Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1263781 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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Realtime

Deltona, FL

#823990 Dec 17, 2012
Tenzing wrote:
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You'd be surprised at how strict gun control was in the old west, it was nothing like the way Hollywood depicts it. That sense of community that he talks about, that's what exemplified life in the cattle and gold towns, and its that sort communal cooperation that libertarianism is really about. Scale is irrelevant, you live in a version of it if your community has covenants and conditions. Those C and C's had no government involvement in them right?
http://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~rcollins/scholars...
Hedley Lamar?
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Nashville, NC

#823991 Dec 17, 2012
Reagan on Gun Control and Self-Defense


My thanks to blogger Mark Alexander and his Patriot Post for digging up this great quote from our last truly great president, Ronald Reagan, concerning gun control:

"You won't get gun control by disarming law-abiding citizens. There's only one way to get real gun control: Disarm the thugs and the criminals, lock them up and if you don't actually throw away the key, at least lose it for a long time... It's a nasty truth, but those who seek to inflict harm are not fazed by gun controllers. I happen to know this from personal experience."

It seems to me that Reagan would have known all too well how to relate to last week's massacre at Virginia Tech. After all, he said those words in 1983, after surviving John Hinckley's assassination attempt in 1981.

Indeed, Reagan wasn't a newcomer to his conviction. Back in 1975, then-Governor Reagan wrote:

"Our nation was built and civilized by men and women who used guns in self-defense and in pursuit of peace. One wonders indeed, if the rising crime rate, isn't due as much as anything to the criminal's instinctive knowledge that the average victim no longer has means of self-protection."

Yet, time after time, we Americans will cede our responsibility -- and our rights -- to the government in a desperate attempt to guarantee our safety. But the tradeoff is an illusion: we do not become more safe, and it is not free.

Again, Reagan speaks to this fact:

"There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism -- government."

It may be that Americans are waking up to the Pyrrhic nature of gun control laws and will instead reassert their right to keep and bear arms in self-defense. The State of Tennessee has certainly moved in the right direction here.

But as Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) recently put it, it is still likely that some sort of "people control" will be sought as a result of this latest travesty. "Whenever something terrible happens," Paul explains, "people reflexively demand that government do something. This impulse almost always leads to bad laws and the loss of liberty."

Do we really want security cameras and checkpoints to fill every corner of America? Do we really want extensive intrusion into our medical records and the risk of involuntary internment in medical asylums?

As Reagan often said, "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem." Government is the problem here for the very reasons Reagan states above: its promises of security actually make us less secure.

The solution -- as much of a solution that can reasonably be expected in a fallen world where evil people will always seek to do evil things -- is personal responsibility. It is the exercise of self-defense -- by exercising our right to bear arms, of course, but also through use of common sense and appropriate caution. And, as ACRU Policy Board member Walter Williams explained so well, this personal responsibility has to include appropriate parental oversight.

In the wake of yet another massacre in a "gun free" zone, we could use some of Ronald Reagan's wisdom. Perhaps then we -- as individual Americans and not as the state collective -- can avert or lessen such senseless travesties
http://theacru.org/acru/reagan_on_gun_control...

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#823992 Dec 17, 2012
" Dannel Malloy, the Connecticut governor, said the death toll might have been much greater and Lanza may have planned to kill even more.

“We surmise that… he heard responders coming and apparently at that, decided to take his own life,” Mr Malloy said."

In other words, the fact that other people with guns were showing up ended the carnage.

Since: Sep 10

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#823993 Dec 17, 2012
AP-GfK Poll: Science doubters say world is warming

A growing majority of Americans think global warming is occurring, that it will become a serious problem and that the U.S. government should do something about it, a new Associated Press-GfK poll finds.

Even most people who say they don't trust scientists on the environment say temperatures are rising.

The poll found 4 out of every 5 Americans said climate change will be a serious problem for the United States if nothing is done about it. That's up from 73 percent when the same question was asked in 2009.

And 57 percent of Americans say the U.S. government should do a great deal or quite a bit about the problem. That's up from 52 percent in 2009. Only 22 percent of those surveyed think little or nothing should be done, a figure that dropped from 25 percent.

Overall, 78 percent of those surveyed said they believe temperatures are rising, up from 75 percent three years earlier. In general, U.S. belief in global warming, according to AP-GfK and other polls, has fluctuated over the years but has stayed between about 70 and 85 percent.

The biggest change in the polling is among people who trust scientists only a little or not at all. About 1 in 3 of the people surveyed fell into that category.

Within that highly skeptical group, 61 percent now say temperatures have been rising over the past 100 years. That's a substantial increase from 2009, when the AP-GfK poll found that only 47 percent of those with little or no trust in scientists believed the world was getting warmer.

This is an important development because, often in the past, opinion about climate change doesn't move much in core groups — like those who deny it exists and those who firmly believe it's an alarming problem, said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University social psychologist and pollster. Krosnick, who consulted with The Associated Press on the poll questions, said the changes the poll shows aren't in the hard-core "anti-warming" deniers, but in the next group, who had serious doubts.

"They don't believe what the scientists say, they believe what the thermometers say," Krosnick said. "Events are helping these people see what scientists thought they had been seeing all along."

Phil Adams, a retired freelance photographer from Washington, N.C., said he was "fairly cynical" about scientists and their theories. But he believes very much in climate change because of what he's seen with his own eyes.

"Having lived for 67 years, we consistently see more and more changes based upon the fact that the weather is warmer," he said. "The seasons are more severe. The climate is definitely getting warmer."

"Storms seem to be more severe," he added. Nearly half, 49 percent, of those surveyed called global warming not just serious but "very serious," up from 42 percent in 2009. More than half, 57 percent, of those surveyed thought the U.S. government should do a great deal or quite a bit about global warming, up from 52 percent three years earlier.

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#823994 Dec 17, 2012
John Galt wrote:
When liberals drive the economy into the crapper, sooner or later conservatives will be called to the rescue:
TOKYO - Japan's conservative Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) surged back to power in an election on Sunday just three years after a devastating defeat, giving ex-Prime Minister Shinzo Abe a chance to push his hawkish security agenda and radical economic recipe.
Exit polls by television broadcasters showed the LDP winning nearly 300 seats in parliament's powerful 480-member lower house, while its ally, the small New Komeito party, looked set to win about 30 seats.
That would give the two parties the two-thirds majority needed to over-rule parliament's upper house, where no party has a majority and which can block bills, which should help to break a deadlock that has plagued the world's third biggest economy since 2007.
An LDP win will usher in a government committed to a tough stance in a territorial row with China, a pro-nuclear energy policy despite last year's Fukushima disaster and a potentially risky prescription for hyper-easy monetary policy and big fiscal spending to beat deflation and tame a strong yen.
Ya mean the way they were called to "rescue" us in 2008?

Yer a funny guy.

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#823995 Dec 17, 2012
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
The Senate vote was 74-26. 6 Democrats and 19 Republicans voted against the bill.
Which bill?
OUR EVIL GOVERMENT

Nashville, NC

#823996 Dec 17, 2012
&or ef=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.co m%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dgdj7zKGiDNw &has_verified=1

WATCH THIS ALL YOU BABY KILLERS!!!!!!

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#823997 Dec 17, 2012
'The Freedom of an Armed Society' http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/... - "As N.R.A. president Wayne LaPierre expressed in a recent statement on the organization’s Web site, more guns equal more safety, by their account. A favorite gun rights saying is “an armed society is a polite society.” If we allow ever more people to be armed, at any time, in any place, this will provide a powerful deterrent to potential criminals. Or if more citizens were armed — like principals and teachers in the classroom, for example — they could halt senseless shootings ahead of time, or at least early on, and save society a lot of heartache and bloodshed.

As ever more people are armed in public, however — even brandishing weapons on the street — this is no longer recognizable as a civil society. Freedom is vanished at that point." ... "In her book “The Human Condition,” the philosopher Hannah Arendt states that “violence is mute.” According to Arendt, speech dominates and distinguishes the polis, the highest form of human association, which is devoted to the freedom and equality of its component members. Violence — and the threat of it — is a pre-political manner of communication and control, characteristic of undemocratic organizations and hierarchical relationships. For the ancient Athenians who practiced an incipient, albeit limited form of democracy (one that we surely aim to surpass), violence was characteristic of the master-slave relationship, not that of free citizens." ..."As Michel Foucault pointed out in his detailed study of the mechanisms of power, nothing suits power so well as extreme individualism. In fact, he explains, political and corporate interests aim at nothing less than “individualization,” since it is far easier to manipulate a collection of discrete and increasingly independent individuals than a community. Guns undermine just that — community. Their pervasive, open presence would sow apprehension, suspicion, mistrust and fear, all emotions that are corrosive of community and civic cooperation. To that extent, then, guns give license to autocratic government.

Our gun culture promotes a fatal slide into extreme individualism. It fosters a society of atomistic individuals, isolated before power — and one another — and in the aftermath of shootings such as at Newtown, paralyzed with fear. That is not freedom, but quite its opposite. And as the Occupy movement makes clear, also the demonstrators that precipitated regime change in Egypt and Myanmar last year, assembled masses don’t require guns to exercise and secure their freedom, and wield world-changing political force. Arendt and Foucault reveal that power does not lie in armed individuals, but in assembly — and everything conducive to that."

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#823998 Dec 17, 2012
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Why don't you go join one of those anti abortion forums? We're not interested in this bullshyt.
Why do you loony left wingers act like we don't gave freedom of speech? Ignore her posts if you're not interested. Stupid fck.

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Since: Jul 07

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#823999 Dec 17, 2012
Lincoln Duncan wrote:
<quoted text>
Carol is still here she did not run away.
fred, florida and the collection of racist a s s hats are gone.
No woman wants to have an abortion.
Who should decide is the issue?
You've never read lily's posts? She promotes them. Her dream us to start a foundation to help women get abortions.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#824000 Dec 17, 2012
Eman wrote:
" Dannel Malloy, the Connecticut governor, said the death toll might have been much greater and Lanza may have planned to kill even more.
“We surmise that… he heard responders coming and apparently at that, decided to take his own life,” Mr Malloy said."
In other words, the fact that other people with guns were showing up ended the carnage.
Only a moron would think giving a person a gun makes him a trained responder.

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#824002 Dec 17, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
So all the mass killings, terror attacks, economic problems, can be linked to abortion??
Ya used to have Retard Fred here to agree with your anti abortion stupidity, but he left after the election.
Fred knew he'd lost and left the field quietly.
Too bad you didn't get the message. You've left for a few days, or threatened to leave, several times over the years.
Yet, in the biggest loss ever, something you swore would never happen, OBama was reelected. That was a sure sign for you to leave.
Take the hint. Leave.
You've been proven wrong about every issue. Yet you're too blind to take the hint and leave the thread.
Now you've reached the point where even the wingnuts are calling you a fool for you focus on social issues, which have cost the Republiclowns dearly.
There are other threads on Topix where youd fit in better than here.
Go find them.
You're the same stupid fck who promised he wouldn't be here after November 6th. Hahahaha

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#824003 Dec 17, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
I think he had attended that school when he was young, but I heard that in Newtown, and don't know for sure.
Don't know, but I hear he wasn't picked on, but kids like him are acutely aware they don't fit in. Thart's why they look at the floor.
I heard Nancy had gone to the school when he was a child and she didn't like the program he was in.
Think she took him out of school in Jr. High.
Don't know if they'll ever figure out why THAT school was stuck in his head for all these years..........
Where did the hatred come from?? He shot her 'several' times in the head. How does one do that to his mother??
----------
Boomtown Rats made a song about this sort of thing some years ago (1979), called "I don't like Mondays", about a school shooting;
"" According to Geldof, he wrote the song after reading a telex report at Georgia State University's campus radio station, WRAS, on the shooting spree of 16-year-old Brenda Ann Spencer, who fired at children in a school playground at Grover Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego, California on 29 January 1979, killing two adults and injuring eight children and one police officer. Spencer showed no remorse for her crime and her full explanation for her actions was "I don't like Mondays. This livens up the day". The song was first performed less than a month later. Geldof explained how he wrote the song.""
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =8yteMugRAc0XX
I wonder if we will ever figure out how to avoid creating people who "...don't like Mondays." Mass killings have been happening on this rock since the convergence of the first killing and the first mass&#65279; of folks. Probably around 60 thousand years. These days they just get more publicity - and the media encourages the crazies with all the coverage.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#824004 Dec 17, 2012
OUR EVIL GOVERMENT wrote:
Reagan on Gun Control and Self-Defense
My thanks to blogger Mark Alexander and his Patriot Post for digging up this great quote from our last truly great president, Ronald Reagan, concerning gun control:
"You won't get gun control by disarming law-abiding citizens. There's only one way to get real gun control: Disarm the thugs and the criminals, lock them up and if you don't actually throw away the key, at least lose it for a long time... It's a nasty truth, but those who seek to inflict harm are not fazed by gun controllers. I happen to know this from personal experience."
It seems to me that Reagan would have known all too well how to relate to last week's massacre at Virginia Tech. After all, he said those words in 1983, after surviving John Hinckley's assassination attempt in 1981.
Indeed, Reagan wasn't a newcomer to his conviction. Back in 1975, then-Governor Reagan wrote:
"Our nation was built and civilized by men and women who used guns in self-defense and in pursuit of peace. One wonders indeed, if the rising crime rate, isn't due as much as anything to the criminal's instinctive knowledge that the average victim no longer has means of self-protection."
Yet, time after time, we Americans will cede our responsibility -- and our rights -- to the government in a desperate attempt to guarantee our safety. But the tradeoff is an illusion: we do not become more safe, and it is not free.
Again, Reagan speaks to this fact:
"There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism -- government."
It may be that Americans are waking up to the Pyrrhic nature of gun control laws and will instead reassert their right to keep and bear arms in self-defense. The State of Tennessee has certainly moved in the right direction here.
But as Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) recently put it, it is still likely that some sort of "people control" will be sought as a result of this latest travesty. "Whenever something terrible happens," Paul explains, "people reflexively demand that government do something. This impulse almost always leads to bad laws and the loss of liberty."
Do we really want security cameras and checkpoints to fill every corner of America? Do we really want extensive intrusion into our medical records and the risk of involuntary internment in medical asylums?
As Reagan often said, "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem." Government is the problem here for the very reasons Reagan states above: its promises of security actually make us less secure.
The solution -- as much of a solution that can reasonably be expected in a fallen world where evil people will always seek to do evil things -- is personal responsibility. It is the exercise of self-defense -- by exercising our right to bear arms, of course, but also through use of common sense and appropriate caution. And, as ACRU Policy Board member Walter Williams explained so well, this personal responsibility has to include appropriate parental oversight.
In the wake of yet another massacre in a "gun free" zone, we could use some of Ronald Reagan's wisdom. Perhaps then we -- as individual Americans and not as the state collective -- can avert or lessen such senseless travesties
http://theacru.org/acru/reagan_on_gun_control...
Reagans best quotes should be retitled, Ronald Reagan's speechwriters best quotes. Deseret News___Mitt's favorite news source. Interesting eh?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#824005 Dec 17, 2012
Rasmussen has thrown up their hands and decided to report more accurate poll numbers since they like Fox couldn't sway the electorate -

Monday, December 17, 2012

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 55% of Likely Voters at least somewhat approve of President Obama's job performance. Forty-four percent (44%) at least somewhat disapprove (see trends).

Today’s figures include 34% who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 33% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of +1 (see trends). Yesterday and today mark the first time the president’s Approval Index has been in positive territory since June 29, 2009. A positive Approval Index rating means that more people Strongly Approve than Strongly Disapprove.
TSM

El Paso, TX

#824007 Dec 17, 2012
Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
Which bill?
Typical Liberal uninform I guess Mediamatter/Thinkprogess hasn’t posted it yet!!
The Senate passed a bill raising the debt ceiling that is aimed at averting a government default, clearing the way for President Obama to sign it into law.
The final vote was 74-26. Nineteen Republicans, six Democrats and independent Bernie Sanders of Vermont opposed the measure,

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#824009 Dec 17, 2012
Anonymous is attacking the Westboro Baptist Church. Check out the video:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559468-93/...

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#824010 Dec 17, 2012
OUR EVIL GOVERMENT wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =gdj7zKGiDNwXX&oref=http%3 A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch %3Fv%3Dgdj7zKGiDNw&has_ver ified=1
WATCH THIS ALL YOU BABY KILLERS!!!!!!
Your abortion pornography has rotted your brain.

Seek help.

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#824011 Dec 17, 2012
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a moron would think giving a person a gun makes him a trained responder.
And that relates to my post how?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#824012 Dec 17, 2012
Eman wrote:
" Dannel Malloy, the Connecticut governor, said the death toll might have been much greater and Lanza may have planned to kill even more.
“We surmise that… he heard responders coming and apparently at that, decided to take his own life,” Mr Malloy said."
In other words, the fact that other people with guns were showing up ended the carnage.
You just won't be happy until everyone is packing heat.

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