Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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“My Life Is A Shell Game”

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NRA Leader Wayne LaPierre's Much-Criticized Sandy Hook Speech Was Actually Quite Effective
Spend enough time dipping into the post-game reaction of NRA leader Wayne LaPierre's press conference today -- staged and performed as the organization's first public statement since the tragic school shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.-- and you'll likely run up on any number of people who'll tell you the LaPierre's presentation (which included calls for more guns in schools and greater restrictions on video games) was tone-deaf or ineffective or out-of-touch or a failure.
Those critics are wrong. LaPierre's presentation was terrifically effective.
Granted, if you believe that what LaPierre was trying to do today was to sincerely join in a national conversation over school shootings, or offer a coherent set of preventative policy options, or even just demonstrate some baseline sensitivity for the lives that were lost, it is easy to see why you'd deem LaPierre's press conference to be an ineffective, tone-deaf failure. But what you should remember that the National Rifle Association does not exist to offier sensible public policy or participate in conversations or pretend to be sensitive about tragedies. The National Rifle Association exists to assist the manufacturers of guns and gun-related accoutrements in selling guns and gun-related accoutrements to people. That is their job, summed up, in its entirety.
The NRA are lobbyists who represent a bunch of gun retailers, and this is what lobbyists do -- they help their clients sell their products. And every action that LaPierre took today can and should be viewed through that prism.
......Wayne LaPierre did not go out in front of reporters in a sincere attempt to mount a policy argument or craft a solution or engender warm feelings from his critics. Today was about synergy. Wayne LaPierre went out in front of reporters because he knew it was time to leverage the Sandy Hook shooting into a unique, sales-boosting opportunity for the industry he represents.
And what's going on in Connecticut today?
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I'm at a gun shop thirty minutes away from Newtown CT. This place is packed. Ppl worried guns will be illegal so they are stocking up
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So, you maybe didn't notice, but today was a good day for Wayne LaPierre.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/nra-...
I saw the speech(and the little Liberal effeminate holding his sign in front of the camera). I found myself voicing solidarity with him every few seconds. Great speech. We need to defend our children. Liberals want to run away when the bad guys show up. Stand up for your kids or else STFU.

It's High Noon in America and the skulking Jerk-In-Chief is leading Liberals out of town behind the outhouse, past the hog shed and down to da ribba. Meanwhile, the kids are stuck on Main St. with nothing as another wacko approaches.
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John Galt wrote:
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If the US cuts its military budget, who will be left to overthrow dictators like Khaddafi, Mubarak, and Assad?
Not that we should be interfering as Obama has.
No one will be left to do it. Sounds great. We could become like the rest of the world you never hear about and keep the money, our troops and our noses out of everyone's business.
There are many nations in the world doing just fine without making war with the world. New Zealand, Netherland, Switzerland, Canada, Denmark, Australia and on and on of Nations that enjoy freedom and life without spending 1/3 of their wealth making war.
America was founded by killing most of the original inhabitants. Having people enslaved. And a civil war that took out almost 700,000 people. Just 70 years ago we put some of our own American citizens in prison camps because they looked like a people the US declared war on. Let the other nations work it out like we did.

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shinningelectr0n wrote:
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I saw the speech(and the little Liberal effeminate holding his sign in front of the camera). I found myself voicing solidarity with him every few seconds. Great speech. We need to defend our children. Liberals want to run away when the bad guys show up. Stand up for your kids or else STFU.
It's High Noon in America and the skulking Jerk-In-Chief is leading Liberals out of town behind the outhouse, past the hog shed and down to da ribba. Meanwhile, the kids are stuck on Main St. with nothing as another wacko approaches.
Yep, another right whiner who wants to arm potential child killers with assault rifles & 8 gazillion shot clips &, as protection, want to put a guy with a handgun to stop them.

NRA & their dumbass members at their brilliance.

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John Galt wrote:
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The next Speaker may decline to increase the debt limit, stopping Obama in his tracks. Sure, the media will howl and the polls may tank, but at least we will have two years of fiscal sanity.
The debt ceiling is unconstitutional.

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"real dumb"
Yeah, Kerry the guy for higher taxes, for the other guy. He's all for taxing those who have succeeded, but he will go out of his way to avoid paying taxes that come out of his pocket. Your kind of guy. Typical liberal loon.
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So I guess you are boycotting every corporation in America that has Delaware as its state of corporation. Of Course not. Because you are a hypocrite dumbass. GFY
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shinningelectr0n wrote:
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I saw the speech(and the little Liberal effeminate holding his sign in front of the camera). I found myself voicing solidarity with him every few seconds. Great speech. We need to defend our children. Liberals want to run away when the bad guys show up. Stand up for your kids or else STFU.
It's High Noon in America and the skulking Jerk-In-Chief is leading Liberals out of town behind the outhouse, past the hog shed and down to da ribba. Meanwhile, the kids are stuck on Main St. with nothing as another wacko approaches.
then try a different sales pitch.....

Since Newtown school shootings, sales of kids’ bulletproof backpacks soar

“We never wanted to be in the spotlight for kids’ body armor,” Williams said.“There’s a criticism that we’re capitalizing on the tragedy. That isn’t true.”

But some school safety experts disagree, saying that Amendment II and companies like it profit from parents’ fear — and sow another kind of danger.

The backpacks distract parents from other concerns, such as whether their children’s school has an up-to-date safety plan and how often teachers receive safety training, said Kenneth Trump, a school security consultant. They also demonstrate what he calls a fundamental “misunderstanding of how kids and schools work.” Students don’t carry their backpacks for most of the day, and in the event of a scary, split-second disaster, a child is unlikely to “deflect bullets” with a bag, Trump said.

Studies have shown that highly visible efforts to increase school safety, such as cameras and armed guards, decrease students’ feelings of security, said Eric Rossen, a clinical psychologist and administrator at the National Association of School Psychologists. That’s another risk with bulletproof backpacks, he said. Children who don’t feel safe also don’t feel connected or understood, ultimately undermining their ability to learn and to form trusting relationships, he said.

“Despite our intuition at times like these, schools remain one of the safest places for children in America,” Rossen said.“So statistically, the psychological costs outweigh any potential benefit,” he added, referring to bulletproof backpacks and other such efforts.

Regardless of whether manufacturers are peddling protection, as they say, or distraction, as school experts do, it does appear that backpack manufacturers benefit from fear. Trump says he has heard of the backpacks before — they typically bubble up after school shootings.

BulletBlocker promoted its backpacks on Facebook after the movie theater shootings in Aurora, Colo., in July, writing,“Crazies don’t shoot people because of BulletBlocker.com ..&#8201;.&#8201;. BulletBlocker exists because of crazies!”

For some people with a connection to the Sandy Hook shootings, none of this sits well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/econom...
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Wayne LaPierre Speech Was A Total Public Relations Disaster, Say PR Experts

Public relations experts who have experience working with the gun industry expressed horror on Friday afternoon at the National Rifle Association's response to the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

The group's executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre, struck a scolding tone on Friday, blaming the video game industry and media for exposing youth to a culture of violence, and calling for armed police or security guards in schools: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.

Public relations professionals reached by The Huffington Post said the timing of his message, which broke a week of silence in the wake of the tragic murder of 26 children and adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School, could be an irredeemable mistake for the group.

“It was worse than if the NRA had not spoken at all,” said Gene Grabowski, executive vice president of Levick Strategic Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based issues management firm that has worked with firearms manufacturers. "The same message about the culture in another time and place might have made sense, but in context of tragedy, it seemed mean-spirited, cold and misguided."

Grabowski also said the NRA made a mistake by remaining silent on its social media channels last week. After the Sandy Hook tragedy, the organization stopped activity on all of its Twitter, Facebook and YouTube accounts.

The NRA is under close scrutiny this week as the Sandy Hook shooting renews the political and social debate over gun-control laws. The organization is one of the nation's most powerful lobby groups, but its extreme policy positions don't jibe with all gun owners, many of whom support tighter gun-control laws, according to a survey from a prominent Republican pollster in July.

"They have come out too aggressively," said Jonathan Bernstein, president of Los Angeles-based Bernstein Crisis Management. "[I'm] not even sure they have listened to their own members."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/wayn...
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A Role Reversal: Dems Grow More Unified While Cracks Form in the GOP

http://nationaljournal.com//columns/political...
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EasyEed wrote:
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"nobama 2012"
In order to form a more perfect union, president nobama should;
- Repeal the 1st. amendment
- Repeal the 2nd. amendment
- Repeal the 22nd. amendment
- Outlaw the republican party
- Take away the rights of all who lean to the right
- Repeal all Federal holidays
- Outlaw Fox News
- Outlaw the free expression of speech by O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, etal
- Outlaw all Christian religions
- Reinstate prohibition
- Legalize the possession and use of hard drugs
- Encourage more abortions/murder
- Make it the law of the land that gay marriage is legal, fuckthe will of the several states
Fortunately president nobama can do none of the above. Live with it loser.
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To the contrary. Under the Patriot Act, President Obama can suspend the 2nd Amendment by executive order as a matter of national security. You can thank your hero George Bush for that.
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It's not a diverson at all, that's a typical NRA response they don't want anyone looking at any sort of gun control. If now is not the time, when is the time to look at it, when there is a massacure at a mall perhaps ? The fact is, it is right up there just as slavery was in it's time. There was a civil war fought over that remember.
But the fact remains, in all the wars including the civil war,ww1, ww2, korea, vietnam, the middle east. Americans dying of gun related deaths out number the total of all those conflicts. That would suggest there is a huge problem, or civilisation has broken down completely.
There has never been a war fought over slavery , statws rights yes but not slavery .
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<quoted text>To the contrary. Under the Patriot Act, President Obama can suspend the 2nd Amendment by executive order as a matter of national security. You can thank your hero George Bush for that.
The power hungry HNIC would never do it , it's political suicide and he knows it , you are a fool and an ignorant one at that .
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Monday, 16 July, 2001, 04:50 GMT 05:50 UK
Handgun crime 'up' In UK despite ban
A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned. The research, commissioned by the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting, has concluded that existing laws are targeting legitimate users of firearms rather than criminals. The ban on ownership of handguns was introduced in 1997 as a result of the Dunblane massacre, when Thomas Hamilton opened fire at a primary school leaving 16 children and their teacher dead.
But the report suggests that despite the restrictions on ownership the use of handguns in crime is rising. The Centre for Defence Studies at Kings College in London, which carried out the research, said the number of crimes in which a handgun was reported increased from 2,648 in 1997/98 to 3,685 in 1999/2000. It also said there was no link between high levels of gun crime and areas where there were still high levels of lawful gun possession.
Of the 20 police areas with the lowest number of legally held firearms, 10 had an above average level of gun crime. And of the 20 police areas with the highest levels of legally held guns only two had armed crime levels above the average.
Smuggling
The campaign's director, David Bredin, said: "It is crystal clear from the research that the existing gun laws do not lead to crime reduction and a safer place.
"Policy makers have targeted the legitimate sporting and farming communities with ever-tighter laws but the research clearly demonstrates that it is illegal guns which are the real threat to public safety."
He said the rise was largely down to successful smuggling of illegal guns into the country.
Weapons have even been disguised as key rings no larger than a matchbox to get them in, he said.
Other sources of guns include battlefield trophies brought back by soldiers, the illegal conversion of replica firearms including blank firing pistols and the reactivation of weapons which had been deactivated.
Ammunition
Examples of illegally manufactured guns include screwdrivers being adapted to fire off one round, he said.
The Metropolitan Police said its official figures showed a 20% drop in armed robberies of commercial premises between April and July this year, compared with the same period last year.
A Scotland Yard spokesman said that, since April 2001, the Flying Squad has arrested 39 people in connection with 34 armed incidents and seized 52 weapons.
Operation Trident, which investigates "black on black" shootings in the UK, has made more than 300 arrests, recovered 100 firearms and 1,500 rounds of ammunition since it was established a year ago.
The Home Office said measures were being taken to tackle handgun crime, including an intensified effort against illegally smuggled weapons.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.st...
The stories you are posting are from 12 years ago. Gun crime did increase immediately after the gun ban but has decreased substantially in recent years. Like any new idea, the gun ban took time to begin working. Today gun crime in England is practically non-existent. As far as your Operation Trident story goes, 100 guns and 1500 rounds of ammo is practically nothing. Many NRA gun nuts in America have more guns than that. Nice try though.
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<quoted text>The power hungry HNIC would never do it , it's political suicide and he knows it , you are a fool and an ignorant one at that .
political suicide?

maybe you've forgotten that The Black Guy In Charge Of The White Asylum has yet to be sworn in for his second term.

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That's funny, being called a liar by a coward whose identity is a lie.
hehehe
How is anyones identity here a lie, moran? Is Old Raider your real name, you frikin idiot+? You are such a bull$hitter.

Now go back to your BS routine and stop trying to act like an hionest person. Everyone here already knows quite well you are full of a foul smelling waste material.

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shinningelectr0n wrote:
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Earlier this evening, I drove to town for groceries. As I pulled my car into the parking space, I saw a bumper sticker ahead of me saying "Don't like Liberals? Don't listen to the Media". I agreed and smiled to myself. It is comforting to occasionally find yourself in sociopolitical agreement with a stranger. I later stowed the groceries in the trunk and then decided to stop off for a Dairy Queen hamburger. I pulled into the Drive-Thru lane and lo and behold: the car ahead of me also had a bumper sticker. It said "I Don't Listen To Liberal Media". That's TWO inside of an hour!
But it got even more interesting. As I drove home, I turned on the radio to catch some news on NPR. There was a host interviewing two reporters. One was from the NY Times(of course) and the other was, I think, from the Chicago Tribune. Both reporters were lambasting the House Republicans. They both said that Conservatives have lost all definition of "compromise" and said that Obama has been bending over backward to meet them half-way. The NPR host agreed with them. I began screaming at the radio. These three Fellows In Fellatio then began discussing Susan Rice and just what a wonderful choice she would have made for SOS but, again, the Republicans don't understand compromise. They then noted that other Obama choices were afraid that they would become "Riced". The NPR host giggled and said "I like that. Got Riced!". He began using that expression further into their discussion. The MSM has completely dispensed with any pretense regarding their Leftist politics and intentions. And yet, if you call them on it, they instantly raise their hackles and start promoting their image of neutrality. Sickening.
In one short evening, I had witnessed the growing awareness that the common people around me have of Liberal Media's daily propaganda broadcasts. And then, as I drive home, I am exposed to it in all of it's vomiting glory.
The House is acting like it should and I am supporting their efforts like I should.
The bipartisan agreement between both Democrats and the Republicans that Obama claims won't agree on anything was, if Congress can't generate a sane plan for government, then automatic cuts and taxes will be enacted.
Well, the Democrats are getting what they agreed to. And, now, as usual they don't want to be held to what they agreed to.
Let the fiscal cliff come. The only intent of the Democrats is to prevent as much of the population from feeling the effects of the insanity of our government as possible, at the expense of the other half of the country paying all the income taxes for the entire country.
Let the fiscal cliff happen.
And, no more debt. Not for any reason.

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Truth is, you are correct.
Obama doesn't give a damn about gun control and is just using it as another wedge in his war against the American economy.
After 4 years of your whining that Obama was coming for your guns, you now say Obama 'doesn't give a damn about gun control'.

You're even crazier than I had given you credit for.

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<quoted text>The stories you are posting are from 12 years ago. Gun crime did increase immediately after the gun ban but has decreased substantially in recent years. Like any new idea, the gun ban took time to begin working. Today gun crime in England is practically non-existent. As far as your Operation Trident story goes, 100 guns and 1500 rounds of ammo is practically nothing. Many NRA gun nuts in America have more guns than that. Nice try though.
Well, then you should be able to join in the lottery. The over/under for the number of murders in Chicago over the Christmas weekend is 20, the same as the number of children killed in Connecticutt. Will there be more, or fewer murders in Chicago over the Christmas weekend than the number of children killed in Connecticutt?
What do you choose? Over or under?

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As far as the ahoes here who insist armed guards in schools can protect ou kids, there's this:

Columbine High School Had Armed Guards During Massacre In 1999

""But having armed security on-site failed to prevent the deadliest mass shooting at an American high school.

In 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 15 people and wounded 23 more at Columbine High School. The destruction occurred despite the fact that there was an armed security officer at the school and another one nearby -- exactly what LaPierre argued on Friday was the answer to stopping "a bad guy with a gun."

Deputy Neil Gardner was a 15-year veteran of the Jefferson County, Colo., Sheriff’s Office assigned as the uniformed officer at Columbine. According to an account compiled by the police department, Gardner fired on Harris but was unsuccessful in stopping him:

Gardner, seeing Harris working with his gun, leaned over the top of the car and fired four shots. He was 60 yards from the gunman. Harris spun hard to the right and Gardner momentarily thought he had hit him. Seconds later, Harris began shooting again at the deputy.
After the exchange of gunfire, Harris ran back into the building. Gardner was able to get on the police radio and called for assistance from other Sheriff’s units. "Shots in the building. I need someone in the south lot with me."

The second officer was Deputy Paul Smoker, a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket. When he heard a dispatch of a woman injured at the high school, he responded. He, too, fired at Harris but didn't stop him.""

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So much for the myth of the 'protector' with a gun.

NEXT!!
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<quoted text>The power hungry HNIC would never do it , it's political suicide and he knows it , you are a fool and an ignorant one at that .
Political suicide? He's already been re-elected. He has nothing to lose.(Are the racial slurs really necessary?)

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Show me the text in the Constitution that defines a different set of rights, one for civillian police and one for the people.
If it's not there, it doesn't exist.
... well? where's the text from the Constitution?
The Constitution outlines the framework of government, and specifies certain rights.
There is not a single statute of law in the Constitution, but that does not mean the federal government, states, counties and municipalities are lawless. As a private citizen: Do you have access to the files of ongoing investigations? Can you lawfully arrest and detain others? Can you obtain and dispatch warrants? Can you even speed on the streets with impunity?

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