Barack Obama, our next President

[sonicfilter]

Is the Sequester or the Public’s Denial the Bigger Problem?

Permit me a stray radical thought or two ...

House Speaker John Boehner says there’s been “no progress” in the budget talks in the past two weeks.

At this moment, Republicans in Congress need to examine which presents a more dire threat to the country:

A) A double-dip recession driven by the sequester and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, or

B) the public’s belief (verified through polling) that our giant debt, our ticking time bomb of entitlements, and our gargantuan government can be solved by “asking the richest Americans to pay a little bit more,” as Obama insists.

Option A is terrible, but Option B is the giant locked door blocking all of the real solutions.

So if we must have tax hikes, let the tax cuts for every income level expire and let everyone of every income level pay higher taxes. Destroy the illusion among so many voters that they can get all the government they want without paying more in taxes.

We hear the sequestration deal described as terrible, but it passed both houses of Congress and was signed into law by President Obama. Everyone knew there was a possibility it would go into effect.

Mitt Romney and Republicans spent much of 2012 talking about how badly sequestration would endanger our national security by cutting defense spending. The American people voted for the man who signed it into law anyway. It is time we all saw the consequences of that.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/3...

[THE DEBIL]

dem wrote:

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i think you forgot to say good morning to me.

MEEEE TOO. WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT MAKING A BEER RUN AT 10:30 ON A SUNDAY MORNING?

[shinningelectr0n]

GhostofRaygun wrote:

<quoted text>I'm sure a few months in re-education camp is going to help you with all this hate.

I'm sure that a 50 Gal Colostomy Bag would help you with the pressure on your brain.

[carol]

TSM wrote:

Obama and the Liberals/Democrats have no intent of solving this Fiscal Cliff Crisis their intention is to use this Crisis against Republicans in 2014 the question will it Work!! Republicans should just walk away leave No Prints!!

The Democrats are working this like a sleezy scam artist. They know if Republicans take a stand against this nonsense, they will be blamed by liberals. They also know that if Republicans cave or walk away, they will possibly be blamed by other republicans.

They're counting on not wasting this continuing and ongoing crisis so they can come out smelling like roses to the easily fooled even though they caused it themselves and can blame someone else another four years.

It's what weasels do.

But a big part of me agrees with you. However, if republicans walk away to leave no fingerprints, they need to get in front of any camera they see for the next four years and make it crystal clear to the American public they went along with what the majority wanted AGAINST their advise and better judgment.

They also need to repeat a much better plan ad nauseum.

If they do both of these things, they cannot be blamed.

[dem]

so i call up top mod 15 and say "dude, how dare one of your minions erase my posts".

15:'my apologies dem.
we have a new automated system that keys in on certain words'

dem: bad words? just english?

15: mostly the real naughty ones Santa wouldn't like. see George Carlin

dem: he's dead. but its becoming clearer.
so you mean to tell me as long as a circumvent that silly fkn machine i can do as i please?

15: yes my lord continue spreading your message.

dem: shots on me.

[sonicfilter]

The Conservative Future
By DAVID BROOKS

If you listened to the Republican candidates this year, you heard a conventional set of arguments. But if you go online, you can find a vibrant and increasingly influential center-right conversation. Most of the young writers and bloggers in this conversation intermingle, but they can be grouped, for clarity’s sake, around a few hot spots:....

.... By and large, these diverse writers did not grow up in the age of Reagan and are not trying to recapture it. They disdain what you might call Donor Base Republicanism. Most important, they matured intellectually within a far-reaching Web-based conversation. In contrast to many members of the conservative political-entertainment complex, they are data-driven, empirical and low-key in tone.

They are united more by a style of feedback and mutual scrutiny than by a common agenda. Some politically unorthodox people in this conversation, such as Josh Barro of Bloomberg View, Meghan Clyne of National Affairs and Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute, specialize in puncturing sentimentality and groupthink.

Since Nov. 6, the G.O.P. has experienced an epidemic of open-mindedness. The party may evolve quickly. If so, it’ll be powerfully influenced by people with names like Reihan, Ramesh, Yuval and Derek Khanna.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/20/opinion/bro...

no mention of any FOX talking heads.

no doubt.

[carol]

dem wrote:

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i think you forgot to say good morning to me.

A thousand pardons. Good morning.

[Yeah]

carol wrote:

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Do winning presidents also say in their victory speeches they will be sitting down with the losing opponent in the weeks ahead to talk about how to move this country forward?
Thought Obama knew how to do that. He won. Why is he interested in Romney's input? He certainly isn't interested in any other republicans' input.

lol! Because cons can't claim they weren't part of the process.

They're still viewed as being obstructionist and they have 2 years to change the public's perception on that.

As of today, I don't think they're capable of that... too much politics for them to change any of their stripes!

[carol]

shinningelectr0n wrote:

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It's a trick, a ploy, carol. The Boy Messiah's trying to put pressure on the Republican House holding his free money/drugs. "See?" he says "I'm making kissy-Poo with Romney. I'm trying to compromise".
The snake keeps hissing.

The dems sure kissed up to big pharmacy to get that monstrosity they call health care reform passed.

[dem]

THE DEBIL wrote:

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MEEEE TOO. WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT MAKING A BEER RUN AT 10:30 ON A SUNDAY MORNING?

I live in the third largest city in the ole US and they dont sell alcohol till noon on Sundays?
Indiana not all day...
And yet Florida sells suds on sunday?

[shinningelectr0n]

Impeach Obama wrote:

<quoted text>They organize and oversee the recovery effort. They haven't organized anything because a majority of people there are white Republicans.

I wonder how many lawyers are going to be cleaning up after the FEMA mess?

Hey! Maybe the Boy Messiah could get suzzie rice to take over FEMA. All she'd have to do is go lie on 6 TV Newstalk shows and we can all go home!

[THE DEBIL]

shinningelectr0n wrote:

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Why ask the patient what their diagnosis is?
Ask the doctor, instead.

NO POINT IN PAYIN' SOMEBODY TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. MAKE YOU WONDER WHY YOU'D TITHE TO THE CHURCH... UNLESS YOU TRYIN' TO BUY YOU WAY IN?

[Yeah]

Impeach Obama wrote:

<quoted text>The people who voted him in by a very slim margin could care less about his plan. They only voted for him because he's black. That's the ONLY reason he ever got elected to anything. If he was white he'd have never even been elected Senator.

lol! So... the people who voted for Romney is because he's white?

Wow.

And here I thought they voted for Obama because he's Christian and this is a Christian country... well, at least that's what the cons were saying!

They're such a mixed up bunch!

[THE DEBIL]

DID THAT DUMB BITCH JUS' CALL US WEASELS? WELL... I BEEN CALLED WORSE I GUESS?

[Yeah]

carol wrote:

Republicans couldn't have been any more clear they were ready to sit down and compromise.
Obama sent Geithner to deliver his decree - I mean, plan - and then took off again somewhere.
Point to any president in history who, in a time of crisis, didn't sit down with the opposition to negotiate a deal that would be acceptable to both sides.
You won't find one. This is the only one. He always has more important things to do.

lol! Son, if that's the best they can do, it's because they've already used the same claim so many times with nothing to show for it.

It's clear to Americans the obstructionist are the republicans... only they can't see it!

[Yeah]

Chicagoan by Birth wrote:

<quoted text>That the best you have, Yeahoo? You better start paying, you're proximity to Red China is closer than mine. Whose Administration added more to the debt than any of the previous Administrations? Why that would be the Barack Hussein Obama Administration?? Even Terrible Timmy Geithner couldn't stop these spend thrifts? He's on Fox right now, making excuses?? He even lies with a straight face??

lol! So.... you're willing to sell US subs to China now son?

wow.

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TUCKER CARLSON AND NEIL PATEL: Congress should dive headlong off fiscal cliff

Everyone in Washington fears the fiscal cliff. The White House has no interest in going over. Democrats understand they’ll never have more power than they do now. Delaying a budget deal until after January means getting less of what they want.

Republican leaders, meanwhile, live in fear of another 1995 government shutdown. When two sides fail to reach a deal, the media blame Republicans. That’s the lesson Republicans learned 17 years ago. They shudder imagining the headlines if negotiations were to break down next month:“Norquist-controlled GOP forces America off cliff.” Nothing terrifies them more than that. They’ll do anything to avoid it, as Obama knows well.(Hence his advantage.)

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/30/tucker-carl...

[Lily Boca Raton Fl]

Realtime wrote:

The Golden Rule
Due to the UN vote Israel is withholding the transfers of tax revenues to the Palestinian districts and is pushing ahead with settlements in the disputed areas.

Quel surpris!

[shinningelectr0n]

GhostofRaygun wrote:

<quoted text>NO. FEMA provides emergency food and shelter. They cannot force electric companies to work faster.
Here is the mandate of FEMA:
While on-the-ground support of disaster recovery efforts is a major part of FEMA's charter, the agency provides state and local governments with experts in specialized fields and funding for rebuilding efforts and relief funds for infrastructure by directing individuals to access low interest loans, in conjunction with the Small Business Administration. In addition to this, FEMA provides funds for training of response personnel throughout the United States and its territories as part of the agency's preparedness effort.

Sure sounds a lot like "They organize and oversee the recovery effort".

How stupid can you get? Trying for a record?

[Yeah]

Chicagoan by Birth wrote:

<quoted text>Ain't it the truth? We're seeing now just how experienced this guy is running anything, Bet his wife doesn't let him touch the family checkbook??

lol! Which is a lot better than the flip flopper Romney!