Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
lilytard

Lynn, MA

#828774 Dec 26, 2012
Carol wrote:
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There is no 6 trillion deficit, you moron.
The budget deficit is currently LESS than when Obama took office.
Again, it would be great if you could jump on the reality train.
Your VP pick, Paul Ryan might disagree about the stimulus, seeing as how he pleaded for stimulus funds to spur economic growth in his district.
She didn't say there was a "6 trillion deficit" you fkn returd. Just love the way you libs can't read, fk up and then call the other person the returd, returd.

Do you know what the word "increasing" means, fkface?

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#828775 Dec 26, 2012
carol wrote:
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You mean fiscal responsibility...as in fighting an enemy who attacked us on our own shores with democrats on board?
what does that have to do with Iraq and Saddam?

and why did Bush let the man who did mastermind the 9/11 attacks escape capture/death at Tora Bora?
carol wrote:
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Or fiscal responsibility...as in funding bankrupt green energy companies and a stimulus that did nothing to help the recovery?
which stimulus package are you talking about Bush's or Obama's?

and since you obviously are not an economist, nor have any education in economic, your opinion on that matter is about as useful as tits on a bull
carol wrote:
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Is fiscal responsibility increasing the deficit by $1 trillion in the face of global economic disruption after the towers fell over a time span of eight years or $6 trillion in the face of a housing market collapse in less than four?
actually Geroge W Bush increased the national debt by nearly $6 TRILLION, from $5.5 to $11 trillion. Its now at about $14 trillion. since I now your math skills are also lacking, I'll do the math for you, that's an increase of $3 Trillion
carol wrote:
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I understand the gravity of the housing market collapse which both parties ignorned until it was too late. But if the economy recovered in two years after 9/11, why has the deficit continually increased in four years after the housing market collapse with an even weaker economy and facing another recession?
one the economy was fine in 2001, thanks to Bill Clinton and because of the severity of the recession that started in 2007 and because just like WWII got us out of the Great Depression, the increase in spending on the Iraq war, all done on Chinese credit and kept off the "books" stimulated the economy. any one with any education in economics wiuld know that...oh my bad forgot I was dealing with someone who graduated 6th grade after only 3 years
carol wrote:
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It seems we've had plenty of time to turn things around especially with $6 trillion. Something isn't adding up.
But, again, I'll wait for you to put these questions to rest and allay my concerns.
something isn't adding up alright.....and its because of your stupidity

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#828776 Dec 26, 2012
DBWriter wrote:
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Would you be talking about the recession caused by the Democrats' Marxist subpriime housing mortgage underwriting program that collapsed the economy after 2 years of oversight by Democrats Dodd and Frank?
Thought so.
Do you listen to yourself?
I do believe that if you check your history books you will find that the republicans had control of congress when the time of the mortgage industry control were relaxed
DumbDave

Lynn, MA

#828777 Dec 26, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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I see you did not find a brain under your tree this year. Maybe next year.
Obama never promised to pay off everyone's school loans.
Have anymore tall tales?
Carol didn't say Obama promised to pay off everyone's loans, idiot stick.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#828778 Dec 26, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
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Mitt Romney, meet Ronald Reagan. The Romney-Ryan campaign labels the 47 percent of people who don’t pay federal income taxes as “takers.” But to President Reagan, the godfather of today’s conservatives, anyone who worked for a living was a maker, whether he or she paid taxes or not.
Reagan strongly supported the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), which sends checks to Americans who work but earn less than around $46,000 a year, depending on family size. Recipients of the credit are among those who don’t pay income tax, but Reagan never regarded that as a problem. His administration estimated that the 1986 reform of the tax code would remove 6 million working poor from the tax rolls. Reagan called the reform a “sweeping victory for fairness” and “perhaps the biggest antipoverty program in our history.”
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-...
Bah, DBWriter will call Reagan a Democrat and move on. I will give Reagan credit for the EITC, he understood his policies would generate a lot of poor people and he didn't want anarchy.
LiarAlert

Lynn, MA

#828781 Dec 26, 2012
Just how did Bush let him "escape", moron?

The economy was find only because of Bill Clinton?

Lie much?

You must be one of the Socialists that escaped the Jonestown mass suicide.
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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what does that have to do with Iraq and Saddam?
and why did Bush let the man who did mastermind the 9/11 attacks escape capture/death at Tora Bora?
<quoted text>
which stimulus package are you talking about Bush's or Obama's?
and since you obviously are not an economist, nor have any education in economic, your opinion on that matter is about as useful as tits on a bull
<quoted text>
actually Geroge W Bush increased the national debt by nearly $6 TRILLION, from $5.5 to $11 trillion. Its now at about $14 trillion. since I now your math skills are also lacking, I'll do the math for you, that's an increase of $3 Trillion
<quoted text>
one the economy was fine in 2001, thanks to Bill Clinton and because of the severity of the recession that started in 2007 and because just like WWII got us out of the Great Depression, the increase in spending on the Iraq war, all done on Chinese credit and kept off the "books" stimulated the economy. any one with any education in economics wiuld know that...oh my bad forgot I was dealing with someone who graduated 6th grade after only 3 years
<quoted text>
something isn't adding up alright.....and its because of your stupidity
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#828783 Dec 26, 2012
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you be talking about the recession caused by the Democrats' Marxist subpriime housing mortgage underwriting program that collapsed the economy after 2 years of oversight by Democrats Dodd and Frank?
Thought so.
Do you listen to yourself?
LOL! Not Super Barney again.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#828784 Dec 26, 2012
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you be talking about the recession caused by the Democrats' Marxist subpriime housing mortgage underwriting program that collapsed the economy after 2 years of oversight by Democrats Dodd and Frank?
Thought so.
Do you listen to yourself?
Looking back, Keith Hennessey, Bush's current chief economic adviser, said he and his colleagues had done the best they could "with the information we had at the time." But Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration had not paid more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices.

And both Paulson and his predecessor, John Snow, say the housing push went too far.

"The Bush administration took a lot of pride that home ownership had reached historic highs," Snow said during an interview. "But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost."

For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security, a government retirement and disability benefits program. The housing market was a bright spot: Ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's first chief economic adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Bush meet housing goals.

"No one wanted to stop that bubble," Lindsay said. "It would have conflicted with the president's own policies."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/wo...

it seems you only listen to yourself.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#828785 Dec 26, 2012
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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I do believe that if you check your history books you will find that the republicans had control of congress when the time of the mortgage industry control were relaxed
Bah, Barney Frank was running everything, Bush/Cheney, The Republican controlled house/senate all stood by and watched as he ruled like an emperor.

They were powerless to stop him.
ParanoiaAlert

Lynn, MA

#828786 Dec 26, 2012
Where'd this hillbilly fkface come from?
OldRaider wrote:
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Great answer Dave. You're really getting to Waxturd this morning. You've got him cranking out record number negative Judge-its for a morning.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#828787 Dec 26, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Bah, DBWriter will call Reagan a Democrat and move on. I will give Reagan credit for the EITC, he understood his policies would generate a lot of poor people and he didn't want anarchy.
Reagan considered expanding to EITC to be one of the highlights of his administration.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#828788 Dec 26, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Not Super Barney again.
Charles Durning and Jack Klugman, two fine actors, passed away. RIP
President Bush Sr. in hospital again.
BonerAlert

Lynn, MA

#828789 Dec 26, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Not Super Barney again.
We understand your pain, Homer. Next time Super Barney comes around, use more jelly. It will help a chocolate packee libtard like you walk easier the next day! Simple!
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#828790 Dec 26, 2012
ParanoiaAlert wrote:
Where'd this hillbilly fkface come from?
<quoted text>
a fossilized rock probably-unless you want to go further back lol
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#828791 Dec 26, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Reagan considered expanding to EITC to be one of the highlights of his administration.
Yeah, 8 years in office he had to get one or two things right.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#828792 Dec 26, 2012
Everyone desiring to go over the fiscal cliff have their parachutes ready?

How many YEARS will it take for this admin to get a BUDGET-for the People, by the People, of the People.. for crying out loud...we've already WASTED four.

May 2013 STRAIGHTEN UP.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#828793 Dec 26, 2012
LiarAlert wrote:
Just how did Bush let him "escape", moron?
The economy was find only because of Bill Clinton?
Lie much?
You must be one of the Socialists that escaped the Jonestown mass suicide.
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1. by outsourcing the war on Al Qaeda to the the northern alliance because Bush was concentrating our forces to invade Iraq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tora_B...

"A search of the area by U.S. forces continued into January, but no sign of bin Laden or the al-Qaeda leadership emerged. Former CIA officer Gary Berntsen, who led the CIA team (consisting primarily of CIA Paramilitary Officers from Special Activities Division) in Afghanistan that was tasked with locating Osama bin Laden, claims in his 2005 book Jawbreaker that he and his team had pinpointed the location of Osama bin Laden. Also according to Berntsen, a number of al-Qaeda detainees later confirmed that bin Laden had escaped Tora Bora into Pakistan via an easterly route through snow covered mountains to the area of Parachinar, Pakistan. He also claims that bin Laden could have been captured if United States Central Command had committed the troops that Berntsen had requested. Former CIA officer Gary Schroen concurs with this view and Pentagon documents are suggestive."

A former Delta Force commander, using the pen name "Dalton Fury", who was present at Tora Bora has written that bin Laden escaped into Pakistan on or around December 16, 2001. Fury gives three reasons for why he believes bin Laden was able to escape:(1) the US mistakenly thought that Pakistan was effectively guarding the border area,(2) NATO allies refused to allow the use of air-dropped GATOR mines, which would have helped seal bin Laden and his forces inside the Tora Bora area, and (3) over-reliance on native Afghan military forces as the main force deployed against bin Laden and his fighters. Fury states that the Afghan forces would usually leave the battlefield in the evenings to break their Ramadan fasts, thereby allowing the al-Qaeda forces a chance to regroup, reposition, or escape.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-141...

The strategy, as with the whole Afghan campaign, was to limit the number of American boots on the ground.

Instead Afghan fighters would operate under the direction of the small CIA/Special Forces teams, supported by air power.

But at Tora Bora, the Afghan mujahideen proved unreliable allies. They refused to fight at night leaving al-Qaeda to reoccupy ground that had been painfully won.

At one point they agreed a ceasefire which may even have secretly assisted Bin Laden. "I don't think they were properly trained," recalls the anonymous Special Forces soldier. "And I don't think their heart was in it."

Berntsen asked for 800 US Rangers to be placed between Bin Laden and the border, or to enter the mountains from the Pakistani side. His request was denied.

"Once you have to ask Washington for assistance, then all sorts of political calculations enter in and… unfortunately that's what occurred," Berntsen told the BBC.

Interesting, you republicretards blame President Obama for the state of the economy, but when it was fine, the federal gov't was running a surplus budget and we were paying of the national debt, the sitting President who was responsible for the federal budget gets no credit.....
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#828794 Dec 26, 2012
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Charles Durning and Jack Klugman, two fine actors, passed away. RIP
President Bush Sr. in hospital again.
Oh man, I heard about Klugman, did not know about Durning. Two of my favorites. Charles Durning in O Brother where Art Thou, excellent.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#828795 Dec 26, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Not Super Barney again.
LMAO. Three Georgia counties are suing the giant British lender HSBC for aggressively targeting minorities for mortgages that were very likely to fail. And fail they did wreaking havoc on the tax bases of Fulton,Cobb and DeKalb Counties__greater Atlanta. Novel approach and one that actually places the blame exactly where it belongs.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#828796 Dec 26, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Bah, Barney Frank was running everything, Bush/Cheney, The Republican controlled house/senate all stood by and watched as he ruled like an emperor.
They were powerless to stop him.
Now read from the duhmbocrapTic sode of the playbook Homer.
And don't be dolluh licking while reading!

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