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#830855 Dec 30, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Here's what you said son...
"I can tell you why, the Constitution defines the government and does not dictate a particular economic system but capitalism is heavily implied. Can you think of any other economic system that is compatible with the Constitution? I can't."
There was NO question. Just a statement on your part. An incorrect one, I might add.
I know what I said and neither you nor Anonymous have refuted it. Nowhere in the Constitution will you find authority granted to the government to control the means of production save the post office and post roads and in that it does not even grant exclusive authority.

“I'm here with bells on.”

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#830856 Dec 30, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
I should have included the next part in the WSJ article from three years ago.
"Fast forward to this year (and 2010) when the Wall Street meltdown and recession are going to mean far few taxpayers earning more than $500,000. Profits are plunging, businesses are cutting or eliminating dividends, hedge funds are rolling up, and, most of all, capital nationwide is on strike. Raising taxes now will thus yield far less revenue than it would have in 2006."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1235615510653...
You still come up with taxing the 2% is an illusion.
What you 'should have included,' carol, is 30 minutes of A. A. Milne.

Lincoln

United States

#830858 Dec 30, 2012
Republican House gets the blame for taxing 98 percent of Americans on Jan 1.

Added to reputation for nominating two Senate Rape candidates.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#830859 Dec 30, 2012
The worst year in Washington: The tea party

The Gadsden flag, which flew proudly over the 2010 midterm elections, now lies in tatters — rent by internal disagreements, losses among its most visible standard-bearers and a growing sense that the tea party movement, which once looked like it could transform American politics, will soon be nothing more than a blip in the country’s collective memory.

The movement’s journey from boom to bust is the story of American politics writ large. The tea party’s ups and downs (in 2012, mostly downs) highlight some of the key forces shaping today’s battles — from the fissures that threaten to destroy the Republican Party to the perils of a leaderless or multi-leader effort to the difference between proving a point and winning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-wo...

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#830860 Dec 30, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, time to set the record straight once and for all.
When most people hear the words,“tax hike”, they naturally assume you mean raising income taxes. But tax rates dropped dramatically across-the-board during Reagan’s tenure.
Not only did the top individual income tax rate go from 70 to 28 percent but the tax code was also indexed for inflation.
Tax increases are not created equal. Some are much worse than others. Many of Reagan’s so-called “tax increases” were actually examples of ending deductions.
One of the tax increases Reagan signed - the Highway Revenue Act of 1982 - was a temporary increase in the federal gas tax from 4 to 9 cents. Another was a cigarette tax - Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985. These are real tax increases but should not be confused with the income tax.
Criticism from free marketers on the right was his raising the capital gains tax rate as well as the corporate rate — Tax Reform Act of 1986. These were real tax increases and, in some cases,“regressive” taxation, but they pale in comparison to the scale of the income tax cuts that defined the Reagan era.
Congressional Democrats promised Reagan, "We’ll cut spending if you raise taxes.”
Reagan was offered such a deal in 1982. It’s the reason he reluctantly agreed to the largest tax increase of his presidency - the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982.
The Democratic Congress then promptly proceeded to ignore the planned spending cuts.
Of course.
... and consequently the debt had QUADRUPLED by GHW Bush's term. Y'all want too much government for such low taxes. I think income taxes are stupid but then again, so is the electorate. The theft you're perpetrating on future generations is unconscionable, you want everything but you refuse to pay for it. Do you go steal money out of your daughter's savings?

Yes, you do.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#830861 Dec 30, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
I should have included the next part in the WSJ article from three years ago.
"Fast forward to this year (and 2010) when the Wall Street meltdown and recession are going to mean far few taxpayers earning more than $500,000. Profits are plunging, businesses are cutting or eliminating dividends, hedge funds are rolling up, and, most of all, capital nationwide is on strike. Raising taxes now will thus yield far less revenue than it would have in 2006."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1235615510653...
You still come up with taxing the 2% is an illusion.
lol! You're comparing what the article is discussing three years ago to NOW?

It's interesting that you took an article that was less than two weeks after he took office to make your case.

You clearly have forgotten the previous 6 months and most certainly, the previous 8 years of bushie's "economic boom" that cons like to spout!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#830863 Dec 30, 2012
Best year in Washington: Nate Silver

Republicans reacted with outrage as Silver’s model kept pumping out predictions that Obama had an 80 percent (or higher) chance of winning. A columnist for the Examiner chain critiqued Silver’s appearance and voice. Others questioned how anyone could predict to the percentage point the likelihood of Obama winning or losing. Even the mighty David Brooks — himself a columnist for the Gray Lady — scoffed at the idea of making calculations accurate to the decimal point:“If there’s one thing we know, it’s that even experts with fancy computer models are terrible at predicting human behavior.”

The net effect was that Silver — a shy guy by nature — turned into a political football. He became a household name nationwide and, by some reports, accounted for 20 percentor more of the Times’ overall Web traffic as the election approached.

If Silver was big before the election, he turned huge — like Jay-Z/Beyonce huge — after it. Jon Stewart called him the “God of the algorithm.” President Obama referenced Silver when talking about the annual turkey pardon. Silver was named Out Magazine’s person of the year. He even sat down with Fix hero Bill Simmons (a.k.a. the Sports Guy) for an hour-long podcast.(And, yes, we are VERY jealous.)

For Nate Silver — and political nerds, statisticians and number-crunchers everywhere — it was a very good year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/best-y...

Maybe FOX should hire Nate.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#830864 Dec 30, 2012
Lincoln wrote:
Republican House gets the blame for taxing 98 percent of Americans on Jan 1.
Added to reputation for nominating two Senate Rape candidates.
And that's because they cheered this as a "victory" last year to score political points with the tea-p idiots.

Now the dummies have to reap what they sowed.

Since: Aug 11

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#830865 Dec 30, 2012
Death of Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
You got your lesson from an English major and it shows.
Go ahead, look up the HowTo article's author's credentials.
Obvisously you are still in denial of facts when presented and I know that article is correct about Capitalism.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#830866 Dec 30, 2012
Obama to GOP: Last chance

The key word there is “majorities.” Obama is demanding that Mitch McConnell allow a straight up-or-down vote on Harry Reid’s fallback proposal, if the two sides cannot reach a deal. If no deal is reached, Obama is daring McConnell to filibuster a continued tax cut for the middle class and daring Boehner not to hold a vote on it.

A senior Senate Dem aide tells me that the fallback proposal Reid is working on would extend tax cuts on income just up to $250,000, not up to $400,000, as Obama’s most recent compromise proposal did. What this means is that if Senate Republican leaders fail to agree with Senate Dems on a proposal, the fallback plan Reid will offer will essentially rescind Obama’s offer to raise the income threshold to $400,000.

It’s possible, as many commentators are speculating, that today’s machinations mean Reid and McConnell really may reach a deal. But if not, by daring Republicans one last time to refuse to allow simple majority votes on extending the middle class tax cuts, Obama is signaling that if we do go over the cliff, he intends to extract maximum political pain for it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line...

as well he should. he's just playing the game that the republicans started, and there's no good reason why he can't play the same way they do.
Lincoln

United States

#830867 Dec 30, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, time to set the record straight once and for all.
When most people hear the words,“tax hike”, they naturally assume you mean raising income taxes. But tax rates dropped dramatically across-the-board during Reagan’s tenure.
Not only did the top individual income tax rate go from 70 to 28 percent but the tax code was also indexed for inflation.
Tax increases are not created equal. Some are much worse than others. Many of Reagan’s so-called “tax increases” were actually examples of ending deductions.
One of the tax increases Reagan signed - the Highway Revenue Act of 1982 - was a temporary increase in the federal gas tax from 4 to 9 cents. Another was a cigarette tax - Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985. These are real tax increases but should not be confused with the income tax.
Criticism from free marketers on the right was his raising the capital gains tax rate as well as the corporate rate — Tax Reform Act of 1986. These were real tax increases and, in some cases,“regressive” taxation, but they pale in comparison to the scale of the income tax cuts that defined the Reagan era.
Congressional Democrats promised Reagan, "We’ll cut spending if you raise taxes.”
Reagan was offered such a deal in 1982. It’s the reason he reluctantly agreed to the largest tax increase of his presidency - the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982.
The Democratic Congress then promptly proceeded to ignore the planned spending cuts.
Of course.
another yarn...l

Problems is not with the President of the US, the only official elected by all the people.

President Barack Obama made a final pitch to Congress to act on the fiscal cliff on Sunday, citing Republican intransigence as Senate leaders struggled to bash out a last-minute deal.

Republicans going to tax the 98%
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#830868 Dec 30, 2012
Death of Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what I said and neither you nor Anonymous have refuted it. Nowhere in the Constitution will you find authority granted to the government to control the means of production save the post office and post roads and in that it does not even grant exclusive authority.
No one can refute your opinions. The fact of the matter is the US is not a true capitalistic society.

Again, don't confuse political philosophy with an economic one.

As for the Post Office, the government is really in an advisory role. The PO has been for a while now, a profit organization.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#830870 Dec 30, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! You're comparing what the article is discussing three years ago to NOW?
It's interesting that you took an article that was less than two weeks after he took office to make your case.
You clearly have forgotten the previous 6 months and most certainly, the previous 8 years of bushie's "economic boom" that cons like to spout!
but but but, 2007! Dems! Congress!

it's like the economy was great before 2007 or something.

“I'm here with bells on.”

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#830871 Dec 30, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Obvisously you are still in denial of facts when presented and I know that article is correct about Capitalism.
And we lament the 'me' generation..........

Wah.

Since: Aug 11

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#830873 Dec 30, 2012
Death of Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what I said and neither you nor Anonymous have refuted it. Nowhere in the Constitution will you find authority granted to the government to control the means of production save the post office and post roads and in that it does not even grant exclusive authority.
the Hell or you would understand by now, Clause 3, or the Commerce Clause and what the Commerce Clause states and how the Federal Government can regulate Interstate Commerce because of the US Constitution but you must not understand interstate commerce.

interstate commerce - The buying and selling of products and services across state borders.

http://www.investorwords.com/2574/interstate_...

Article 1 Section 8

Clause 3. To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Congress has the power to impose regulations on interstate and international business. This "interstate commerce clause" has been quite controversial in the history of constitutional law; for a long time, judges tended to read the clause narrowly, overturning federal laws they deemed focused mainly on regulating economic activity within states rather than between them. Since the 1930s, however, judges have tended to read the clause broadly, allowing the government to regulate all kinds of economic activity—by setting a national minimum wage, for example.

http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...

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#830874 Dec 30, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Who controlled the purse strings for six years prior to 2000?
How come you guys never think of that?
What's really interesting is what happened over the NEXT six years when you gave 'em a Republican President. THAT's when it all went to sh it.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#830875 Dec 30, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
but but but, 2007! Dems! Congress!
it's like the economy was great before 2007 or something.
lol! I know! As the argument goes, everything was going well and hunky dory until non cons took over the House in 2006 and everything went downhill from there until the near great recession of 2008

Fast forward to 2012 and the Cons have the House again over the past two years and we're still in an economic slump. Worse still the cons don't want to help recover and instead, are NOW sticking to a radical political philosophy.

So really, according to their logic, it's people like Boehner who are the problem!

Since: Dec 12

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#830876 Dec 30, 2012
RED BANNER OVER BUMFK wrote:
<quoted text>
WOULD YOU PLEASE HURRY UP AND PULL THOSE PANTIES DOWN. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO DEBIL (DEATH), BUT IF YOU INSIST ON FASTIDIOUSNESS OVER COMFORT ...
/j
(Those sunglasses have got to go. They make you look like some kind of supercilious, bloodless little Stepford husband. Or a beetle. Or an alien. Do you wear them so that Earthlings can't see your red-tinged eyes. Anyway, quit trying to appear human. It ain't working ...)
I wear them so aliens can't steal my thoughts.

Since: Aug 11

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#830877 Dec 30, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>No one can refute your opinions. The fact of the matter is the US is not a true capitalistic society.
Again, don't confuse political philosophy with an economic one.
As for the Post Office, the government is really in an advisory role. The PO has been for a while now, a profit organization.
Exactly, and US Constitution doesnt allow & rejects a Society based on True Capitalism even Thomas Jefferson rejected & feared a Capitalistic Society and the Term Capitalism had not been invented yet and was invented & termed by Karl Marxs(1818–1883).

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Thomas Jefferson,(Attributed)
3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/37700.htm...

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#830878 Dec 30, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Tenzing, is that you? You don't have a death wish now, do you?
What crap did I demand? Or, rather, conservatives demand that liberals didn't demand more of?
Just in the last decade you demanded two wars, increased spending on education, Medicare expansion, more Executive agencies ...

And you still refuse to pay for ANY of it.

Bi tch!

No, don't have a death wish. Wanted to kill off Tenzing with a transition for continuity.

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