 2 years drafting HIS Health Care Plan and cut the Republicans and their input totally out of the process?
When he stated The Republicans can come along but they have to ride in the back of the bus?
When he spent his whole presidency villianizing Republicans?
When he's continued to blame Republicans, STILL blaming President Bush for his repeated and continued failures?
When his minions, from The Labor Unions to his Eric Holder have done nothing but demonized Republicans?
He hasn't tried jack shyte regarding reaching across the isle of partisanship to work with Republicans.
He's so scared sightless of Rush Limbaugh ...
That's why there's a Topix thread that bears the title:
"Barack Obama to GOP Dump Rush Limbaugh".
He's just a little man who fears and perceive all who oppose him as his enemy to be silenced.
HA! He's just a scared sissy a$$.
Afraid of a Republican talk show host.
He needs some saddle shoes to go with his Mom jeans, the big baby!
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Yeah moron, when the other side is only interested in obstructing the process then they get cut out of it. The Republicans did the same thing to the Democrats when they were in power. The reason it's called "Politics" is "F*ck you" was already taken.
Obama never said they had to ride in the "back of the bus" liar, here's the actual statement;
"Finally we got this car up on level ground. And, yes, it's a little beat up. It needs to go to the body shop. It's got some dents; it needs a tune-up. But it's pointing in the right direction. And now we've got the Republicans tapping us on the shoulder, saying, we want the keys back.
You can't have the keys back. You don't know how to drive. You can ride with us if you want, but you got to sit in the backseat. We're going to put middle-class America in the front seat. We're looking out for them. "
Sure imbecile he's really been a failure, GDP went from the crapper to positive growth, the Dow went from around 6500 to 13,000, We've had private sector job growth and the housing market is on the rebound.
He has reached across to the GOP and gotten his hand bit every time.
Afraid of Rush Limbaugh? Who would be afraid of that morbidly obese lying drug addict? The only ones that put any credence in anything he says are ignorant fools like you. He makes a hell of a lot of money pandering to idiots like you.
The GOP has been demonizing Obama since he was elected and he's managed to put the economy on the right track in spite of the roadblocks the extreme right has put in his path.

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<quoted text>its Socialism because the US Constitution allows the Federal Government to get involved in economical activity which the US Constitution grants that authority through the use of Article 1 Section 8 Clause 1 the Taxing Power which Capitalism rejects and is the very first power given to Congress by the US Constitution, the power to tax. Money is power, and in the governmental structure created by the US Constitution, Congress—not the president—controls the money.
Article 1, Section 8
Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The very first power given to Congress by the Constitution is the power to tax. Money is power, and in the governmental structure created by the Constitution, Congress—not the president—controls the money. Congress also has the power to levy tariffs (taxes on imported goods) but it's not allowed to charge more for imports into one state than into another. The Framers of the Constitution probably put the tax power first on the list of Congress's enumerated powers because they were acutely aware that one of the biggest problems of the old Articles of Confederation was that its version of Congress did not have the power to tax, and thus didn't have the power to do much of anything at all.
http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...
Well, gee. It's worked so far, hannit?

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<quoted text>Well, gee. It's worked so far, hannit?
17 Trillion Dollars in debt, cant really say its worked so far when the US has to keep going deeper & deeper in debt.
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Agree we need to cut all of the funding in defense for Nations you stated. Programs?
-The Solyndra Failure a'ringin' a bell?
*The closed facilities of Solyndra LLC, the solar-panel manufacturer that went bankrupt after receiving a $535 million federal government funding.
-Research Projects leading no where or to no avail, such as
"How to Lower Carbon Emissions from Cows" !... Just for starters. So many to name. And most if not all have already been.
But cutting Defense for Our Military would not be my first choice.
Nor should it be THIS Administrations.
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Hey stupid! Solyndra was part of a program started under the Bush administration.
Cow farts contain a lot of methane which is a greenhouse gas.

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You didn't answer, cowardly blowhard. Where's the trillion dollars coming from? Obama's ass?
Just like with the Republicans its coming from our children and their children. I'm sorry you're Party is such an embarrassment but that's your problem.
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Has anyone enver called you a simpleton, or has it happened so often you just tune it out? If I need someone to comment that has no clue about the compexity and far reaching effects of that legislation, I'll be sure to ask you.
Like I'd really give a rat's patootie. Once again you've demonstrated your lack of ability to come up with any kind of counter argument.

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<quoted text>its Socialism because the US Constitution allows the Federal Government to get involved in economical activity which the US Constitution grants that authority through the use of Article 1 Section 8 Clause 1 the Taxing Power which Capitalism rejects and is the very first power given to Congress by the US Constitution, the power to tax. Money is power, and in the governmental structure created by the US Constitution, Congress—not the president—controls the money.
Article 1, Section 8
Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The very first power given to Congress by the Constitution is the power to tax. Money is power, and in the governmental structure created by the Constitution, Congress—not the president—controls the money. Congress also has the power to levy tariffs (taxes on imported goods) but it's not allowed to charge more for imports into one state than into another. The Framers of the Constitution probably put the tax power first on the list of Congress's enumerated powers because they were acutely aware that one of the biggest problems of the old Articles of Confederation was that its version of Congress did not have the power to tax, and thus didn't have the power to do much of anything at all.
http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...
That's absurd, you know nothing about economics.

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That's absurd, you know nothing about economics.
sure do, no where in the world will you find Capitalism being practiced.

In this article, you'll explore capitalism: its roots, principles and effects, benefits and shortcomings. We'll find out how capitalism compares to the alternative method of doing business. Incidentally, the United States doesn't actually practice capitalism. No one does these days.

How Capitalism Works

http://money.howstuffworks.com/capitalism.htm

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<quoted text>sure do, no where in the world will you find Capitalism being practiced.
In this article, you'll explore capitalism: its roots, principles and effects, benefits and shortcomings. We'll find out how capitalism compares to the alternative method of doing business. Incidentally, the United States doesn't actually practice capitalism. No one does these days.
How Capitalism Works
http://money.howstuffworks.com/capitalism.htm
I don't need the lesson but thanks anyway. I didn't say we currently practiced capitalism, the last time we saw anything really resembling capitalism was during the westward expansion but that doesn't mean the Constitution and/or taxation precludes capitalism.

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That's absurd, you know nothing about economics.
Article 1 Section 8 Clause 3 & and the Sherman Anti Trust Act are example of Socialism which is alive and well in the United States and is proof of that the US is Anti-Capitalism which Clause 3 of the US Constitution and the Sherman Anti Trust Act allow the Federal Government to get involved economically in the US economy and Monopolies are inherit to Capitalism.

Sherman Antitrust Act

The Sherman Antitrust Act (Sherman Act, July 2, 1890, ch. 647, 26 Stat. 209, 15 U.S.C.§§ 1–7) is a landmark federal statute on competition law passed by Congress in 1890. It prohibits certain business activities that reduce competition in the marketplace, and requires the United States federal government to investigate and pursue trusts, companies, and organizations suspected of being in violation. It was the first Federal statute to limit cartels and monopolies, and today still forms the basis for most antitrust litigation by the United States federal government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrus...

Article 1, Section 8

Clause 3. To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Congress has the power to impose regulations on interstate and international business. This "interstate commerce clause" has been quite controversial in the history of constitutional law; for a long time, judges tended to read the clause narrowly, overturning federal laws they deemed focused mainly on regulating economic activity within states rather than between them. Since the 1930s, however, judges have tended to read the clause broadly, allowing the government to regulate all kinds of economic activity—by setting a national minimum wage, for example.

http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...

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I don't need the lesson but thanks anyway. I didn't say we currently practiced capitalism, the last time we saw anything really resembling capitalism was during the westward expansion but that doesn't mean the Constitution and/or taxation precludes capitalism.
Right, Lincoln & the Republicans(Party of Lincoln) had no use for Capitalism.

An Unfinished Revolution: Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln

by Robin Blackburn

The impact of the American Civil War on Karl Marx, and Karl Marx on America.

Karl Marx and Abraham Lincoln exchanged letters at the end of the Civil War. Although they were divided by far more than the Atlantic Ocean, they agreed on the cause of “free labor” and the urgent need to end slavery. In his introduction, Robin Blackburn argues that Lincoln’s response signaled the importance of the German American community and the role of the international communists in opposing European recognition of the Confederacy.

The ideals of communism, voiced through the International Working Men’s Association, attracted many thousands of supporters throughout the US, and helped spread the demand for an eight-hour day. Blackburn shows how the IWA in America—born out of the Civil War—sought to radicalize Lincoln’s unfinished revolution and to advance the rights of labor, uniting black and white, men and women, native and foreign-born. The International contributed to a profound critique of the capitalist robber barons who enriched themselves during and after the war, and it inspired an extraordinary series of strikes and class struggles in the postwar decades.

In addition to a range of key texts and letters by both Lincoln and Marx, this book includes articles from the radical New York-based journal Woodhull and Claflin’s Weekly, an extract from Thomas Fortune’s classic work on racism Black and White, Frederick Engels on the progress of US labor in the 1880s, and Lucy Parson’s speech at the founding of the Industrial Workers of the World.

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I don't need the lesson but thanks anyway. I didn't say we currently practiced capitalism, the last time we saw anything really resembling capitalism was during the westward expansion but that doesn't mean the Constitution and/or taxation precludes capitalism.
Problem with Capitalism is it only works for about 250 years. At the end of it all you have is the Elites and the Peasants class.
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<quoted text>Problem with Capitalism is it only works for about 250 years. At the end of it all you have is the Elites and the Peasants class.
So true..as long as the rich people pay good wages and fair share of taxes capitalism works great...But like now all we have is VULTURE capitalism and rich people off shoring money and jobs...Then capitalism falls apart.

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<quoted text>Article 1 Section 8 Clause 3 & and the Sherman Anti Trust Act are example of Socialism which is alive and well in the United States and is proof of that the US is Anti-Capitalism which Clause 3 of the US Constitution and the Sherman Anti Trust Act allow the Federal Government to get involved economically in the US economy and Monopolies are inherit to Capitalism.
Sherman Antitrust Act
The Sherman Antitrust Act (Sherman Act, July 2, 1890, ch. 647, 26 Stat. 209, 15 U.S.C.§§ 1–7) is a landmark federal statute on competition law passed by Congress in 1890. It prohibits certain business activities that reduce competition in the marketplace, and requires the United States federal government to investigate and pursue trusts, companies, and organizations suspected of being in violation. It was the first Federal statute to limit cartels and monopolies, and today still forms the basis for most antitrust litigation by the United States federal government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrus...
Article 1, Section 8
Clause 3. To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
Congress has the power to impose regulations on interstate and international business. This "interstate commerce clause" has been quite controversial in the history of constitutional law; for a long time, judges tended to read the clause narrowly, overturning federal laws they deemed focused mainly on regulating economic activity within states rather than between them. Since the 1930s, however, judges have tended to read the clause broadly, allowing the government to regulate all kinds of economic activity—by setting a national minimum wage, for example.
http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...
Which is not in the Constitution, stay on point if you want any credibility.

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