Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Hyperbole among GOP lawmakers and the anguished pundit class reached epic proportions this week as Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner presented the president's proposal to address the looming tax increases and spending cuts set to kick in, if a deal is not reached by January.

GOP Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell, warned that the president's proposal takes us backward, moving us "significantly closer to the cliff." Anonymous Republican aides were immediately dispatched to trash the proposal of revenue increases and spending cuts as "a joke," "an insult" and "a complete break from reality."

These remarks, coming on the heels of a sound rejection of Mitt Romney's fidelity to America's 1%, indicate that the ones suffering from a break with reality are the Republicans deaf to the mandate of this election. Their delusional commitment to eviscerating social insurance programs -- Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid -- while allowing the rich to get richer shows a remarkable disconnect from the shared experience of most Americans.

Decades of underinvestment in our country by the wealthy class, two Bush wars paid for on credit, and an unrestrained culture on Wall Street that treated the economy like a poorly run casino has unarguably left America strapped for cash. The only question at hand is whether we'll finally be treated to genuine accountability and sound fiscal policy in this deal.

Not if the Republicans get their way. Their endless exaggeration of the certain doom that awaits us on the other side of the fiscal cliff is intended once again to force middle class and poor Americans to accept yet one more bum deal so that the wealthy don't have to budge an inch. But this time, they do so at their own political peril.

The social divide that has enabled their antics is becoming perilously unbalanced. A full 60% of Americans support letting the Bush-era tax cuts expire for those making over $250,000 a year. This includes 63% of Independents. On the spending side, polls show that most Americans don't want to raise the eligibility age for Medicare.

The polling jury is less clear on the question of Medicaid, the program that serves a population that is disproportionately young, disproportionately female and disproportionately people of color. By definition, these people are poor. This is the population that has suffered the most in an economic recession.

But instead of putting genuine effort into ways to help millions of Americans, some in the GOP chose to demonize them as freeloaders. While scapegoating and race baiting might dent the polling popularity of Medicaid, it won't change the fact that slashing these services will mean the difference between eating and starving, having rent and being homeless. And cutting social security won't change the fact that many elderly Americans depend on the fund for 90% of their income.

At a time when economic inequality is the highest it's been since the Great Depression and federal tax rates are lower than they were under Ronald Reagan, the party that fails to support the will of the people will pay a price.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/01/opinion/hogue-f...
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On Thursday, President Obama made his opening bid in the closely watched negotiations to keep the U.S. from slipping over the "fiscal cliff" ó the nickname for steep tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to automatically take effect starting Jan. 1. Republicans weren't impressed. On behalf of Obama, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner proposed to Republican leaders $1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years,$50 billion in immediate infrastructure spending, an end to automatic congressional control over the debt ceiling, and $400 billion in Medicare savings. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) tells The Weekly Standard that he "burst into laughter" in front of Geithner, while House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) complained that Obama didn't offer any details on spending and entitlement cuts, showing he's not serious. "Listen, this is not a game," Boehner said. "Jobs are on the line. The American economy is on the line."

This tells us two things about how negotiations are going, says Ezra Klein at The Washington Post. One, they are not going well ó "when one side begins leaking the other side's proposals, that's typically a bad sign." The bigger point is that "Republicans are frustrated at the new Obama they're facing: The Obama who refuses to negotiate with himself." In his first term, Obama would propose a plan that "roughly tracked where he thought the compromise should end up," and Republicans would ask for more. This time, Obama's making the GOP set out their terms, so each side can claim some wins in the final deal. So, "the next question is obvious: What's their offer?"

http://theweek.com/article/index/237160/the-f...
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Hyperbole among GOP lawmakers and the anguished pundit class reached epic proportions this week as Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner presented the president's proposal to address the looming tax increases and spending cuts set to kick in, if a deal is not reached by January.
GOP Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell, warned that the president's proposal takes us backward, moving us "significantly closer to the cliff." Anonymous Republican aides were immediately dispatched to trash the proposal of revenue increases and spending cuts as "a joke," "an insult" and "a complete break from reality."
These remarks, coming on the heels of a sound rejection of Mitt Romney's fidelity to America's 1%, indicate that the ones suffering from a break with reality are the Republicans deaf to the mandate of this election. Their delusional commitment to eviscerating social insurance programs -- Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid -- while allowing the rich to get richer shows a remarkable disconnect from the shared experience of most Americans.
Decades of underinvestment in our country by the wealthy class, two Bush wars paid for on credit, and an unrestrained culture on Wall Street that treated the economy like a poorly run casino has unarguably left America strapped for cash. The only question at hand is whether we'll finally be treated to genuine accountability and sound fiscal policy in this deal.
Not if the Republicans get their way. Their endless exaggeration of the certain doom that awaits us on the other side of the fiscal cliff is intended once again to force middle class and poor Americans to accept yet one more bum deal so that the wealthy don't have to budge an inch. But this time, they do so at their own political peril.
The social divide that has enabled their antics is becoming perilously unbalanced. A full 60% of Americans support letting the Bush-era tax cuts expire for those making over $250,000 a year. This includes 63% of Independents. On the spending side, polls show that most Americans don't want to raise the eligibility age for Medicare.
The polling jury is less clear on the question of Medicaid, the program that serves a population that is disproportionately young, disproportionately female and disproportionately people of color. By definition, these people are poor. This is the population that has suffered the most in an economic recession.
But instead of putting genuine effort into ways to help millions of Americans, some in the GOP chose to demonize them as freeloaders. While scapegoating and race baiting might dent the polling popularity of Medicaid, it won't change the fact that slashing these services will mean the difference between eating and starving, having rent and being homeless. And cutting social security won't change the fact that many elderly Americans depend on the fund for 90% of their income.
At a time when economic inequality is the highest it's been since the Great Depression and federal tax rates are lower than they were under Ronald Reagan, the party that fails to support the will of the people will pay a price.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/01/opinion/hogue-f...
They haven't learned a damn thing.
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Fiscal Cliff Fictions: Letís All Agree to Pretend the GOP Isnít Full of It

Itís really amazing to see political reporters dutifully passing along Republican complaints that President Obamaís opening offer in the fiscal cliff talks is just a recycled version of his old plan, when those same reporters spent the last year dutifully passing along Republican complaints that Obama had no plan. Itís even more amazing to see them pass along Republican outrage that Obama isnít cutting Medicare enough, in the same matter-of-fact tone they used during the campaign to pass along Republican outrage that Obama was cutting Medicare.

http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/30/fiscal-c...
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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I'm not familiar with Buddy Dyer, but look forward to a Democratic governor for Florida next time, hope he's dynamic, Alex Sink was a little dull. Didn't read about that Jindal vouncher story, but, that's good news. The public school system in Lousiana is a sad story. Friends who used to live there say that everyone sends their children to private schools. The public schools are only for the poorest of the poor. It's not right.
Not sure about dynamic but he's slippery and likeable enough to govern this state with a positive result.

He delivered the Orlando electorate to his pal Da Bammy while Rubio and the other TeaParty mutts delivered diddly squat!

Jindal is a disciple of Jeb Bush's "education as an industry" plan. That concept might eventually work__particularly in Shitsville USA, but it's way too early IMO.
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Republicans couldn't have been any more clear they were ready to sit down and compromise.
Obama sent Geithner to deliver his decree - I mean, plan - and then took off again somewhere.
Point to any president in history who, in a time of crisis, didn't sit down with the opposition to negotiate a deal that would be acceptable to both sides.
You won't find one. This is the only one. He always has more important things to do.
He met w/ GOP leaders 10 days ago, you moron.
The GOP has no interest in what's best for the country.
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They haven't learned a damn thing.
the lesson is not over.
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Wasn't "medicare cuts" the noose you loony left wingers hung around ryans neck?
Another moron. Ryan's plan replaced Medicare with a voucher.
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the lesson is not over.
It's just beginning.

;) and the little dog laughed...
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<quoted text>Not sure about dynamic but he's slippery and likeable enough to govern this state with a positive result.
He delivered the Orlando electorate to his pal Da Bammy while Rubio and the other TeaParty mutts delivered diddly squat!
Jindal is a disciple of Jeb Bush's "education as an industry" plan. That concept might eventually work__particularly in Shitsville USA, but it's way too early IMO.
I don't trust Jeb Bush for a minute with education funds. It's a way to steal; too many of these alternative schools, etc. have just closed, up and left the students high and dry. It's an opportunity for people to go into the private school business, but where is the oversight? Many of these schools sell a dream and charge huge tuitions and then the parents find out that they are not even accredited. Seems shady to me.
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WHAT IS IT WITH YOU WOMEN AND WORMS? YOU'D THINK YOU LIKED TO FISH?
Shrimp make better bait lol
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<quoted text>HomiNy you stupid hillbilly slutto__unless you're referring to the book or the Ocala Florida publisher.
Nothing wrong with a 10:30 AM Sunday beer run__when you're low, you're low eh? Better than waiting until you've worked your way through a couple dozen and decide it's time.
Yew aint never yeard a penguin speak regular has you.

Brainless worm number two o' the day
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<quoted text>It's just beginning.
;) and the little dog laughed...
Poll of 2014 Democratic primary: Charlie Crist 61%, Alex Sink 25%

The first Florida-based poll conducted since the close of the Democratic National Convention shows former governor Charlie Crist lapping the prospective field of Democratic candidates eyeing the 2014 gubernatorial race.

Crist is the top choice of 61% of likely Democratic voters, followed by former Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink with 25% support. Orlando mayor Buddy Dyer comes in at 7%, state Senator Nan Rich at 3.5% and Florida Democratic Party chair Rod Smith at 3.4%.

This is interesting; Charlie Crist, 61%!

http://saintpetersblog.com/2012/09/poll-of-20...
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Deal or No Deal

NRís editors have a pretty pessimistic take on the fiscal-cliff talks. If no deal emerges, then Republicans have two options. The high-risk one is to pass an extension of all the tax cuts, watch Senate Democrats block it, watch tax rates rise for everyone, and try to blame Obama and the Democrats for this result. The low-risk one is to pass an extension of the middle-class tax cuts, which presumably the Democrats would have to pass, and watch taxes for high earners rise. That way at least Republicans wouldnít get blamed for middle-class tax increases.

That second option isnít great. But itís better than some of the possible deals Iíve been reading and hearing about.

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SO, UM, NANOWHATEVER, WHICH STRUGGLE IS IT ALL ABOUT? WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU IF I TOLD YOU THERE WASN'T ONE? NO, I SUPPOSE NOT. YOU'VE MADE UP YOU MIND USING THE LIMITED RESOURCES AT HAND. SO, UM, STRUGGLE ON... TALLY HO!
If there was no struggle we would all still be living in caves eating raw meat and screwing our siblings. Kinda like you.

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Grasshoppers and crawdads are free fresh from the field and creek. I hate the way worms feel when they wiggle.
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I don't trust Jeb Bush for a minute with education funds. It's a way to steal; too many of these alternative schools, etc. have just closed, up and left the students high and dry. It's an opportunity for people to go into the private school business, but where is the oversight? Many of these schools sell a dream and charge huge tuitions and then the parents find out that they are not even accredited. Seems shady to me.
Agree, we just had another charter school go bust up here__principal and husband collected a million buck$ in less than 4 years before abandoning the place.

NorthStar High School Orlando___orlandosentinel.com

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<quoted text>Dude get OFF THE NARCOTICS!, GET HELP SOON. REAL SOON BEFORE YOU HURT YOURSELF OR WORSE, SOMEONE ELSE.
I suspect he was rebuking the image reflected off his screen.
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<quoted text>If there was no struggle we would all still be living in caves eating raw meat and screwing our siblings. Kinda like you.
OHHHHHH, NO, YOU'RE NOT GETTING OFF THAT EASY. WHAT YOU'RE ARGUING IS THAT IF ONE "STRUGGLES" HARD ENOUGH YOU GET A CAVE FROM THE LIMITED SUPPLY AVAILABLE. THE CURRENCY IN YOUR HYPOTHESIS IS THE STRUGGLE. THE VERY ACT OF "STRUGGLING" IS WHAT YOU WISH TO BE REWARDED FOR. NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU DEMAND THAT NON-STRUGGLERS BE PUNISHED BY - IN THIS CASE - NOT GETTING A CAVE. YOU DON'T NEED TO EAT MEAT AT ALL, IT'S NOT NECESSARY SO THAT'S NO ARGUMENT AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT PLANET YOU LIVE ON BUT "SCREWING YOUR SIBLINGS" IN NOT A PROBLEM IN NATURE NOR IT IS POPULAR EXCEPT IN RURAL AMERICA; FOR ONE THING THERE IS SUCH A WEALTH OF WOMEN WITHOUT CAVES OUT THERE. SO THAT MEANS YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT FOR YOUR BELOVED CIVILIZATION IS NO MORE THAN AN ISSUE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF REAL ESTATE. ARE WE SURE THAT'S THE POSITION YOU WANT TO TAKE BEFORE I FUCK YOU UP THE ASS LIKE THE WHINEY LITTLE BABY YOU IS?
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Poll of 2014 Democratic primary: Charlie Crist 61%, Alex Sink 25%
The first Florida-based poll conducted since the close of the Democratic National Convention shows former governor Charlie Crist lapping the prospective field of Democratic candidates eyeing the 2014 gubernatorial race.
Crist is the top choice of 61% of likely Democratic voters, followed by former Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink with 25% support. Orlando mayor Buddy Dyer comes in at 7%, state Senator Nan Rich at 3.5% and Florida Democratic Party chair Rod Smith at 3.4%.
This is interesting; Charlie Crist, 61%!
http://saintpetersblog.com/2012/09/poll-of-20...
LOL, I wonder which part of Chaingang Charlies hometown that poll came from??? Crist has the clout of John Morgan behind him__Alex Sink has the clout of Holland and Knight but Buddy Dyer is a very likable, very slippery, Clintonesque giterdone kinda guy who "wins." And he once beat the sht out of an ornery pit bull__no foolin.

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