Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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sonicfilter

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TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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I did.
I prefer interacting with people as individuals, based on their individual persona's...rather than just following whatever the herd pack was/is following at the moment.
you're about as contradictory as anyone here.

you can take that as a compliment.
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On April 28, 1996, a gunman opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania. By the time he was finished, he had killed 35 people and wounded 23 more. It was the worst mass murder in Australia’s history.

Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.

At the heart of the push was a massive buyback of more than 600,000 semi-automatic shotguns and rifles, or about one-fifth of all firearms in circulation in Australia. The country’s new gun laws prohibited private sales, required that all weapons be individually registered to their owners, and required that gun buyers present a “genuine reason” for needing each weapon at the time of the purchase.(Self-defense did not count.) In the wake of the tragedy, polls showed public support for these measures at upwards of 90 percent.

What happened next has been the subject of several academic studies. Violent crime and gun-related deaths did not come to an end in Australia, of course. But as the Washington Post’s Wonkblog pointed out in August, homicides by firearm plunged 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. The drop in suicides by gun was even steeper: 65 percent. Studies found a close correlation between the sharp declines and the gun buybacks. Robberies involving a firearm also dropped significantly. Meanwhile, home invasions did not increase, contrary to fears that firearm ownership is needed to deter such crimes. But here’s the most stunning statistic. In the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there had been 11 mass shootings in the country. There hasn’t been a single one in Australia since.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/g...
TheIndependentMa jority

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sonicfilter wrote:
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might?
are we going to do background checks on those who will be 'accountable and responsible'? much like we don't do them at gun shows?
it's an idea that's full of holes. so it just ends up sounding like more gun lobby propaganda.
ABSOLUTELY-Properly TRAINED and thoroughly background checked.

I already stated-that I felt such shouldn't be displayed as flea market items, available to just anyone for purchase.

DO you have a better idea to protect inncoents? Aside from enforcing harder-already in existance regulations?

I didn't think so.
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this one will get you wingnuts going....

The Secret History of Guns

The Ku Klux Klan, Ronald Reagan, and, for most of its history, the NRA all worked to control guns. The Founding Fathers? They required gun ownership—and regulated it. And no group has more fiercely advocated the right to bear loaded weapons in public than the Black Panthers—the true pioneers of the modern pro-gun movement. In the battle over gun rights in America, both sides have distorted history and the law, and there’s no resolution in sight.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2...
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sonicfilter wrote:
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you're about as contradictory as anyone here.
you can take that as a compliment.
Thank you then.

It's just so senseless.

Congress needs to wake up to.

Violence, violent attitudes and strong arm pushing and shoving attitudes only begets the same, and it all gets so UNcivilized and DEMENTED then.
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Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>you are if you are one of those that want to strip the law abiding citizens of their rights to defend & protect themselves from degenerates, just like the victims in Connecticut were denied the right to defend & protect themselves because of Gun Control Laws by the traitors and to degenerates laws mean nothing.
Yeah, if these 20 1st graders were carrying guns like the NRA would like, this wouldn't have happened.
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
People who have guns at home shouldn't tell anyone about it, especially if there are teenagers around; many breakins looking for guns that will commit crimes and kill people.
Most people who have guns in their home advertise it by slapping NRA stickers all over their pickup trucks.
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What you read...

Move to Europe...
"Until the Newtown horror, the three worst K–12 school shootings ever had taken place in either Britain or Germany."

Safer now...
"the high point for mass killings in the U.S. was 1929, according to criminologist Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections..."

Winning the lottery
"The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning"

Mental illness
"... A lengthy study by Mother Jones magazine found that at least 38 of the 61 mass shooters in the past three decades “displayed signs of mental health problems prior to the killings.”

GUN FREE ZONES
"...the Aurora shooter, who killed twelve people earlier this year, had a choice of seven movie theaters that were showing the Batman movie he was obsessed with. All were within a 20-minute drive of his home. The Cinemark Theater the killer ultimately chose wasn’t the closest, but it was the only one that posted signs saying it banned concealed handguns carried by law-abiding individuals. All of the other theaters allowed the approximately 4 percent of Colorado adults who have a concealed-handgun permit to enter with their weapons..."

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sonicfilter wrote:
this one will get you wingnuts going....
The Secret History of Guns
The Ku Klux Klan, Ronald Reagan, and, for most of its history, the NRA all worked to control guns. The Founding Fathers? They required gun ownership—and regulated it. And no group has more fiercely advocated the right to bear loaded weapons in public than the Black Panthers—the true pioneers of the modern pro-gun movement. In the battle over gun rights in America, both sides have distorted history and the law, and there’s no resolution in sight.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2...
Don't you have a tv to install?
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The visit is a photo-op, you fcukingass. Who stands to benefit from his grand appearance, the shattered families? Condolences and reassurances would be better served by a personal call. He's there to further his agenda, maybe even squeeze out another phantom tear.
This visit is to console the victim's families and to begin the process of a total gun ban in America. Only President Obama has the courage to say publicly that it's an idea whose time has come.
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The Westboro Baptist Church, the controversial group known for protesting outside funerals of slain U.S. service members, announced that it will picket a vigil for the victims of Friday's Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, the second largest mass killing in American history.
Shirley Phelps-Roper, a spokesperson for the group and, like most members of the organization, a relative of the group's founder, Fred Phelps, announced on Twitter on Saturday the group's plan "to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/west...
These idiots and the idiots on right-wing hate radio are perfect examples of why the 1st amendment need to be looked at more closely and perhaps revised.
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Republican Honey wrote:
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Please explain the disasters he has "fixed" and the catastrophes he as "prevented".
His excellent response to the Gulf Oil Spill and the Hurricane Sandy victims was unprecedented. He will prevent future catastrophes such as the Sandy Hook massacre by banning firearms in America.

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John Galt wrote:
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The Republican base is fiscal conservatives, not the religious nutjobs. Time to gear campaigns to that reality and the turnout will improve.
Nice try John, the religious nut-jobs are your buddies not ours. The really ironic thing is that if the Republican party also threw out NRA nut-jobs like yourself and was left with only fiscal conservatives I might think about voting Republican.
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ole_47 wrote:
What you read...
Move to Europe...
"Until the Newtown horror, the three worst K–12 school shootings ever had taken place in either Britain or Germany."
Safer now...
"the high point for mass killings in the U.S. was 1929, according to criminologist Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections..."
Winning the lottery
"The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning"
Mental illness
"... A lengthy study by Mother Jones magazine found that at least 38 of the 61 mass shooters in the past three decades “displayed signs of mental health problems prior to the killings.”
GUN FREE ZONES
"...the Aurora shooter, who killed twelve people earlier this year, had a choice of seven movie theaters that were showing the Batman movie he was obsessed with. All were within a 20-minute drive of his home. The Cinemark Theater the killer ultimately chose wasn’t the closest, but it was the only one that posted signs saying it banned concealed handguns carried by law-abiding individuals. All of the other theaters allowed the approximately 4 percent of Colorado adults who have a concealed-handgun permit to enter with their weapons..."
http://www.na tioncom/articles/335739/facts- about-mass-shootings-john-fund #
"The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning" Tell that to the parents
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carol wrote:
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But you still haven't explained how taking them away from law-abiding citizens will keep them out of the hands of criminals.
I don't like guns either. But I also don't want them in the wrongs hands and innocent people at their mercy.
Maybe we should address that problem.
The criminals obtain them by stealing them from "law-abiding citizens". Such was the case with Adam Lanza and the Oregon mall shooter. If "law abiding citizens" don't have them, they won't be available to steal.
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Tenzing wrote:
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Where'd the shooter get the guns?
Either by stealing them or using "straw purchasers".
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carol wrote:
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The guns didn't commit the crime. A disturbed young man did.
The question is why did two young people in the same week commit such atrocious acts of violence? Or the movie theater killer? Or the Columbine killers? Or the killer who shot into a crowd where a congresswoman was hit?
The question is why they did it. Not how they did it.
Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. America needs to get rid of all these guns. It's time to repeal the deadly 2nd amendment.
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Lincoln Duncan wrote:
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the blood is on the hands of the pr i ck with the assault rifle shooting each child three times.
i can defend my home with a pistol, second amendment right. No one needs an assault rifle.
Nobody needs a gun in their home. With today's instant communication, police can arrive in seconds. The "wild west" method of law enforcement that gun nuts prefer only endangers innocent people even more. More "legal gun owners" are killed with their own guns than with illegal guns. There should be no such thing as a "legal gun owner".
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Fenris the Big Bad Wolf wrote:
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You are obviously inexperienced wth firearms, so let me help you out. Had these devates used shotguns, the death toll would be much higher under the circumstances......
Nobody needs a shotgun either. If you want to eat meat, buy it at the grocery store.
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In his speech last night, President Obama hinted that he will take whatever steps necessary to get rid of all these guns. Long live President Obama and his courage to make America a safe place to live again!!!

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