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Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#814263 Nov 30, 2012
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
No Iraq war.
No debt enhancing tax cuts
Maybe no 9-11 (Gore wouldn't have throw the Hart Rudman report in the trash)
No recession.
I think I just whacked about 10 trillion off the debt.
Elections do matter &the Bush election was a turning point.
Each & every one of you Bush voters helped cause the mess we are in.
You have no way of knowing that so you conjecture is pure bullshit. I could just as easily say it would be much worse. Which would be bullshit as well. Coulda, woulda, shoulda is for children.
Mitt Wrongney

El Monte, CA

#814264 Nov 30, 2012
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>
Same damn thing.
Might want to pluck your own eyes out there-loser.
I HAVE a life--that I am quite content with.
Must suck to be YOU. Glad I am NOT, anyting like-ones like yew-GHETTO RAT.
the only loser here will be you who lives off the poor, i may say i have a better life than yours by being in the medical field and wiping asses like yours when needed, glad i am not a wrong wing nut out of his mind.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#814265 Nov 30, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush wasn't the only culprit in getting us in this mess. As long as politicians on both sides are indebted up to their armpits to special interests, you can count on mismanagement and corruption being SOP.
So which alternative to the two sides of the aisle did you vote for in '12?

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#814266 Nov 30, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
United States corporate profits reached a record high in the third quarter of this year, even adjusted for inflation, according to a report from the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/29/...
Wages aren’t stagnating, they’re plummeting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
good news for the 1%, bad for the rest.
just the usual.
You are being disingenuous.

" Additionally, all of the growth in domestic corporate profits was accounted for by the financial sector."
Jane Says

New York, NY

#814267 Nov 30, 2012
flack wrote:
<quoted text> No it did not. This is where your brainwashing kicks in. What it means is the government is not taking $30K more of your money. It does not belong to the government in the first place so the government cannot give it to you. To imply that the government does in fact own everything is a very dangerous road to travel.
You see the word 'give' is where you go wrong.
Your last sentence perfectly illustrates the mindset of the RealDave types and the wrong direction society is headed.

Victor Davis Hanse describes the liberal mindset perfectly:

'Equality of result -
Keen minds from Aristotle to Montesquieu and Tocqueville have lamented that the proverbial people sometimes prefer equality under authoritarianism to inequality accompanied by personal freedom.

As long as there was grinding poverty, the liberal agenda of “leveling the playing field” made sense enough — Social Security, disability insurance, the 40-hour work week, and Medicare.

But once modern mass production and consumption arose, energized by globalization and the entry of billions of new foreign workers into the equation, and high technology extended the appurtenances of the aristocracy to the poor (today’s ubiquitous smart phone is 100 times more versatile than yesterday’s $3,000 primitive suitcase cell phone), how could you keep promoting government-sponsored equality for the less well-off?

Ensure no one has to drive a Kia? Petition on behalf of those who do not yet have an iPad?

Weighing over 250 pounds, not rickets, is a national plague. Riots target sneaker stores, not food bins. Sandra Fluke naturally become the epitome of frustrated liberal-mandated equality. We are to believe that an upscale white law student, who by choice enrolls at a Catholic university, is deprived because her university will not pay for her condoms or abortion pills. Her cell phone no doubt costs more than a year’s supply of prophylactics. The result is psychodrama, not class struggle, as liberals strain to find ways in which America is Les Misérables rather than the Kardashians, plagued by this obsession to step in and make everyone (except themselves) the same.

Voters -
Romney almost forfeited the election when a video was leaked about his honest, though inexact, admission that 47% of Americans would, by needs, be unsympathetic to any agenda that cut spending and taxes, given their dependence on government “stuff.”

Borrowing money to pay for more entitlements for the liberal mind is good politics, killing two birds with the proverbial one stone. The less well-off are indebted to those who gave them subsidized food, health care, shelter, even cell phones and will vote accordingly to ensure the liberal political class remains in power.

And as deficits grow, the calls for higher taxes on those who “didn’t build that business” and are “fat cats” and never knew when they should stop profiting only increase. Liberalism is about power and influence, impossible without millions of dependent constituents.'

http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/why-libe...
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#814268 Nov 30, 2012
Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
In the US in 2001 you stood a three times greater chance of death by drowning than by act of terror. Don't forget swimming pools.
We are thinking about getting a hot tub, maybe I'll declare a pre-emptive war in it before it drowns me.
krissy

Tacoma, WA

#814269 Nov 30, 2012
flack wrote:
<quoted text> I don't vote party. I vote for the person I think is going to screw me the least.
So did your wife get any other votes?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#814270 Nov 30, 2012
Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
USA Fender Tele myself.
Hey, last four of my SSN
Sweet, if you can round us up a drummer, I think we've got us a band. Of course we'll have a rightwinger on bass so I dunno if that's gonna fly.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#814271 Nov 30, 2012
flack wrote:
<quoted text> You have no way of knowing that so you conjecture is pure bullshit. I could just as easily say it would be much worse. Which would be bullshit as well. Coulda, woulda, shoulda is for children.
Yeah but we all know how 8 years of Bush turned out. You said yourself you voted for Clinton twice, what makes you think Gore wouldn't have continued down the same path as Clinton? Just think Flack debt free by 2013.

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#814272 Nov 30, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Bush, unfunded wars, Bush, Republicans, Bush, unfunded tax cuts, Bush, Democrats going along with Bush and the Republicans
Why are all you loony left wingers pretending like 9/11 never happened?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#814273 Nov 30, 2012
flack wrote:
<quoted text> You are the one playing the semantics game not me. Was my bank account larger? Yes Why was it larger? Because the government wasn't taking as much of MY MONEY.
So bottom line you don't want to pay any taxes but you want a 6 trillion dollar war on terror. Yep, you are a Republican.
carol

Orlando, FL

#814275 Nov 30, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>We are thinking about getting a hot tub, maybe I'll declare a pre-emptive war in it before it drowns me.
Is this funny or what, Homer?

http://entertainment.msn.com/videopreview/...

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#814276 Nov 30, 2012
flack wrote:
<quoted text> You have no way of knowing that so you conjecture is pure bullshit. I could just as easily say it would be much worse. Which would be bullshit as well. Coulda, woulda, shoulda is for children.
Really. You mean that we will never know what if? Wow, you are brilliant.

Gore would not have had the tax cuts.

Gore would have paid more attention to Hart Rudman. Who knows, could have stopped 9-11 as Hart Rudman pointed out our airport security weakness.

Gore never would have lied to go to war in Iraq.

That saved 4000 soldiers & trillions of dollars.

You Bush voters just can't handle the guilt that sits u[on your shoulders.

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#814277 Nov 30, 2012
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that he just agreed with the Obama plan. A combination of spending cuts & revenue increases.
What spending cuts? List them.
carol

Orlando, FL

#814278 Nov 30, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, you're not going to justify 6 trillion(and still counting) in spending.
It was 6 trillion (and still counting) LESS in 2008.

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#814279 Nov 30, 2012
krissy wrote:
<quoted text>
So did your wife get any other votes?
That was about the funniest thing I read here in a lot time.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#814280 Nov 30, 2012
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>Your last sentence perfectly illustrates the mindset of the RealDave types and the wrong direction society is headed.
Victor Davis Hanse describes the liberal mindset perfectly:
'Equality of result -
Keen minds from Aristotle to Montesquieu and Tocqueville have lamented that the proverbial people sometimes prefer equality under authoritarianism to inequality accompanied by personal freedom.
As long as there was grinding poverty, the liberal agenda of “leveling the playing field” made sense enough — Social Security, disability insurance, the 40-hour work week, and Medicare.
But once modern mass production and consumption arose, energized by globalization and the entry of billions of new foreign workers into the equation, and high technology extended the appurtenances of the aristocracy to the poor (today’s ubiquitous smart phone is 100 times more versatile than yesterday’s $3,000 primitive suitcase cell phone), how could you keep promoting government-sponsored equality for the less well-off?
Ensure no one has to drive a Kia? Petition on behalf of those who do not yet have an iPad?
Weighing over 250 pounds, not rickets, is a national plague. Riots target sneaker stores, not food bins. Sandra Fluke naturally become the epitome of frustrated liberal-mandated equality. We are to believe that an upscale white law student, who by choice enrolls at a Catholic university, is deprived because her university will not pay for her condoms or abortion pills. Her cell phone no doubt costs more than a year’s supply of prophylactics. The result is psychodrama, not class struggle, as liberals strain to find ways in which America is Les Misérables rather than the Kardashians, plagued by this obsession to step in and make everyone (except themselves) the same.
Voters -
Romney almost forfeited the election when a video was leaked about his honest, though inexact, admission that 47% of Americans would, by needs, be unsympathetic to any agenda that cut spending and taxes, given their dependence on government “stuff.”
Borrowing money to pay for more entitlements for the liberal mind is good politics, killing two birds with the proverbial one stone. The less well-off are indebted to those who gave them subsidized food, health care, shelter, even cell phones and will vote accordingly to ensure the liberal political class remains in power.
And as deficits grow, the calls for higher taxes on those who “didn’t build that business” and are “fat cats” and never knew when they should stop profiting only increase. Liberalism is about power and influence, impossible without millions of dependent constituents.'
http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/why-libe...
and the band plays on...

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#814281 Nov 30, 2012
flack wrote:
<quoted text> You are the one playing the semantics game not me. Was my bank account larger? Yes Why was it larger? Because the government wasn't taking as much of MY MONEY.
So the government did it. Just like I aid.

Government actions gave you extra money.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#814282 Nov 30, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah but we all know how 8 years of Bush turned out. You said yourself you voted for Clinton twice, what makes you think Gore wouldn't have continued down the same path as Clinton? Just think Flack debt free by 2013.
Gore is an idiot. Clinton is not. That's enough for me.

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#814283 Nov 30, 2012
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
So, if you have $280K after taxes instead of $250K after taxes, did or dot not the change in tax code give you an extra $30K
You right whiners are dumber than sh*t.
The tax code did not give you an extra 30k stupid. That 30k was yours first. The government was taking it from you.

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