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Since: Dec 10

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#828994 Dec 26, 2012
John Galt wrote:
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Very few people of the type that you describe would jeopardize their lives and careers by engaging in any illegal activity, most specifically selling drugs. It's just not worth the risk.
If drugs are legalized, they will be licensed and regulated and heavily taxed and Walmart or CVS will become the primary outlet. Personal sales will still be illegal, enforced more than ever, because the government will want the revenue. Just like moonshining is still illegal.
What a curiously sheltered life you must lead.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#828995 Dec 26, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Some people have use the Treaty of Tripoli as an explanation that America isn't a Christian nation. President Obama Bombed Tripoli, helped kill the Bey of Tripoli and abrogated that treaty.
America has ALWAYS been a Christian nation.
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Treaty of Tripoli was abrogated eons ago!
But you are on the RIGHT track :)

The treaty was broken in 1801 by the Pasha of Tripoli over President Thomas Jefferson's refusal to submit to the Pasha's demands for increased payments. In the course of negotiating with the Barbary nations, each of the Barbary rulers continuously demanded increased payments to maintain peace, even while occasionally capturing U.S. ships. The Pasha of Tripoli was jealous of the ships the U.S. had recently given to Algeria, and demanded similar payment be made to him. On September 25, 1800, Tripoli captured the U.S. ship, Catherine, robbed the crew and plundered its cargo. The Pasha said this was a mistake and the captain responsible for the capture had been punished. Even so, the Pasha warned Cathcart that either the U.S. send additional payments, or the Pasha would declare war on U.S. vessels within six months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripol...

"America has ALWAYS been a Christian nation." said Brian_G

Since George Washington first added “so help me God” to his inaugural oath, every president since has likewise asked for God’s assistance at his inauguration.

http://morallaw.org/resources/america-acknowl...

New Eidsmoe Book: Historical and Theological Foundations of Law
Thomas Jefferson was looking back upon history when he said,“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground,” but he might as well have been looking forward to modern America. So-called progressives assure us that a more perfect Union is brought about by greater, ever-expanding government, while leading us to deeper enthrallment and dependency. The Founders knew better, however, insisting that the federal government be one of only limited, delegated power, with the remainder to reside in the states and the people. The “natural progress” of declining liberty would be bound down by the chains of the Constitution.
This regressive “progress” of usurping government power was obvious to students of world history like Thomas Jefferson and his colleagues. But what of the modern statesman, judge, or citizen? Well, he would do well to learn from the magnificent new work by the Foundation for Moral Law’s own Col. John Eidsmoe, Historical and Theological Foundations of Law,...

http://morallaw.org/
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#828996 Dec 26, 2012
John Galt wrote:
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Let me say for once and for all, my knowledgeable friend, that I don't give a crap about Florida or Florida laws.
Why are rightwingers so opposed to states rights?
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#828997 Dec 26, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Does the rest of the country get any benefit at all from these states or are they basically just a drain on the nation?
they're supporting the gun industry. a drain on living people, but they are paying sales tax.[?]
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#828998 Dec 26, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Some people have use the Treaty of Tripoli as an explanation that America isn't a Christian nation. President Obama Bombed Tripoli, helped kill the Bey of Tripoli and abrogated that treaty.
America has ALWAYS been a Christian nation.
==========
Treaty of Tripoli was abrogated eons ago!
But you are on the RIGHT track :)
The treaty was broken in 1801 by the Pasha of Tripoli over President Thomas Jefferson's refusal to submit to the Pasha's demands for increased payments. In the course of negotiating with the Barbary nations, each of the Barbary rulers continuously demanded increased payments to maintain peace, even while occasionally capturing U.S. ships. The Pasha of Tripoli was jealous of the ships the U.S. had recently given to Algeria, and demanded similar payment be made to him. On September 25, 1800, Tripoli captured the U.S. ship, Catherine, robbed the crew and plundered its cargo. The Pasha said this was a mistake and the captain responsible for the capture had been punished. Even so, the Pasha warned Cathcart that either the U.S. send additional payments, or the Pasha would declare war on U.S. vessels within six months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripol...
"America has ALWAYS been a Christian nation." said Brian_G
Since George Washington first added “so help me God” to his inaugural oath, every president since has likewise asked for God’s assistance at his inauguration.
http://morallaw.org/resources/america-acknowl...
New Eidsmoe Book: Historical and Theological Foundations of Law
Thomas Jefferson was looking back upon history when he said,“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground,” but he might as well have been looking forward to modern America. So-called progressives assure us that a more perfect Union is brought about by greater, ever-expanding government, while leading us to deeper enthrallment and dependency. The Founders knew better, however, insisting that the federal government be one of only limited, delegated power, with the remainder to reside in the states and the people. The “natural progress” of declining liberty would be bound down by the chains of the Constitution.
This regressive “progress” of usurping government power was obvious to students of world history like Thomas Jefferson and his colleagues. But what of the modern statesman, judge, or citizen? Well, he would do well to learn from the magnificent new work by the Foundation for Moral Law’s own Col. John Eidsmoe, Historical and Theological Foundations of Law,...
http://morallaw.org/
As a 'Christian' nation we sure do have a penchant for war. Maybe a change is in order? Just floating it out there. Plus I like the word penchant.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#829000 Dec 26, 2012
John Galt wrote:
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Definitely heavy on the racial stereotyping, given that many of the "red states", primarily in the South, are skewed demographically toward the black population.
Anti-black racism from black leftwingers is particularly unattractive.
are those rural blacks, or urban blacks?

or is there even a difference?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#829001 Dec 26, 2012
John Galt wrote:
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Let me say for once and for all, you stupid old mutt, that I don't give a crap about Florida or Florida laws.
Common law allows for the possibility of recovery for negligent damages caused by others, regardless of whether the actions were legal. In this case, if the newspaper could have reasonably understood that publication of names and addresses (particularly with an interactive map showing home locations) would result in damages, there might be grounds for a lawsuit.
Now, let's move on to Obama's plan to destroy American society, beginning with destruction of the economy.
You're a moron, the newspaper didn't compile the list you stupid fk__you can go on with one of your other freakshow pals, I'm over your dumbazz on this subject.

On Obama__same way__so far he's stopped the nations economic bleeding and set the nation's and by proxy the planet's working class families on better path. Maybe you don't see, understand or appreciate the importance of what he's accomplished "against all odds" Carol doesn't either. Birds of a feather???
carol

Orlando, FL

#829004 Dec 26, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>As a 'Christian' nation we sure do have a penchant for war. Maybe a change is in order? Just floating it out there. Plus I like the word penchant.
A penchant for war all depends on if you're willing to roll over and play dead and allow something worse to take control of you and your life.

There are some really evil-minded people doing unthinkably evil things to a lot of innocent and vulnerable people in this world.

The question then becomes, do we allow more innocent and vulnerable people to suffer at the hands of those whose intent is pure evil and wait until it spreads over here or stop it wherever and whenever we can beforehand?

If someone is beating the tar out of your wife, for example, and threatening to come after your entire family next and then your neighbors, would you have a penchant to stop them using any means within your power then?

The only war where we really had no business being there is Vietnam. At least not to that extent. Nothing good came out of that war. At least South Koreans still have their freedom.

You would be hard-pressed to name any other war where it wasn't in the best interest of the country or protecting innocents in the world to intervene.

But I'm open to learning any you might have.
Jane Says

New York, NY

#829005 Dec 26, 2012
DEBIL HIS DOO wrote:
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Well, "Jane," I don't really live in Atmore, but whatever. I presently reside in a sh!thole that's crawling with the same kind of white trash you represent. You see, money changes nothing -- never has. Trash is trash. The more the white trash can manage to steal, the more they can spend on cheap chinee trash. And so it goes. Take Lindsay Lohan, for example -- or as her friends call her, "fire crotch." They're about to confiscate all her worldly possessions from a storage area because she owes $16,000 on it. Oh, and she's getting thrown out of her 8,000 a month (or maybe it's more) rental house, just like some poor, toothless inbred Alabaman on crack. I bet that makes you slaver at your slack lips, don't it Jane? It's like imagining her curled up in the gutter with running sores, with cops surreptitiously taking a piss on her huh?
Anyways, back to you and me: I know you're referring to people you identify with when you speak of those who spend more on sneakers than a po' black or white does on groceries for 2 weeks. Me? I can't go out and walk my land without wondering if I'm going to take one to the head because some toothless slacker is trying to wipe out whatever is left of the wildlife for the great sin of tasting good. But never you mind, "Jane," they're all gonna be food theyselves soon. I'm moving to a relatively well-to-do coastal area on the southern Oregon coast (a scenic destination in itself), or at least that's my plan. In spite of what Debil might say, you gotta live like Death ain't breathing down your neck every second. I'm even planning to buy a ki-yak, because who knew how much fun rowing is. You learn something new every day until you're dead, unless you're a republican.
well SFBs, the "po blacks" SPEND MORE ON SNEAKERS THAN YOU DO ON HOUSING. and sure you're moving to Oregon, probably in a video game. I think your Mom just hollered down the basement stairs, so you better go see what she wants before she switches off the breaker again.

Since: Aug 11

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#829006 Dec 26, 2012
BonerAlert wrote:
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The dibolical Democrats and the corrupt liberal media won't tell you this either:
"The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11969...
Violent crime in the UK (gun ban country)- FOUR times higher than in the U.S.
The socilistic and "progressive" policies bring about a worse country
Liberalism is a mental disorder....
Liberalism is a mental disorder....
Liberalism is a mental disorder....
Liberalism is a mental disorder....
Pseudo Liberalism is a disorder and the Bigots(moderen liberals) have distorted the meaning of Liberalism just like Lenin did with Communsim because Prior to the 20th century, classical liberalism was the dominant political philosophy in the United States. It was the political philosophy of Thomas Jefferson and the signers of the Declaration of Independence and it permeates the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and many other documents produced by the people who created the American system of government. Many of the emancipationists who opposed slavery were essentially classical liberals, as were the suffragettes, who fought for equal rights for women.

What Is Classical Liberalism?

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/what-is-classical-lib...

Classical liberalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_libera...

Since: Jul 11

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#829007 Dec 26, 2012
DEBIL HIS DOO wrote:
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.......... You learn something new every day until you're dead, unless you're a republican.
That's a great quote & it sums up the current republican movement perfectly. That should be used in the next campaign.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#829008 Dec 26, 2012
DBWriter wrote:
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Again you pretend to be ignorant of how government works. You may need to write this down:
The government works in accordance with how the Constitution states. That means, all spending has been approved by Congress.
So, please adjust your assessment to be concident with changes in Congress to reflect the real world.
Then, we'd be interested in reading what you have to say, dupe.
I get it. You're saying the debt & deficits in 2011 & 2012 are Boehner's & the Republican's fault.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#829009 Dec 26, 2012
Tenzing wrote:
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Who's is the last signature to go on a spending bill?
Who determines how much is spent, dufus.
If it's a no-brainer that any veto will be overriden, like when clinton vetoed the bills that gave us a surplus, then that last signature is just a formality. So....

Who determines how much is spent, dufus.
carol

Orlando, FL

#829010 Dec 26, 2012
Tenzing wrote:
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You listened too much to Newt's campaign speeches. He was only Speaker for four of those years with his last showing the only surplus of his tenure. Net spending also continued to increase apace with previous years throughout the Clinton era and the four surplus years so Newt's claims of cutting spending were bogus too. The guy can't open his mouth without a lie falling out.
Well, first of all, a surplus never even happened nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit.

So if Newt's claims are bogus, so are Clinton's.

According to this common sense conservative, Craig Steiner:

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

The deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of "only" $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero--let alone a positive surplus number. Clinton's last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

Keep in mind that President Bush took office in January 2001 and his first budget took effect October 1, 2001 for the year ending September 30, 2002 (FY2002). So the $133.29 billion deficit in the year ending September 2001 was Clinton's. Granted, Bush supported a tax refund where taxpayers received checks in 2001. However, the total amount refunded to taxpayers was only $38 billion. So even if we assume that $38 billion of the FY2001 deficit was due to Bush's tax refunds which were not part of Clinton's last budget, that still means that Clinton's last budget produced a deficit of 133.29 - 38 =$95.29 billion.

Clinton clearly did not achieve a surplus and he didn't leave President Bush with a surplus.

...I like common sense conservatives. I'd like common sense liberals too. Still hoping to meet one.

Since: Dec 10

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#829014 Dec 26, 2012
DBWriter wrote:
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Who determines how much is spent, dufus.
If it's a no-brainer that any veto will be overriden, like when clinton vetoed the bills that gave us a surplus, then that last signature is just a formality. So....
Who determines how much is spent, dufus.
How can one little guy be so full of crap?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#829015 Dec 26, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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I get it. You're saying the debt & deficits in 2011 & 2012 are Boehner's & the Republican's fault.
How about Harry Reid, dufus.
And, in case you haven't figured it out yet, Boehner is a Democrat. That's why the Democrats got everything they wanted the past 2 years, and the result is a fiscal cliff, which they plan to just pretend never happened and make everything retroactive to the beginning of the year... just as soon as the ruling elite return from Ha-wee-wee.
Get ready to rumble. Judging from what the Republicans did to the RINOs Plan B, looks like you guys are going to have to come up with a plan that doesn't rely on money growing on trees.
If you noticed, they creamed the farm bill because it was 80 percent welfare.
I don't think you're going to get anymore debt. That means you're going to have to get a f**k*ng job.)))))
And, we're going to start talking about revenue after we agree on a plan for government that doesn't require money growing on trees. You know, a budget, something we haven't seen since Obama took office, coincidentally.
Half the country paying all the income taxes for the entire country just isn't adequate. The number of people paying taxes is going to increase before there is any discussion on the rate the increased number of people paying taxes pay.
))))))
Looks like you're going to have to grow up and get a job.)))))
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#829016 Dec 26, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
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Proof that guns are way too easy to obtain in America.
Much tighter laws are needed.
We need a 'War on Guns'.
We need mo' war on entitleMENTALLY deranged thugs, that think they can just waltz in on anyone else's anything, and demand whatever they want.

Since: Dec 10

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#829017 Dec 26, 2012
carol wrote:
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Well, first of all, a surplus never even happened nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit.
So if Newt's claims are bogus, so are Clinton's.
According to this common sense conservative, Craig Steiner:
http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16
The deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of "only" $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero--let alone a positive surplus number. Clinton's last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.
Keep in mind that President Bush took office in January 2001 and his first budget took effect October 1, 2001 for the year ending September 30, 2002 (FY2002). So the $133.29 billion deficit in the year ending September 2001 was Clinton's. Granted, Bush supported a tax refund where taxpayers received checks in 2001. However, the total amount refunded to taxpayers was only $38 billion. So even if we assume that $38 billion of the FY2001 deficit was due to Bush's tax refunds which were not part of Clinton's last budget, that still means that Clinton's last budget produced a deficit of 133.29 - 38 =$95.29 billion.
Clinton clearly did not achieve a surplus and he didn't leave President Bush with a surplus.
...I like common sense conservatives. I'd like common sense liberals too. Still hoping to meet one.
I thought you only used quality sources? I know you've been over the OMB historical tables and seen the surplus yourself and you should never doubt that I will invoke them as is my habit so why would you bother dredging up some blog post? Who're you trying to fool?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#829018 Dec 26, 2012
Tenzing wrote:
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How can one little guy be so full of crap?
You forgot to answer the post. There's just one simple question:

Who determines how much is spent, dufus.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#829019 Dec 26, 2012
John Galt wrote:
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In that event, Galt would support a third party candidate for the first time.
Christie went from the top of my list to the bottom in one day.
Why? The guy's a good guy-genuine, hard working, no phake and phony there.

We need more like him, wiht some REAL flippin backbone -FOR the working class people-NOT against them.

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