Barack Obama, our next President

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Tenzing wrote:

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Its too early for your disconnected craziness, I need more coffee first.

Try not to confuse yourself when counting any spoonfulsof sweetener'--we know how hard it is once the numbers go past ...three for you democratic herd lemming packs in a building full of them and their own confusion.

[Tenzing]

TheIndependentMajority wrote:

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Because PREVENTION, when practiced, works FAR better.

Galt is making some very good arguments but you still can't manage to get it. You're welcome to preach PREVENTION all you want, its when you want the government to enforce your "moral" convictions that you run afoul of small government types.

[leosnana]

carol wrote:

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We already covered this material.

"We already covered this material"??? That's carol's clueless way of saying she wishes she could cover her ass, but it's just too much teatarded lard to deal with. Did you see where Dick Armey got eight million to leave his "grassroots" Freedom Works? Should go with the typo and make it Greed 'em Works...

[Tenzing]

TheIndependentMajority wrote:

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The only people the Patriot act should bother-are the ones that are doing something WRONG.
You have a problem with that--you might want to reflect--INWARD, on your OWN lifetime of FAILINGS and stupidity!

That's the problem with handing the government a blunt instrument like the PATRIOT Act. You're assuming that the government will always get it right and only employ it against BAD people. That's an awful lot of faith to put in a government that has regularly disregarded its citizens' guaranteed rights.

[Nj raider 1]

TheIndependentMajority wrote:

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Obabamcare in it's current form is nothing but robbing the pockets of those out there every day ---(especially the poor saps at minimum wage jobs)--the BIGGEST sector of UN/ or NO insurance due to laxck of affordibility!
Add in this rotten apple cart barrel before the already broke back mule--people are gonna be really pissed when they figure out--the GRUBBERMINT has STUCK it to their working class broke-backs yet again-for NOTHING.
Now I'd have to support the Occupy whatever lamebrains IF and when they figure THAT out.
Hell, I'd help 'em make some "here's your signs" signs then!!!

Again, no facts, just blah, blah, blah, & opinions. In no way has Obama stuck it to the middle class since he's came in office 4yrs ago. Everything he's done was to help the middle & lower classes. Ya'll news to stop trying to mix biblical prophecy with reality.

[Lincoln Duncan]

Nj raider 1 wrote:

<quoted text> Again, no facts, just blah, blah, blah, & opinions. In no way has Obama stuck it to the middle class since he's came in office 4yrs ago. Everything he's done was to help the middle & lower classes. Ya'll news to stop trying to mix biblical prophecy with reality.

Middle Class reelected President Obama with popular and electoral vote.
Romney-Ryan in 2016

[Tenzing]

I have to uncomfortably share this with the group:

"Put more simply, this theory asserts that conservatives are less likely than liberals to engage in cognitive reflection and effortful systematic reasoning. Consequently, while liberals evaluate information with the aim of developing useful public policies, fearful, mule-stubborn conservatives will dismiss discomforting scientific facts and spend their time just “standing athwart history yelling stop.”
http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/04/often-w...

"standing athwart history yelling stop."

That's brilliant.

Its discomforting because I'm as guilty of this as Carol et. al. are guilty of the above:

"The third theory investigated in this study is what Kahan calls the expressive rationality thesis. In this case, beliefs about issues like the riskiness of climate change or nuclear power constitute part of what it means for people to belong to specific groups. Shared beliefs form part of their identities. People assess new information so that their conclusions signal their trustworthiness and loyalty to social groups with which they identify and to which they wish to be connected. The upshot is that people go along in order to get along with members of the social groups that they believe will benefit them."

I'm guilty of finding a libertarian rationale against just about anything the right holds dear.

Go ahead, try me ;-)

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Tenzing wrote:

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Rising costs following the full implementation of Obamacare is a function of rising costs of health care period. The only real falsehood here is the claim that Obamacare will magically reduce or check those costs but those costs will continue to climb with the more customers the government delivers to the health care industry.
Its economics at its simplest but is overlooked for all the hooplah.

It's MORE robbing via TAXATION the already UNISURED/beleagured lower wage working classes-and it's WRONG-WRONG WRONG WRONG--and they should be ASHAMED of themselves!!!!

CAPPING the flipping givverment programs-ESPECIALLY the WELFARE for fweeriding slackerTICS, would probably SAVE more in REDUCING costs than any amount of taxation in this rotten , OVER burden from freeriding ABUSES economy.

SHAME on them!!

[Chicagoan by Birth]

leosnana wrote:

<quoted text>I won't presume to speak for Homer, but I mean it--you are one of the most miserable, condescending, and untruthful posters on here...all you need is to start writing in total methmouth gibberish to be totally at the bottom of barrel.(Why don't you take a page from fried fred and gutless Gunner--at least they had the shame to pretend to disappear for a while.)

'and you're not.. a miserable, condescending, untruthful poster? Oh that's right you're a teacher, so the Demorat gibberish you spew is State sponsored.. correct? Give it a rest, Leo?

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Nj raider 1 wrote:

<quoted text> Again, no facts, just blah, blah, blah, & opinions. In no way has Obama stuck it to the middle class since he's came in office 4yrs ago. Everything he's done was to help the middle & lower classes. Ya'll news to stop trying to mix biblical prophecy with reality.

THIEVERY==NOTHING BUT MORE THIEVERY OFF the WORKING class peoples backs!!!!!!!!!!

SHAMEFUL

(and SPARE us Your zealot FREAKISH extremist hate of religion-it has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING economically!!!)

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Tenzing wrote:

I have to uncomfortably share this with the group:
"Put more simply, this theory asserts that conservatives are less likely than liberals to engage in cognitive reflection and effortful systematic reasoning. Consequently, while liberals evaluate information with the aim of developing useful public policies, fearful, mule-stubborn conservatives will dismiss discomforting scientific facts and spend their time just “standing athwart history yelling stop.”
http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/04/often-w...
"standing athwart history yelling stop."
That's brilliant.
Its discomforting because I'm as guilty of this as Carol et. al. are guilty of the above:
"The third theory investigated in this study is what Kahan calls the expressive rationality thesis. In this case, beliefs about issues like the riskiness of climate change or nuclear power constitute part of what it means for people to belong to specific groups. Shared beliefs form part of their identities. People assess new information so that their conclusions signal their trustworthiness and loyalty to social groups with which they identify and to which they wish to be connected. The upshot is that people go along in order to get along with members of the social groups that they believe will benefit them."
I'm guilty of finding a libertarian rationale against just about anything the right holds dear.
Go ahead, try me ;-)

IE: Political SUCKISM pandering and palm greasing.(rather than INTEGRITY, Morality, DECENCY, ethics and REAL humanity)

Flip that--that crappola is for mindless bobbleheaded LOW LIFES.

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Tenzing wrote:

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That's the problem with handing the government a blunt instrument like the PATRIOT Act. You're assuming that the government will always get it right and only employ it against BAD people. That's an awful lot of faith to put in a government that has regularly disregarded its citizens' guaranteed rights.

No, absolutely not--any one that would think that is inept and lacking in the reality realms of thought as well.

Personally, I've never witnessed such direct breaches of the Constitution, as seen in some of antics of the past four years.

[TheIndependentMa jority]

leosnana wrote:

<quoted text>"We already covered this material"??? That's carol's clueless way of saying she wishes she could cover her ass, but it's just too much teatarded lard to deal with. Did you see where Dick Armey got eight million to leave his "grassroots" Freedom Works? Should go with the typo and make it Greed 'em Works...

Why do ones like you always SLOBBER and covet over what someone else may have?

Really snotta-it's pretty patheTIC....talk about greed oozing out the pores of.....

[child of god]

Contrary to democrats beleifs , Jesus is our savior not obama.

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Tenzing wrote:

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Galt is making some very good arguments but you still can't manage to get it. You're welcome to preach PREVENTION all you want, its when you want the government to enforce your "moral" convictions that you run afoul of small government types.

I am not of the partay preaching for handouts for personal responsibility!!!!

My opinion is-pro-CHOICE---but help PAY for your CHOICES AND mistakes YOURSELVES, greedy, givverment dependent, lazy ass babymamma slackerTICS.

(I am NOT very nice when it comes to this kind of thing-because I have ALWAYS-WALKED the WALK...IE: for REAL-NOT phony hypocricy... of my own opinions!!!!!!!!!!

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Nj raider 1 wrote:

<quoted text> Again, no facts, just blah, blah, blah, & opinions. In no way has Obama stuck it to the middle class since he's came in office 4yrs ago. Everything he's done was to help the middle & lower classes. Ya'll news to stop trying to mix biblical prophecy with reality.

Obamacare i it's current form= THEIVERY-TAX AND FINE AND Screw some more-- the Uninsured, brokeback lower wage WORKING classes.

SHAMEFUL!!!!!!!!!!

[Homer]

Day 3 of operation Homer Betrayed.

The suspect list has been narrowed down to 2.

One of them shared private information with a 3rd party aka 'The Enemy'.

Once the suspect list is narrowed down to 1 look out.

Oh and good morning jackwagons.

[TheIndependentMa jority]

Aphelion wrote:

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I agree with you. The Republican party problem is that, just as the Democrat party, there are too many extremists with too much power in their respective parties.
I have no problem with individuals pursuing whatever endeavors that they like as long as it does not interfere with the freedoms of others or look to others to fund these endeavors. However it seems more and more frequent that we as taxpayers are being requested to fund such things.

AMEN!!!

[child of god]

Obama is the spawn of satan.

[TheIndependentMa jority]

PDUPONT wrote:

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Actually stupid, the Making Work Pay Tax Credit was a major part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 and did put extra money into workers pockets.
Do you honestly think that your "creative" spelling makes you look clever? It doesn't it makes you look like your intellectual development stalled at fourteen years old.

And that flipping miniscule, almost myopic reduction is part of what you idiots want to repeal no doubt.