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#827932 Dec 23, 2012
PDUPONT wrote:
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The Obama administration didn't run assault weapons down to Mexico you goddamned liar. Those guns would have gotten there anyway "Fast and Furious" or not. The blame falls on the Bush administration and the Republican dominated congress for not renewing the assault weapons ban and GOP dominated state legislatures like in Arizona that allow pretty much unlimited purchase of the weapons with no questions asked.
You're an idiot!
Petey, your eyes turned brown from all the stuff flowing upward in your body. You're the idiot, and I have my wife's permission to say so.. George Bush hasn't been in the Oval Office for four and a half years. When is Barack Hussein Obama going to step up....
By the way Petey, what is the technical definition for a weapon that shoots more than one round with ONE trigger pull? Come on Petey dazzle us wif your knowledge??

“Seriously Misguided Democrat”

Since: Oct 12

Chicago Thugtown

#827933 Dec 23, 2012
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Just curious, what do you think should be done to a Mexican that smuggled a gun into the USA?
Did the Mexican declare his antique shotgun upon entering? If he did, then that wouldn't be smuggling, would it? Try to keep your comparisons logical. It makes for a much more inteligent and honest debate.

He is in Brownseville, TX now. Why don't you go ask him about it.

“Seriously Misguided Democrat”

Since: Oct 12

Chicago Thugtown

#827935 Dec 23, 2012
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Any rifle that isn't a lever action or bolt action SHOULD be defined as an assault rifle. That was easy, problem solved.
Yes, we know already. Any rifle that is like like what you own, should be banned. Why do you keep repeating yourself?
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#827936 Dec 23, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe we'll learn the entire story and maybe not. Mom trusted the kid alone at home, he had a car, he had attended a nearby college and even had some friends. No one so far has come forward to say that the kid was batshyte crazy and a possible danger to society. If there was a "danger" list as Wayne LaPierre called for, Adam Lanza would not have been on it, nor would have been the Columbine kids, the mutt that shot Giffords or the Aurora shooter who actually knew that he was slipping over the edge but it was much to late for a list.
There are some crazy mofo's posting right here 24/7, claiming to be armed and dangerous, we had one a while back whose registered profile contained death threats against the POTUS.
Congress wont ban these so called assault weapons lily, it's to late, the consumer market is large and too very well established.
What I personally would like to see is a federal ban on off premise sales, in other words no gun shows anywhere, period. Weapons and ammo would be sold only in the buildings where the license lives.
IMO, responsible gun owners would be OK with that___maybe not the gun freaks__fk those bozos__it's long past time to cull that herd.
Let's see what happens. With the buyback plan; what's to stop the person from buying another gun? Unless they are given vouchers for food instead.
RUSH10ME

Gloucester, VA

#827938 Dec 23, 2012
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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We don't know if he was being treated by a psychiatrist or not; he may have been on meds and stopped taking them; she did go away to New Hampshire for 2 days, seems as though that's when he planned his rampage. Nevertheless, if the accounts are true that he attempted to purchase a gun at Dicks and attempted to obtain a permit and was turned down, it would appear that the guns were probably locked up but he found a way to get them. The bottom line is that if she did not have those guns, this may have not happened.
He may have killed her by other means and himself and 20 kids would be alive as well as the teachers.
Get rid of the weapons.
Ban liberals , guns actualy serve a purpose.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#827939 Dec 23, 2012
Fenris the Big Bad Wolf wrote:
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Fail......
"During 1999--2002, among persons aged 10--19 years, the homicide rate for blacks was estimated to be 17.8 per 100,000 population, a rate 10 times that of whites (1.8 per 100,000) and higher than the rates reported for American Indians/Alaska Natives (AI/ANs)(6.0 per 100,000), Asian/Pacific Islanders (A/PIs)(2.9 per 100,000), and Hispanics (8.0 per 100,000)(2)".
it was referring to those that feel the need to kill a bunch of folks all at once in one particular place.

70% are white.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#827940 Dec 23, 2012
Suicide by mass murder: Masculinity, aggrieved entitlement, and rampage school shootings

School shootings have become more common in the United States in recent years. Yet, as media portrayals of these ‘rampages’ shock the public, the characterization of this violence obscures an important point: many of these crimes culminate in suicide, and they are almost universally committed by males. We examine three recent American cases, which involve suicide, to elucidate how the culture of hegemonic masculinity in the US creates a sense of aggrieved entitlement conducive to violence. This sense of entitlement simultaneously frames suicide as an appropriate, instrumental behaviour for these males to underscore their violent enactment of masculinity.

http://logicalliving.blog.com/files/2011/04/S...

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sonicfilter

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#827941 Dec 23, 2012
Send in the Clowns

WHEN thinking about the state of the Republican Party, I defer to a point that the Democratic consultant James Carville made the other day:“When I hear people talking about the troubled state of today’s Republican Party, it calls to mind something Lester Maddox said one time back when he was governor of Georgia. He said the problem with Georgia prisons was ‘the quality of the inmates.’ The problem with the Republican Party is the quality of the people who vote in their primaries and caucuses. Everybody says they need a better candidate, or they need a better message but — in my opinion — the Republicans have an inmate problem.” The political obsessions of the Republican base — from denying global warming to defending assault weapons to opposing any tax increases under any conditions, to resisting any immigration reform — are making it impossible to be a Republican moderate, said Carville. And without more Republican moderates, there is no way to strike the kind of centrist bargains that have been at the heart of American progress — that got us where we are and are essential for where we need to go.

Republican politicians today have a choice: either change your base by educating and leading G.O.P. voters back to the center-right from the far right, or start a new party that is more inclusive, focused on smaller but smarter government and market-based, fact-based solutions to our biggest problems.

But if Republicans continue to be led around by, and live in fear of, a base that denies global warming after Hurricane Sandy and refuses to ban assault weapons after Sandy Hook — a base that would rather see every American’s taxes rise rather than increase taxes on millionaires — the party has no future. It can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/opinion/sun...

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#827942 Dec 23, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
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it was referring to those that feel the need to kill a bunch of folks all at once in one particular place.
70% are white.
A valid argument, in the mind of a racist.

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#827943 Dec 23, 2012
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Would you be in favor of corporal punishment by parents and teachers? What are meaningful and effective consequences?
Should people with children have guns in the home?
One thing that is a given; if there are guns in the home; kids always find them, they have that gun radar somehow. Another 3 year old found a gun the other day and shot himself. Happens every day.
The man who brought his 7 year old son with him to sell his guns at a gunstore, accidently shot his son in the chest and killed him.
It's just awful. To me the answer is to ban guns, although I don't think it will happen
There is a cost to banning handguns.

It will make us completely helpless against the government.

I view that as the greater of two evils.

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carol

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#827944 Dec 23, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Dream on babe__what you're talking about is unwinding HIPPA and that will not happen in your lifetime. Think about it, when you put someones name on a government registry for mental/emotional problems/diagnoses you in effect destroy that persons life. Who makes that decision? Will there be a second or third opinion option? Who pays for the medical evaluations?
It's another expensive government growing intrusion that targets the wrong people for 99.9% of the citizens that would wind up on such a list would likely never attempt to purchase any sort of weapon.
The Newtown shooter didn't attend school, the only person who observed him on a daily basis was his mother who "obviously" didn't consider him a potential mass murderer. There was a lot of money coming into that household, her alimony schedule for 2012 alone was for $289,000 and we don't know whether dad was sending Adam money.
Doesn't have to be a government registry. Medical professionals can intervene based on evidence presented to local authorities. No need to document names by state and local governments.

Maybe HIPAA needs to have extenuating exceptions to right to privacy. The lives of children would be a good one.

Just suggesting a possible solution.

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#827945 Dec 23, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
Send in the Clowns
WHEN thinking about the state of the Republican Party, I defer to a point that the Democratic consultant James Carville made the other day:“When I hear people talking about the troubled state of today’s Republican Party, it calls to mind something Lester Maddox said one time back when he was governor of Georgia. He said the problem with Georgia prisons was ‘the quality of the inmates.’ The problem with the Republican Party is the quality of the people who vote in their primaries and caucuses. Everybody says they need a better candidate, or they need a better message but — in my opinion — the Republicans have an inmate problem.” The political obsessions of the Republican base — from denying global warming to defending assault weapons to opposing any tax increases under any conditions, to resisting any immigration reform — are making it impossible to be a Republican moderate, said Carville. And without more Republican moderates, there is no way to strike the kind of centrist bargains that have been at the heart of American progress — that got us where we are and are essential for where we need to go.
Republican politicians today have a choice: either change your base by educating and leading G.O.P. voters back to the center-right from the far right, or start a new party that is more inclusive, focused on smaller but smarter government and market-based, fact-based solutions to our biggest problems.
But if Republicans continue to be led around by, and live in fear of, a base that denies global warming after Hurricane Sandy and refuses to ban assault weapons after Sandy Hook — a base that would rather see every American’s taxes rise rather than increase taxes on millionaires — the party has no future. It can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/opinion/sun...
You are here.

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#827946 Dec 23, 2012
List of companies I will not buy from.

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#827948 Dec 23, 2012
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The biggest problem I see is that you people who want to ban 'assault' weapons don't have a clue about weapons in the first p[lace.
You're right, I've never owned an assault weapon, I've only had those assigned to me by the US Army.

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cway

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#827949 Dec 23, 2012
I include assault type weapons as well.

It's an evil we must live with. Otherwise, we are a disarmed people.

We can try to keep weapons out of the hands of nutcases, but that's as far as it should go.

Adam Lanza was a such a nutcase. If his mother had done a better job of keeping the weapons secured, the tragedy would not have occurred.

He should have been institutionalized years ago.

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cway

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#827952 Dec 23, 2012
It's clear we need more security at schools. Too easy for outsiders to enter.

Entry points should be covered by TV cameras. And perhaps the principal should have a few weapons secured in his office for a worst case scenario.

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#827953 Dec 23, 2012
you gotta ask the question did anyone realy think that he will do anything the next years ? can he do anything ? does he even know what a apresident means ?

Jeebuss wrote:
Yep.
People don't care. They just wanted a black president. Period.
You're right, they have no one to blame but themselves when taxes skyrocket and the military becomes downsized, leaving us vulnerable to attacks.
They are actually happy that they have put this country in danger.
cway

United States

#827955 Dec 23, 2012
Tyranny can happen anywhere.

If the populace has some means of resistance, that is far better than none at all.

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#827956 Dec 23, 2012
On a less gloomy note, the Bush tax cuts are about to expire and there's nothing John Boehner can do about it.

Except cry in his beer.

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