Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Since: Feb 08

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Dec 9, 2012
 
Nuculur option wrote:
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At least Carol has the courage to fight.
Unlike you, who is a coward who makes potshots from the sideline and asks dumb questions like 'why should rich folks pay a higher tax rate than others'.
The answer is so obvious, it proves what a dunderhead you are.
"nutsucker"
No pot shots, just facts. Facts something you know nothing about, you are BS. To date know one has given an intelligent answer as to why any American should pay a higher Federal Income tax rate than some one else. That's like saying pro0perty taxes should be leveled based on one's income, or sales taxes should be higher on those who earn more.
Do you ever think before you post.
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Dec 9, 2012
 
sonicfilter wrote:
For the third week in a row, 41% of Likely U.S. Voters say the country is heading in the right direction, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey taken the week ending Sunday, December 2.
That's unchanged from the previous two weeks and remains the highest level of optimism during the Obama presidency. The latest finding is up 17 points from the beginning of the year and up 24 points from a year ago.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...
a shrinking 52% see it the other way. a bit short of 65%.
The post-election bump will disappear quickly when the economy crashes.

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Dec 9, 2012
 
carol wrote:
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Whew! Barely dodged THAT bullet.
"carol"
Darn it. Leave. You are proving that "nutsucker" is a liar with every post he makes. He keeps claiming he ran you off, that you are afraid of his intellect, and yet, here you are again. Keep ot up, O am lovin it.
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John Galt

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Note that the stock market is hovering steady at right around 13K?
Still lower than 2007.
John Galt

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Dec 9, 2012
 
Realtime wrote:
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Early dividend payments equal earlier tax collections__maybe a good thing.
For this year, but less next year.

Plus, some companies may defer 2014 dividends until 2015, hoping Obama sees his folly by then.

Leftists always assume that tax policy will not affect human behavior, a huge mistake.
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Dec 9, 2012
 
sonicfilter wrote:
Author and economist Ben Stein joined Fox & Friends on Thursday where he stunned the hosts after he called for raising the tax rates on people making more than $2 million per year. He said that he did not think that the United States simply had a spending problem, and cited the early post-war period as an example of a time when you could have high tax rates and high growth.
“I hate to say this on Fox – I hope I’ll be allowed to leave here alive – but I don’t think there is any way we can cut spending enough to make a meaningful difference,” said Stein.“We’re going to have to raise taxes on very, very rich people. People with incomes of, say,$2,$3,$4 million a year and up. And then slowly, slowly, slowly move it down.$250,000 a year, that’s not a rich person.”
Stein said that the government has a spending problem, but they also have a “too low taxes problem.”
“With all due respect to Fox, who I love like brothers and sisters, taxes are too low,” said Stein.
“That sounds like Bowles-Simpson,” said Gretchen Carlson.
“It is Bowles-Simpson,” Stein replied.
“The evidence is that there is no clear connection between the level of taxation and the level of economic activity,” said Stein.“The biggest growth and prosperity we’ve ever had in this country was from roughly 1941 to 1973. That was the best years we’ve ever had and those were years of much higher taxes than we have now.”
“Taxes were at 70, 80 percent then,” said Steve Doocy.
“And yet, we were very prosperous,” Stein replied.“The highest rate was in the 90s during parts of the 50s, and yet we were very prosperous.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ben-stein-stuns-fo...
Stein just hit the Repubs in the face with facts. There has NEVER been any proof lower taxes create jobs. The Repubs call us blind fools. They use talking points a 7th grade history class could prove wrong within minutes.
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Dec 9, 2012
 
John Galt wrote:
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The post-election bump will disappear quickly when the economy crashes.
are we going over the cliff?

or are you referring to the 4 year old myth?
John Galt

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"nutsucker"
No pot shots, just facts. Facts something you know nothing about, you are BS. To date know one has given an intelligent answer as to why any American should pay a higher Federal Income tax rate than some one else. That's like saying pro0perty taxes should be leveled based on one's income, or sales taxes should be higher on those who earn more.
Do you ever think before you post.
Peace
Not to mention that Nucular is a sockpuppet who refuses to use Demos/Tenzing when talking trash.
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Dec 9, 2012
 
John Galt wrote:
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The post-election bump will disappear quickly when the economy crashes.
When it gets as bad as 2008 get back with us. You know. 726,000 jobs lost per month.
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It had to do with the National Guard being armed because of the violence and looting that was going on.
Do a little research. And not liberal propaganda. You'll see I'm right.
We've discussed it on this thread for going on four years__the National Guard and looting came after the storm hit, Bush failed to respond prior to and during the storm.

Keep in mind that the storm struck three states and dozens of municipalities and BushCo failed them all.

You're wrong__you're always wrong__consistent though.

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Dec 9, 2012
 
Lincoln Duncan wrote:
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Good news for Americans alas sad for tea party
The US added 146,000 jobs in November, official data shows, as the economy seemingly shrugged off storm Sandy.
The unexpectedly strong performance brought the unemployment rate down to
a four-year low of 7.7% of the workforce.
The jobs figure was well above most analysts' expectations and continued a recent surge that begun in July.
Weekly jobs claims registered a sharp but short-lived jump in the number claiming benefits in the states ravaged by the storm last month.
"Lincoln Duncan"
I note you say nothing about the fact 340,000 more American's gave up looking for a job. Think that may have skewed the nimber just a tad. You do realize it takes about 200,000 new jobs per month to keep up with population growth?
Personally I would love to see a period where 250,000 jobs were created each month, than we would see a real decline in the unemployment rate.
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Dec 9, 2012
 
carol wrote:
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Just seemed pointless - just the two of us, I mean.
But I did want to say one more thing - unless things pick back up again before I post this.
Let's all not forget about others this holiday even if we do like to banter about politics on here - as well as throughout the new year.
It's sometimes easy to forget that there are people who are much worse off than we can imagine.
Let's all promise to do something good for those less fortunate than ourselves before the holidays.
The two or three of us on here right now anyway. Hopefully, more of us who might read this later.
Agree - Hope that no ill has fallen any of our posters or their families and that all are enjoying the Christmas Season!
John Galt

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Dec 9, 2012
 
GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>Stein just hit the Repubs in the face with facts. There has NEVER been any proof lower taxes create jobs. The Repubs call us blind fools. They use talking points a 7th grade history class could prove wrong within minutes.
Big difference between $2 million and $250K. A family living in New York or California trying to send kids to college on $250K is far from wealthy.

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Dec 9, 2012
 
GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>Stein just hit the Repubs in the face with facts. There has NEVER been any proof lower taxes create jobs. The Repubs call us blind fools. They use talking points a 7th grade history class could prove wrong within minutes.
The proof is in the pudding over the Bush tax cuts. They were followed by a record 52 straight months of job creation, producing 8 million new jobs, with the unemployment rate falling to 4.4%. Business investment spending, which had declined for 9 straight quarters, reversed and increased 6.7% per quarter, producing all those new jobs.

Because of that increased investment, labor productivity soared by 2.5% annually from 2003 to 2007, higher than the averages of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. As a result, real after tax income per capita increased by more than 11%.

Manufacturing output soared to its highest level in 20 years. The stock market revived, creating almost $7 trillion in new shareholder wealth. From 2003 to 2007, the S&P 500 almost doubled. After the Bush tax cuts started in 2001, quickly ending the 2001 recession, the economy continued to grow for another 73 months. From 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17%, meaning an additional $2.1 trillion for the American people.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
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sonicfilter wrote:
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are we going over the cliff?
or are you referring to the 4 year old myth?
Deficit spending needs to be addressed.

Going over the "fiscal cliff" is an imperfect solution, but better than nothing.

Obama's plan to tax the "wealthy" is a trivial response that is essentially nothing and will accomplish nothing.
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GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>When it gets as bad as 2008 get back with us. You know. 726,000 jobs lost per month.
Hard to lose many jobs now when the workforce has shrunk to such a low level.

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<quoted text>We've discussed it on this thread for going on four years__the National Guard and looting came after the storm hit, Bush failed to respond prior to and during the storm.
Keep in mind that the storm struck three states and dozens of municipalities and BushCo failed them all.
You're wrong__you're always wrong__consistent though.
WASHINGTON — Local officials on Wednesday condemned reports that the White House is considering a storm recovery plan that would lowball New York and other states affected by Hurricane Sandy.

The governors of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut have said they need $82 billion to rebuild after the storm, but the White House hinted Wednesday that it would ask for just $50 billion.

That figure “unfortunately does not meet all of New York and New Jersey’s substantial needs,” New York Sens. Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand said in a joint statement with their Garden State colleagues.

Reps. Pete King (R-L.I.) and Nita Lowey (D-Westchester) called the number “insufficient,” while Rep. Michael Grimm (R-S.I.), whose constituents were among those hardest hit by the storm, said the figure “certainly falls short of our needs.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/puny...

Obama Hurricane Sandy Failure: we are all appalled by the lack of food, gas, water, heat, and the basic essentials of life throughout the storm zone, Obama’s government doesn’t look so good anymore.

http://telcomintl.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/ob...
John Galt

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Dec 9, 2012
 
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>We've discussed it on this thread for going on four years__the National Guard and looting came after the storm hit, Bush failed to respond prior to and during the storm.
Keep in mind that the storm struck three states and dozens of municipalities and BushCo failed them all.
You're wrong__you're always wrong__consistent though.
So, what did Obama do "prior to and during the storm"?

The President cannot call out the National Guard without a request from the Governor.

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John Galt wrote:
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Hard to lose many jobs now when the workforce has shrunk to such a low level.


Bush did it.

I guess you are telling us what a great job destroyer Bush really was. About time you right whiners finally admitted it.

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John Galt wrote:
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So, what did Obama do "prior to and during the storm"?
The President cannot call out the National Guard without a request from the Governor.
FEMA is not the National Guard.

FEMA as ready & in position before the storm struck.

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