Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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the_rac_on_teur

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Dec 3, 2012
 
Bad Bush...

{Ralph Nader: President Obama’s a ‘war criminal’}

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/816...
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Dec 3, 2012
 
sonicfilter wrote:
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Just to be clear, the Medicare drug benefit was a pure giveaway with a gross cost greater than either the House or Senate health reform bills how being considered. Together the new bills would cost roughly $900 billion over the next 10 years, while Medicare Part D will cost $1 trillion.
Moreover, there is a critical distinction--the drug benefit had no dedicated financing, no offsets and no revenue-raisers; 100% of the cost simply added to the federal budget deficit, whereas the health reform measures now being debated will be paid for with a combination of spending cuts and tax increases, adding nothing to the deficit over the next 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/19/republican-b...
It must be try again day. Or a 'carol' if you like.
reading 'forbes' are we...

Checking out what the rich people think?
sonicfilter

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Dec 3, 2012
 
Republicans, welcome to the reality-based community

Defeat has shattered the US right's impenetrable front on tax and healthcare. The party's pragmatists are finding their voice

"If you beat your head against the wall," the Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci once wrote, "it is your head that breaks, not the wall."

On election night Morris's head exploded, leaving shards of baseless braggadocio scattered across cyberspace. Reality will do that, sooner or later. For Republicans it has been later. For some time now they have been bingeing on everything from climate change denial to creationism. But in the last four years they outdid themselves with birtherism and death panels, insisting Obama was a Kenyan imposter imposing European values. Believing they were entitled to their own facts, they started to believe their own spin. Morris was merely the most bullish illustration of a broader derangement. The rot went all the way to the top. On election night Romney had $25,000-worth of fireworks all ready to launch on the Boston Harbor and a transition team of 200 waiting in the wings.

Finally it appears defeat has sobered some of them up, forcing a rift between those willing to engage with the world as it is and others who prefer dystopian visions, woven from whole cloth. Over the past few years Republicans presented a united, impenetrable front guided by the latter. Now the party's pragmatists, who laid low for fear of Tea Party retribution, seem to be slowly finding their voice.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/...
Aphelion

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Dec 3, 2012
 
sonicfilter wrote:
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The CEO Bankruptcy Bonus
Firms Sidestep Rule Limiting Rewards for Executives
.....in the past few years, some corporations have found perfectly legal ways to escape federal strictures on bonus pay during bankruptcy cases.
Companies now craft "incentive" plans—rewards that put their compensation programs outside the 2005 law's purview. These plans pay executives if they hit certain performance targets, including exiting bankruptcy protection quickly.
The Justice Department often objects to these plans, as do labor unions angered by the juxtaposition of bonuses for executives with cuts to rank-and-file jobs and benefits.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405311...
Try again.
Again these terms are negotiated at the time of hire for CEO's and the like. Want the same perks? Get an education and earn it. Or you can continue to man the fryer at McDonalds. Your choice
Aphelion

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Dec 3, 2012
 
sonicfilter wrote:
Recall the situation in 2003. The Bush administration was already projecting the largest deficit in American history--$475 billion in fiscal year 2004, according to the July 2003 mid-session budget review. But a big election was coming up that Bush and his party were desperately fearful of losing. So they decided to win it by buying the votes of America's seniors by giving them an expensive new program to pay for their prescription drugs.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/19/republican-b...
Would this be like the way that Obama bought the votes of the losers in this country by offering more government handouts?

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The question is are you going to shed a tear for the tortured women and children in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait.
I didn't have a problem going into Bosnia for humanitarian reasons.
Should I? Is that "tear" for the ones that we killed or the ones somebody else killed?

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Dec 3, 2012
 
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That's actually not true. The polls - all of them - indicated Romney had a momentum and was leading right before Hurricane Sandy.
That's what Fox told you anyways and their never wrong ...
sonicfilter

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Again these terms are negotiated at the time of hire for CEO's and the like. Want the same perks? Get an education and earn it. Or you can continue to man the fryer at McDonalds. Your choice
Your inference sounds much like those who show up on this thread after they've watched the millionaire talking heads on FOX act like a higher taxes on the rich is problem we should all be concerned about.

Because you evidently must be one of those same kind of hypocrites. So how did you make you first million? Maybe that college degree from a high priced Ive League college did the trick? Or did your daddy buy you a degree?

want some help with that one leg you're standing on before it gets knocked out from under you?
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Dec 3, 2012
 
Aphelion wrote:
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Would this be like the way that Obama bought the votes of the losers in this country by offering more government handouts?
Does that 'offer' fall within the conservative citation of 'everybody knows'?

Not one of you has yet to direct me to the everybody knows site. But than even the nutjobs know better then to cite FOX.
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Dec 3, 2012
 
the_rac_on_teur wrote:
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reading 'forbes' are we...
Checking out what the rich people think?
So what do the rich people think? Should I watch FOX this evening for clarification?
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Dec 3, 2012
 
Fox Wins Straw-Man Argument Against Taxing Millionaires At 100 Percent

Fox News is distorting President Obama's economic agenda by pushing the straw-man argument that taxing the entirety of millionaires' incomes would fund the government for less than three months. In fact, Obama has proposed no such thing, and this Republican talking point obscures the billions in revenue that would be generated from letting the Bush tax cuts expire for wealthy households.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/09/24/f...
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sonicfilter wrote:
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Just to be clear, the Medicare drug benefit was a pure giveaway with a gross cost greater than either the House or Senate health reform bills how being considered. Together the new bills would cost roughly $900 billion over the next 10 years, while Medicare Part D will cost $1 trillion.
Moreover, there is a critical distinction--the drug benefit had no dedicated financing, no offsets and no revenue-raisers; 100% of the cost simply added to the federal budget deficit, whereas the health reform measures now being debated will be paid for with a combination of spending cuts and tax increases, adding nothing to the deficit over the next 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/19/republican-b...
It must be try again day. Or a 'carol' if you like.
Imagine if they didn't have it capped, and without people CONTRIBUTING to it!!!

MORE programs need to be like that-beats the 'ell out of TOO many fweeriders taking OUT-and NOT putting enough back in!!!

Your turn lol.
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Dec 3, 2012
 
flack wrote:
April 13 2036
Flack starting a betting pool? Geez Flack-talk about contributing to delinquency of the delusional "get wich quick" minorminded....
TheIndependentMa jority

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Aphelion wrote:
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Again these terms are negotiated at the time of hire for CEO's and the like. Want the same perks? Get an education and earn it. Or you can continue to man the fryer at McDonalds. Your choice
Telling ya--Not in the current economy doood----now get away-I saw that can first lol.
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sonicfilter wrote:
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Your inference sounds much like those who show up on this thread after they've watched the millionaire talking heads on FOX act like a higher taxes on the rich is problem we should all be concerned about.
Because you evidently must be one of those same kind of hypocrites. So how did you make you first million? Maybe that college degree from a high priced Ive League college did the trick? Or did your daddy buy you a degree?
want some help with that one leg you're standing on before it gets knocked out from under you?
Sounds like you’re jealous. Angry because daddy’s janitor job would not pay for your education. So you blame those who you “believe” are better off. You’re just another lost soul, angry at the world because you have realized that you are either too stupid or unmotivated to become a success yourself.
Aphelion

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Does that 'offer' fall within the conservative citation of 'everybody knows'?
Not one of you has yet to direct me to the everybody knows site. But than even the nutjobs know better then to cite FOX.
Naw ... it falls under liberal losers looking for someone else to carry thier burden
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Fox Wins Straw-Man Argument Against Taxing Millionaires At 100 Percent
Fox News is distorting President Obama's economic agenda by pushing the straw-man argument that taxing the entirety of millionaires' incomes would fund the government for less than three months. In fact, Obama has proposed no such thing, and this Republican talking point obscures the billions in revenue that would be generated from letting the Bush tax cuts expire for wealthy households.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/09/24/f...
More sad rhetoric from the left. Tax the evil rich and give the money to the righteous poor. You guys seem to be far more familiar with FOX news that those who you accuse of watching it. Once again HYPOCRITE thy name is liberal.
sonicfilter

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TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Imagine if they didn't have it capped, and without people CONTRIBUTING to it!!!
MORE programs need to be like that-beats the 'ell out of TOO many fweeriders taking OUT-and NOT putting enough back in!!!
Your turn lol.
Freeriders? like Big Pharma??

Give anyone something for nothing and they will keep on taking it. That is the result Big Pharma was hoping for when it bribed Republicans and the former President George W. Bush to pass a massive unfunded drug liability for taxpayers. And a new study of the statistics1 proves the point – seniors are more than happy to pop Big Pharma pills ad nauseum, while the rest of America foots the bill.

http://www.wellnessresources.com/freedom/arti...

well....get to it. i don't have all day.

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If I earned $250K, my tax rate would not go up under Obama.
You f*cking dumbasses have no clue how income taxes are calculated.
Davey Boie, you're $15912.00 taxed at 10% would be $1591.20, send it in.
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More sad rhetoric from the left. Tax the evil rich and give the money to the righteous poor. You guys seem to be far more familiar with FOX news that those who you accuse of watching it. Once again HYPOCRITE thy name is liberal.
Fox Undermines Its Own Defense Of The Wealthy

Fox broke from its usual narrative by reporting that over the last 43 years the net worth of the wealthy has "skyrocketed," pointing to this as a rationale for President Obama's call to allow past tax cuts for the wealthy to expire. Previously, Fox has manufactured the notion of a high tax burden on the wealthiest Americans, in order to attack Obama for wanting to let these cuts expire.

During a Fox & Friends Sunday segment co-host Clayton Morris attempted to use a study on household net worth to attack President Obama's plan to end the Bush-era tax cuts on the wealthy. But during the segment, co-host Alisyn Camerota, citing the study, reported that median net worth is the "lowest it has been in decades" but for "the top 1 percent, the net worth has skyrocketed" going up 71 percent during the period analyzed. Camerota noted that the discrepancy in net worth is one reason that Obama has proposed returning the top marginal tax rates for high-income earners to their previous level.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/12/02/fox-u...

Obama will raise taxes on the rich in the interest of fairness.

And he will get what he wants one way or the other.

Over the cliff will work. At this point most of the 'thinking' conservatives agree. What a ride that will be.

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