Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#819267 Dec 10, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
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Thanks, but as you say, these morons are intrigurd by simple, shiny objects that fit on a bumper sticker.
Flat tax and Fair tax is great - for the wealthy.
Somehow, FAUX has convinced these poor morons like Carol that their interssts and the interests of the wealthy are the same.
That's why the level of income inequality is at historic levels, and companies like WalMart force their workers onto foodstamps and medicaid.
These nitwits blame the workers, call them stupid. They don't realize that lots of Iraq and Afgan veterans work for WalMart. They're all Americans, who deserve fair treatment by their employers. Fair is a living wage.
Yet they claim to be great patriots.
These folks are seriously f-uped.
Good news is they've proven themselves to be part of the lunatic fringe and can't understand why they got creamed in the election.
I just assume if Flack is for a fair/flat tax it's probably a bad thing.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#819268 Dec 10, 2012
The Game to Play Is Compromise Solution

Talking to plugged-in Republicans over the weekend, I got a couple overarching impressions. The first is a real, and not merely theatrical, pessimism that lawmakers in Washington are going to be spending Christmas with each other, and that we very well may go over the “fiscal cliff.” Republicans see in these negotiations an asymmetry of incentives. It’s not simply that President Obama has more leverage than House Republicans, or that he “holds all the cards,” or that he’s willing to go over the cliff. It’s that Obama wants to go over the cliff. He gets what he’s after with no resistance: more revenue, cuts to defense, and entitlements untouched.

Does he want millions of taxpayers to get hit with the Alternative Minimum Tax? Rates to go up on the middle- and working-class? Worse still, another recession? Of course not. But, as Bill Kristol writes, Obama knows that,

Republicans will fold with lightning speed after we go over the tax cliff on January 1.… If we go over the cliff, there won’t be damage to Obama’s chances of second-term success. Quite the contrary. What Republicans will have done is to make Democrats the party of tax cuts and Obama a president fighting for economic growth. As I say, it won’t happen. Most Republicans will go along soon after January 1 with what will now be the Democrats’ tax cutting agenda.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-ga...
ole_47

United States

#819269 Dec 10, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>pj media??? Who do think you are__fred/Paul
That sht happens at Orlando International several times per month and usually results in dropped charges.
Got anything worthwhile to report?
Newsflash!!!!

Realtime enjoys flushing and watching his ka ka go round in circles...

Movie at 11....
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#819270 Dec 10, 2012
The Journal’s Tax Advice

The Wall Street Journal editors are unhappy about the present correlation of political forces. Who isn't? They're also, I gather, unhappy about "Beltway sages" who, facing the fact that the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year, have suggested Republicans accept a modest increase in tax rates for the wealthy while leading the charge to keep taxes from rising for 98 percent of the American people.

It would be great if the Journal editors had a better idea of what Republicans could do. They don't.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/journal-...
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#819271 Dec 10, 2012
So what's the latest? Did Carol drive off the fiscal cliff yet?
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#819272 Dec 10, 2012
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Like they did in the late 90's?
How did people this f*cking stupid get to be CEO's? Or is it they think they are so much smarter and can dupe everyone with the same ease as they dupes thew Galts?
One man's opinion, but the point is that many will reach a limit where they are no longer willing to bust their asses or take risks to support a gang of thieving moochers.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#819273 Dec 10, 2012
Lincoln Duncan wrote:
<quoted text>
In 2016 Democrats will have a white candidate whose middle name in not Hussein. Bad news of GOP?
Or perhaps good news because that will reduce turnout of the Democrat base.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#819274 Dec 10, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
The Game to Play Is Compromise Solution
Talking to plugged-in Republicans over the weekend, I got a couple overarching impressions. The first is a real, and not merely theatrical, pessimism that lawmakers in Washington are going to be spending Christmas with each other, and that we very well may go over the “fiscal cliff.” Republicans see in these negotiations an asymmetry of incentives. It’s not simply that President Obama has more leverage than House Republicans, or that he “holds all the cards,” or that he’s willing to go over the cliff. It’s that Obama wants to go over the cliff. He gets what he’s after with no resistance: more revenue, cuts to defense, and entitlements untouched.
Does he want millions of taxpayers to get hit with the Alternative Minimum Tax? Rates to go up on the middle- and working-class? Worse still, another recession? Of course not. But, as Bill Kristol writes, Obama knows that,
Republicans will fold with lightning speed after we go over the tax cliff on January 1.… If we go over the cliff, there won’t be damage to Obama’s chances of second-term success. Quite the contrary. What Republicans will have done is to make Democrats the party of tax cuts and Obama a president fighting for economic growth. As I say, it won’t happen. Most Republicans will go along soon after January 1 with what will now be the Democrats’ tax cutting agenda.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-ga...
Compromise? Bah, if that is the game then the Tea Baggers have already lost. Have you ever met I mean ever a Tea Bagger willing to compromise?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#819275 Dec 10, 2012
The second paragraph is the Journal's attempted answer to the problem. But it turns out to be no answer at all.

It's true that "Mr. Obama also can't get what he wants without House Republicans. He needs their votes to extend current rates for lower-income taxpayers, as well as to prevent the Alternative Minimum Tax from hitting 27 million more taxpayers." But think for a minute about the implications of what the Journal seems to be saying. The Journal editors believe that after January 1, when taxes will have gone up for everyone, House Republicans will block Democratic legislation that would cut taxes—that would restore the lower 2012 rates for the vast majority of taxpayers, fix the Alternative Minimum Tax, and for that matter would probably offer a compromise on dividends and the death tax better than what will be the new dividend rate of 39 percent and death tax of 55 percent with a $1 million exemption.

Will Republicans really oppose such legislation? President Obama will be beating the drums for this tax cut. Senate Democrats will pass this tax cut. If Senate Republicans vote against it, it won't be "Senate Democrats running for re-election in 2014" who will have a tax hike on their resumes. It will be Senate Republicans who will have voted against cutting taxes. And if House Republicans block such legislation, it will be they, and they alone, insisting on higher taxes.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/journal-...
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#819276 Dec 10, 2012
Time.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#819277 Dec 10, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Compromise? Bah, if that is the game then the Tea Baggers have already lost. Have you ever met I mean ever a Tea Bagger willing to compromise?
don't you just hate it when Republicans want to raise our taxes?

so no, never seen that mythical creature.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#819278 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
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Are you Asian?
No. Demos/Tenzing New York Jewish.
carol

Orlando, FL

#819279 Dec 10, 2012
Homer wrote:
So what's the latest? Did Carol drive off the fiscal cliff yet?
I'm still here...and over the disappointment of you being my former topix BFF.

You're just another liberal who loves perverts.

Okay, now I'm disappointed again.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819280 Dec 10, 2012
Carter wrote:
<quoted text> You suffer from very low self-esteem, as do most obama worshippers.
This is great!!

I've got two of Nobraina's sockpuppets on the hook!!

Silly weenie!!

You answered using the wrong sockpuppet.

Try and keep them straight, Nobraina!!

I'm lovin' it!!
ole_47

Oklahoma City, OK

#819281 Dec 10, 2012
Why GM and Chrysler RAN to Mexico...

"GM workers in Mexico earn wages and benefits of 340 pesos a day ($26.40) on average, or less than $4 an hour, said Tereso Medina, head of the union for GM’s 5,000 workers in Saltillo, a city that makes one in four Mexican autos."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-09/gm-f...

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819282 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
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Gass guzzlin Jeeps are envogue now?
Sure, ask Emaam and Carol.

They both drive the pieces of crap.

Of course, we all know that conservatives don't believe in conserving anything, don't we??

Except for conserving tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, that is!!

ROFLMAO!!
Carter

Pompano Beach, FL

#819283 Dec 10, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
This is great!!
I've got two of Nobraina's sockpuppets on the hook!!
Silly weenie!!
You answered using the wrong sockpuppet.
Try and keep them straight, Nobraina!!
I'm lovin' it!!
Thank you for proving that obama-worshippers are as clueless as I said. LOL

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819284 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm still here...and over the disappointment of you being my former topix BFF.
You're just another liberal who loves perverts.
Okay, now I'm disappointed again.
You never noticed how Homer has mocked you for the past years?? Flew right over the cuckoo's nest, didn't it??

Wow!! Homer is really good!!

ROFLMAO!!
ole_47

Oklahoma City, OK

#819285 Dec 10, 2012
Why move to mexico to make a car?

"Including benefits such as pensions, health care and overtime pay, the CAW’s total average labour cost is about US$60 an hour, according to the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan. That compares with US$58 for U.S. workers at Ford, US$56 for GM and about US$52 at Chrysler."

while in Mexico...

"In Mexico, base hourly wages are just US$2 per hour, with all-in costs about US$4-$5 per hour, said CAW economist Jim Stanford. Other estimates put all-in hourly costs at US$5 to US$5.50 in Mexico"

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/09/14/...
ole_47

Oklahoma City, OK

#819286 Dec 10, 2012
John Galt wrote:
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No. Demos/Tenzing New York Jewish.
Figures...

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