Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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#812349 Nov 27, 2012
O bummer...

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#812350 Nov 27, 2012
This is what America wanted? ObamaCare Work Disincentives: 4 Cliffs Hit Employees

In the time of Caesar, all roads led to Rome. In the time of ObamaCare, seemingly every path heads straight for a cliff.

The health law is filled with cliffs where the returns for more work take a nose-dive.

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated ObamaCare will "reduce the amount of labor used in the economy by roughly 1/2 a percent" — about 800,000 full-time jobs. It seems likely that 4 especially steep cliffs — including 2 where marginal tax rates can approach 100% or more — will factor into work & hiring decisions.

THE 50TH EMPLOYEE CLIFF: For companies with 49 workers that do not offer its employees health coverage, the hiring of just one more worker would carry a penalty of $40,000.

A firm with at least 50 workers that doesn't offer coverage must pay a $2,000 fine per worker (minus the first 30 workers) if even one of its employees receives ObamaCare subsidies.

Likewise, even if a business with 50 employees offers coverage, it would still face up to a $3,000 charge for each worker who nevertheless claims Obama-Care subsidies.

The law gives workers this option when employer coverage is deemed unaffordable because it costs more than 9.5% of the worker's household income.

France has 2.4 times as many firms with 49 employees as with 50 due to labor regulations that take effect with the 50th hire, BusinessWeek has noted.

How many firms will institute a hiring freeze to avoid ObamaCare penalties is unclear, but the risk is that the US will go down a similar path as France.

THE LOW INCOME CLIFF: At 200% of the poverty level is a dividing line. Deductibles for married couples on one side may be $300 vs.$3,500 on the other, according to one estimate provided to the Kaiser Family Foundation by Towers Watson.

In addition, a family at 200% of poverty would pay $830 less for subsidized insurance than a family at 225% of poverty, The Kaiser Family Foundation's health subsidy calculator shows.

Then factor in higher regular income & payroll tax payments as well as the loss of the earned income tax credit due to higher pay.
Bottom line: It's not hard to see how the next $5,000 or so in income for a family at 200% of the poverty level could be completely offset by higher taxes and smaller government subsidies.

THE MODERATE INCOME CLIFF: The cliff is even steeper for families at 400% of poverty. Just past that point, families would lose eligibility for ObamaCare subsidies, which can get quite valuable for older workers.

Kaiser's calculator shows that an eligible 60-year-old individual in a midcost coverage region would get a $5,800 subsidy in 2014, equal to 13% of the worker's $46,000 in wages. EARNING JUST A FEW HUNDRED OR EVEN A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE WOULD AMOUNT TO A BIG PAY CUT.

OLDER WORKERS’ CLIFF: Lastly, consider a 62-year-old worker with $38,500 in income,$4,000 from investments. Such a worker could qualify for a $6,500 ObamaCare subsidy, paying $3,700 toward premiums with perhaps a $2,000 deductible.

But if she retires and claims Social Security, with roughly $14,000 a year in benefits, her ObamaCare premium subsidy would rise to $9,400 with almost no deductible.

Factoring in a state & federal tax bill of $6,500, that worker would have an after-tax, after health cost (premium & deductible) income of $26,000, vs.$17,100 in the old early-retirement scenario. In other words, the pre-tax gap between working and retiring early would shrink from $20,500 to just $8,900.

That's not to say she would be better off exiting the workforce early. She would be better off working to ensure a secure retirement. But in recent years, about half of nondisabled workers have claimed Social Security at 62. ObamaCare's extra dollop of subsidies will continue to tilt incentives away from work.

http://news.investors.com/101912-630136-obama...

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#812352 Nov 27, 2012
COLONEL ANGUS wrote:
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You'll have to ask Gypsy Rose; didn't she start it? Never mind, she dead long time now ...
(Notice that Nano thinks I want her to put her pic up so I can wank to it? You should get a load of this psycho-looking minge!
You gonna show us yer mucous covered collage now?

pbffft...

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#812353 Nov 27, 2012
dem wrote:
I for one am embarrassed that I have to sink to your gutter level humor.
YEAH, DEBIL KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. MAKE HIM FEEL.. DIRTY.

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#812356 Nov 27, 2012
carol wrote:
This is also something I don't understand. Why do Lily and Homer keep lashing out a Wal-Mart for cutting new employees' health benefits?
Didn't they know this was going to happen? Isn't this what they wanted to happen?
Obamacare is going to pay for nearly all employee health benefits before long.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
I mean, we tried to tell them a hundred times this was going to happen.
Self centered Carol
Self important Carol
Part of the 47 per cent just too dumb to know
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812357 Nov 27, 2012
new yawk wrote:
Reality is so much better than fake fantasy, don't you think?
<quoted text>
WAIT... UM... ISN'T...'FAKE-FANTASY' JUS' ANOTHER WAY OF SAYIN' REALITY?

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#812358 Nov 27, 2012
new yawk wrote:
<quoted text>Did you say "that". Well ... Read it In The Windows.

No need to get your bloomers in a bunch.

The Name IS NOT Italian. As my search concluded.

Sicko? LOL! Right. Keep lying.

My Family's in The Information Business.

We can always read A Lie.

The Ethnic Origin of The Name Alloramadai:
Asian, Black/African American, East Indian, Latino/Hispanic, Middle Eastern, Native American ... Italian is not listed.
The Name Alloramadai is not of Italian Ethnic Origin ...

Nothing. There is nothing else I NEED to know about you.

Take Care, red?

<quoted text>Didn't they teach you chemistry in medical school or did you study in Pakistan, as your name and grammar skills imply?

Alloramadai wrote, "<quoted text>
Italian? Did I say that? Univ of Missouri? Never been there. What else would you like to know, sicko?"
No mas. I am politely telling you to stop. You have overstepped all rational limits of sanity.
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812361 Nov 27, 2012
Mike R wrote:
This is what America wanted? ObamaCare Work Disincentives: 4 Cliffs Hit Employees
In the time of Caesar, all roadsheads straight for a cliff.
The health law is filled with cliffs where the returns for more work take a nose-dive.
The Congressional Budget Officeime jobs. It seems likely that 4 especially steep cliffs — including 2 where marginal tax rates can approach 100% or more — will factor into work & hiring decisions.
THE 50TH EMPLOYEE CLIFF: For cage, the hiring of just one more worker would carry a penalty of $40,000.
A firm with at least 50 workers that doesn't offer coverage must pay a $2,000 fine per worker ObamaCare subsidies.
Likewise, even if a business with 50 employees offers coverage, it would still face up to a $3ption when employer coverage is deemed unaffordable because it costs more than 9.5% of the worker's household income.
France has 2.4 times as many firms with 49 employees as with 50 due to labor regulations that take effect with the 50th hire, BusinessWeek has noted.
How many firms will institute a hiring freeze to avoid ObamaCare penalties is unclear, but the risk is that the US will go down a similar path as France.
THE LOW INCOME CLIFF: At 200% of the poverty level is a dividing line. Deductibles for married couples on one side may be $300 vs.$3,500 on the other, according to one estimate provided to the Kaiser Family Foundation by Towers Watson.
In addition, a family at 200% of poverty would pay $830 less for subsidized insurance than a family at 225% of poverty, The Kaiser Family Foundation's health subsidy calculator shows.
Then factor in higher regular income & payroll tax payments as well as the loss of the earned income tax credit due to higher pay.
Bottom line: It's not hard to see how the next $5,000 or so in income for a family at 200% of the poverty level could be completely offset by higher taxes and smaller government subsidies.
THE MODERATE INCOME CLIFF: st that point, families would lose eligibility for ObamaCare subsidies, which can get quite valuable for older workers.
Kaiser's calculator shows that an eligible 60-year-old individual in a midcost coverage region would get a $5,800 subsidy in 2014, equal to 13% of the worker's $46,000 in wages. EARNING JUST A FEW HUNDRED OR EVEN A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE WOULD AMOUNT TO A BIG PAY CUT.
OLDER WORKERS’ CLIFF: Lastly, coider a 62-year-oldrker with $38,500 in income,$4,000 ms Social Security, with roughly $14,000 a year in benefits, her ObamaCare premium subsidy would rise to $9,400 with almost no deductible.
Factoring in a state & federal tax bill of $6,500, that worker would have an after-tax, after hn the old early-retirement scenario. In other shrink from $20,500 to just $8,900.
That's not to say she would be better off exiting the workforce early. She would be better off workinnsure a secure retirement. But in recent years, about half of nondisabled workers have claimed Social Security at 62. ObamaCare's extra dollop of subsidies will continue to tilt incntives away from work.
http://news.investors.com/101912-630136-obama...
UH-HUH. "TOWERS WATSON" HUH? YEAH, ME AN' TOWERS WE GO WAY BACK. REINCE PRIEBUS? NEWT GINGRICH? WILLARD ROMNEY? WHY YOU FOLKS NOT JUS' PAINT A TARGET ON YOU BACK?

“Is that all you've got?”

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#812362 Nov 27, 2012
brown eyes wrote:
<quoted text>If your neighbor watches Fox News, watch your neighbor.
You sound like you're a card carrying member of Obama's version of Orwell and Hitler's Youth who were brainwashed into narcing on their own families. I feel for your family.

https://mnn.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/attachme...

Let us know when Obama's drones are hovering over YOUR backyard. Supporting that creep will come back to bite you in the azz, eventually.
Mike R

New York, NY

#812364 Nov 27, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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Actually, I believe that we should have a balanced budget & factor in a surplus for a rainy day fund. You remember, that path we were on before Bush took office.
Solyndra, favored project by the Bush administration. Does that mean Bush & Obama shared the same cronies? Or does that mean you don't understand anything about Solyndra.
.
The Left has insisted that Bush pushed subsidies for Solyndra too and is therefore at least as responsible for the collapse as Obama. Solyndra execs didn’t see it that way in January 2009 and ramped up political pressure to fast-walk approval for the loan guarantees:

Solyndra officials were intensely pressuring Bush administration officials in early January 2009 to approve a government loan for the solar company before the Obama administration took power.

On Jan. 12, 2009, Solyndra CEO Chris Gronet sent an Energy Department official an email marked “urgent” expressing outrage that Bush officials had decided a few days earlier that while the loan application had “merit” it needed further study before officials could move forward with a taxpayer-financed loan.

The Obama administration went ahead with the loan that the Bush administration was reluctant to approve, let alone fast track.

The rest is history.
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812366 Nov 27, 2012
Alloramadai wrote:
<quoted text>
No mas. I am politely telling you to stop. You have overstepped all rational limits of sanity.
WHEN SHE SAYS HER FAMILY'S IN THE INFORMATION BUSINESS SHE MEANS HER DAUGHTER READS PALMS AN' PREDICTS THE FUTURE.
Mike R

New York, NY

#812368 Nov 27, 2012
THE DEBIL wrote:
<quoted text>
UH-HUH. "TOWERS WATSON" HUH? YEAH, ME AN' TOWERS WE GO WAY BACK. REINCE PRIEBUS? NEWT GINGRICH? WILLARD ROMNEY? WHY YOU FOLKS NOT JUS' PAINT A TARGET ON YOU BACK?
So to summarize, you can't sanely dispute any of that post.
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812369 Nov 27, 2012
Nightchalker wrote:
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Good one.
You single?
YOU'RE KIDDING, OF COURSE?
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#812370 Nov 27, 2012
Mike R wrote:
This is what America wanted? ObamaCare Work Disincentives: 4 Cliffs Hit Employees
In the time of Caesar, all roads led to Rome. In the time of ObamaCare, seemingly every path heads straight for a cliff.
The health law is filled with cliffs where the returns for more work take a nose-dive.
The Congressional Budget Office has estimated ObamaCare will "reduce the amount of labor used in the economy by roughly 1/2 a percent" — about 800,000 full-time jobs. It seems likely that 4 especially steep cliffs — including 2 where marginal tax rates can approach 100% or more — will factor into work & hiring decisions.
THE 50TH EMPLOYEE CLIFF: For companies with 49 workers that do not offer its employees health coverage, the hiring of just one more worker would carry a penalty of $40,000.
A firm with at least 50 workers that doesn't offer coverage must pay a $2,000 fine per worker (minus the first 30 workers) if even one of its employees receives ObamaCare subsidies.
Likewise, even if a business with 50 employees offers coverage, it would still face up to a $3,000 charge for each worker who nevertheless claims Obama-Care subsidies.
The law gives workers this option when employer coverage is deemed unaffordable because it costs more than 9.5% of the worker's household income.
France has 2.4 times as many firms with 49 employees as with 50 due to labor regulations that take effect with the 50th hire, BusinessWeek has noted.
How many firms will institute a hiring freeze to avoid ObamaCare penalties is unclear, but the risk is that the US will go down a similar path as France.
THE LOW INCOME CLIFF: At 200% of the poverty level is a dividing line. Deductibles for married couples on one side may be $300 vs.$3,500 on the other, according to one estimate provided to the Kaiser Family Foundation by Towers Watson.
In addition, a family at 200% of poverty would pay $830 less for subsidized insurance than a family at 225% of poverty, The Kaiser Family Foundation's health subsidy calculator shows.
Then factor in higher regular income & payroll tax payments as well as the loss of the earned income tax credit due to higher pay.
Bottom line: It's not hard to see how the next $5,000 or so in income for a family at 200% of the poverty level could be completely offset by higher taxes and smaller government subsidies.
THE MODERATE INCOME CLIFF: The cliff is even steeper for families at 400% of poverty. Just past that point, families would lose eligibility for ObamaCare subsidies, which can get quite valuable for older workers.
Kaiser's calculator shows that an eligible 60-year-old individual in a midcost coverage region would get a $5,800 subsidy in 2014, equal to 13% of the worker's $46,000 in wages. EARNING JUST A FEW HUNDRED OR EVEN A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE WOULD AMOUNT TO A BIG PAY CUT.
OLDER WORKERS’ CLIFF: Lastly, consider a 62-year-old worker with $38,500 in income,$4,000 from investments. Such a worker could qualify for a $6,500 ObamaCare subsidy, paying $3,700 toward premiums with perhaps a $2,000 deductible.
But if she retires and claims Social Security, with roughly $14,000 a year in benefits, her ObamaCare premium subsidy would rise to $9,400 with almost no deductible.
Factoring in a state & federal tax bill of $6,500, that worker would have an after-tax, after health cost (premium & deductible) income of $26,000, vs.$17,100 in the old early-retirement scenario. In other words, the pre-tax gap between working and retiring early would shrink from $20,500 to just $8,900.
That's not to say she would be better off exiting the workforce early. She would be better off working to ensure a secure retirement. But in recent years, about half of nondisabled workers have claimed Social Security at 62. ObamaCare's extra dollop of subsidies will continue to tilt incentives away from work.
http://news.investors.com/101912-630136-obama...
Total bullsht.
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812373 Nov 27, 2012
dem wrote:
Seems like just last week succession was all the rage?
What happened?
THEY FAILED AT IT.
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812374 Nov 27, 2012
Mike R wrote:
<quoted text>So to summarize, you can't sanely dispute any of that post.
WHAT POST? I NEVER MADE IT PAST "TOWERS WATSON." THAT POOR BASTARD MUST'VE BEEN THE SADDEST SACK AT CRANWALL. HERE, LET DEBIL SEE IF HE CAN GIVE YOU AN EQUIVALENT EXAMPLE....
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#812375 Nov 27, 2012
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
My God, you have to steal the words of others.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/carolplattliebau...
Yet another right whiner you regurgitates the garbage written by other right whiners.
What's next Limbaugh? Beck?
Don't worry, once we've busted him enough times, he'll have a total meltdown of incoherent rage filled with racism and swears. Keep up the pressure.
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812379 Nov 27, 2012
SALLY FIELDING, THE YOUNG AND ATTRACTIVE HEAD-MISTRESS AT MISS HALL'S SCHOOL FOR YOUNG LADIES, PRESSED HER BACK INTO THE SHELVES OF ANCIENT LEATHER-BOUND ENCYCLOPEDIAS AND GAVE HERSELF OVER TO THE HANDSOME YOUNG GARDENER, PENIS P. MCGEE, WHO WAS AT THIS VERY MOMENT UNBUTTONING HER BLOUSE TO GIVE HER HOT SWEATY BREASTS THE RELIEF THEY CRAVED...
THE DEBIL

Poland

#812380 Nov 27, 2012
DOES THAT HELP?
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#812382 Nov 27, 2012
new yawk wrote:
You volunteered it when you put in the public domain.
You know the www ... You're not very bright if you want to keep private what you then made public.
Just didn't think anybody would check out your "facts".
That's what's got you torqued, fat girl.
With no red hair.
Don't hope. It won't happen.
<quoted text>
oh barf

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