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carol

Orlando, FL

#819294 Dec 10, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>It's not unusual in that section of Philly and parts of certain other large cities. As I said, in 57 of those same divisions, McCain got zero votes__not a single one.
You pal Sean Hannity was corrected on air about his story. and he sloughed off fact in favor of his fiction. Have you ever been to South Philadelphia Carol?
It's case closed for all but the insane.
It doesn't change the fact that if Romney had won and it was discovered 59 divisions in any conservative part of the country had not received even 1 vote for Obama, the left would be freaking out and would still be screaming the election was rigged.

Show of hands. Who believes this is absolutely true?

Mine is raised as high in the air as I can get it.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819295 Dec 10, 2012
Where'd all the rightwing cowards run off to??

Carol
Nobraina-Galt-Carter
Emaam
Ed
Fenris the blowhard
KY hillbilly
Retarded by Birth

You nitwits sure are easy to run off!!

I'm lovin' it!!
ole_47

Oklahoma City, OK

#819296 Dec 10, 2012
Rich people still rich...

No matter what you think is in Rmoney's underwear...

'Richter, Twombly Lead $2 Billion Basel Art Fair'

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-10/rich...

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#819297 Dec 10, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because you're afraid of me, you make shit up. The good part is you run off like a frightened weenie when I show up here.
Cowardice is your strong suite, Nobraina. That's why you won't use your rel naame anymore, but hide behind proxy locations with sockpuppets.
I'm lovin' it!!
They wrote a song about you

http://www.cmt.com/videos/brad-paisley/158728...

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819298 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean like Eric Holder and the Fast and Furious details?
You can always tell when Carol's been beaten.

She changes the subject.

She won't admit that Reagan had alzheimers for most of his 8 years any more than she will admit to the mistakes Bush made.

Yet she refuses to address why Bush has been declared dead by the Republiclown Party.

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#819299 Dec 10, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>However, they are not limited to use within their home state. For example, National Guard units from numerous states were used to aid in Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.""
Nutsickles wrote: " Why didn't Bush activate the National Guard??"

What a stupid fck.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#819300 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Ron Reagan is a far left liberal loon.
He isn't even invited as a guest on liberal commentator shows anymore.
Guess he had to get revenge after losing his 15 minutes of fame by writing that book.
Reagan's other son, Michael, completely contradicts that book.
So it's Reagan's far left liberal loon son's word - who has done everything possible to disrespect and dishonor his dead father's legacy - against his other son's word, the ideal son, who has done everything possible to respect and honor his dead father's legacy.
I pick Michael. You can have the loon. Nobody else wants him.
(By the way, it would leave a bad taste in my mouth if Amy Carter wrote a book destroying her father's character after his death too. And I don't even like Carter. It's just bad form.)
So, what do you remember about Maureen and Patti? The daughters.

Wasn't Michael aka John Flaugher a right wing radio guy?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#819301 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't change the fact that if Romney had won and it was discovered 59 divisions in any conservative part of the country had not received even 1 vote for Obama, the left would be freaking out and would still be screaming the election was rigged.
Show of hands. Who believes this is absolutely true?
Mine is raised as high in the air as I can get it.
You're an imbecile Carol.

Never been anywhere near Philadelphia eh?
Carter

Pompano Beach, FL

#819302 Dec 10, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of clueless, you still believe Rmoney won the election!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHHA
Thank you for once again proving that obama-worshippers remain as ignorant as prior to the incompetent's re-election. LOL
Carter

Pompano Beach, FL

#819303 Dec 10, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
Where'd all the rightwing cowards run off to??
Carol
Nobraina-Galt-Carter
Emaam
Ed
Fenris the blowhard
KY hillbilly
Retarded by Birth
You nitwits sure are easy to run off!!
I'm lovin' it!!
They probably realize that you are unworthy. LOL
carol

Orlando, FL

#819304 Dec 10, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>He's in Detroit presently, well not downtown but in Redford not far from the airport. He's joing with Daimler executives to announce another huge manufacturing expansion in the US, this one in Daimler trucks and components.
In nearby Toledo, Jeep is just completing retooling to begin building the replacement for the Liberty.
Sure wish I could find that interview of a small buisness steel manufacturer who was on Mike Huckabee last night.

He said Obama met with companies in his area too. That interview was quite revealing.

(If anyone else saw that interview and happens to run across it, please post it for Realtime.)

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819305 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Ron Reagan is a far left liberal loon.
.)
Sure, shoot the messenger. Admitting his father had a disease is destroying his character??

You really are dumber than a box o' rocks!!

At least Ron Reagan was his son, not an adopted kid, as was Michael.

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""How Close Did Lesley Stahl Come to Reporting Reagan Had Alzheimer's While in Office? Very Close.""

""CBS reporter Lesley Stahl may be able to settle the family feud that has erupted between President Ronald Reagan's two sons over an important historical issue: Did the 40th president have Alzheimer's disease when he was in the White House?

In a new memoir, his son Ron suggests that Reagan suffered from the beginning stages of this disease while he was commander in chief, pointing out that his father became "lost and bewildered" during the 1984 presidential debates with Democratic nominee Walter Mondale and that in 1986 Reagan could not remember the names of familiar landmarks. But Ron defends his father, who was not diagnosed with Alzheimer's until 2004, and his aides: "I've seen no evidence that my father (or anyone else) was aware of his medical condition while he was in office. Had the diagnosis been made in, say 1987, would he have stepped down? I believe he would have."
.

Ron Reagan's comments have ticked off his half-brother, Michael Reagan, who was adopted by Ronald Reagan and his wife, actress Jane Wyman, 13 years before Ron was born to Reagan and his second wife, Nancy Reagan. Michael, a firebrand conservative, has slammed Ron for concocting "falsehoods and lies and conspiracy theories to sell books." (Ron and Michael haven't spoken since the reading of the will following their father's death in 2004.) Michael claims there is no evidence his father had developed Alzheimer's while in office: "I saw my father on and off and I never saw anything that looked like that." And the Ronald Reagan Library and Foundation has issued a statement noting that "this subject has been well documented over the years by both President Reagan's personal physicians, physicians who treated him after the diagnosis, as well as those who worked closely with him daily. All are consistent in their view that signs of Alzheimer's did not appear until well after President Reagan left the White House."

But during his second term, Reagan did show worrisome signs of diminished mental capacity, according to Lesley Stahl. In the book she published in 2000, Reporting Live, Stahl recounts a disturbing encounter she had with Reagan in the summer of 1986. Stahl was finishing up a stint as CBS News' White House correspondent, and she was awarded the customary farewell audience with the president. As she, her husband, and her eight-year-old daughter were about to enter the Oval Office, Reagan's press secretary, Larry Speakes, told Stahl, "No questions at all, about anything." Stahl was angered by this, but she soon saw why Speakes had issued this instruction. When she and her family entered the office, the 75-year-old Reagan was standing by a Remington sculpture of a rearing horse, and Stahl immediately began to fret:


Reagan was as shriveled as a kumquat. He was so frail, his skin so paper-thin. I could almost see the sunlight through the back of his withered neck…His eyes were coated. Larry introduced us, but he had to shout. Had Reagan turned off his hearing aid?

…Reagan didn't seem to know who I was. He gave me a distant look with those milky eyes and shook my hand weakly. Oh, my, he's gonzo, I thought. I have to go out on the lawn tonight and tell my countrymen that the president of the United States is a doddering space cadet. My heart began to hammer with the import...I was aware of the delicacy with which I would have to write my script. But I was quite sure of my diagnosis."

cont'd..........

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819306 Dec 10, 2012
Eman wrote:
<quoted text>
Nutsickles wrote: " Why didn't Bush activate the National Guard??"
What a stupid fck.
Oh lookie, the little weenie has come out from Gunner's skirts!!

Attaboy, maybe Gunner can get you to grow a pair!!
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#819307 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
<quoted text>
57 stated
Horse pucky doodoo and Bayon_nets LOL
carol

Orlando, FL

#819308 Dec 10, 2012
Eman wrote:
<quoted text>
They wrote a song about you
http://www.cmt.com/videos/brad-paisley/158728...
Who knew this singer knew Nucular?

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819309 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Ron Reagan is a far left liberal loon.
He isn't even invited as a guest on liberal commentator shows anymore.
Guess he had to get revenge after losing his 15 minutes of fame by writing that book.
Reagan's other son, Michael, completely contradicts that book.
So it's Reagan's far left liberal loon son's word - who has done everything possible to disrespect and dishonor his dead father's legacy - against his other son's word, the ideal son, who has done everything possible to respect and honor his dead father's legacy.
I pick Michael. You can have the loon. Nobody else wants him.
(By the way, it would leave a bad taste in my mouth if Amy Carter wrote a book destroying her father's character after his death too. And I don't even like Carter. It's just bad form.)
Michael isn't even Reagan's son!! DUH

Ron is the son of Ron and Nancy Reagan. A bit more pedigree, eh??

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How Close Did Lesley Stahl Come to Reporting Reagan Had Alzheimer's While in Office? Very Close.

""But during his second term, Reagan did show worrisome signs of diminished mental capacity, according to Lesley Stahl. In the book she published in 2000, Reporting Live, Stahl recounts a disturbing encounter she had with Reagan in the summer of 1986. Stahl was finishing up a stint as CBS News' White House correspondent, and she was awarded the customary farewell audience with the president. As she, her husband, and her eight-year-old daughter were about to enter the Oval Office, Reagan's press secretary, Larry Speakes, told Stahl, "No questions at all, about anything." Stahl was angered by this, but she soon saw why Speakes had issued this instruction. When she and her family entered the office, the 75-year-old Reagan was standing by a Remington sculpture of a rearing horse, and Stahl immediately began to fret:


Reagan was as shriveled as a kumquat. He was so frail, his skin so paper-thin. I could almost see the sunlight through the back of his withered neck…His eyes were coated. Larry introduced us, but he had to shout. Had Reagan turned off his hearing aid?

…Reagan didn't seem to know who I was. He gave me a distant look with those milky eyes and shook my hand weakly. Oh, my, he's gonzo, I thought. I have to go out on the lawn tonight and tell my countrymen that the president of the United States is a doddering space cadet. My heart began to hammer with the import...I was aware of the delicacy with which I would have to write my script. But I was quite sure of my diagnosis.

Stahl tried to fill the silence, telling Reagan that her daughter used to tell everyone that the president works for her mommy, but after Reagan took office, she started saying that her mother worked for the president.


I wasn't above a little massaging. Was he so out of it that he couldn't appreciate a sweet story that reflected well on him? Guess so. His pupils didn't even dilate. Nothing. No reaction."

to be cont'd..........
carol

Orlando, FL

#819310 Dec 10, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, shoot the messenger. Admitting his father had a disease is destroying his character??
You really are dumber than a box o' rocks!!
At least Ron Reagan was his son, not an adopted kid, as was Michael.
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""How Close Did Lesley Stahl Come to Reporting Reagan Had Alzheimer's While in Office? Very Close.""
""CBS reporter Lesley Stahl may be able to settle the family feud that has erupted between President Ronald Reagan's two sons over an important historical issue: Did the 40th president have Alzheimer's disease when he was in the White House?
In a new memoir, his son Ron suggests that Reagan suffered from the beginning stages of this disease while he was commander in chief, pointing out that his father became "lost and bewildered" during the 1984 presidential debates with Democratic nominee Walter Mondale and that in 1986 Reagan could not remember the names of familiar landmarks. But Ron defends his father, who was not diagnosed with Alzheimer's until 2004, and his aides: "I've seen no evidence that my father (or anyone else) was aware of his medical condition while he was in office. Had the diagnosis been made in, say 1987, would he have stepped down? I believe he would have."
.
Ron Reagan's comments have ticked off his half-brother, Michael Reagan, who was adopted by Ronald Reagan and his wife, actress Jane Wyman, 13 years before Ron was born to Reagan and his second wife, Nancy Reagan. Michael, a firebrand conservative, has slammed Ron for concocting "falsehoods and lies and conspiracy theories to sell books." (Ron and Michael haven't spoken since the reading of the will following their father's death in 2004.) Michael claims there is no evidence his father had developed Alzheimer's while in office: "I saw my father on and off and I never saw anything that looked like that." And the Ronald Reagan Library and Foundation has issued a statement noting that "this subject has been well documented over the years by both President Reagan's personal physicians, physicians who treated him after the diagnosis, as well as those who worked closely with him daily. All are consistent in their view that signs of Alzheimer's did not appear until well after President Reagan left the White House."
But during his second term, Reagan did show worrisome signs of diminished mental capacity, according to Lesley Stahl. In the book she published in 2000, Reporting Live, Stahl recounts a disturbing encounter she had with Reagan in the summer of 1986. Stahl was finishing up a stint as CBS News' White House correspondent, and she was awarded the customary farewell audience with the president. As she, her husband, and her eight-year-old daughter were about to enter the Oval Office, Reagan's press secretary, Larry Speakes, told Stahl, "No questions at all, about anything." Stahl was angered by this, but she soon saw why Speakes had issued this instruction. When she and her family entered the office, the 75-year-old Reagan was standing by a Remington sculpture of a rearing horse, and Stahl immediately began to fret:
Reagan was as shriveled as a kumquat. He was so frail, his skin so paper-thin. I could almost see the sunlight through the back of his withered neck…His eyes were coated. Larry introduced us, but he had to shout. Had Reagan turned off his hearing aid?
…Reagan didn't seem to know who I was. He gave me a distant look with those milky eyes and shook my hand weakly. Oh, my, he's gonzo, I thought. I have to go out on the lawn tonight and tell my countrymen that the president of the United States is a doddering space cadet. My heart began to hammer with the import...I was aware of the delicacy with which I would have to write my script. But I was quite sure of my diagnosis."
cont'd..........
Why do you keep on insisting Ron Reagan is a far left liberal loon?

Who else close to Reagan is saying this? Name just one person. Anyone.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819311 Dec 10, 2012
cont'd

After Stahl mentioned that her husband, Aaron Latham, was a screenwriter, Reagan became animated, and pulled Latham to a couch to discuss a movie idea he had for a film in which he could star. Stahl recalls she was "too astonished to move." A few minutes later, the session was over. Reagan was now beaming, and after Stahl and her family left the Oval Office, Reagan chased after them and told her daughter, "I worked for your mother, too."

In her book, Stahl noted that she "had come that close to reporting that Reagan was senile. I had every intention of telling the American people what I had observed in the Oval Office."

But she didn't. This week, I asked her why not. In an email, she replied,


Because Reagan seemed to "recover"—I decided I could not go out on the White House lawn and tell the public what his behavior meant. So I never did a report.

I was obviously not equipped to interpret what LOOKED like a lapse into semi-awareness. Was it what I had assumed at first: senility? Was it an "act"—a way to avoid answering my questions? Was it some form of dementia (maybe not Alzheimer's)? I decided I couldn't report on my observations at all that night.

Stahl added,


Later, when I would ask White House officials if they had ever seen him float away like that, they’d say yes, but that, as with me, he always pulled himself together. It was confusing for everyone.

Indeed, in her book—published 14 years after she left the White House beat—Stahl noted that after Reagan had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's, she asked one of his chief advisers if Reagan had been senile when he was president. "Maybe there were symptoms," this aide told her, "though I say that in hindsight. He would come to life for the cameras. He was on/off, on/off." Several former Reaganites Stahl spoke to about Reagan's mental conditions brushed aside any suggestion of mental deterioration. "People with Alzheimer's don't take down the Soviet Union," speechwriter Peggy Noonan told Stahl.(Noonan also admitted that she had rarely seen Reagan while working for him.) But another unnamed aide said that the subsequent Alzheimer's diagnosis "explains a lot." He told Stahl:


He tuned out—a lot...People didn't talk about it. People treated him with very special care. You had to explain things in elemental terms, but because he was so likable, everyone had so mush personal regard for him—everyone protected him...He was intellectually vacant, but I never felt the country was in any danger.

Stahl concluded in her book: "I now believe [Reagan aides and his wife Nancy] covered up his condition, and many continued to as they wrote their memoirs. But then, the public knew something wasn't right. There were all sorts of signs. We all looked the other way."

Stahl tells me that she is certain that after that Oval Office encounter with Reagan, she discussed with her producers whether to report on Reagan's mental condition. "I would have to have skirted around the words 'senility,''Alzheimer's,''deme ntia,'" she notes. "I would have been declaring the president unfit to serve, or at least raising the possibility." That undoubtedly would have set off a political detonation. And such a report would have suggested a White House cover-up—at a time when tense foreign policy matters were in the news and midterm elections were a few months off.

Whether or not Stahl made the right call—she seems to believe she should have reported something at the time—the evidence she later gathered indicates that Reagan aides were concerned about his mental condition during his presidency. Perhaps it wasn't Alzheimer's but another health issue. Yet her account and her subsequent reporting suggests Ron Reagan is closer to the truth than Michael Reagan. The Gipper was slipping while he was occupying the most powerful position in the world, and the public was kept in the dark.""

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There ya have it, Lorac.

Reagan was brain dead, just as you are.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#819312 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
<quoted text>
How many bags of popcorn do you shovel into your face while the slaves are thrown to the lions?
(R)utroh---that counts as a fwee food itum LOL

(can't you just year it--send in duh victums-weze wants MO' victums---to SPONGE off'er!!)

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#819313 Dec 10, 2012
cont'd.....

After Stahl mentioned that her husband, Aaron Latham, was a screenwriter, Reagan became animated, and pulled Latham to a couch to discuss a movie idea he had for a film in which he could star. Stahl recalls she was "too astonished to move." A few minutes later, the session was over. Reagan was now beaming, and after Stahl and her family left the Oval Office, Reagan chased after them and told her daughter, "I worked for your mother, too."

In her book, Stahl noted that she "had come that close to reporting that Reagan was senile. I had every intention of telling the American people what I had observed in the Oval Office."

But she didn't. This week, I asked her why not. In an email, she replied,


Because Reagan seemed to "recover"—I decided I could not go out on the White House lawn and tell the public what his behavior meant. So I never did a report.

I was obviously not equipped to interpret what LOOKED like a lapse into semi-awareness. Was it what I had assumed at first: senility? Was it an "act"—a way to avoid answering my questions? Was it some form of dementia (maybe not Alzheimer's)? I decided I couldn't report on my observations at all that night.

Stahl added,


Later, when I would ask White House officials if they had ever seen him float away like that, they’d say yes, but that, as with me, he always pulled himself together. It was confusing for everyone.

Indeed, in her book—published 14 years after she left the White House beat—Stahl noted that after Reagan had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's, she asked one of his chief advisers if Reagan had been senile when he was president. "Maybe there were symptoms," this aide told her, "though I say that in hindsight. He would come to life for the cameras. He was on/off, on/off." Several former Reaganites Stahl spoke to about Reagan's mental conditions brushed aside any suggestion of mental deterioration. "People with Alzheimer's don't take down the Soviet Union," speechwriter Peggy Noonan told Stahl.(Noonan also admitted that she had rarely seen Reagan while working for him.) But another unnamed aide said that the subsequent Alzheimer's diagnosis "explains a lot." He told Stahl:


He tuned out—a lot...People didn't talk about it. People treated him with very special care. You had to explain things in elemental terms, but because he was so likable, everyone had so mush personal regard for him—everyone protected him...He was intellectually vacant, but I never felt the country was in any danger.

Stahl concluded in her book: "I now believe [Reagan aides and his wife Nancy] covered up his condition, and many continued to as they wrote their memoirs. But then, the public knew something wasn't right. There were all sorts of signs. We all looked the other way."

Stahl tells me that she is certain that after that Oval Office encounter with Reagan, she discussed with her producers whether to report on Reagan's mental condition. "I would have to have skirted around the words 'senility,''Alzheimer's,''deme ntia,'" she notes. "I would have been declaring the president unfit to serve, or at least raising the possibility." That undoubtedly would have set off a political detonation. And such a report would have suggested a White House cover-up—at a time when tense foreign policy matters were in the news and midterm elections were a few months off.

Whether or not Stahl made the right call—she seems to believe she should have reported something at the time—the evidence she later gathered indicates that Reagan aides were concerned about his mental condition during his presidency. Perhaps it wasn't Alzheimer's but another health issue. Yet her account and her subsequent reporting suggests Ron Reagan is closer to the truth than Michael Reagan. The Gipper was slipping while he was occupying the most powerful position in the world, and the public was kept in the dark.""

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You lose, Lorac. But then, you always lose!!

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